Bangkok Reports

[Tim Timms]

2 excellent reports and I've taken the liberty to add them to the ROD's. No doubt a forlorn hope that people might read there first, but hope does spring eternal.

Hey, his FIRST trip to Thailand, and watching too many Ytube videos, reading here, and visiting only the adult entertainment scene, easy to think that any Thai female can't wait to jump into your arms, totally overcome by your farangness. Actually, Thai culture is VERY conservative and proper, AND they are NOT stupid. That wai that you see, that takes YEARS of knowing how to do (my advice, don't as you won't know how. Who goes first, how high, how long, etc.). You might not see any Thai Smiles on the street these days, especially Bangkok, as everyone is wearing masks, but learn some words of Thai, be nice and polite, smile, and it comes back to you in spades. But it doesn't happen overnight.

Well, Timmie, you got me stumped for sure as I have no idea what 5 squids, 2 squids, are. Myself, tonight I had 7 or 8 squids, but I call them calamari, along with about 15 shrimp, all fried in batter, all spicy with those little red chilis, home cooked meal via some civilian Thai friends. They know I can eat spicy, so it was. Even a salad and they didn't have any trouble opening the container, but we can use sharp objects. So your squid comments went zoom over my head, and if you care to elaborate, feel free (and searching didn't turn up any clarifications, I did try). If not, I'll live.

It doesn't, but today I had to walk at 15:00 to pick up some ice cream to take for desert, and with a breeze, I wasn't drenched. The shop puts a few pieces of dry ice in each foil bag, so it remains frozen until you get back to your frig. What IS really jarring is the Christmas carols everywhere in the heat.

Thais aren't Stupid. LOL.

On old Thai Visa site I get the impression Thais aren't as a group Smart.

Example always given. You need to go University to work 7-11.

[Xpartan]

A clothing tip for people who don't do well in the SE-Asian heat, give Merino Wool t-shirts a go.

Wool is a natural moisture wicking material, which means it absorbs your sweat and it dries very quickly once you reach a cold, dry environment like an air-conditioned place. The natural roughness of wool fibre also prevents bacteria, which is the cause of odours, from growing, keeping you smelling fresh after a day in the sun. They also have the added bonus of being wrikle-free, so the girls won't think you're a slob even if you can't be bothered to fold your clothes.

Never would've thought of merino wool to wear in hot summer. What about sweat stains? More or less pronounced than cotton?

[ChuchoLoco]

2 EXCELLENT reports and I've taken the liberty to add them to the ROD's. No doubt a forlorn hope that people might read there first, but hope does spring eternal.

Hey, his FIRST trip to Thailand, and watching too many Ytube videos, reading here, and visiting only the adult entertainment scene, easy to think that any Thai female can't wait to jump into your arms, totally overcome by your farangness. Actually, Thai culture is VERY conservative and proper, AND they are NOT stupid. That wai that you see, that takes YEARS of knowing how to do (my advice, don't as you won't know how. Who goes first, how high, how long, etc.). You might not see any Thai Smiles on the street these days, especially Bangkok, as everyone is wearing masks, but learn some words of Thai, be nice and polite, smile, and it comes back to you in spades. But it doesn't happen overnight.

Well, Timmie, you got me stumped for sure as I have no idea what 5 squids, 2 squids, are. Myself, tonight I had 7 or 8 squids, but I call them calamari, along with about 15 shrimp, all fried in batter, all spicy with those little red chilis, home cooked meal via some civilian Thai friends. They know I can eat spicy, so it was. Even a salad and they didn't have any trouble opening the container, but we can use sharp objects. So your squid comments went zoom over my head, and if you care to elaborate, feel free (and searching didn't turn up any clarifications, I did try). If not, I'll live.

It doesn't, but today I had to walk at 15:00 to pick up some ice cream to take for desert, and with a breeze, I wasn't drenched. The shop puts a few pieces of dry ice in each foil bag, so it remains frozen until you get back to your frig. What IS really jarring is the Christmas carols everywhere in the heat.

Yeah, heat and Christmas Carols don't seem to go together very well. But if that's what they grew up with, then snow and Christmas may seem strange to them. Buddhist monks and Christmas Carols, please tell me they don't sing them between meditations.

[Supmam]

Poor boy! Imagine brown or black women not finding a white man attractive. Impossible!!

It must be the natives that are wrong. They should be grateful for all the white male has done for them.

Well I am at least a little bit disappointed. Outside the sex industry Thai girls are not really interested to meet and date foreigners.

The women here are so beautiful but they are really not interested. I think these days dating a foreigner is equal with dating a pervert in their eyes.

All the guys for all these years have ruined the playground.
It's also such a fake society, their kindness, there politeness.. it's one big show.

[11Bravo]

TLDR: Lolita's and Kasalong both conveniently located near Nana BTS just adjacent to Soi 8; YMMV with both, but for my money Kasalong has the better lineup at present; Wood Bar on Soi 7/1 has a decent lineup and nice facilities but it's highly transactional approach, with a view towards operational efficiency, may be a turnoff for some; Duangporn's Haven has a laid-back vibe with friendly staff, no pressure, and nice amenities, but be mindful of their queue systemjust pick the one you want or take a pass.

2 EXCELLENT reports and I've taken the liberty to add them to the ROD's. No doubt a forlorn hope that people might read there first, but hope does spring eternal.

Well I am at least a little bit disappointed. Outside the sex industry Thai girls are not really interested to meet and date foreigners.
The women here are so beautiful but they are really not interested. I think these days dating a foreigner is equal with dating a pervert in their eyes.
All the guys for all these years have ruined the playground.
It's also such a fake society, their kindness, there politeness.. it's one big show.

Hey, his FIRST trip to Thailand, and watching too many Ytube videos, reading here, and visiting only the adult entertainment scene, easy to think that any Thai female can't wait to jump into your arms, totally overcome by your farangness. Actually, Thai culture is VERY conservative and proper, AND they are NOT stupid. That wai that you see, that takes YEARS of knowing how to do (my advice, don't as you won't know how. Who goes first, how high, how long, etc.). You might not see any Thai Smiles on the street these days, especially Bangkok, as everyone is wearing masks, but learn some words of Thai, be nice and polite, smile, and it comes back to you in spades. But it doesn't happen overnight.

This Star likes getting 5 Squids about once a month from me. I'm ok with it, liked it better when she was on stage pre COVID Topless. Haha,
Mook thinks WTF why am I giving her more? Am I all of a sudden Chopped Liver? Resulting cold shoulder treatment. Mook gets 2 squids per.

Well, Timmie, you got me stumped for sure as I have no idea what 5 squids, 2 squids, are. Myself, tonight I had 7 or 8 squids, but I call them calamari, along with about 15 shrimp, all fried in batter, all spicy with those little red chilis, home cooked meal via some civilian Thai friends. They know I can eat spicy, so it was. Even a salad and they didn't have any trouble opening the container, but we can use sharp objects. So your squid comments went zoom over my head, and if you care to elaborate, feel free (and searching didn't turn up any clarifications, I did try). If not, I'll live.

I have a feeling the night warmth adds to the ambiance of the scene.

It doesn't, but today I had to walk at 15:00 to pick up some ice cream to take for desert, and with a breeze, I wasn't drenched. The shop puts a few pieces of dry ice in each foil bag, so it remains frozen until you get back to your frig. What IS really jarring is the Christmas carols everywhere in the heat.

[ThaiGoodTimes]

Well I am at least a little bit disappointed. Outside the sex industry Thai girls are not really interested to meet and date foreigners.

The women here are so beautiful but they are really not interested. I think these days dating a foreigner is equal with dating a pervert in their eyes.

All the guys for all these years have ruined the playground.
It's also such a fake society, their kindness, there politeness.. it's one big show.

What an absolutely unbelievable outburst by you.

You are wrong, wrong, wrong.

So now, you triggered at least a response.

If that was your intention, so be it.

[ChuchoLoco]

Don't be worried, it seems to be getting better, and certainly nights are cooler.

The BTS and MRT are air conditioned and a great way to get around. I DEFINITELY recommend spending the 100 baht each for their travel cards, fill up, then top up as needed. I put 1000 baht on each. A month later, when I leave, my BTS will probably have 100 baht left, the MRT 700. No worries, I never try to get money back, just use the next trip. WORST case, the cards expire and you have to pay another 100 baht for a new one, BUT any unused balance from the old IS transferred to the new. DEFINITELY beats having to stand in line for the ticket machines or to get change at the office every time you travel. Just swipe in, travel, swipe out. Taxis are cheap, daytime, start at 35 baht (dead as dodos are the unmetered taxis, all metered for decades), and most have their air conditioning working. But taxis are subject to traffic congestion, while the BTS / MRT are not. I walk, but if tired take a taxi to the BTS station for onward travel..

I have to get there, been on my mind for way too long and your input helps a great deal. I have a feeling the night warmth adds to the ambiance of the scene. I'd walk a mile for a camel (toe).

[Tim Timms]

Will be doing Business in Soi 7. Hotel that is. Very economical rates.

Actually went to take a look at the girls outside Wood Bar. Not to partake as I don't go to those type of places. Just to see which posters are credible in girl assessment. Hahaha.

Goat seems to have Won the Prize. Not an attractive bunch at all. Has to be below 5 on the ratings scale by maybe 3.5.

[Golds]

Well I am at least a little bit disappointed. Outside the sex industry Thai girls are not really interested to meet and date foreigners.

The women here are so beautiful but they are really not interested. I think these days dating a foreigner is equal with dating a pervert in their eyes.

All the guys for all these years have ruined the playground.
It's also such a fake society, their kindness, there politeness.. it's one big show.

[Blue Nose]

Part 2 of my Bangkok BJ Bar tour report.

I focused for the past two weeks on spending some time in the BJ bars around Nana.

Although I've not been inside the bars there recently, I walk down Soi 8 at least weekly and the two BJ bars that are adjacent to Soi 8 do have half-decent lineups, with Kasalong appearing to have better talent overall. If you've not visited, walk down Soi 8 away from Sukhumvit and take your second right (at the 7-Eleven). Lolita's is on the left and after you've squeezed through the walkway to the adjacent soi after Lolita's you'll find Kasalong, also on your left. If you don't see anyone you like, it's a good idea to go grab a beer on Soi 4 (just keep walking straight after Kasalong and you'll bump into Soi 4) and return 30 40 minutes later for another look. Mid-late afternoon is a good time to go, if you're in the area. I saw a decent looking one about a week ago at Kasalong as I was passing by. Alas, on my way back she was nowhere to be found.

Soi 7/1 has been hopping and, in my view, is a real hidden gem in the lower Sukhumvit area. Easy to miss if you're not familiar with it since the soi curves away from Sukhumvit, making it difficult to see very far down. If you do venture down it you'll find multiple beer bars, several beer bar / massage shop hybrid businesses, and Wood Bar, which is deeper (heh) in the soi on the right. I'd always avaoided this place, pre-Covid, as I thought it was mainly a place for tourists, although I didn't find that to be true when I visited. The name Wood Bar is really something of a misnomer as this place is very much not about drinking / sitting around / chatting. It's all business, and despite the decent lineup (in my view, it's the best lineup of the Nana-area BJ bars) it's a bit too transactional for me.

After you walk in, they'll line up the girls for you and you pick. Then, you pay and head right upstairs. There's no foreplay, no drinking, no groping, no warm up downstairs. And don't even think about hanging out in the bar. That's what I didn't like about it. Mamasan agreed to sell me a beer only after I assured her I would take a girl and I ended up drinking the beer in the room. I prefer a more laid-back vibe, like Soi 6 in Pattaya, where you can sit and drink with the girl for a while. The "squeeze test" is what I call it and it's a fun way to relax, get to know your provider, and get warmed up. So, if you're at all like me then do your warm-up lap at one of the beer bars on Soi 7/1 , and then go take care of business at Wood Bar. (I will likely follow my own advice in that regard for my next visit).

Out of the way a bit is Duangporn's Haven. To get there, take the BTS to Asoke Station (or just walk from Nana) and then head for Exit #4. At the bottom of the stairs, don't cross the intersection. Instead, take an immediate right onto Thanon Ratchadapisek (that's the big road that intersects with Sukhumvit Road at the Asoke interchange). Walk straight on Thanon Ratchadapisek and take your second right (at the cannabis dispensary). Duangporn's Haven will be straight ahead on your right about 50 m down the soi. It's off the beaten track a bit and you would never know that it was there unless you were looking for it. Ladies will be congregated outside and Duangporn uses a queue system, similar to a massage shop, so the girl who gets up to lead you in is number 1 in the queue. Now, you can pick your girl, of course, you don't have to go with the queue girl, but remember to do this before you go inside. If you go inside with the queue girl, buy her a drink, chat with her etc. But then don't take her then she will lose her spot in the queue. If you take another girl upon entry then number 1 in the queue retains her position for the next guy. It's a strange system, for sure, at a bar like this. I've used a queue girl before, when I didn't have a strong preference, but I think I will just stop and pick the one (s) I want during future visits.

Inside, there's a bar, some couches, and even a pool table. If you want to play, the girls are very accommodating. I usually start at the bar, migrate to a couch, and then go upstairs but you can just grab your girl and go directly upstairs, if that's your thing. They have the usual BJ rooms with a sink or you can get the full-service room, which is old but surprisingly nice with a decent bathroom, shower, and bed. Overall, I like this place for its laid-back vibe and friendly staff but I would note that the lineup is likely stronger at the other Nana-area BJ bars.

TLDR: Lolita's and Kasalong both conveniently located near Nana BTS just adjacent to Soi 8; YMMV with both, but for my money Kasalong has the better lineup at present; Wood Bar on Soi 7/1 has a decent lineup and nice facilities but it's highly transactional approach, with a view towards operational efficiency, may be a turnoff for some; Duangporn's Haven has a laid-back vibe with friendly staff, no pressure, and nice amenities, but be mindful of their queue systemjust pick the one you want or take a pass.

Got to finish up a few end-of-year initiatives in the office over the next few weeks. Then, I'll be heading to Pattaya after Christmas and expect to have some good field reports. See you on The Six!

[TheNileRiva]

Forget about classic T-shirts or shirts, they're much too hot. The pic shows what you should wear in Thailand. The flimsiest of cotton. You can buy them on the islands and in Pattaya, not sure about Bangkok.

Also, short trousers, NO SOCKS, bare-foot in cheap plastic open shoes or sandals you can buy anywhere.

The BTS is unfortunately much too cold to be healthy after the outdoor heat. Why is it kept so chilly? My hunch is because they want the smells given off by people not to be noticeable, an instance of Thai saving face.

A clothing tip for people who don't do well in the SE-Asian heat, give Merino Wool t-shirts a go.

Wool is a natural moisture wicking material, which means it absorbs your sweat and it dries very quickly once you reach a cold, dry environment like an air-conditioned place. The natural roughness of wool fibre also prevents bacteria, which is the cause of odours, from growing, keeping you smelling fresh after a day in the sun. They also have the added bonus of being wrikle-free, so the girls won't think you're a slob even if you can't be bothered to fold your clothes.

[XXL]

It is KILLING me, and I'm Southwest. I understand heat, but the HUMIDITY. And NO breeze, just oppressive. Think inside one of the NARROW Chatachak aisles ... and that's NOT Chatachak but walking down any street. If I'm lucky enough to get a seat on the BTS or MRT, I CAN'T lean back. My shirt is drenched, and with the a/c inside, it's that damp clammy feel. Saturday, arrived SOAKED, rain, sweat, and that sweat where you wear a rain jacket but still get soaked from your own sweat due to the heat/humidity. Girl hung my shirt outside so it'd be dry when we finished.
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Forget about classic T-shirts or shirts, they're much too hot. The pic shows what you should wear in Thailand. The flimsiest of cotton. You can buy them on the islands and in Pattaya, not sure about Bangkok.

Also, short trousers, NO SOCKS, bare-foot in cheap plastic open shoes or sandals you can buy anywhere.

The BTS is unfortunately much too cold to be healthy after the outdoor heat. Why is it kept so chilly? My hunch is because they want the smells given off by people not to be noticeable, an instance of Thai saving face.

[11Bravo]

Perfect way to describe the heat. I'm kinda scared now and not scared of much. Anything over 75 is hot for me anymore. BUT it looks so awesome that I may have to tough it out. Thanks 11 Bravo. Stay cool!

Don't be worried, it seems to be getting better, and certainly nights are cooler.

The BTS and MRT are air conditioned and a great way to get around. I DEFINITELY recommend spending the 100 baht each for their travel cards, fill up, then top up as needed. I put 1000 baht on each. A month later, when I leave, my BTS will probably have 100 baht left, the MRT 700. No worries, I never try to get money back, just use the next trip. WORST case, the cards expire and you have to pay another 100 baht for a new one, BUT any unused balance from the old IS transferred to the new. DEFINITELY beats having to stand in line for the ticket machines or to get change at the office every time you travel. Just swipe in, travel, swipe out. Taxis are cheap, daytime, start at 35 baht (dead as dodos are the unmetered taxis, all metered for decades), and most have their air conditioning working. But taxis are subject to traffic congestion, while the BTS / MRT are not. I walk, but if tired take a taxi to the BTS station for onward travel.

As Nyezhov says, stay hydrated. Water, they have Gatorade and Perrier here, and I find a nam-a-now soda (it's lime (they say lemon but it IS lime) squash with soda water) VERY refreshing. Not sweet, tangy.

Given I walk a lot in the daytime, so my fitbit says, I'm wondering if I can write this trip off as medical expenses on my taxes. Just following my doctor's orders to get out and exercise. But I will say that NOT all the huffing and puffing comes from walking .... You'll be fine, traffic stops for pedestrians in crosswalks, and there are places to sit along the way.

[Tim Timms]

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[Tim Timms]

It is KILLING me, and I'm Southwest. I understand heat, but the HUMIDITY. And NO breeze, just oppressive. Think inside one of the NARROW Chatachak aisles ... and that's NOT Chatachak but walking down any street. If I'm lucky enough to get a seat on the BTS or MRT, I CAN'T lean back. My shirt is drenched, and with the a/c inside, it's that damp clammy feel. Saturday, arrived SOAKED, rain, sweat, and that sweat where you wear a rain jacket but still get soaked from your own sweat due to the heat/humidity. Girl hung my shirt outside so it'd be dry when we finished.

But I will say yesterday and today, in the afternoon, a bit less humidity and a breeze. A world of difference. Talking today with a Thai civilian, he said things should start to improve. Certainly hope so. But still having thundershowers.

Well hell, you certainly showed her. I bet her heart is broken (the old "broken heart, broken heart" refrain). It must really irk her that you're there gawking at other women while she's making money. hahaha

Think I figured it out.

Recently a Star from Rainbow 4 moved over to Rainbow 5. This Star likes getting 5 Squids about once a month from me. I'm ok with it, liked it better when she was on stage pre COVID Topless. Haha,

Mook thinks WTF why am I giving her more? Am I all of a sudden Chopped Liver? Resulting cold shoulder treatment. Mook gets 2 squids per.

Difference being Mook gets compensated way more than once a month. I'm not ok with compensating the ex Rain 4 girl more than once a month.

Bargirl Dynamics.

P.S. The are. 4 girl makes huge money but she gets antsy when she Feels it's that time of the month.

So yes girls do think about nice gentlemanly gentlemen who appreciate them.

Definition of appreciatio- Show Me the Money. LOL.