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  1. #293
    Quote Originally Posted by Amazake  [View Original Post]
    I am older and have been around Asian girls for most of my life.

    Way back like in the 80's my Chinese girlfriend was surprised that western men were satisfied with settling for a sensual massage and happy ending. She told me that in Asia, she had to be a very skilled massage therapist, and give an excellent tuina or shiatsu style massage to satisfy opening the energy channels of the man's body. Once that was accomplished, they would offer sex, real sex, intercourse.

    She was shocked that western men were willing to walk away with only a simple sensual massage, not addressing the proper pressure points, followed by a happy ending, something so less fulfilling.

    Many years have passed and sensual massage and happy endings have permeated the sexual culture, but it was not that way until rather recently. But, even the other day, with a Taiwan pro, and I was way backed up. Her BJ and full sex failed to get me off, and time was running out. I asked her to pull off the condom and hand pump the Johnson. She was shocked and did it, but told me it was her first time hand pumpingand she was not young and she was doing this for a while.

    So, maybe that is the reason that nuru is behind. Quite possibly their Asian customers require an excellent solid legitimate massage, followed by sex. To myself, I would prefer that package deal.

    Had an Asian girlfriend who owned a massage spa way back, and it was a true shiatsu / tuina spa. And she knew some of the girls were fucking the clients after the massage. But, if her girl was lazy and would only perform a sensual massage and did not give the client a true massage, she would fire the girl. Because the client could always find someone to fuck. But, clients wanted a true massage as the main meal, with a full service romp for dessert, or else they would go to another massage parlor.

    I know times have changed, but to some degree the old tradition might linger in Taiwan. Even bar girls here give me an excellent massage to make my body and mind relax before anything else. They seldom go straight to sensuality. It starts strong and therapeutic and ends in sensuality.

    These days many girls are unskilled in both massage and sex. They get a job only because they are young and pretty.
    I get what you wrote. Somehow I just don't like FS with these massage girls anymore. I agree, you need some level of massage, not just a feather touch. But I'm fine with a basic massage + HJ or proper sensual nuru, where they really know how to slide on your body. By the way, a proper Nuru doesn't start off directly with jerking you off. It will involve some level of a regular massage for 15-20 minutes.

    The reason I don't like FS with these girls is that I absolutely hate BJ or sex with a condom. Much better to find non-pro girls and do it in the natural way, after getting tested.

    If I really want 1 100% proper relaxing massage, I'd go to a non-sexual massage parlor with proper trained therapists.

    Wish there was 1 place in Taiwan with girls trained properly in the art of nuru.

  2. #292

    I could be wrong but.

    Quote Originally Posted by Analyzer123  [View Original Post]
    Seriously, the quality of sensual erotic massage in Taiwan sucks. Absolutely sucks.

    I've had proper Nuru massage in the US, Netherlands, India and Thailand. The girls from Taiwan don't even come close to it. Simply taking off clothes and awkwardly touching your body to theirs is NOT Nuru. Why are people even trying to waste time and pay top dollar for these nonsense Vietnamese or mainland girls?

    Living here we have to take what we get. But it's just so sad. I've been to most of the places mentioned in this forum as well as ones that I found myself. I don't enjoy anything more than a basic massage an a HJ, if the girl is enthusiastic about it. I'll save my money and time for the talent in other countries, now that things have finally opened up.

    End rant.
    I am older and have been around Asian girls for most of my life.

    Way back like in the 80's my Chinese girlfriend was surprised that western men were satisfied with settling for a sensual massage and happy ending. She told me that in Asia, she had to be a very skilled massage therapist, and give an excellent tuina or shiatsu style massage to satisfy opening the energy channels of the man's body. Once that was accomplished, they would offer sex, real sex, intercourse.

    She was shocked that western men were willing to walk away with only a simple sensual massage, not addressing the proper pressure points, followed by a happy ending, something so less fulfilling.

    Many years have passed and sensual massage and happy endings have permeated the sexual culture, but it was not that way until rather recently. But, even the other day, with a Taiwan pro, and I was way backed up. Her BJ and full sex failed to get me off, and time was running out. I asked her to pull off the condom and hand pump the Johnson. She was shocked and did it, but told me it was her first time hand pumping—and she was not young and she was doing this for a while.

    So, maybe that is the reason that nuru is behind. Quite possibly their Asian customers require an excellent solid legitimate massage, followed by sex. To myself, I would prefer that package deal.

    Had an Asian girlfriend who owned a massage spa way back, and it was a true shiatsu / tuina spa. And she knew some of the girls were fucking the clients after the massage. But, if her girl was lazy and would only perform a sensual massage and did not give the client a true massage, she would fire the girl. Because the client could always find someone to fuck. But, clients wanted a true massage as the main meal, with a full service romp for dessert, or else they would go to another massage parlor.

    I know times have changed, but to some degree the old tradition might linger in Taiwan. Even bar girls here give me an excellent massage to make my body and mind relax before anything else. They seldom go straight to sensuality. It starts strong and therapeutic and ends in sensuality.

    These days many girls are unskilled in both massage and sex. They get a job only because they are young and pretty.

  3. #291

    Why no proper Nuru training?

    Seriously, the quality of sensual erotic massage in Taiwan sucks. Absolutely sucks.

    I've had proper Nuru massage in the US, Netherlands, India and Thailand. The girls from Taiwan don't even come close to it. Simply taking off clothes and awkwardly touching your body to theirs is NOT Nuru. Why are people even trying to waste time and pay top dollar for these nonsense Vietnamese or mainland girls?

    Living here we have to take what we get. But it's just so sad. I've been to most of the places mentioned in this forum as well as ones that I found myself. I don't enjoy anything more than a basic massage an a HJ, if the girl is enthusiastic about it. I'll save my money and time for the talent in other countries, now that things have finally opened up.

    End rant.

  4. #290
    Quote Originally Posted by KHdizz  [View Original Post]
    No. 186, Jhonghua 3rd Rd.

    Number 555 was absolutely epic, best body I've seen.
    Hi man,

    I went to the place in no. 58 Minsheng Road but they didn't let me in, maybe they don't accept foreigners. I tried to PM you but your settings don't allow for that. If you have time, can we exchange PM, I just moved to Kaohsiung and would like to understand the market. I lived in Dubai and Vietnam before, here everything seems much more under the radar so would like to understand the market. I hope you don't mind. Cheers.

  5. #289

    Viet massage places

    Quote Originally Posted by KhhResident  [View Original Post]
    Kaohsiung is slowly reopening. The massage joints run by the Vietnamese girls all along Jiuru road are now all open. A few places down by the Formosa Boulevard Station are also opening up again. The industry in general though has taken a hit, I walked past a few places during the lockdown and they all had police notices stating that they're closed. A few places didn't make it through, especially on the Qixian road and Jiuru roads. Most of the girls have realized they can make more money freelancing. There are several Facebook groups that I belong to and business is booming. They book a long stay at a cheap hotel around the train station area and ply their trade from there. Also down by 85 are a few cheap hotels that the girls work out of. I haven't been back to the place at 58 Minsheng road since lockdown but this evening I'll pay a visit to the place on the 11th floor above the union bank on Jiuru road. Of course, all of this information is rendered useless or irrelevant until Taiwan allows international travelers to enter the country again. As less than 40% of the population have received their first jab it won't be happening anytime soon. The younger members of the population haven't even been notified they can even register yet..
    Hi man,

    I tried to PM you but your settings don't allow that, sorry if I bother you, I just moved to Kaohsiung and was going through the forum, I found your post and seems you have knowledge.

    I used to live in Dubai and Vietnam were everything is very open and easy to find, here it seems a bit more "under the radar", so would like to understand how the market works, especially Viet girls.

    Hope it doesn't bother you.

    Cheers.

  6. #288

    spa

    No. 186, Jhonghua 3rd Rd.

    Number 555 was absolutely epic, best body I've seen.

  7. #287

    Spas closed?

    As of this weekend, all the "massage" spa places on Jiuru 2nd Rd. Are closed— The big famous ones, the little crappy Vietnamese ones, all of 'them. They were just open a couple days ago. What happened? Is this a Covid-related thing?

  8. #286
    Quote Originally Posted by KhhResident  [View Original Post]
    I'm surprised to read that this place has started to refuse foreigners. I've been there a handful of times and each time the guys on reception have welcomed me back with a smile.
    The locals thought that the foreigner has a higher chance of passing the virus compared to the locals, thanks to the media.

    I can speak Taiwanese well, so they didn't refuse me.

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  9. #285

    58 Minsheng Road

    I'm surprised to read that this place has started to refuse foreigners. I've been there a handful of times and each time the guys on reception have welcomed me back with a smile.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinkoh  [View Original Post]
    I am currently based in Kaohsiung. I can lead you if you pay a little for me LOL.

  10. #284

    Kaohsiung update

    Kaohsiung is slowly reopening. The massage joints run by the Vietnamese girls all along Jiuru road are now all open. A few places down by the Formosa Boulevard Station are also opening up again. The industry in general though has taken a hit, I walked past a few places during the lockdown and they all had police notices stating that they're closed. A few places didn't make it through, especially on the Qixian road and Jiuru roads. Most of the girls have realized they can make more money freelancing. There are several Facebook groups that I belong to and business is booming. They book a long stay at a cheap hotel around the train station area and ply their trade from there. Also down by 85 are a few cheap hotels that the girls work out of. I haven't been back to the place at 58 Minsheng road since lockdown but this evening I'll pay a visit to the place on the 11th floor above the union bank on Jiuru road. Of course, all of this information is rendered useless or irrelevant until Taiwan allows international travelers to enter the country again. As less than 40% of the population have received their first jab it won't be happening anytime soon. The younger members of the population haven't even been notified they can even register yet.

    By the time most of you are allowed back, you won't recognize the train station area. The ugly flyover has been removed and all the traffic is at street level. They're trying to beautify the area.

    Quote Originally Posted by AsnDragon  [View Original Post]
    KHDizz,

    Wow! I use to walk past this building all the time. I never knew that they offered all that service for only 2500 NT.

    I tend to not want to try new spots because I'm afraid that I would get ripped off. What nationality are these girls? Are they local? Vietnamese or Pinay? Wow I need to do some recon work. But a lot of the spots are owned by people of the triad background so you never know if you're going to get in trouble or not.

    I do see a lot of Filpina and Thai and Indonesian / Malaysian looking girls at the train station at Jian Guo Road. They have their own little community over there. I'm sure there's some action to be had with some of the SE asian girls over there.

    I'm going to have to try out your recommendation!

    Thanks.

    AsnDragon.

  11. #283

    Blue Glass Building

    KHDizz,

    Wow! I use to walk past this building all the time. I never knew that they offered all that service for only 2500 NT.

    I tend to not want to try new spots because I'm afraid that I would get ripped off. What nationality are these girls? Are they local? Vietnamese or Pinay? Wow I need to do some recon work. But a lot of the spots are owned by people of the triad background so you never know if you're going to get in trouble or not.

    I do see a lot of Filpina and Thai and Indonesian / Malaysian looking girls at the train station at Jian Guo Road. They have their own little community over there. I'm sure there's some action to be had with some of the SE asian girls over there.

    I'm going to have to try out your recommendation!

    Thanks.

    AsnDragon.

    Quote Originally Posted by KHdizz  [View Original Post]
    Went to an awesome place on No. 58, Minsheng 1st Road. Very small girl with incredible body (best ass I've ever seen), around 21 yo. Massage and BJ around 1500, FS was only an extra 1000.

    Number 15 is highly recommended. Speaks English well and fucked so well.

  12. #282

    Kaohsiung Action

    Gosh your report brings back memories. I haven't been able to go to taiwan since covid hit. But last year before covid hit I was in Kaoshiung and Had a great time.

    HeBei Road does have a business (rundown old) hotel where they have rooms where you wait and they call girls to your room to choose and pick from. Usually they only have about 2-3 girls for you to choose from. Many are vietnamese and malaysians and some mainland and local girls.

    HJ places are all over Jiu Ru Road 2-3. They are all staffed by vietnamese women who are usually divorced single moms. They married over to taiwan about 20 years ago when they were young, promised a better life. Once they came to Taiwan their husbands were usually abusive or losers and so they divorced. And they all come to these massage parlors to work in order support their children and themselves. Most of these women will range from 30's-40's. You won't find any young girls and they youngest ones I have found are about 29 years or so.

    QiXian first road has some buildings that have tons of Saunas inside. The girls range from 3000-4000 a pop. You get about 30 minutes and they are strict on time. 100% of them are all vietnamese girls and you might find 1 or 2 mainland girls but super rare these days. Why would a mainland girl come to taiwan to work when they could earn double to triple in China now.

    I like Kaohsiung more than Taipei. In kaohsiung it seems that cops look the other way. Prices are affordable because it's not taipei. In taipei everything is 30-50% more expensive if you go to Lin Seng road area. Kaoshiung is chill and although it seems kind of dead it's sort of relaxing. It's not this whole pattaya feel of tourists all over the place. It's just like a regular town with lots of different venues to choose from. KTVs are a bust. But Kaohsiung is full of nice vietnamese girls. I hardly ever see any locals working in this trade. I'm sure they do but mostly in KTV spots.

    Shout out to BruceTea if you are around, haven't heard from you in a long while man. But Bruce tea was and still is I'm sure the heart of the party! Hope to see him again soon.

    AsnDragon.

    Quote Originally Posted by BJtemp  [View Original Post]
    I went to Kaohsiung 5 times in 2019, for personal business. Had a few chance to play there.

    In one trip, local friends took me to high end Karaoke at Si Wei Road. Girls are local Taiwanese; they all dressed up very nicely; good body, high heels. Beer and whiskey were served. Drinking / singing in private room. Each person ended up paying TWD 10 K. If I were to take a girl out, it would probably be another TWD 10 K. I found that Karaoke places in Taiwan has a lot of little fees; it's really annoying. It probably only add up to the same high flat fee in HK or Macau, but the nickel-and-diming just has a rip-off feel which I hate.

    In another trip, I went to the Mei (beauty) Spa on Qi Xian 2nd Road, on north side of the road between Nantai Road and Zili Road. Massage+BJ for 1600. No FS; this part is disappointing. Could only grab the woman.

    In another trip, local friend took me to a little ally just south of the KH main railroad station. This is in a residential building, very secluded. I remember you need a code or call ahead of time to be able to get to the level of the business. The business occupy many apartments on that floor, maybe even the entire floor. We were taken to one room to select girls, then taken to another room. FS for TWD 1000. Room is extremely spacious, basically a big studio. Deco very homey; the girl is also the country-girl type in her late 20's early 30's. This is the cheapest I have experienced in KH.

    Saving the best for the last, one night around midnight I went to roam around Hebei 2nd Road (north side of the aqueduct). I saw a few street walkers in the shadows. The place is so dead compared to some places I've been to in China; it was surreal. I was prepared to skip, then I was approached by a man asking if I want girls, for TWD 3000. I knew I would probably get ripped off going this way, but lacking any other option I said OK. He asked me to hop on his scooter, and I was taken to a place which I found later to be the the Qian Business Hotel (Da Qian Shang Wu Lv Guan).

    We went up the back elevator, coming out directly into the girls' resting room, a surprising presentation. If you come thru the front door you'd be taken to a room, then the girl is taken to the room for you to see. There were 3 Vietnamese girls there; one of them was seriously stunningly beautiful. Such a shame that such a girl is not taken care of by a millionaire. I picked her, then the man that took me there came over to haggle price. He wanted TWD 4000 for this girl; I was so mesmerized by her, I quickly agreed. Later I found out they normally charge 3000. Oh well.

    I was then taken to another level via elevator to do the deed. Process was bland, nothing to write home about. But that did not matter. The girl is just SO PRETTY, easily one of the prettiest girls I have ever had. This experience became the highlight of all my trips to Taiwan.

    I don't think I have found the true gems in KH as well as rest of TW yet. I prefer those very organic options - little make up, no frill, no pretending, just the true flavor of the local women. Hope to exchange idea with other players.

  13. #281
    Quote Originally Posted by Merriguo  [View Original Post]
    Here is an update and better directions to get to this place. Take the red line to Kaohsiung Main Station. Walking out of the station, get on to Jiuru 2nd Rd. Make a left, and walk down several blocks and the place will be on the left side of the street close to the corner of Jiuru 2nd and Nenjiang. It is above Union bank. There is a sign up high that has sort of a brick red color, and if you turn your head sideways you will see, in tiny letters, "Harem Beauty" + some Chinese word I couldn't make out. Walk past the guard and get on the elevator to the 8th floor, I believe. $1600 for message and HJ / CBJ, or another $1000 for FS. They brought me a thick Taiwanese with a round ass and huge tits. 101 is her number. This is one of the best places around, it is 24 hours, they have a lot of women, any kind you like, reasonably priced, clean discreet facilities.

    Walking to and from there you can't help but to notice nearly every block seems to have a spa or some place to get service, some blocks several places, not to mention Romantic City is in the same section. Large parts of Kaohsiung seem to be like this. I wonder how they all stay in business, they certainly can't just cater to foreigners.
    Just been there it is a nice place open to foreigners. It is not located on the eight floor but on 11! The price is indeed 1800.

  14. #280

    Show me around

    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinkoh  [View Original Post]
    I am currently based in Kaohsiung. I can lead you if you pay a little for me LOL.
    Hi Kevin,

    I would like if you show me around the city for some money!

  15. #279
    Quote Originally Posted by Kevinkoh  [View Original Post]
    I am currently based in Kaohsiung. I can lead you if you pay a little for me LOL.
    Hi Kevin,

    I would like a guide to show me around the city. Off course I will pay a little for your guidance.

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