Pattaya Reports

[Chan Chalupa]

Oh my.

1. Asked one of the Desire Livestream Girls if they could be Barfined. She did not say Cannot. I guess it means the girl makes the call. No it was not Priew who I asked.

2. Little girl, a few bars down from desire, way Hotter than almost every one on Soi 6. Tannish- you know the drill. Original s.

To my surprise she said 1,900 right off the bat. 400 for room and 1,500 for her. Done deal.

During cross examination I think I know why she Charges 1,500 instead of 2 k. She is a Mommy. Hahaha. No way would I have known just by looking and feeling her up. Weird.

Very Good value.

I was getting discouraged walking up and down looking like an Idiot.

4. PalaceAgogo. Faces and bodies are out of this world compared to Bangkok and other 1st tier Pattaya Agogo s.

What's odd is the girls are way more Friendly. Weird like that.

[Paolo99]

Last trip was 2015. Only good memory was a threesome on Soi 6. Do they still take blokes upstairs for ST?

Yes.

Any new trends

They are pushing for drinks now, they push for the 5 racks of tequila shots (5 * 160 = 800 bahts).

Some bars have "drinks only" girls, which means these girls are ready to entertain you downstairs if you reward them with drinks but they won't go upstairs.

They might accept to be barfined though if you put the price (a lot of drinks plus a lot of money for her), most of these are the prettiest girls of the bar.

or price increases?

Yes, rooms are usually 400 baht now. LDs are around 150,170 baht.

Many girls ask 1.5 K or 2 K, maybe even more and they are not even the most popular girls.

2018 was in BKK- quality was better but the Soi 6 videos keep popping up on my feed and they're influencing me to give it another go.

You can still find good quality girls over there if you spend time and if you're lucky.

[AmericanThief]

Last trip was 2015. Only good memory was a threesome on Soi 6. Do they still take blokes upstairs for ST? Any new trends or price increases?

2018 was in BKK- quality was better but the Soi 6 videos keep popping up on my feed and they're influencing me to give it another go. I need to get out of China for a bit too.

[Explorer8939]

I should mention that Escape in Treetown has nudity after 8 pm.

[Sky Ryder]

4 K for ST with a beer bar girl? Seems that they were really convinced you were a newbie, but we've all been through these kind of girls, asking too much and not wanting to negotiate at all.

I am sure they could "smell" new guy on me, but it take long for them to adopt an attitude when I respectfully tried to negotiate a more reasonable price. At that point I probably would have said no if they said they would go for free. Okay maybe not, but I was no longer interested. Funny thing it was a two different bars, on different streets so it wasn't like they could see me moving from bar to bar. It just felt like they were pissed at not having any customers. Too many options to deal with some (albeit it pretty) MILF with an attitude.

[CaliGuy33]

I just left Pattaya, on my first visit and stayed 8 days at the Empress, I was mostly very pleased with the hotel and would stay there again with not a problem. The staff was very helpful. I tipped the housekeeper 40 baht a day and she gave me extra towels and waters and was very responsive to any other request I had. The location is excellent if you like the beach. I also used Nam for the transfer and everything went perfect with one exception. They originally assigned Dream to pick me up and her photo was pleasant. Just prior to my flight I was told that they had substituted Nikky to pick me up. Nikky was efficient, professional, and got to the hotel in good time and with not any fuss. Let's just say, I was not interested in chatting her up AT ALL, which was fine since she had very limited English skills. Not her fault she is not attractive, but it was a bummer and I felt bad because I know she saw the disappointment in my eyes when I met her. I will use Nam's again with no hesitation. BTW, about 10 meters up Soi 12, (away from the beach) is a taxi stand. I used the guy a couple of times as he was recommended by the hotel staff and he also took me to the airport today for the flight back. If you use him tell him the guy that gave him a unopened bottle of Absolute recommended him. He also took me to Camel Toe twice, more about that later.

2 - can anyone recommend a massage place near the Empress?

That is really hard to do, since there are so many and the choices are immense. I will give you two that I used. I went to O Ring on Beach Road (There are two locations side by side). It is a legit place and will not even do HJ. The girl I picked told me that before I got the massage in a quiet voice. She suggested I get a foot massage which I did. Turns out you can "bar fine" the massage girls for $400 baht a day. Of course the expectation is they are going to make some money with you, but the ladies are under NO obligation to say yes to going out at all.

The girl I chose was probably close to 40 if not over, but was well preserved. I paid the $400 B and told her I wanted a 2 hour oil massage and then we would decide what else to do. She gave me a very nice relaxing massage and enjoyed my romantic overtures. Let's just say that she told me she had not been laid in almost a year and I believe it from the reaction. It was a wonderful full evening of pleasure and we went to eat after the sex. I gave her $1500 B, she had never asked for anything, and I felt like it was very fair. I would have liked to see her again, but she went back home for a 2 week stay, I forgot to get her Line ID. The other place I went was just across from the Subway shop, on the corner of 2nd Rd. And Soi 13, which I think is Soi LK, the name is Aree Massage. Same kind of thing, except they will do HJ, but nothing more unless you take them outside. Listen, I get that these are not 22 yr old stunners, but for me there is something about a attractive massage lady and good sex. They know how to touch you in a way that makes it more intimate in my experience, and to be honest when they are face down in a pillow and a cute ass in the air, I find I am unconcerned about how big are their tits, and if they look 19 years old, but that is just me. Again, I found one that I like her look and just got a foot massage, to get a feel for the vibe and then offered to buy them out of the shop for the day. I did this twice at Aree, and went to eat with both ladies first then took them to the Empress. It was fun both times.

3 - does Camel Toe have onsite rooms or not. Reports aren't clear?

I am not sure about anything before the last week, but I was there three times last week and a full bore session twice in a private room about 40 feet from the bar. One was a with a gal that had only been there from 2 days, and I was her first client for full service. I really wasn't all that interested at first, and she never gave me the " I really need to help" stuff, but she was working real hard to get me to take her to the room, I think to save face more than anything. She uses the name Focus and was right off the farm it seemed and didn't know much about seduction and a few of the other more experienced gals did try to poach me off her once she got me going. She didn't know she needed to bring her own KY and was so tight I wasn't sure it was going to happen, but nature has a way or working things out. I also enjoyed Patty. Lady drinks are $150, FS is $1000 B, the room is $400 B, I think they can do HJ's in a curtained off area and blow jobs as well if it is busy, but they did have one room with a bed and shower. They market themselves as having a lot of MILFs and it is true, but there are a few of the ladies that carry it well and they like to have fun. They are also understanding if you want to trade for a different girl. The girls greet each new guest on a rotation basis, but no problem to ask for a different lady.

4 - Is Cat Flaps worth a look?

I didn't go there, but I did go to MClub, and I really liked it. There are 2 or 3 really pretty ladies that work there and it is a bit more upscale. Take a look at their IG account and I saw most of the ladies in the photos there at some point in my two visits. One thing I will say, the girl with the huge tits in the manager and I don't know if she is willing to play or not, but I suspect that most of the rest are up for everything. I didn't run into "only for drinks" gals in either of these clubs. I would go back to MClub again as well.

I did not go into any go gos for more than one drink as they are not my jam. I did chat up two really pretty late 20's gals at different beer bars and they were complaining about how slow business was and then when I asked to leave for what I knew to be a reasonable offer, they both said ST was at least $4 K plus bar fine. I told I knew better but they would not budge. I finally asked if business was so bad and there are so many ladies willing to go for less why are you being so stubborn. I got some version of "that is my price", I said fine, you can sit right in the that chair and watch me walk away, but at this moment your $4 K ass is making you exactly $0 and your attitude is not helping.

I went to Korandos one afternoon early and it was DOA but two really hot girls, but I wasn't in the mood. I also went to Maggie Mays and again had just finished a session, so was just window shopping, but there were some nice offerings as well.

At least one evening take a stroll down Beach Rd. There are a lot of VERY average girls, and a couple of real hot LB's. The first question I asked any Beach Rd gal was if she was female at birth, and none of them pushed back or seemed put off. I suspect they get asked a lot. The first night I found one that looked like a school teacher, but was really built well and was wearing a nice fitting skirt and crop top with her glasses. $1000 B later she was naked in my bed and teaching me some new tricks. I made it a habit to walk down Beach Rd. Every night just to see what was available, but usually I was tapped out by then.

BTW, there are two massage shops on Soi 12 as you are walking away from the hotel and they each have at least one gal I wish I had asked to come the hotel, I was always afraid I would find something better, but you know how that goes.

I hope this helps and now I don't have to do a field report! HA Ha.

P.S., I apologize for any grammatical or spelling errors, I am too lazy to edit this thing.

Best,

Sky.

I've never bar fined women from legit massage shops. Can you explain more how to go about it. I mean do you ask up front for a girl that can be bar fined before getting a foot massage? Is the 400 baht the normal bar fine price? Seems like a sweet deal.

[CaliGuy33]

LOL. I understand perfectly. After School days are special. She knows not to change into regular street cloths until we have finished our homework.

You dirty dog LOL.

Of course I see the attractive uni gals wearing the uniforms everywhere in BKK, but never been lucky enough to land one.

[Chan Chalupa]

2023 winner of the year in BBB category goes to.

PinUps. Big bad boob jobs galore, never seen anything like it.

Where the Hot Girls at Palace go.

Pacha. Momma was so happy a girl got Barfined she was patting every girl on the Head with the 2,000 baht fee.

Pacha. Just as I was leaving someone rang the Bell. I think it saved the night. God it was empty.

Tantra. Al I could think was how much were they losing on a Saturday night?

Fahrenheit. Where I was sat I could see Bodies but not Heads on many girls. Hahaha.

[Paolo99]

Am looking for massage with options to start the day. Am hoping I can manage more than one a day on a couple of days. Managed 3 in a day once in Moscow but that did take a lot of prep. Am confident no issues finishing as have been chained up on a leash for too long.

For this the best bet is on soi Buakhao, adjacent sois off soi Buakhao around soi Diana, soi Honey and a few others around there. In other places, although probably possible in many places, nothing is sure, so you'll have to ask at each places first.

[Paolo99]

I asked to leave for what I knew to be a reasonable offer, they both said ST was at least $4 K plus bar fine. I told I knew better but they would not budge. I finally asked if business was so bad and there are so many ladies willing to go for less why are you being so stubborn. I got some version of "that is my price", I said fine, you can sit right in the that chair and watch me walk away, but at this moment your $4 K ass is making you exactly $0 and your attitude is not helping..

4 K for ST with a beer bar girl? Seems that they were really convinced you were a newbie, but we've all been through these kind of girls, asking too much and not wanting to negotiate at all.

[Paolo99]

Do many of the Agogo girls have an open back door policy?

I guess some of them would accept but you have to be clear with them before barfining them, they might request extra money too.

In other places, nothing is guaranteed too, it's not only in the gogos.

[Sky Ryder]

Hi all,



I think I will stay at the Empress and Nams for the transfer.




Thanks again for all the info and bring it on!

I just left Pattaya, on my first visit and stayed 8 days at the Empress, I was mostly very pleased with the hotel and would stay there again with not a problem. The staff was very helpful. I tipped the housekeeper 40 baht a day and she gave me extra towels and waters and was very responsive to any other request I had. The location is excellent if you like the beach. I also used Nam for the transfer and everything went perfect with one exception. They originally assigned Dream to pick me up and her photo was pleasant. Just prior to my flight I was told that they had substituted Nikky to pick me up. Nikky was efficient, professional, and got to the hotel in good time and with not any fuss. Let's just say, I was not interested in chatting her up AT ALL, which was fine since she had very limited English skills. Not her fault she is not attractive, but it was a bummer and I felt bad because I know she saw the disappointment in my eyes when I met her. I will use Nam's again with no hesitation. BTW, about 10 meters up Soi 12, (away from the beach) is a taxi stand. I used the guy a couple of times as he was recommended by the hotel staff and he also took me to the airport today for the flight back. If you use him tell him the guy that gave him a unopened bottle of Absolute recommended him. He also took me to Camel Toe twice, more about that later.

2 - can anyone recommend a massage place near the Empress?

That is really hard to do, since there are so many and the choices are immense. I will give you two that I used. I went to O Ring on Beach Road (There are two locations side by side). It is a legit place and will not even do HJ. The girl I picked told me that before I got the massage in a quiet voice. She suggested I get a foot massage which I did. Turns out you can "bar fine" the massage girls for $400 baht a day. Of course the expectation is they are going to make some money with you, but the ladies are under NO obligation to say yes to going out at all.

The girl I chose was probably close to 40 if not over, but was well preserved. I paid the $400 B and told her I wanted a 2 hour oil massage and then we would decide what else to do. She gave me a very nice relaxing massage and enjoyed my romantic overtures. Let's just say that she told me she had not been laid in almost a year and I believe it from the reaction. It was a wonderful full evening of pleasure and we went to eat after the sex. I gave her $1500 B, she had never asked for anything, and I felt like it was very fair. I would have liked to see her again, but she went back home for a 2 week stay, I forgot to get her Line ID. The other place I went was just across from the Subway shop, on the corner of 2nd Rd. And Soi 13, which I think is Soi LK, the name is Aree Massage. Same kind of thing, except they will do HJ, but nothing more unless you take them outside. Listen, I get that these are not 22 yr old stunners, but for me there is something about a attractive massage lady and good sex. They know how to touch you in a way that makes it more intimate in my experience, and to be honest when they are face down in a pillow and a cute ass in the air, I find I am unconcerned about how big are their tits, and if they look 19 years old, but that is just me. Again, I found one that I like her look and just got a foot massage, to get a feel for the vibe and then offered to buy them out of the shop for the day. I did this twice at Aree, and went to eat with both ladies first then took them to the Empress. It was fun both times.

3 - does Camel Toe have onsite rooms or not. Reports aren't clear?

I am not sure about anything before the last week, but I was there three times last week and a full bore session twice in a private room about 40 feet from the bar. One was a with a gal that had only been there from 2 days, and I was her first client for full service. I really wasn't all that interested at first, and she never gave me the " I really need to help" stuff, but she was working real hard to get me to take her to the room, I think to save face more than anything. She uses the name Focus and was right off the farm it seemed and didn't know much about seduction and a few of the other more experienced gals did try to poach me off her once she got me going. She didn't know she needed to bring her own KY and was so tight I wasn't sure it was going to happen, but nature has a way or working things out. I also enjoyed Patty. Lady drinks are $150, FS is $1000 B, the room is $400 B, I think they can do HJ's in a curtained off area and blow jobs as well if it is busy, but they did have one room with a bed and shower. They market themselves as having a lot of MILFs and it is true, but there are a few of the ladies that carry it well and they like to have fun. They are also understanding if you want to trade for a different girl. The girls greet each new guest on a rotation basis, but no problem to ask for a different lady.

4 - Is Cat Flaps worth a look?

I didn't go there, but I did go to MClub, and I really liked it. There are 2 or 3 really pretty ladies that work there and it is a bit more upscale. Take a look at their IG account and I saw most of the ladies in the photos there at some point in my two visits. One thing I will say, the girl with the huge tits in the manager and I don't know if she is willing to play or not, but I suspect that most of the rest are up for everything. I didn't run into "only for drinks" gals in either of these clubs. I would go back to MClub again as well.

I did not go into any go gos for more than one drink as they are not my jam. I did chat up two really pretty late 20's gals at different beer bars and they were complaining about how slow business was and then when I asked to leave for what I knew to be a reasonable offer, they both said ST was at least $4 K plus bar fine. I told I knew better but they would not budge. I finally asked if business was so bad and there are so many ladies willing to go for less why are you being so stubborn. I got some version of "that is my price", I said fine, you can sit right in the that chair and watch me walk away, but at this moment your $4 K ass is making you exactly $0 and your attitude is not helping.

I went to Korandos one afternoon early and it was DOA but two really hot girls, but I wasn't in the mood. I also went to Maggie Mays and again had just finished a session, so was just window shopping, but there were some nice offerings as well.

At least one evening take a stroll down Beach Rd. There are a lot of VERY average girls, and a couple of real hot LB's. The first question I asked any Beach Rd gal was if she was female at birth, and none of them pushed back or seemed put off. I suspect they get asked a lot. The first night I found one that looked like a school teacher, but was really built well and was wearing a nice fitting skirt and crop top with her glasses. $1000 B later she was naked in my bed and teaching me some new tricks. I made it a habit to walk down Beach Rd. Every night just to see what was available, but usually I was tapped out by then.

BTW, there are two massage shops on Soi 12 as you are walking away from the hotel and they each have at least one gal I wish I had asked to come the hotel, I was always afraid I would find something better, but you know how that goes.

I hope this helps and now I don't have to do a field report! HA Ha.

P.S., I apologize for any grammatical or spelling errors, I am too lazy to edit this thing.

Best,

Sky.

[Explorer8939]

One mortal SIN is paying girls Fee in full before even getting Buck Nekkid.

Don't do it Homie.

You cannot put the Stick before the Carrot. You just can't.

Carriage before the horse, but your point is well taken.

[CaptainSalami]

He mentioned appreciation for 3 posters.

Those 3 like Non-expebsive girls. Hahaha. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Hahaha.

I appreciate all who have posted quality information. Value for money is not lost on me but I do prefer naughty over nice and it can be hard to find a naughty diamond IMHO.

[CaptainSalami]

Surprisingly more than you would expect in Thailand. Between my buddy and me we have done this with a wide range on non-P4P girls.

Airport security girl.

Government employee.

Accountant for private company.

Another accountant from family owned business.

Worker at fancy mall spa (almost exclusively women customers).

Isaan hotel housekeeper.

Self employed baker.

All of the above stayed with either me or my buddy for 10 to 30 days. My buddy and I got severely limited in available time by a nurse and by a school teacher. Neither could spend more than a very few days away from work. I'm currently working toward an Isaan traveling market business owner, but that isn't going well because she doesn't trust her family to run the business in her absence.

A teacher would be a good option.