Bangkok Reports

[Werqweq]

I guess our eyes must work differently, but the girls from fiwfans to my eyes are significantly better looking than the girls you see in Go-Go bars. And yes 1500 get you a significantly better looking girl then what you see in butterflies or billboard and if you're willing to spend 2500 and up you get an auto show quality pretty. White skin, no baby, nice body, etc. And the telegram groups were the punters post their reviews are indeed very revealing as they include more pictures.

Would you mind sharing, here or privately, those telegram groups?

[EihTooms]

I guess our eyes must work differently, but the girls from fiwfans to my eyes are significantly better looking than the girls you see in Go-Go bars. And yes 1500 get you a significantly better looking girl then what you see in butterflies or billboard and if you're willing to spend 2500 and up you get an auto show quality pretty. White skin, no baby, nice body, etc. And the telegram groups were the punters post their reviews are indeed very revealing as they include more pictures.

In contrast to you I find it significantly more convenient to be able to peruse on my phone, read reports, and then head out to a hotel pretty much anytime during the day and have a session. One doesn't have to wait for the bars to open, when can even partake at 10:00 am And they are scattered all over the city so if you happen to be in Thonburi, Bob's your Uncle. Additionally, I don't find the Nana area a particularly appealing place to go these days. Well I do wander down there for Middle Eastern food occasionally walking down the street at present is not a very appealing experience.

But it's not for you as you're going to find very few girls who are willing to take it "fresh" and yes the majority of local punters are very interested in maintaining their sexual health so bareback full sex for the most part is a No-No. I for one and more than happy with this, in fact I think it's a wonderful thing. BBBJCIM is quite possible and I would say the majority of the girls are up for that.

I have not found the Go-Go's appealing since the late '00's and that was a real stretch then. I did enjoy Cowboy quite a bit before the Arab bought Midnight which was in about 04 I think.

No, I am sure our eyes work very much the same. I can tell the difference between the level of beauty in the girls online, in bars and, frankly, everywhere on the planet free or paid who are likely to engage in no hassle BBFS+CIP and those who will not and need not.

There is nothing special about Billboard vs Fiwfans in that regard. The best lookers everywhere provide Real Sex by my definition a lot less often and much later in the game than the merely above average lookers. And the above average lookers provide it less often and later in the game than the desperate, seriously looks-challenged girls. My observation and experience is that dynamic exists everywhere, free or for money, same as it did in highschool for all of us.

It is my penis that might not work the same as yours and the other expats you know who are satisfied with Covered FS. LOL. Mine says NO loud and clear to any version of covered sex.

On the only other acceptable option for me, do you know if your Auto Show Pretty Fiwfans girl would provide a true BBBJ+CIM, no dodging and no Hand Job conversion at the finish, with some level of skill and reliable success in a first session? If not and assuming there is no way Real Sex / BBFS+CIP with her is on the table at any price, then whatever research time and money I would devote to scoring such a beauty would be a total waste for me. If I spent 2 hours with her for only 100 baht it would be a waste of 100 baht in my case. Unless she has some really charming stories and funny jokes to tell over dinner.

[MakeItOrBreak]

I recently had a quite of wait for my flight coming from outside Bangkok to BKK, so I dumped my bag in storage for 150 THB at the airport. After checking options close by I decided on Lovely Spa in Minburi. I knew how traffic is midday and toward school closure I would have taken a motorbike taxi. Not sure however where to find one in BKK but maybe head to Novotel or something and order them to pick there.

Fairly small place and six ladies with primarily 6-7 looks but overall young. It will definitely help if you speak some Thai since there wasn't much English. Think cost was around 2800 THB but had to check beforehand if sex was on the table. Not sure if this is common? Either way service level was good even if massage is a bit piano so will consider going again. The driver back decided to not take the paid express and despite heavy traffic it went smoothly. But I would like to ask is there any other options worthwhile exploring around Suvarnabhumi? I will have a few more rounds at the airport this year.

[Venturi34]

I guess our eyes must work differently, but the girls from fiwfans to my eyes are significantly better looking than the girls you see in Go-Go bars. And yes 1500 get you a significantly better looking girl then what you see in butterflies or billboard and if you're willing to spend 2500 and up you get an auto show quality pretty. White skin, no baby, nice body, etc. And the telegram groups were the punters post their reviews are indeed very revealing as they include more pictures.

I do not live in Thailand but I have used FWIFANS / Sideline and gone to the GoGos quite a bit. So pro to Fwifans is like you said it's cheaper but their appearance in real life compared to the photos is a total crapshoot. It varies from being slightly worse looking than their photos to almost a completely different person. Some agencies are worse than others when it comes to this. Also waiting for Grab / Bolt is a little annoying sometimes to get out to some of these locations.

GoGos have the pro of seeing the girls in person and there is large selection to choose from immediately but then you have to pay the additional cost. I used to try out Fwifans in the daytime and then visit the GoGos at night.

Random guess but is the 2500 white skinned girl you saw named Vodka?

[Goatscrot]

By stark contrast, I only have personal experience of getting exactly nowhere after 3-4 hours' research for such an experience on Fiwfans. And, for the purported 1500 baht "going rate" on that site, I would even have been willing to accept a couple of rungs down from the best looking Nana Plaza gogo bargirls I have enjoyed that with on the first session. I suspect I would have to devote several months research and much trial and error waste of time and money to score a real looker on Fiwfans willing to do BBFS+CIP with me for any amount of money. Assuming I don't get blackballed and banned from the site for merely asking. LOL

I guess our eyes must work differently, but the girls from fiwfans to my eyes are significantly better looking than the girls you see in Go-Go bars. And yes 1500 get you a significantly better looking girl then what you see in butterflies or billboard and if you're willing to spend 2500 and up you get an auto show quality pretty. White skin, no baby, nice body, etc. And the telegram groups were the punters post their reviews are indeed very revealing as they include more pictures.

In contrast to you I find it significantly more convenient to be able to peruse on my phone, read reports, and then head out to a hotel pretty much anytime during the day and have a session. One doesn't have to wait for the bars to open, when can even partake at 10:00 am And they are scattered all over the city so if you happen to be in Thonburi, Bob's your Uncle. Additionally, I don't find the Nana area a particularly appealing place to go these days. Well I do wander down there for Middle Eastern food occasionally walking down the street at present is not a very appealing experience.

But it's not for you as you're going to find very few girls who are willing to take it "fresh" and yes the majority of local punters are very interested in maintaining their sexual health so bareback full sex for the most part is a No-No. I for one and more than happy with this, in fact I think it's a wonderful thing. BBBJCIM is quite possible and I would say the majority of the girls are up for that.

I have not found the Go-Go's appealing since the late '00's and that was a real stretch then. I did enjoy Cowboy quite a bit before the Arab bought Midnight which was in about 04 I think.

[Goatscrot]

That's the beauty about actually living in Thailand. Anyone living in Thailand never has to pay a barfine. You get the girls to come over on their days off, before or after work. Always skip the expensive middleman.

Bottom line really is how much does a person feel comfortable spending on girls and drinks each night. Some may feel 2500 baht is the limit for a nights fun other may say 20,000 baht. I'm currently living in Japan and pay around 3000 baht per 15 minutes for a young slim extremely pretty top end pale skinned car show girl. My budget is no different than Thailand I just see way fewer girls.

Jealous actually. I'd love to be living in Japan. When I was in my mid thirties 20 odd years ago and moved to Thailand, it really ticked all the boxes. Now that I'm in my late 50's Japan has much more appeal. Four seasons, I can even ski in the winter, unbelievable food quality I almost say the best in the world, a wonderful transportation system, it's clean, and everything works. It's first world. Yes there are drawbacks, but I am considering getting an akiya and spending a few months there a year. Absolutely love the Kansai area. And of course some of the women are just stunning and the level of sophistication is better.

[Chan Chalupa]

That's the beauty about actually living in Thailand. Anyone living in Thailand never has to pay a barfine. You get the girls to come over on their days off, before or after work. Always skip the expensive middleman.

Bottom line really is how much does a person feel comfortable spending on girls and drinks each night. Some may feel 2500 baht is the limit for a nights fun other may say 20,000 baht. I'm currently living in Japan and pay around 3000 baht per 15 minutes for a young slim extremely pretty top end pale skinned car show girl. My budget is no different than Thailand I just see way fewer girls.

Any Ayu Sakurai sightings?

[Gloryjack]

Where can I get my cock and inner thigh area shaved in Bangkok? Am in Sukhumvit area. Leads would be welcome.

[EihTooms]

No I think you are on point here. What you are doing is very efficient and the gogos are highly inefficient for getting pussy. I just enjoy the experience. It used to be I longed after the dating type experience and so Seeking Arrangement was my fave method. But now that I've had a home GF for going on two years I long for the "club experience" and what I call the girl buffet. No question I can go to an oily and get something quick. And that has its place too. It's wonderful to have a BJ bar like 7-heaven. That's another great format. I just love checking out the girls and the camel toe and spike heels and knowing I can have any one I want! Thats why I love Thai and Russian gogos and the Boates of So Paulo. The wonderful thing is there are like a ton of formats for us to choose. And we get to pick! Heavenly.

Oh, I think gogo bars are very efficient for finding hot to trot little minxes who might very well agree to or decide on their own to move to a BBFS+Cum-In-Pussy Real Sex Experience if she understands that's what it will take to make you a happy customer. Same as your Butterflies girl did for you.

By stark contrast, I only have personal experience of getting exactly nowhere after 3-4 hours' research for such an experience on Fiwfans. And, for the purported 1500 baht "going rate" on that site, I would even have been willing to accept a couple of rungs down from the best looking Nana Plaza gogo bargirls I have enjoyed that with on the first session. I suspect I would have to devote several months research and much trial and error waste of time and money to score a real looker on Fiwfans willing to do BBFS+CIP with me for any amount of money. Assuming I don't get blackballed and banned from the site for merely asking. LOL.

I have lived here for almost 12 years and it is much, much easier for me to get an upfront agreement for no hurry, no hassle DFK, BBBJ and a BBFS+CIP finish with an above average looking young Thai girl in a first session at a gogo bar than in any other venue or P4 P option I have tried.

That includes online, in-bar freelancers, street girls, massage shops and so-called PSE Happy Ending Shops.

I understand many lucky punters are fine with Covered FS. But all factors considered, in terms of time and money expenditure, if my definition of Real Sex above is the kind of "pussy" one wants in a first session with an above average or better looking young Thai girl, nothing is more efficient for getting it in Bkk than a night of barhopping and, yes, sometimes a bit of mamasan-assisted screening at the gogo bars, imo.

[Gloryjack]

Met a hot freelancer at nana; 1 k St; claimed to be 27 but was probably 32 . Total GFE. Surprisingly spoke decent English. She works in quality control during the day and drives a bmw. Which was surprising. Anyways we did our thing; while leaving I gave her an extra 200 baht as tip: she as happy. She also offered to show me around Bangkok all day tomorrow but I have plans so told her I will take her for dinner at a nice place. She was real sweet but should I be perturbed by the fact that she was ok to show me around? She also mentioned her younger brother is a cop so if am in any trouble I can call her. What do you say guys? Considering her younger bro is a cop, am.

I at risk of being scammed? I did take her out for dinner after I banged her and she was very sweet. No red flags. Also told her am in Bangkok for one night only.

[LR123]

This all depends on what you're doing. Are you getting girls every day or even multiple girls a day? Are you doing high end restaurants? Are you drinking a lot? Are you going to get conned into buying lady drinks at gogos? Are you trying to BF high end girls or low. Are you going to stay at a high end hotel?

You can go to an MP and pay 2000-2500 baht for 2 hours of time. You can get a streetwalker for ST or LT for a variety of prices. You can go to high end clubs or escorts and pay much much more.

Thanks GrapeMan. Appreciate the feedback. Sounds like a few hundred USD a day will be plenty!

[Maddy69]

Dear fellas,

Going with my girlfriend to Bangkok this winter and looking for recommendations for some nice and experience as a couple.

My better half is quite open minded and up for everything (yes, quite happy about it) so my task is to plan a sexy trip.

Looking for 3-4 different versions what to try together: Getting or taking an escort to our hotel room (or 2, that was her idea), soaping massage, "normal" happy ending massage and so on. What else would you think of?

Besides of Nana, Cowboy, which places would you recommend?

As we are both beginning of 30 and attractive so we like young, model-type girls beginning of 20's. The price doesn't play a big role, I just want to get us unforgettable memories.

So places can be high-end (maybe Poseidon? It has to be without any time pressure (no BJ bar or ST booking haha) and more in nice environment (I saw places like Termae but I think that one would not be the best place for her in terms of spirit.

Usually we are more into (eastern-) European girls (I guess in BKK you need to hunt for that in normal clubs as usual) but Thai could also be sexy.

Looking forward for your answers.

[Banana Boi]

The problems and the costs are exactly why most of us residents avoid GoGos at all costs.

That's the beauty about actually living in Thailand. Anyone living in Thailand never has to pay a barfine. You get the girls to come over on their days off, before or after work. Always skip the expensive middleman.

Bottom line really is how much does a person feel comfortable spending on girls and drinks each night. Some may feel 2500 baht is the limit for a nights fun other may say 20,000 baht. I'm currently living in Japan and pay around 3000 baht per 15 minutes for a young slim extremely pretty top end pale skinned car show girl. My budget is no different than Thailand I just see way fewer girls.

[Steve 9696]

Here's full day one report out. Best day I suppose tho we had several good days.

Chris and I landed in the afternoon and planned to hit it hard. Chris is kinda a single shot, single venue kinda guy, but I was able to convince him to live on the edge! .

We figured let's go BJ bar for a day gig to release the tension. Then hit the gogos at night. The vibe I got from the forum is that Nana is better than Cowboy (and I now agree) so we planned that for the night venue. But since Chris's hotel was near Cowboy we figured we'the just get the lay of the land and wandered down Soi cowboy even tho most things were closed.

Happened upon a great Irish pub as you exit Cowboy at the far end — to the left and across the street. Large place called Gritty McDuffs or some such. Zillion Brit's and Aussies watching rugby. Played some pool upstairs and enjoyed a couple pints and some nachos and satay that was quite tasty. Recommend.

After that, decided to start slow with a veggie massage as we waited for things to open. Found a place that looked legit and had good reviews. 300 baht ($10) for an hour Thai massage. Love that! Very solid job by both ladies. We repeated the following day. Now, bodies all relaxed, we went to get our dicks relaxed.

We decided to check out Haven first because one of the board members liked it. But yikes. I guess we roll differently. Some 4-5's out front and dark and dingy inside with a random toddler roaming about. No thanks.

Went to 7-Heaven, not too far a walk away, where again a board member recommended (thanks guys!) where it's tablet format. They show you available girls on the iPad and they are pretty close to pics it turns out. Pricing is 1300 for BBBJ w / CIM standard and they have a few options — pretty sure Google maps pics shows price list but it's in Chinese! Funniest is there is small upcharge for COB and COF but CIM is free. Wtf? There is a note on the price list that says 40 minute time limit and one shot. Ok no problem.

I picked a real cutie who seemed in her twenties and was maybe just a bit thick but not problematically so. Beautiful face and lips and what great attentive service. Makes you feel like a king. The rooms are nice and clean and there is a mat bed on the floor. Doesn't seem at all dirty or dicey like say Kasalong. Nice place and worth the 500 baht premium over Lolita's or Kasalong for both facilities and girls, no contest.

Attentive dick wash in the sink and then the BJ was on. On my back for most of it and nice technique. She had nice firm tits I could access from time to time. When it took a long time to finish, we moved to me standing and her on her knees looking up submissively. Hands in her hair and a bit of direction (I like it slow) plenty of BLS and that did the trick. Rewarded her with some nice shots her mouth. Ahhhh, one down.

Kicked around a bit and eventually ended up at Nana plaza — only 5 min walk from my hotel. Sat at the big center bar and had a Jack and coke and a beer just shooting the shit and marveling at how great it is to be back. We got there at 7:59 and the barmaid was nice enough to give us the happy hour prices that expired at 8. There was a girl at the table across the aisle, outside Bunny, making strong eye contact as me and Chris drank. She was hot and had on cat ears (love that!) so we filed her for future reference.

Can't really remember where but I think we poked our heads in a few spots before deciding to hit the well recommended Billboard on the third level. Wow. It was hopping. The waitress seated us "pool side" if you will. There is a big Jacuzzi tub with foam in it and maybe ten girls doing the Bangkok shuffle on the platform adjacent to it and in the suds in the tub itself. Pretty good mix of fake tits and naturals and all pretty girls.

We spent quite some time marveling at this and just enjoying the vibe and drinking more. I will def say Billboard is very fair — no extra drink charges and not continuously pushing girls and girl drinks on you. If it's your thing you can prob just have a drink or two and ogle hotties and go whack off. Damage would be however many 180 baht ($6) drinks you have. That's it. Of course we had other plans.

This reminds me and I know all you pros know this but for the newbies. All the clubs bring a little wooden cup with your bill in it when you order. You don't need to pay right away. Each time you order they will add to it. But make SURE to check your bill esp after first drink and if you get ladies drinks. The less reputable clubs will try to tack shit on. So beware. Had this happen at Red Dragon but not Billboard, Butterflies, Crazy House, or Bunny.

OK. Back to the action. We really enjoyed Billboard. After a drink or two we moved to the revolving stage. I fucking love this. It's a round stage with slots for 12-15 girls at the perimeter. It rotates so you get to see every girl and about every 20 minutes they change out the lineup.

Night one they were wearing white and the camel toe was on point! You are looking up at all these pussies going by, plus make some eye contact if you want to, or just focus eye level and watch black stripper fuck-me heels of all kinds flood past. It's just epic. I could do this for hours. And did! Hahaha.

We eventually decided to check out Butterflies, as it came well recommended also. Very obvious same format, menu, and prices, but no revolving stage. On later reflection, we noticed almost NO silicone in here and wondered if that is sorta the requirement of management. Younger and more natural than Billboard.

Chris had been telling me he's a one shot guy and shot it at 7-Heaven. But I knew better. It took a bit but suddenly this little 24 year old pixie (4-11,80 lbs?) caught his eye and he was slain. Called her down and it was clear in five minutes that it was on and I needed to find my hottie.

I decided to take a tour of the other stage and see what was on offer. All the girls were doing the Bangkok shuffle except one who was really bringing some energy and sex appeal. She was also a full womans build, not your typical Thai pixie and that appealed since I've been doing the pixies of late (including my Asian GF back home). So I called her down and we all four gathered by the stage.

Both girls the chemistry was great. Chris's girl was twerking on him and simulating doggie fucking in front of a pile of old Chinese and white dudes just a few feet away. And my girl backs into me, puts my hands on her tits (nice firm be-see cups) and was reaching behind her back and stroking my now hard dick. Ok girls. We get the message — you want to fuck. What a coincidence — Us too!

We settle up with the mamasan (see other posts which advise against this — just pay barfine and then pay girl directly after) and the girls go to change. Chris's pixie is dressed just like his old GF used to and he's a goner. Mine is also sexy AF and we are ready to rumble. We walk most of the way together but Chris grabs a cab for him and his girl since he's a bit farther.

In the room my girl and I shower separately and return in towels. We have a truly lovely BFGF time together. I learn she's a 21 year old college student and it shows. But I love that! We make out some and she's an OK kisser but not tops. But I can tell there is passion and that is all that matters.

Despite her club persona she's a shy girl and wants the lights down low but I convince her otherwise. I start with some nice tit sucking and damn she likes that. Def likes her tits sucked in hard and I am enjoying soft hand circles with her amazing tits.

After a bit of that I head down south but teasing along the way. Maybe lick down to her belly button but then back to tits. A little further next time. Licking and sucking that hollow between thigh and pussy and brushing over her clit when changing sides. She is squirming like a girl that's had nothing but college age losers fuck and forget and enjoying every minute.

Eventually I reward her with full soft mouth action and she is wet as a fucking fountain. Lots of good clit licking and sucking keeping a nice rhythm. I slip a finger inside (she's tight!) and start some gspot work while still working clit with tongue. Then slide two fingers in gently vertically and slowly rotate to horizontal and gspot tweaking and she is bucking while her pussy walls keep clamping. It is just one sloppy pussy clamping fiesta!

Honestly I love getting fresh girls off like that so it could be a highlight. But the rest is very good. Very nice BJ and BLS with a nice attentive nature.

At some point I want to move her around to 69 and this is where you can see she is so new to this. Most girls know the universal gesture and soft body leading that swings her to 69. But she is not sure what I want. She kinda pivots into a reverse Cowgirl sumata very awkwardly and realizes this can't be right. We both laugh hard and so we reposition her till she's in 69 and have a great time.

After that the fucking is epic. Damn. Can't remember it all. But we do the Steve forever (clear she hasn't done this before). Several times I lean in and we make out urgently like new lovers do. Finally with a foot on the bed for extra leverage I pound out an earthshaking shot in the condom. Ah. Shot two is always a labor of love but amazing when you get it.

After some nice cuddles, she can't stay because she has a field trip in the morning. (And of course I'the booked ST). Gentleman that I am, I say I will walk her back to Nana. Who does this! I do.

Back at Nana I see her off to Butterflies with a kiss. And as I turn to go home I think. Well, I don't have a third shot but a little camel toe never hurt anyone! And there is a camel toe parade going on right now two floors up! Plus I can do some research for the forum, dedicated poster that I am.

So off I go to billboard. Of course it's amazing and I enjoy a drink there. But I feel dedication to the forum and decide I should have a beer a couple other places and report out.

First up is Angelwitch. Def a heavy rock vibe and about ten girls on stage. There are a couple doable ones but I clearly see why Billboard is a fave.

Next up is Bunny where all my best intentions go to hell in a hand basket. The greeter seats me at the first table and before long I am getting the death stare from a very slim hottie in the closest position. Shortly I notice cat ears girl from earlier at the far end of the stage and get the serious doe eyes. Damn. She's hot and seductive. A dangerous combo!

Both girls come join me and I am in a nice Steve sandwich. I am not really in the market tho and particularly not for two. So when the Mamasan comes and asks if I will buy both a drink I think for a sec but then say "no thanks". You might think this is offputting but it's just the opposite. Instead both girls redouble their efforts!

The tiny pixie girl on my right starts massaging my shoulders and back and it's very nice. Not to be out done, cat girl starts massaging my dick! In full view of everyone. I'm not shy so I let her keep on and before long I have a full fledged boner. She's impressed and now with both hands she is pressing my shorts flat to show my full glory and showing her friend how long and thick my dick is. OMG! It's so naughty it's just great. King of the fucking world.

Ok. Fuck. How can I not take this minx! So with apologies to her friend, I bar fine cat girl and we are off (she says later her friend was really sad and wanted me to take her — oh well. I've only got one dick. Sorry.).

In the never a dull moment category, as I give the mamasan the bar fine, she points out that this is not Thai currency! It's from another Asian country. LOL. Not to be deterred, they assign the stocky barmaid to escort me to the ATM. It's one of those life experiences when she marches me past security and then goes into the busy street and stops traffic both ways so I can get to the ATM across the street. Thai service rules!

Having settled up, we head to the room where we have a great time. Not quite the same college girl newness passion as the first girl but really quality BJ and sex. I'm prob 8 or so drinks in so can't remember fuck all at this point except that it's perilously hard to finish me.

At some point maybe 40 minutes in I take off the condom to maybe finish by mouth. She does some great BJ but she is determined to finish me so she mounts up bareback! Wow! Super nice in cowgirl and the Steve but no dice. Not even bareback. We try every trick in the book including her BLS and me jacking. Or me jacking and her mouth open and tongue tapping a bit and maybe I slide it in for a few pumps. I mean all amazing stuff but no dice.

Just goes to show these girls are not all hardcore because when I finally pack it in she is so disappointed. I owe her 3000 baht for her part and she is saying she doesn't deserve it all because I didn't cum! Fuck she worked hard. Not her fault, so I gave her the full amount and sent her on her way (not walking back a second time! What a nice girl. Two for two.

And that is the end of day one. Yep. Just one day. Bangkok rules!

[Chan Chalupa]

The problems and the costs are exactly why most of us residents avoid GoGos at all costs. There are exceptions, but the majority will frequent certain oily parlors and a lot of us are quite heavily into the online scene. I totally understand why tourists don't want to spend the time working fiwfans. It takes a lot of time and a lot of research, speaking Thai is a big help, but yesterday I had a gal in a hotel less than 10 minutes from my house for 1500 baht, one shot l, one hour, and I'll tell you she looks every bit as good if not better than any of the girls you would see at Billboard or Butterflies. And tomorrow I'm looking at an auto show quality pretty for 2,500 for an hour. And this is white skin, amazing figure, no baby, and will absolutely blow the doors off anything in Nana plaza.

But hey, I totally get wanting to go to a gogo bar and have a good time, It's such a shadow of its former self, as is thermae, that me and my mates pretty much shun it. And don't get me wrong, we like to go to bars, but we like to go to bars where we can talk have a nice craft beer, or a nice whiskey, and some decent food. And if you add a fiwfans girl on to that still probably spending less than 2,500 Baht for the whole evening. It's a whole different and much better ball game when you live here.

Actually 2,500 for a car model does seem fair. Remember if she is a 5,000 girl at LAbelle or somewhere equivalent. Guess how much is her cut.

Voila. 2,500.