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[Mr Enternational]

Guys make money and they are entitled to spend that money anyway they want.

Sure. But it is still weird to see a guy walk into McDonald's and pay $15 for a $5 Big Mac.

It is nonsense that a few guys are affecting the market as a whole.

It may seem like nonsense until it actually happens. Take a look in the Costa Rica, Sosua, and Cartagena threads for exact examples of this nonsense as you claim it to be.

This time last year, I was picking up girls for two or three hours for around 200.000 to 300.000 COP without fuss. Overnight was only around 400.000 to 500.000 COP.

I have been here for two nights now, and now all the girls are quoting their fees in USD only. Some have the audacity to charge 100 USD for un rato. But I have noticed the standard one hour at 100 USD and then overnight is an additional 400.000 COP on top.

The market here in Cartagena has been completely ruined now compared to last year and previous few years. Street girls shouldn't be charging 900.000 COP plus for an overnight.

I'm here now and experiencing the same exact thing. Girls that I've fucked for 300 k are quoting $150. I offered a girl 350 k and she told me it wasn't enough to feed her dog. I know Cartagena is viral but Jesus Christ a lot has changed in a year. Personally I won't be back for a while if ever. Unless you feel like waiting for 3/4 am every night to find a chica that hasn't gotten picked or it's going to be a challenge to find a girl for under 400 k. I hope I'm wrong but I won't be back to find out.

[HorseTrader]

The comments about what other guys pay and criticism that they are suckers or idiots is just silly. Guys make money and they are entitled to spend that money anyway they want. It is nonsense that a few guys are affecting the market as a whole.

This is exactly how I feel. The man who earns $500,000 per year is going to have less financial stress from a 7,000 baht LT go-go girl than the man who earns $50,000 per year has from an 800 baht ST freelancer. That rich man isn't going to want to negotiate price or deal with girls who don't have the looks and personality that he wants. There are relatively few of these high income men, so they won't materially change the Thailand P4P price structure. He will enjoy his money any way he wants.

[Mr Enternational]

How much do you pay for where you live? I see some have condos. I've seen some condos on YouTube for as cheap as 5,000 thai baht a month or $150 usd. If you've seen these in real life are they clean and a good cheap option?

Yes it is just a normal place. Pool, laundry, gym. Keep in mind that the closer you are to the action the more you pay. But here in Pattaya there are plenty of virtually new condos at that price in Jomtien.

[Horatio]

How much do you pay for where you live? I see some have condos. I've seen some condos on YouTube for as cheap as 5,000 thai baht a month or $150 usd. If you've seen these in real life are they clean and a good cheap option? I kind of want the Rawai area of phuket but would still appreciate any advice on anywhere in thailand.

Does anyone just do years in motels, just traveling about? The very top end of my budget for housing is.

20,000 thb a month or $600 usd but I would like to cut that as low as possible while still a nice place to live. Clean and in a location with stuff to walk to is most important.

Thank you for any help.

[GerryGa]

You're completely lost man.

This is exactly what I was talking about. You personalized the conversation. I never mentioned a pacific fellow member. I was simply trying to point out that we all have a right to behave as we do and spend money as we wish and it really shouldn't concern anybody else. I freely admit that if there are members who have issues with this there are possible explanations. Why get so agitated Paolo. Chill bro.

[MoonShot]

It comes down to the following questions: 1. Is there a qualitative difference in pussy? Yes. Can that qualitative difference be determined by the price quoted by the prostitute you intend to hire? No.

Because, I have no experience in Thailand (first trip planned for later this year) I have to comment from my experience on the Latin American side. I am going to leave the characterization that has been proffered by RacSopheni alone. I am not going to come up in here and claim that anyone is lying on their dick.

The bottom line is that pussy is a market and there are different price points. Everyone pays what they choose to pay.

I have paid anywhere from 1000 DOP to 300 USD to bust a nut in the same country in Latin America. I remember the experiences not the payment. If you ask me was the 2 orgasms I received for 300 USD better than the 2 orgasms I received for 1000 DOP I will tell you no. In my mind they were equal. But I will tell you that I remember both experiences vividly. And I would repeat them both. Did I know that the 300 USD experience would be one for the memory books? No I did not. Did I know that the 1000 DOP experience would be one for the memory books? No, I did not. Was the 300 USD girl more attractive than the 1000 DOP girl? Not at all. They were two different girls with completely different body types and they were not even from the same country..

The comments about what other guys pay and criticism that they are suckers or idiots is just silly. Guys make money and they are entitled to spend that money anyway they want. It is nonsense that a few guys are affecting the market as a whole. There is a range of girls available for different prices. Not all mongers are in the same financial position. I know a number of guys in the financial field who make millions every year who enjoy going to Thailand and spending that cash. What they pay the girls is peanuts to them and they don't care about trying to negotiating down 1000 or 2000 baht on a girl because they make that in less than five minutes. The point is that every monger is different and not every monger cares about trying to negotiating down to the lowest price that the girl will take.

[SubCmdr]

Just like massages. Everybody knows that getting a massage on Beach Road or Walking Street will be 300 baht. Go back to Soi Buakhao and they will be 200 baht. Go a little further to where I live off 3rd Road and you will pay 150 baht. Who would get bent out of shape over someone telling them where they could get the same massage for cheaper, the way some guys get bent out of shape by someone telling them how they could fuck literally the same girl for cheaper.

I am all ears about the massage information. Note that you did not judge. You just provided information. Thank you for that. That is how I learn. But finding a massage a cheaper price based on location is far cry from the claim that you can fuck the exact same girl for less money. I question that assumption. You can always fuck any girl for less money than another girl. But I would like to see you present and example of how you can fuck the exact same girl for less money.

Most of the times, the judgment occurs because someone is doing something differently from someone else.

Couldn't agree with you more. To hell with the begrudgers. Who are these self-appointed self-styled arbiters of taste and values who while supposedly happy playing in their own corner of the sandbox feel entitled to judge others who choose to freely and enjoyably travel in a different direction. Is it possibly jealousy because of their inadequate finances or perhaps a more perverted know all control freak personality? Either way who cares, if I feel like paying 10,000 for a night out I go for it with no regrets and you know it's always been my strong impression that those who spend money freely enjoy a more fulfilled life.

In complete agreement with you Brother GerryGa. Spend your money how you like. I enjoy saving money on plane flights. I enjoy saving money on pussy. But if I want an Angus Ribeye I am going to pay what it takes to get it. And I don't care if you think red meat is bad for me and I shouldn't eat it. But if you want to tell me where I can get my Angus Ribeye of equal quality at a lesser price I am all ears.

Agree with both points- but try as we might to retain our equanimity I think we are always passing judgements on others. The problem is everyone's rating scale is calibrated differently and that can make it hard to evaluate field intelligence. For example- when I used to read the Medellin threads, there was always some guy talking about scoring a 9 in Centro for some ridiculous low price- which is a total farce- 9's don't go to Central unless they are trying to make some quick money to pay the Cartel or something. He probably scored a 6. 5 but to him; it was a 9. My 8 may be Chan Chalupa's 5, etc. Etc. So guys get huffed and puffed when bragging is made and clearly there is a disconnect from reality. We never can really know the truth, only version of it.

Agree also about the Pussy market. Market forces have a collective wisdom that's smarter than any one punter. Occasionally inefficiencies exist that can be exploited but the rule of large numbers flattens out most relative divergence.

You make my point about quality RakSopheni. That is the problem. My analogy of the Plane Ticket can only go so far. As we know were are comparing equal things. But even then no. If you have a direct flight as opposed to one that takes 4 stops and is 4 times as long. Then you have to factor in the trade off between your time and money. My point is no one else can judge the decision that I make when choosing the importance of the two. I have no problem with the people who are cheep Charlies. If I want to buy something more expensive, I figure out how to make more money (or save up) to buy it. That is not getting bent out of shape. That is real man shit!.

How much for complete full service that you described?

Speaking of judgement just take a look a this post:

Nobody tried to ridiculize anyone or be a self-appointed arbiters of taste as you said.

Read back the last posts and you'll see that Mr Sopheni said he didn't understand why one would blow up more money than what he did by going a different path than him (Gogos vs freelancers).

He got some answers as to why but nobody told him he's got it wrong the way he does it and you come out with your tyrade of self-appointed arbiters, inadequate finance, jalousy and control freak personnality.

Youre completely lost man.

The defense rests.

[Paolo99]

Couldn't agree with you more. To hell with the begrudgers. Who are these self-appointed self-styled arbiters of taste and values who while supposedly happy playing in their own corner of the sandbox feel entitled to judge others who choose to freely and enjoyably travel in a different direction. Is it possibly jealousy because of their inadequate finances or perhaps a more perverted know all control freak personality? Either way who cares, if I feel like paying 10,000 for a night out I go for it with no regrets and you know it's always been my strong impression that those who spend money freely enjoy a more fulfilled life.

Nobody tried to ridiculize anyone or be a self-appointed arbiters of taste as you said.

Read back the last posts and you'll see that Mr Sopheni said he didn't understand why one would blow up more money than what he did by going a different path than him (Gogos vs freelancers).

He got some answers as to why but nobody told him he's got it wrong the way he does it and you come out with your tyrade of self-appointed arbiters, inadequate finance, jalousy and control freak personnality.

You're completely lost man.

[Chan Chalupa]

No I did not watch 7 hours of his Livestream. I bounce around.

Its like Television back in the day.

It's like reading a Book before bedtime. Livestreamers serve a purpose. Hahaha.

[GerryGa]

It comes down to the following questions: 1. Is there a qualitative difference in pussy? Yes. Can that qualitative difference be determined by the price quoted by the prostitute you intend to hire? No.

Because, I have no experience in Thailand (first trip planned for later this year) I have to comment from my experience on the Latin American side. I am going to leave the characterization that has been proffered by RacSopheni alone. I am not going to come up in here and claim that anyone is lying on their dick.

The bottom line is that pussy is a market and there are different price points. Everyone pays what they choose to pay.

I have paid anywhere from 1000 DOP to 300 USD to bust a nut in the same country in Latin America. I remember the experiences not the payment. If you ask me was the 2 orgasms I received for 300 USD better than the 2 orgasms I received for 1000 DOP I will tell you no. In my mind they were equal. But I will tell you that I remember both experiences vividly. And I would repeat them both. Did I know that the 300 USD experience would be one for the memory books? No I did not. Did I know that the 1000 DOP experience would be one for the memory books? No, I did not. Was the 300 USD girl more attractive than the 1000 DOP girl? Not at all. They were two different girls with completely different body types and they were not even from the same country.

If we are lighting fires to straw men I don't think anyone should be judging anyone else about how much money they choose to pay for a prostitute. We are all men up in here and as men no one should be telling another grown man how to spend their hard earned money. Remember it is not your dick nor your money. So exactly where does some get off on telling someone else anything other than what their own preferences are. What is the point of judgement?

And don't give me that often quoted nonsense that paying more affects the market. Really? On that plane you flew over on, ask your fellow passengers how much they paid for the ticket. I bet you find people who paid more than you did and those who paid less. But yet you ALL had wheels down in the exact same place at the exact same time. Think about that.

Couldn't agree with you more. To hell with the begrudgers. Who are these self-appointed self-styled arbiters of taste and values who while supposedly happy playing in their own corner of the sandbox feel entitled to judge others who choose to freely and enjoyably travel in a different direction. Is it possibly jealousy because of their inadequate finances or perhaps a more perverted know all control freak personality? Either way who cares, if I feel like paying 10,000 for a night out I go for it with no regrets and you know it's always been my strong impression that those who spend money freely enjoy a more fulfilled life.

[Mr Enternational]

On that plane you flew over on, ask your fellow passengers how much they paid for the ticket. I bet you find people who paid more than you did and those who paid less. But yet you ALL had wheels down in the exact same place at the exact same time. Think about that.

True. And knowing that you are getting the exact same thing, would you rather be the person that paid more or the one that paid less? If anyone can advise me on how to pay less for something of equal or greater value, then I take no offense, instead I am all ears.

Just like massages. Everybody knows that getting a massage on Beach Road or Walking Street will be 300 baht. Go back to Soi Buakhao and they will be 200 baht. Go a little further to where I live off 3rd Road and you will pay 150 baht. Who would get bent out of shape over someone telling them where they could get the same massage for cheaper, the way some guys get bent out of shape by someone telling them how they could fuck literally the same girl for cheaper.

[RakSopheni]

I've been sampling some of the GC's in the Buakhao area and Bongkot. Saw one of my providers from last Summer at Badabing who now has a new rack which is amazing. Excellent DFK, BBBJ and COT. Sampled some talent at Screamers on Soi Boomerang, a cute new girl age 20 with a beautiful smile but no CIM. Didn't cum anywhere actually. Excite Club looked decent but too busy. Club Fate on Boomerang consistently disappoints- no bange-able girls on premise. Slutz Boomerang was dead. Also did LT with my girl from the first day. BBFSCIP multiple times. She enjoys when I CIP with her in Cowgirl and lingers to grind on my dick until she comes herself as the cum in her pussy turns her on. Trying to pace myself.

Upon further consideration, things do seem slow- I feel like there might even be less punters on the ground now than this time last year. Most girls are complaining about a lack of customers.

Whenever I go through TF profiles, almost invariably the following happens: as soon as I click on the profile of a girl who looks like moderately skinny, she metamorphoses into a chunky girl on her other pics. She's the same girl all right, nothing to say about that, only she is the fat girl version of what she looked like on her profile pic.

Completely true although sometimes the fat picture does not come until the end of the sequence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D79kNCNJBes

Rate this girl. Scroll to 6:14. Her name RIRI.

Earlier I wrote about an idiot. 1-7 cited examples. This is the EVIL girl. Hahahaha.

I said earlier I rate her 3. 5. Ill be nicer and now say 4. 00.

WHAT SAY YOU? Would you pay her 1,000 or 3,000 short time? No barfine, just her FEE.

I actually agree with your 4 rating. Did you really watch 7 hours of this garbage livestream?

If we are lighting fires to straw men I don't think anyone should be judging anyone else about how much money they choose to pay for a prostitute. We are all men up in here and as men no one should be telling another grown man how to spend their hard earned money. Remember it is not your dick nor your money. So exactly where does some get off on telling someone else anything other than what their own preferences are. What is the point of judgement?

And don't give me that often quoted nonsense that paying more affects the market. Really? On that plane you flew over on, ask your fellow passengers how much they paid for the ticket. I bet you find people who paid more than you did and those who paid less. But yet you ALL had wheels down in the exact same place at the exact same time. Think about that.

Agree with both points- but try as we might to retain our equanimity I think we are always passing judgements on others. The problem is everyone's rating scale is calibrated differently and that can make it hard to evaluate field intelligence. For example- when I used to read the Medellin threads, there was always some guy talking about scoring a 9 in Centro for some ridiculous low price- which is a total farce- 9's don't go to Central unless they are trying to make some quick money to pay the Cartel or something. He probably scored a 6. 5 but to him; it was a 9. My 8 may be Chan Chalupa's 5, etc. Etc. So guys get huffed and puffed when bragging is made and clearly there is a disconnect from reality. We never can really know the truth, only version of it.

Agree also about the Pussy market. Market forces have a collective wisdom that's smarter than any one punter. Occasionally inefficiencies exist that can be exploited but the rule of large numbers flattens out most relative divergence.

[D Cups]

I have paid anywhere from 1000 DOP to 300 USD to bust a nut in the same country in Latin America. I remember the experiences not the payment. If you ask me was the 2 orgasms I received for 300 USD better than the 2 orgasms I received for 1000 DOP I will tell you no. In my mind they were equal. But I will tell you that I remember both experiences vividly. And I would repeat them both. Did I know that the 300 USD experience would be one for the memory books? No I did not. Did I know that the 1000 DOP experience would be one for the memory books? No, I did not. Was the 300 USD girl more attractive than the 1000 DOP girl? Not at all. They were two different girls with completely different body types and they were not even from the same country.

Hiya Sub. You make some obvious good points. I have two main squeezes that I see when I go to the DR and I pay each of them $100 plus meals if they stay overnight, of course. They are both my personal porn queens who love being videoed especially for the money shot. Squeeze One from Santo Domingo has 42 Gee tits and is gorgeous and will suck my balls ad infinitum. Squeeze Two is from Santiago, 40 double dee, also nice looking, andis about as naughty as is possible, a real cum queen. So, I travel all the way from PI just to see them annually. And sometimes bring them a nice piece of lingerie from Lane Bryant. As for Patts, this is only 2 hour plane ride and 2 hour bus ride from where I live on Negros so I will be going there more often. I have had some nice street walkers and busty massage girls there for 1500 baht. As you indicated YMMV and what you see is not always what you get but there are so many factors beyond finance including history, chemistry, personal fitness and pharmacology. Cheers and as you say may the pussy be with you jeje.

[Horatio]

Short time is about a half hour to an hour if you go upstairs at a bar. A bit longer if you take her back to your motel. Long term is overnight, with the girl leaving anytime between 630 or so to early afternoon. Most of the long terms I've had left about 10.

How long is a typical short time / long time?

[Mr Enternational]

Invented the word Jawns. Girls.

No idea what this post means, but jawns is slang from Philadelphia. I doubt the guy with the Gucci fits invented it.