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 Originally Posted by OldSchool318
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I can think of a couple reasons. Being in the concrete jungle is a rush to some of these guys.
Many also are coming from a place where the high end shit is expensive and they are trying to save coin. Maybe they would save coin anyway by just being there but in the end. That's the way they choose to do it.
I have done it both ways going low end and high end. Even in between. I love street girls so sometimes that's the way I do it. I also love higher end girls too.
In the end I am most concerned with did you have a good time.
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 Originally Posted by CasaNoVa
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As upper middle class I can choose to fly under the radar in a third world country. Not bring much attention on myself and have my budget extend way further. From cheap hotels to Hostels I've been able to stay in countries much longer not pay a premium for lodging and women and search for those diamonds in the rough in the slummier mongering locations. I speak Spanish fluently and have had great experiences without breaking the bank. For me a pretty comfy bed and a roof over my head is all I need. Plus meeting likeminded backpackers and world travelers from all walk of life is fun when staying in hostels. If I meet a higher maintenance type of girl I always have the option of a nicer love motel or booking a 5 star hotel for one or 2 nights if necessary. I'm not flashy nor am I dirty and unhygienic. Upper thirties, fit, decent looking white Latino dude and you will find me having fun in Santa Fe, Centro Medellin or Gringo Gulch CR. If I want to treat a great girl I find to luxury we can always take a trip somewhere like Guatape or the beach.
Analogy: I try not to assume well off people from any City when going out into the woods always go glamping. Maybe a tent and a sleeping bag and connecting with the raw somewhat dangerous nature of it all is exciting to some. To others maybe not.
You can find loud, obnoxious, poorly educated gringos, with no class and poor hygiene, anywhere. If you're anywhere in Medellin, and you hear people conversing in English, there's a fair chance you'll hear something which fits into 1 of the categories above. Talk to 20 random gringos, probably 1 will have bad breath, body odor, or enough cologne to pose a health hazard. You can find them in Provenza and Parque Lleras, or in El Centro.
Poorly educated has no connection to the level of education completed. Read the forum and tell me I'm wrong. The post which started all this, which mentioned high school dropouts, appears to have been written by a low achieving 12 year old. Run it by your favorite 6th grade English teacher and watch the red pen go to work. The follow-up posts claiming a definite correlation between low class and preference for El Centro are nothing more than poorly disguised bigotry and bigotry can only exist by embracing ignorance.
Instead of posting your beliefs on the inferiority of people who have different preferences, why not post something useful? Where do you eat? What shopping do you do? What have you learned that helps you connect with the girls? What problems have you experienced and how did you overcome them? If you've spent more than a few weeks in Medellin, you should have some knowledge, which others can use to improve their visit.
And isn't helping others better than insulting people you know nothing about?
I'll start.
If I'm staying in an apartment, I'll usually cook breakfast. Fry some eggs, slice an avocado, and wash it down with some juice. Lunch I take at any Colombian restaurant, with a menu of the day. You should have no trouble finding something for under 25 k (when I started, 12-15 k was high end). That's your choice of pork chicken or beef, usually with rice, some type of potato, possibly yuca (edible drywall), a small salad, maybe a choice of soup or beans, and either juice or guandolo. It's just a simple meal, cheap and easy.
Talking to the girls, throw out a few compliments. Most will eat it up. Don't waste a lot of time getting to know them. If you're talking to a girl 6 months before your trip, you'll probably be disappointed. Make contact, let them know when you're coming and move on until you're on the way.
If you've got some special girls and want to make their stay more memorable, get a Disney+ subscription and bring a jar of bread and butter pickles (I wrap the jar in bubble wrap and put it in a zip lock bag in my checked bag). The pickles are like candy and Disney can be streamed in Spanish with English subtitles (or vice versa).
What useful tips do you have?
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It is a good read. It is funny that the author ended up in Medellin.
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 Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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Stereotype? The reality of a working girl is that they are fucking for money. Why would they have a need to be loyal or to not kiss anyone else that night? If you have an actual girlfriend then no she is not going around kissing any tom dick or harry. How is that even a thought? This is my actual girlfriend, but since she is Brazilian she has a tendency to go around the room kissing random strangers? That sounds ridiculous.
Sigh. https://www.charliehoehn.com/2010/11...ve-brazilians/.
The first thing you should know about Brazilian women is that, if you are in a bar or club, they are very quick to jump down your throat. I've seen guys walk up to them and passionately make out within 20 seconds of meeting, to the extent that it looks like they're going to rip each other's clothes off right in front of you. This is not an exaggeration.
https://www.quora.com/What-does-a-Br...anger-at-a-pub
What does a Brazilian kiss mean? Why do Brazilian girls like to engage in a kiss with a stranger at a pub?
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What do you mean you are more impressed by the Colombian work ethic? If a Colombian or Brazilian have a job, then they both go to them and work.
That says a lot about who have you been hanging around with. Go to an upscale home in Brazil and one in Colombia. What is the biggest difference between the two?
 Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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If you judge on hookers alone, isn't it said here that Colombian hookers should be expected to be late? You do not see that in Brazil.
You don't see that in Brazil? LOL. Hell, even if a woman wanted to be on time, you never know with the traffic in Sao Paulo.
 Originally Posted by MrEnternational
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I have had normal relationships with many Colombians and many Brazilians. They are both the same. If a woman anywhere loves you and wants to be with you then the relationship reflects that. It has nothing to do with having a yes woman who never tells you no about anything.
When I was in Colombia, the woman I was with spent two hours preparing a meal. In Colombia, the government has declared that Venezuelans be paid the same minimum wage as Colombians. Maybe there are some, but I have never heard of anyone having servants in Colombia.
When I went to upscale homes in Argentina and Brazil, the servants prepared the meal, did the cleaning, and hell even raised the children. I met an Argentine who lived in Canada that was skiing two days after giving birth, and the reason she was able to do was that she had so much help. She said in Canada she would have had only one child but she was able to have four because she had so much help. And every upscale home I looked at in Brazil and Argentina had servants quarters.
The helpers typically come from rural Brazil or Paraguay, and they are paid next to nothing. A Brazilian lawyer wanted to pay her servant more but she was told by neighbors not to do so as to not raise the price on everyone else. It is kind of like the guys here bitching at others for paying the hookers more.
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 Originally Posted by RamDavidson84
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As realistically as possible, how long could a mongering make it in Medellin if they had 1 million in cash? Could you go forever and budget your shit right. Make some money off the interest. Work some digital nomad gigs and make that shit last 20 years and live comfortably? Anyone thoughts from some people who have long term experience would be appreciated.
If your money was properly invested and with little risk tolerance yes, you could live in perpetuity with that much and live like a king in Medellin.
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Tantra Massage
I like great sex just like everyone else but from time to time I like a good tantra message with a good lingam massage finish. I haven't explored that in Medellin yet but I do see some offers. Tantra Medellin appears to be a place that offers that but quality is unknown. Carrera 80 #44 b-139 is the address. 120 mil for 45 minutes including oral, unclear if that is BBBJCIM. Anyone try that place? Any recommendations for an attractive woman that offers a good tantra massage?
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 Originally Posted by UnknownGnome
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What is everyone's favourite massage parkour right now? I've been going to Abybos, Zen Spa, El Garage.
Any recommendations of parlours and specific girls? Look for HS mainly.
Om Spa for Men is the only one I've tried in the last couple years and the most I've gotten a girl to do is a HJ. How are those others? Do they offer more?
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He's one of my FB friends LOL
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Don,
I cannot imagine doing a business in Brazil. Granted, Venezuela is worse, but I would even do Argentina over Brazil, and Argentina like Venezuela has a culture that says swindling people is okay. Both countries have defaulted on their debt like ten times. Still, unlike Venezuela, Argentina works as a country much better because of a crazy barter system and personal trust. There does seem to be a small subset of people in Argentina you can trust.
Brazil's slogan is that it is going to be the next great country in the world and always will be, and I did not get why until I went there. OMG, the system is corrupt. The rich people have tied up so much that it is very hard for the poor to get ahead, and I was not impressed with the work ethic in general of the Brazilians.
But like Turgid say, the WGs in Brazil are amazing. I don't know if they take a class in it but the women give great oral. I cannot recall moaning from BJs more in my life. So yeah, it is intriguing. The women are fun, friendly, horny, and great in the sack. Thing is they have a reputation of not being loyal. The woman who just DFK you often will do the same with five other guys that night. That is the stereotype anyway.
I am much more impressed with the Colombian work ethic and while the Colombian women may not be as skilled as Brazilians I think the Colombian women are much friendlier and sweeter. I have been serious with one Colombian woman and semi-serious with two, and I cannot recall any of them ever telling me no. They have often busted their asses to make me happy.
And maybe I am stereotyping about countries and women but there is some truth to most stereotypes. Funny thing is a guy wrote a book stereotyping the different Latinas: https://www.amazon.com/Chicaspotting.../dp/B018FLYEMA.
And it is funny and IMO pretty accurate. Of course, the woke mob wants the book banned.
Guess I should read his book. Lives in Medellin. https://www.facebook.com/josephbovino you remeer my target market for sculptures are plastic surgeons? De. Robert Rey etc.
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 Originally Posted by Ullo200
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Wow great to hear from someone who has personal experience with both hotels, I am planning to book one of them for one day and then decide where to spend rest to the time after looking on both when I reach there, I have to visit Medellin from August 3 to August 23 , I know that this area is a little dangerous (I have been there only 2 times but only in daylight) , do to think its too dangerous to stay there as you have personal experience staying that area?
Sorry it took me a few days to get back to you, I've been pretty busy lately. The area is fine during the day, just don't go flashing around your "coin" or your IPhone 16 XL or whatever and you will be fine. I'd say be back in your hotel by no later than 9 pm but usually most the action moves to Poblado and Parque Lleras by the time, where the same girls charge guys like MB1 5 times more because they are gringos and have "the coin" LOL. But yea you will be fine in the Botero / Veracruz are during the day time hours.
Also if you want to save urself a little "coin" and put it to other uses such as a second polvo, and you don't mind walking a few blocks thru the scary congrete jungle, I would recommend the hotels on the other side of avenida oriental one block past Exito San Antonio. The area is called El Palo con El Huevo and there are several hotels there that will be even cheaper than Calle Real or Premier Plaza.
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 Originally Posted by CasaNoVa
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As upper middle class I can choose to fly under the radar in a third world country. Not bring much attention on myself and have my budget extend way further. From cheap hotels to Hostels I've been able to stay in countries much longer not pay a premium for lodging and women and search for those diamonds in the rough in the slummier mongering locations. I speak Spanish fluently and have had great experiences without breaking the bank. For me a pretty comfy bed and a roof over my head is all I need. Plus meeting likeminded backpackers and world travelers from all walk of life is fun when staying in hostels. If I meet a higher maintenance type of girl I always have the option of a nicer love motel or booking a 5 star hotel for one or 2 nights if necessary. I'm not flashy nor am I dirty and unhygienic. Upper thirties, fit, decent looking white Latino dude and you will find me having fun in Santa Fe, Centro Medellin or Gringo Gulch CR. If I want to treat a great girl I find to luxury we can always take a trip somewhere like Guatape or the beach.
Analogy: I try not to assume well off people from any City when going out into the woods always go glamping. Maybe a tent and a sleeping bag and connecting with the raw somewhat dangerous nature of it all is exciting to some. To others maybe not.
MiamiBoy is just being a ******* as usual. The fact of the matter is that- El Centro is the heart of Medellin and you can find people from all walks of life there. Wasting money just because you have it is stupid. Obviously, as he has proven time and time again with his arrogant posts, MB1 doesn't know the real Colombia, he stays in his plastic barrios fucking his plastic women that he overpays.
El Centro is much more than just Botero or Veracruz, it is the heart of the city where you can find anything your looking for whether that be bandeja paisa, paintings being sold by local artists, even shower heads and excellent quality knock off shoes. I myself like to sip on a 2 mil lemonade while sitting down and people watching.
As far as the prostitution goes sure there are a lot of undesirable hags in the Veracruz area but there are also beautiful, sweet diamonds in the rough to be found there, it just takes a little effort to find what you are looking for. To blow the whole place off is just asinine. But hey I guess if you've got "the coin" you can live in your own little arrogant world.
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 Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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But like Turgid say, the WGs in Brazil are amazing. I don't know if they take a class in it but the women give great oral. I cannot recall moaning from BJs more in my life. So yeah, it is intriguing. The women are fun, friendly, horny, and great in the sack. Thing is they have a reputation of not being loyal. The woman who just DFK you often will do the same with five other guys that night. That is the stereotype anyway.
Stereotype? The reality of a working girl is that they are fucking for money. Why would they have a need to be loyal or to not kiss anyone else that night? If you have an actual girlfriend then no she is not going around kissing any tom dick or harry. How is that even a thought? This is my actual girlfriend, but since she is Brazilian she has a tendency to go around the room kissing random strangers? That sounds ridiculous.
 Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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I am much more impressed with the Colombian work ethic and while the Colombian women may not be as skilled as Brazilians I think the Colombian women are much friendlier and sweeter. I have been serious with one Colombian woman and semi-serious with two, and I cannot recall any of them ever telling me no. They have often busted their asses to make me happy.
What do you mean you are more impressed by the Colombian work ethic? If a Colombian or Brazilian have a job, then they both go to them and work. If you judge on hookers alone, isn't it said here that Colombian hookers should be expected to be late? You do not see that in Brazil. I have had normal relationships with many Colombians and many Brazilians. They are both the same. If a woman anywhere loves you and wants to be with you then the relationship reflects that. It has nothing to do with having a yes woman who never tells you no about anything.
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 Originally Posted by RamDavidson84
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As realistically as possible, how long could a mongering make it in Medellin if they had 1 million in cash? Could you go forever and budget your shit right. Make some money off the interest. Work some digital nomad gigs and make that shit last 20 years and live comfortably? Anyone thoughts from some people who have long term experience would be appreciated.
I had a nest egg that would be about that if adjusted for inflation from the time I retired 11 years ago. I have been living all over and I budget my shit right and I have about the same amount of inflation adjusted money as I did when I retired. Didn't work much, some, and have lived very comfortably. I think you are younger like maybe 40 but if you have a million after tax and ANY brains and skills at all, and have experience working on line, you should go for it. But don't think about interest. Think about capital gains. If you want money to last forever, you have to have substantial exposure to equities vs. Income-oriented investments.
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 Originally Posted by RamDavidson84
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As realistically as possible, how long could a mongering make it in Medellin if they had 1 million in cash? Could you go forever and budget your shit right. Make some money off the interest. Work some digital nomad gigs and make that shit last 20 years and live comfortably? Anyone thoughts from some people who have long term experience would be appreciated.
Interesting question and of course would depend on how you would live in Colombia. Will you be living in Poblado in a strata 5 or 6 neighborhood or a lower strata neighborhood. Are you going to be eating in fancy places or at home. Are you going to be patronizing with SW's, have some girlfriends, or whatever. Where are you going to park this money, was your intent to bring it in to Colombia? Maybe rephrase your question with some parameters as to what your expectations are, and perhaps others can help answer your question better.
Regardless, a guy could easily live in Medellin for twenty years on $ 500,000 if he invested his money wisely.
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Far from the "Third World"
 Originally Posted by CasaNoVa
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As upper middle class I can choose to fly under the radar in a third world country.............
Excuse the pedantics and this digression from posting on the noble pursuit of Paisa pussy, but here goes a needed corrective to the post quoted above.
Applying the label "third world" to any country is 40 years out of date, and in the case of Colombia is quite inaccurate and could reasonably be perceived as patronizing and insulting. The terms "First", "Second" and "Third World" date to the Cold War era, when the allied, industrialized "Western Bloc" countries (also including the Eastern likes of Australia and Japan) were designated as "First World", the Communist bloc countries allied with the Soviet Union were "Second World", and most all the other non-allied countries were "Third World". However, in popular usage Third World came to imply impoverished" and "undeveloped" although it included countries such as Saudi Arabia and Uruguay with high per capita incomes. Since the break-up of the Soviet Union in 1992 these categorizations have lost their relevance.
Today some commentators refer to "developed" versus "developing countries". However, the World Bank and IMF use a more neutral (non-judgmental) categorization based on four income groups: low, lower-middle, upper-middle, and high income. It might surprise some to learn that Colombia (and most all of South America) is classified as "Upper-Middle Income"--far removed from the "third world" implied stigma. See this link for a map and listing of these income categories by country:
https://datatopics.worldbank.org/wor...nd-region.html#text=The%20 World%20 Bank%20 classifies%20 economies,%2 Dmiddle%2 C%20 and%20 high%20 income.
And look here for definitions and map of "First, Second, and Third World countries as used way back when:
https://www.nationsonline.org/onewor..._countries.htm
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 Originally Posted by NycNative1
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I've been frequenting this site for years but this is my first post. A lot of my friends are too chicken shit to go to Colombia to monger they are stuck on the. Are, I spent time in guat city mongering so I'm not afraid to go solo I am not a gringo just American LOL. My question is where are the fast houses in Medellin that fuck for 10 us? Guatemala city fast houses were 7.50-11 usd. I had a 3 some for 120 q = 15 usd in Guatemala. I always bring my own protection and I blend in. Looking for the barrios in Medellin.
The casas or the street girls in El centro is what you are looking for.
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 Originally Posted by DonCarlos1234
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That is amazing!
Too many videos promoting sex tourism pissed off the government & a lot of the locals. Buy a coffee. Chill and watch the show. Spend some $ at Marquee and make them happy.
Possibly that. But also I was told by a local it is an attempt to stop underage prostitution. There are terrible stories about that circulating in local press and the gossip mill. And so the politicos are forced to act.
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