Pattaya Reports

[Chan Chalupa]

This might be the way to go. I mean it's how it works in a GC. Anyone else try this before?

Yes.

I think all this Hate against Koreans spending Gobs of money in WS agogos is false rage.

We're any of you Barfining in these places Pre. Covid?

Nothing's changed Outrageous Barfine s kept me from going all in then and it's still same same for me now.

Let it go Fellas.

[RakSopheni]

And that is why if I plan to fuck then I just walk up and say lets go boom boom. It is point and shoot. No need for questions .

This might be the way to go. I mean it's how it works in a GC. Anyone else try this before?

[Paolo99]

The girls that I finally do get upstairs often seem strangely inexperienced and expecting vanilla condom only missionary, doggy, cum inside condom sex. This is not how I roll. Sometimes it's hard for me to believe that none of you have initiated these girls into the wonderful world of things like deepthroat and cum in mouth, cum in pussy- but this is what the girls are claiming. It makes me wonder if mongers such as myself are the minority in Pattaya and the main type of punter is content buying rack after rack of shots for random Isaan girls while pretending to enjoy connect 4. I mean did you guys know that we used to have an expectation that these girls would be fucking us? That was the main point of Soi 6.

There is a constant turn-over in that soi. Girls come and go pretty quickly for diverse reasons it seems. Nightwish seems to be the most powerfull force to bring new girls in, their touts are doing a good job of attracting new talent over facebook or instagram. But it seems that many of them are thrown in without a proper understanding of what they have to do to succeed. Inevitably a lot of them quit after a few weeks or months because they didn't expect it to be that hard (they cannot succeed in making their drink quotas, they are not able to learn English, don't like to have sex with random guys or whatever else reasons). That's why so many of them are inexperienced or "drink only". The ones able to make it are the cuties that relate only on drinks, and the average looking ones who learned to be patient and learned how to sip drinks from customers from time to time and probably get a few regulars, plus the freelancers who rely almost exclusively on ST and LT (maybe you need to meet some of these to get a better sex experience).

Otherwise, I hope you like Connect 4 and competing with Koreans for who can waste the most money on girls that are never going to have sex with you.

After one drink (or even before as stated by other members) we should be able to know if the girl is going to go upstairs or not, and cut our losses early if it's not the case.

[Paolo99]

I agree that most ladies seem to be desperate for customers. Never ever before have I received so many likes and mails in Thai Friendly in my first 24 hours in town. It was unbelievable. It already started when the bus from Bangkok had barely reached the city limits, around 1 PM. And it went on and on. By midnight I had dozens of them.
Of course more than half of the ladies were too old, too ugly, too heavy, too skinny, too 'photo shopped', or any combination of those, as usual. But there were plenty of nice options in the other half, with girls ranging from 18 to 35 yo (my target group), and with quite a lot of 7's and 8's.

Sweet girl with a flawless body, a lovely round little butt, no tattoos, and a tight pussy. She saved my day.

If you take TF likes and messages as a sign of girls being desperate you are going to keep on having bad surprises.

Unless you go for junkies and uglies or oldies, it's hard to find a decent looking girl being desperate in Pattaya at the moment.

[Mr Enternational]

I will buy one round of drinks to test the waters. After slogging through 3 rounds or so of "testing the waters" drinks I will generally find a girl to my liking, but this is a lot of money and time wasted. I mean did you guys know that we used to have an expectation that these girls would be fucking us?

And that is why if I plan to fuck then I just walk up and say lets go boom boom. It is point and shoot. No need for questions and no need for drinks.

I don't necessarily enjoy talking one more time about where I'm from, how long I'm staying, blah blah.

Went and met up with a Thai Friendly chick the other night that works in a Treetown bar. She was telling me that she gets as tired of asking that same shit as you get tired of hearing it.

The other day driving down Soi Pothole I see a chick I used to fuck from Soi 6. I stop and talk to her and tell her I will send her a message later. When I got home and sent the message she did not respond until hours later. I went up to the bar later to buy her a drink and ask her why she did not respond. She said when she gets to work the boss makes them put the cell phones away. I noticed it must have been the same at the other places on the street. Then I noticed the same in Treetown. Maybe guys in other threads that report their anger about going into bars just to see chicks on their phones need to make a trip to Pattaya.

[Mr Enternational]

Never ever before have I received so many likes and mails in Thai Friendly in my first 24 hours in town. It was unbelievable. It already started when the bus from Bangkok had barely reached the city limits, around 1 PM. And it went on and on. By midnight I had dozens of them.

A buddy of mine signed up the other day and his inbox was rocking. Problem is that he is an older guy and looks like he will never be able to keep up and be efficient with the process. I was showing him how the girl gives her Line then how he has to add her ID to his Line. It was taking him 15 minutes to just do that. So by the time he talks to a couple of chicks and he adds them to Line and they stop responding, he will have wasted an entire day.

It is a numbers game just like anything else. You assume the chicks are there and trying to get money, but even when they say it, they do not show it. Had a chick supposed to come yesterday after I was too busy for the last few days to see her. She said she would come in 1 hour. I said you need to be here in 15 minutes. She said ok. After 30 minutes she still had not left her house. Then when I call her on it she is going to tell me to fuck off as if she was doing me a favor.

If someone is ready to give you some money then you would think hey I am going to get there as quick as I can while the getting is good. But not these chicks. Just goes to show how true Neil Hutchison's books are. You are the last priority after the fleas on her dog's dick, no matter what you are trying to do for her.

Nevertheless it was a real PITA to make an appointment with one of them. Some of the girls I contacted did not reply anymore after we had exchanged some messages, or they replied after 30 minutes or even more. In the meantime I had already contacted another girl.
Then when I thought I had finally made an appointment with a really nice looking girl, she didn't confirm it.
So I made an appointment with another one, but she didn't show up and didn't even read my messages anymore!

The shit is like herding cats. Working within the system is pretty much second nature to me after all these years, and I do not hesitate to delete someone as quick as I added them.

P.S. Went and met up with a chick on there the other day who drives Bolt. The next day I asked her how work was going. She only had 2 fares from 2 pm to 10 pm.

[Mr Enternational]

I know several girls from a Gogo who focus on Koreans only for that reason. Why go LT with a farang for 3 K ex barfine if you can have a Korean who is willing to pay 10 k.

You speak as if that option presents itself daily in a predictable way. Like the girl shows up for work and knows she will have those 2 choices right in front of her. The girl is not shooing off the 3 K guy at 10 pm because she is sure the 10 K guy will be there at midnight.

[Mogwai]

There was a 3 day holiday this weekend, so Pattaya was jammed with visitors from Bangkok. And, the top tier venues like Windmill can be jammed even during Low Season.
But, most ladies are fairly desperate for customers. I went to Ban Chang and barfined a MILF who clearly hadn't been laid for a long time. We came back to Pattaya, and I barfined a second lady, who was herself pretty horny, although professionally so.

I agree that most ladies seem to be desperate for customers. Never ever before have I received so many likes and mails in Thai Friendly in my first 24 hours in town. It was unbelievable. It already started when the bus from Bangkok had barely reached the city limits, around 1 PM. And it went on and on. By midnight I had dozens of them.
Of course more than half of the ladies were too old, too ugly, too heavy, too skinny, too 'photo shopped', or any combination of those, as usual. But there were plenty of nice options in the other half, with girls ranging from 18 to 35 yo (my target group), and with quite a lot of 7's and 8's.

Nevertheless it was a real PITA to make an appointment with one of them. Some of the girls I contacted did not reply anymore after we had exchanged some messages, or they replied after 30 minutes or even more. In the meantime I had already contacted another girl.
Then when I thought I had finally made an appointment with a really nice looking girl, she didn't confirm it.
So I made an appointment with another one, but she didn't show up and didn't even read my messages anymore!
By that time it was 9:30 pm, and I was rather pissed because I prefer to have my sessions in the afternoon, or early evening at the latest.
But I had just received a 'like' from a cute 20 yo, a little spinner who ticked all my boxes. She replied instantly, asked 'only' 1500 (most of the girls were asking 2000), agreed on BBFS right away, and about 20 minutes later she was in my room. Now it is very much hit or miss with these young girls, in my experience, but this one was a definite hit. Sweet girl with a flawless body, a lovely round little butt, no tattoos, and a tight pussy. She saved my day.

[Explorer8939]

One of my regulars came over for drinks this afternoon and was unusually kissy. Since she has a Thai husband and a full time Farang customer, I knew something was up.

Sure enough, after an hour or so, she asked to borrow 3,000 baht.

I told her the ATM was closed, and soon after, sent her home (because another lady was coming soon).

[Paolo99]

I know several girls from a Gogo who focus on Koreans only for that reason. Why go LT with a farang for 3 K ex barfine if you can have a Korean who is willing to pay 10 k.

I'm not even sure they take these girls out on ST or LT.

Some of them like to blow the money in the gogo, that's for sure.

One night I was in Palace, 2 Koreans left empty handed with a 8 K bill just next to me. Another night in Iron, some of them were constantly ringing the bell and paying loads of tequila racks for random girls. Another night in Fahrenheit 2 guys were throwing 20 bahts bills and ping pong balls. They pay drinks for almost any girls that come and talk them. That's the primary reason girls are targeting them.

[Paolo99]

Pattaya Shocking Update.

Cheapest lady drink on Soi 6? Double digits? Where?

You'll save 50 baht per drink at best.

It seems that Nightwish bars are 150 baht, not the most expensive ones, BabyCool is 170 for example and it can depend on what the girl takes too.

When it comes to prices they do whatever they want (and the girls charge whatever they want to) regardless of the quality of the place, for example Playpen has the shittiest bed in the whole soi I guess, and yet they charge more than others (400 bahts).

[MartinFlevo]

Look at incomes in Korea. I doubt many are paying 10,000. I could be wrong.

It's actually part of their culture. Two Korean guys walk into a Gogo? Two or more? That could easily be jackpot because those guys start "competing" who spend the most.

I know several girls from a Gogo who focus on Koreans only for that reason. Why go LT with a farang for 3 K ex barfine if you can have a Korean who is willing to pay 10 k.

[RakSopheni]

* Minimum amount of ladydrinks required before a barfine (already happening in XS / Pinup I understood).

* Extremely high prices for ST / LT (no incentive to fuck a guy and Koreans pay 10 K without blinking anyway).

Basically XS / Pinup has "destroyed" the market. They pay high salaries and got the cute chicks. All the other gogobars got mediocre ladies at best. Probably 50% of the gogobars are out of business within 5 years and two kind of Gogo's will be left.

1. Upscale gogos like XS / Pinup.

2. Sleazy once like windmill / KINK.

Keep in mind SOME chicks make good money on drinks only. But a LOT do not get the minimum drinks and switch bars all the time.

So what the ladies do who NOT get the drink quota? Probably go to bars or freelance.

So the 8/9/10 lookers are fine and the 5/6/7 (average looking girls) will have a lot of competition (so these prices might stay reasonable).

Thats my 2 cents.

I finally got around to taking a deeper dive into Soi 6 and my takeaway is relevant to your post and the other posts about this drink only crap.

The girls I approach: petite, slim, can have dark skin. Face 6. 5-8. 5. Sexy vibe.

I do not approach girls higher or lower than this in face range, I do not approach tall "model" girls or Chan Chalupa branded fatties and saggies. (Maybe that one time).

I will buy one round of drinks to test the waters. Some girls will feign ignorance that sex is even on offer on Soi 6 and act confused. Usually 3 out of 4 ladies described as above will end up being drink only. I would guess anything 8. 5 above in the face would be almost 100% drink only. Inevitably the girls that will agree to ST will be in the 6. 5-7 face range and ask 1200-1500 +room.

After slogging through 3 rounds or so of "testing the waters" drinks I will generally find a girl to my liking, but this is a lot of money and time wasted. I don't necessarily enjoy talking one more time about where I'm from, how long I'm staying, blah blah.

The girls that I finally do get upstairs often seem strangely inexperienced and expecting vanilla condom only missionary, doggy, cum inside condom sex. This is not how I roll. Sometimes it's hard for me to believe that none of you have initiated these girls into the wonderful world of things like deepthroat and cum in mouth, cum in pussy- but this is what the girls are claiming. It makes me wonder if mongers such as myself are the minority in Pattaya and the main type of punter is content buying rack after rack of shots for random Isaan girls while pretending to enjoy connect 4. I mean did you guys know that we used to have an expectation that these girls would be fucking us? That was the main point of Soi 6.

I see Soi 6 as a backup plan after making the rounds at all the GC's, where for now sex is still the primary draw and reasonably priced. Quality is not stellar, and it does find some work to find an acceptable girl, but there are some hidden gems out there (I'm not going to divulge), and overall the effort expended is less than the Soi 6 gauntlet. These girls suck and fuck everyday and are not expecting boring vanilla type stuff.

If you want sex, ThaiFriendly and GC's are the way to go. Otherwise, I hope you like Connect 4 and competing with Koreans for who can waste the most money on girls that are never going to have sex with you.

[GentileBear]

Glad to see so many seekers of the dimes. Or the 9's and 10's in looks. The gogos like Pinup can have them and their 10 K baht customers. Kink and Windmill. Maybe when I was younger and ran with a wingman I would like it but not now. Thank Buddah for the willing ladies in Pattaya. Some on beachroad, some on Soy 6 that are 7's and still tingle my spine for 1,500 or 1,500 plus 300 tip. I would rather have 5 sessions with average looking ladies over a week than one shot with a 9 in looks. I am willing to admit it might be because I am getting older and just want a no no nonsense fuck - and I don't take Instagram DSLR pictures of the ladies anymore.

[Explorer8939]

Look at incomes in Korea. I doubt many are paying 10,000. I could be wrong.

Some ladies report that some Koreans pay big money for Short Time at gogos, but I haven't heard 10,000 for ST.