American Politics

[EihTooms]

Hey Tooms, you need to subscribe to the New York Times like the Marquis and I do, so you can read all the dirt on Biden.

I would no more contribute money to typically pro-Repub Mainstream Media than to outright direct Repub Media like Fux News, Newsmax and Breitbart. LOL.

Maybe we can get Marquis to copy and paste this NYT article that somehow got past its pro-Repub panel of editors. Or, like most MSM, they are simply imparting warnings and pointers to help their Repub darlings improve their game. I suppose you can copy and paste it too.

Trump's Electoral College Edge Seems To Be Fading

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/11/u...rump-2024.html

[EihTooms]

My comments about Volcker, Miller and Powell were tongue in cheek. In fact I believe the Volcker led Fed did a good job. It slayed the inflation beast. You however are stone cold serious, praising Volcker for a job well done, when the Fed caused unemployment to increase with tight monetary policy. While at the same time putting the blame for said unemployment on Reagan, your reasoning being that Volcker was appointed by a Democrat. That makes about as much sense as blaming the 2020 recession on Trump because he caused the pandemic.

I agree with you about the insulin. Thats just a drop in the bucket though. Health care costs in the USA are out of control.

Reagan's whopping ten consecutive months of 10%+ Unemployment Rates began a year after he was elected, which itself happened a year after Carter's Fed Chairman Volcker began to enact the Fed Funds rate increases that also began to steadily reduce the rate of inflation about 3 months later. And Volcker reduced the Fed Funds rates right slong with the steady, almost monthly decline in inflation.

They did not occur in the midst of steady Fed Funds rate increases or a steady increase in the rate of inflation.

Reagan had already inherited a declining Unemployment Rate by January 1981, down from a one month spike to 7. 8% to around 7. 2% that continued well into late 1981, all while the rate of inflation and the Fed Funds rate trajectories were trending downward, not upward.

LOL. I see Trump is on NBC bragging about when he begged his Fed Chairman appointee to lower interest rates even before he crashed worldwide economies in 2020 with Trump's Pandemic because, "we had the Greatest Economy ever"!

Which, of course, is exactly what "the Greatest Economy ever" desperately needs. Lolol.

And you think numbskulls like the lord and savior perfect Repub Leader like him could even come within 1000 miles of an effective economic stimulus legislation much less propose, sign and pass one?

Oh, BTW, his begging for lower interest rates had everything to do with his colossal outstanding debt on his colossally failing golf resorts and nothing to do with "the USA economy. " So we add blatantly obvious con man to his numbskull characteristic. Yes, the perfect Repub Party lord and savior.

[Tiny 12]

....In the past seven days, President Biden was targeted for impeachment and his son was indicted. That was just the start....

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/15/u...bad-week.html#

Hey Tooms, you need to subscribe to the New York Times like the Marquis and I do, so you can read all the dirt on Biden.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"My comments about Volcker, Miller and Powell were tongue in cheek. In fact I believe the Volcker led Fed did a good job. It slayed the inflation beast. You however are stone cold serious, praising Volcker for a job well done, when the Fed caused unemployment to increase with tight monetary policy. While at the same time putting the blame for said unemployment on Reagan, your reasoning being that Volcker was appointed by a Democrat. That makes about as much sense as blaming the 2020 recession on Trump because he caused the pandemic.

I agree with you about the insulin. Thats just a drop in the bucket though. Health care costs in the USA are out of control. ".

The fat lady is wailing Ave Maria!

White House MEMO.

Biden's Tough Week: The President Faces Personal and Political Setbacks.

In the past seven days, President Biden was targeted for impeachment and his son was indicted. That was just the start.

Share full article.

President Biden grasping his hands near his face.

President Biden faced multiple political challenges this week. Credit. Anna Rose Layden for The New York Times.

Peter Baker.

By Peter Baker.

Peter Baker has covered the past five presidents and reported from Washington.

Sept. 15,2023.

Updated 5:53 pm ET.

It says something about the way things have been going for President Biden lately that being targeted for impeachment was not the worst news of a tough week.

To be sure, it was not a highlight. But over the course of the past seven days, Mr. Biden was besieged on multiple fronts, both personal and political, challenging his capacity, threatening his family and jeopardizing his political position.

He was panned by critics for his performance at an overseas news conference. One of his favorite columnists urged him not to run again, sparking more hand wringing in his party. A top ally implicitly questioned his choice of running mate. The auto industry fell into a paralyzing strike that could undermine the economy. His son was indicted on three felony charges. And oh yes, House Republicans opened an impeachment inquiry aimed at charging him with high crimes and misdemeanors.

Politics in Washington being what it is today, Mr. Biden and his team exhibited no particular concern over the course of events. After a rocky campaign and two and a half turbulent years in office, they have become accustomed to the gyrations of the modern presidency. Facing a disagreeable short view, they prefer to take the long view, comforting themselves, and arguing to outsiders, that it will work out all right in the end because it has worked out all right before.

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And Mr. Biden has been blessed by helpful enemies, who now appear poised to provoke an unpopular government shutdown at the same time they pursue an impeachment inquiry that even some Republican lawmakers say is not based on evidence of an impeachable offense. If there is anything that could rally disaffected Democrats and independents, the president's strategists believe, it is Republican overreach.

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Mr. Biden at a lectern in front of a display showing the Vietnam flag.

Conservatives mocked Mr. Biden for his speech in Hanoi, Vietnam. Credit. Kenny Holston / The New York Times.

"President Biden was underestimated two years ago and then he went on to pass historic legislation that has led the USA To have the strongest recovery of any developed economy in the world," Ben LaBolt, the White House communications director, said on Friday. "We don't get distracted by Washington parlor games that most Americans are entirely uninterested in. ".

Avoiding distraction is hardly easy. Mr. Biden was told of the indictment against his son Hunter Biden on Thursday just before leaving the White House to give a speech in Maryland assailing Republican budget plans, forcing him to put the consequences out of his mind long enough to deliver the talk and work the rope lines.

He said nothing about the indictment and little about the rest of the setbacks of the week in public, although there was a moment at an evening campaign fund-raising reception when he lamented the changing culture of politics since he was first elected to the Senate in 1972.

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"Did you ever think you would have to worry about going through protests where you see people standing with their little kids giving you the middle finger and have banners saying, 'F the Democrat' he asked Democratic donors at a private home in McLean, Va. "It's becoming debased, our public disgust," he added. "We just have to change it. ".

The week started in Hanoi, Vietnam, where he gave a news conference on Sunday evening that conservatives quickly mocked because of a few rambling moments and an odd reference to John Wayne. Mr. Biden had barely landed back home and gotten a few hours sleep before Speaker Kevin McCarthy opened an impeachment inquiry accusing the president of corruption without evidence that he had either profited from his son's business dealings or misused his power to help.

The next day, the president picked up The Washington Post to find a column by David Ignatius, who has enjoyed considerable access to the Biden White House, arguing that despite what he considered a laudable record, the 80-year-old president should not run for another term next year. The column caused much buzzing in Washington because Mr. Ignatius has broad respect in the nation's capital as a reasoned voice often supportive of the president and represents the establishment whose approval Mr. Biden has long craved.

Mr. Ignatius's plea for the president to reconsider his decision to seek a second term resonated among many Democrats deeply anxious about his prospects but reluctant to say so out loud for fear of undermining him. Mr. Ignatius addressed the matter on "Morning Joe," the MSNBC show that Mr. Biden is known to watch, with much discussion of whether the president was too old for another term, as polls show many voters believe.

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Just hours later, Senator Mitt Romney, one of the most prominent Republican critics of former President Donald J. Trump, announced that he would retire in favor of "a new generation of leaders" and urged Mr. Biden to do the same. Charlie Cook, a well-regarded nonpartisan election analyst, then weighed in with a column making the case for the president stepping aside.

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A crowd sits under a blue banner reading "Bidenomics, Largo, Maryland. ".

A crowd listening to Mr. Biden speak on Thursday at Prince George's County Community College in Largo, Md. Credit. Anna Rose Layden for The New York Times.

Hunter Biden's indictment was followed on Friday by the first union strike against all three major American automakers, a seismic disruption of a key industry with uncertain effects on the economy. White House officials were watching the situation in Detroit with some trepidation, reasoning that a short strike would not make much difference in the long run but an extended walkout could unsettle the economy at a tenuous moment.

While many Democrats for months have privately hoped for what Mr. Ignatius publicly voiced, there is no indication that Mr. Biden is or would consider abandoning his re-election campaign. Advisers say privately that the idea never comes up and would be ludicrous. If anything, the importunings of the "chattering class," as they like to put it, would push Mr. Biden, who believes he is consistently underestimated, in the opposite direction.

"The Ignatius thing probably did break his heart, however that's the kind of thing that forces him and the campaign and his family into their comfort zone of being underdogs," said Michael LaRosa, a former spokesman for Jill Biden. "The way they view it is: You guys said he couldn't win last time, he couldn't win from the center, he couldn't beat Bernie, he couldn't bring back bipartisanship, he couldn't beat Trump, he couldn't win the midterms. That's how they see things. ".

There is no class of elder statesmen who might persuade Mr. Biden of the opposite, no one he would listen to, according to Democratic strategists. Mr. Biden is said to still resent former President Barack Obama for gently pressing him not to run in 2016, and his relationship with former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is complicated by conflicting ambitions.

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The only ones who might persuade Mr. Biden to change his mind would be his own family, particularly Jill Biden, who talked him out of running for president in 2004. But by all accounts, she and other family members strongly support another campaign, viewing any alternative as a capitulation to the doubters who never believed in the president and the enemies who in her view have weaponized their family against him.

For all the concern in the party — and interviews make clear it is deeper than White House officials are willing to acknowledge — there is also a sense of resignation among many Democrats that there are no obvious alternatives to Mr. Biden ready and able to beat Mr. Trump.

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Jill Biden, left, and Mr. Biden walking down the steps of Air Force One.

Jill Biden talked Mr. Biden out of running for president in 2004. Credit. Tom Brenner for The New York Times.

Even former Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who has worked closely with Mr. Biden to pass his legislative agenda, seemed to call Vice President Kamala Harris into doubt in an interview this week. Asked on CNN twice if she were the best running mate for Mr. Biden, Ms. Pelosi did not directly say yes. "he thinks so," she said of the president, "and that's what matters. ".

Keeping Mr. Trump out of the Oval Office is such a paramount goal for Democrats that even skeptics of Mr. Biden within the party are increasingly coming to the conclusion that it is too late to think about an alternative and more important now to rally around him.

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Gov. Gavin Newsom of California, who was seen as a possible candidate if Mr. Biden did not run, recently told fellow Democrats it was "time for all of us to get on the train and buck up," as he put it in an interview.

Donna Brazile, a former Democratic Party chair, insisted that reports of hand wringing are overwrought. "No matter his age or accomplishment, Democrats must begin to focus on every branch of government, preserving our democracy, inspiring young people to run for office and vote — not to mention raise money and run as if we are 10 points behind," she said. "There's only one way to win: You have to believe in the candidates on the ballot. ".

So far, the polling has been unforgiving, undercutting Mr. Biden's argument that he is the safest choice to defeat Mr. Trump. Multiple surveys have shown him statistically tied with his predecessor, and his approval rating has remained mired around 40 percent despite improving economic conditions.

Mr. Biden's advisers dismiss such findings, noting that Ronald Reagan, Mr. Clinton and Mr. Obama all rebounded from low approval ratings to win re-election handily. Mr. Biden's campaign has already started airing ads in battleground states, and advisers argue that when the time comes for a choice that matters, voters will return to Mr. Biden rather than switch to an unpopular challenger who has been indicted four times, including for trying to subvert democracy.

In the meantime, they said, no one should worry about one week or another. The president survived plenty of tough weeks before pushing through landmark legislation and enacting other major policy goals. After a half-century in politics, they said, he has seen it all and he sets the tone for his White House.

"When I read these stories on Biden's age or polling status, it reminds me of what I used to tell the staff," said Ms. Brazile. "Keep your head down, make your phone calls and just do the work. ".

[MarquisdeSade1]

"Please don't work too hard to help Marquis come to the realization that his and your Party's support for his lord and savior has contributed mightily to it losing, losing, losing and losing since his infamous ride down that escalator.

Losing the vote in 2016, but snatched from total defeat only by the Repub-rigged EC system.

Losing the House.

Losing the Senate.

Rightfully losing the WH vote and the Repub-rigged EC system in 2020.

Lose another Senate seat in 2020.

Losing practically every special election along the way.

Losing even the middling average number of House seats in their WH opposition's first midterm, squeaking out a pathetic Pink Tinkle instead and perjaps only that much because several districts were redrawn by Repub governors whose creative Repub magic marker redrawing penmanship has since been spanked by federal judges.

I would add Losing at least a million Americans, millions upon millions of jobs due to his typically atrocious Repub economic and national security stewardship as well as an unlimited number of Trillions added to the deficit going forward until his one and only economic legislation is repealed or dramatically altered. But I'm not sure the usual virulent Repub / Trumpster would even see those as "losses" of any real significance compared to those Losses in Power / Elections.

But the much bigger Losing problem for your and Marquis' Party is that Trump is not the Loser that in some curious way changed the Repub Party into the Losing Party it has become lately. He did not change the Repub Party at all. He only REVEALED the Repub Party.

It could never have found a better representative of everything it values and has stood for over at least the past 100 years than Donald J. Trump. He knew it was a match made in Loser heaven. That's why he joined that Party. He knew it was calling on someone like him.

If Trump was justifiably dragged off in handcuffs and leg irons to the penetentiary to serve the rest of his life in solitary confinement for his crimes against America, the Repub Party would simply replace him with the Trumpiest clone on the scene.

Their voters would demand nothing less. ".

So much nonsense even for you Bangkok Bob.

Lets just address.

Repub-rigged EC system? WTF?

So the US Constitution was rigged by the GOP? LMAO.

Post script someone that points out others spelling errors no matter how minor.

Should not make so many errors?

Let me guess you went to public schools in California LMAO.

[Tiny 12]

Miller was dumped by Carter after serving 18 months. One of the shortest Fed Chairman tenures ever. He was not willing to do what was difficult but necessary in order to tame Nixon / Ford's hyper-inflation. Then Carter interviewed, vetted and appointed Volcker because he was prepared to do what was difficult but necessary to tame it. Hyper-inflation topped out and began its steady month-over-month decline a mere 3-4 months after Volcker began raising Fed Funds rates at the far more appropraite levels and speed, nearly a full year before Reagan took office.

You seem to think "the price of eggs" in this regard = "The Economy". I have no problem associating higher prices for eggs, gas, housing, whatever with a President's influence on the economy. As long as you don't ONLY focus on the price of eggs and so on.

For example, in the case of Nixon / Ford, there was hyper-inflation with no noticeable increase in jobs or wages.

However, while Carter's brilliant Fed Chairman appointment, Paul Volcker, was quickly bringing down the rate of inflation long before Teflon Ronnie was told by Nancy he was even running for President, Carter's job creation record was among the greatest of all time.

More Americans could afford to buy more eggs and shovel them down their throats at the end of 1980 after that jobs creation record than they could by the end of 1984 after Reagan's Great Repub Recession and his whopping ten consecutive months of 10%+ Unemployment Rates.

Same with Biden's economic srewardship vs Trump's. Aside from Trump's less than average economic results compared to the previous 10-11 presidents with his $1. 5 Trillion net addition to the deficit every 10 years with nothing else to show for it legislation already busy creating fewer jobs with it than without it even before 2020.

By the time his typically atrocious Repub economic and national security stewardship created Trump's Pandemic in 2020 there was no doubt buying and eating eggs was going to be a hell of a lot more difficult for a hell of a lot more Americans, the millions upon millions whose jobs were wiped out by his typically atrocious Repub stewardship.

Was the price of eggs higher in late 2021 and still today than it was in January 2021? Damn good reason it CAN be while more Americans have jobs with better wages to be spent at open supermarkets with shelves stocked with plenty of eggs now.

You want cheaper eggs and cheaper gas in the system? Repubs always have their favorite solution for that goal at the ready; plunge America into another of their patented Great Repub Depressions or Great Repub Recessions, wipe out a few million jobs and, bingo, there's your cheap eggs, gas and houses for ya'!

How about the millions of diabetics in America who will no longer need to pay $1000 per month for insulin and can now pick it up for $35 pocket change thanks to Biden's legislation and stewardship? Think they have an easier time buying eggs and gas today than they did in January 2021? LOL. Aside from whatever medical issues may ensue for diabetics eating eggs. I really don't know. But you get the point.

Take into consideration many economic conditions and overall results and I have no problem "blaming" the higher price of eggs or anything else at just about any time on the economic stewardship and legislation results of a president.

My comments about Volcker, Miller and Powell were tongue in cheek. In fact I believe the Volcker led Fed did a good job. It slayed the inflation beast. You however are stone cold serious, praising Volcker for a job well done, when the Fed caused unemployment to increase with tight monetary policy. While at the same time putting the blame for said unemployment on Reagan, your reasoning being that Volcker was appointed by a Democrat. That makes about as much sense as blaming the 2020 recession on Trump because he caused the pandemic.

I agree with you about the insulin. Thats just a drop in the bucket though. Health care costs in the USA are out of control.

[EihTooms]

Yes, Mitt would get primaried by a vindictive Trump if he runs in 2024, and probably lose. In Utah, it won't make much difference, as the Republican, whoever he or she is, will triumph in November.

Trump did the same thing to Jeff Flake in Arizona. Flake, who would have won the general election, withdrew because he knew he couldn't get past the primary. If not for Trump and his influence over the primaries and general elections, Republicans would control the Senate and have a solid majority in the House. Georgia would be red instead of purple, and Arizona might just be red too. Donald Trump is the Democrat's Best Friend.

Respectfully Marquis, Trumpsters only represent about 35% of American voters. I don't think the Republican Party can win enough seats to control the House and Senate if it continues kicking people like Romney to the side.

Please don't work too hard to help Marquis come to the realization that his and your Party's support for his lord and savior has contributed mightily to it losing, losing, losing and losing since his infamous ride down that escalator.

Losing the vote in 2016, but snatched from total defeat only by the Repub-rigged EC system.

Losing the House.

Losing the Senate.

Rightfully losing the WH vote and the Repub-rigged EC system in 2020.

Lose another Senate seat in 2020.

Losing practically every special election along the way.

Losing even the middling average number of House seats in their WH opposition's first midterm, squeaking out a pathetic Pink Tinkle instead and perjaps only that much because several districts were redrawn by Repub governors whose creative Repub magic marker redrawing penmanship has since been spanked by federal judges.

I would add Losing at least a million Americans, millions upon millions of jobs due to his typically atrocious Repub economic and national security stewardship as well as an unlimited number of Trillions added to the deficit going forward until his one and only economic legislation is repealed or dramatically altered. But I'm not sure the usual virulent Repub / Trumpster would even see those as "losses" of any real significance compared to those Losses in Power / Elections.

But the much bigger Losing problem for your and Marquis' Party is that Trump is not the Loser that in some curious way changed the Repub Party into the Losing Party it has become lately. He did not change the Repub Party at all. He only REVEALED the Repub Party.

It could never have found a better representative of everything it values and has stood for over at least the past 100 years than Donald J. Trump. He knew it was a match made in Loser heaven. That's why he joined that Party. He knew it was calling on someone like him.

If Trump was justifiably dragged off in handcuffs and leg irons to the penetentiary to serve the rest of his life in solitary confinement for his crimes against America, the Repub Party would simply replace him with the Trumpiest clone on the scene.

Their voters would demand nothing less.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"Yes, Mitt would get primaried by a vindictive Trump if he runs in 2024, and probably lose. In Utah, it won't make much difference, as the Republican, whoever he or she is, will triumph in November.

Trump did the same thing to Jeff Flake in Arizona. Flake, who would have won the general election, withdrew because he knew he couldn't get past the primary. If not for Trump and his influence over the primaries and general elections, Republicans would control the Senate and have a solid majority in the House. Georgia would be red instead of purple, and Arizona might just be red too. Donald Trump is the Democrat's Best Friend.

Respectfully Marquis, Trumpsters only represent about 35% of American voters. I don't think the Republican Party can win enough seats to control the House and Senate if it continues kicking people like Romney to the side. ".

Hes getting rid of all the trash in DC slowly but surely.

Flake.

Mitt.

Cheney.

Bush.

Clinton.

And many many more.

Our country and the world are in a much better place because of him.

And then he will beat Biden a 2nd time soon, Inshallah.

So hopefully then he and his junkie bagman can finally share a cell in Florence.

Allahu Akbar.

Remember his signature line from his TV show which I've never seen (I probably haven't watched a TV in at least 20 yrs) you're FIRED.

Thats what he does he gets rid of those scumbags for the American people, he isn't vindictive per se.

Hes doing it at our behest!!

[MarquisdeSade1]

"Yes, Mitt would get primaried by a vindictive Trump if he runs in 2024, and probably lose. In Utah, it won't make much difference, as the Republican, whoever he or she is, will triumph in November.

Trump did the same thing to Jeff Flake in Arizona. Flake, who would have won the general election, withdrew because he knew he couldn't get past the primary. If not for Trump and his influence over the primaries and general elections, Republicans would control the Senate and have a solid majority in the House. Georgia would be red instead of purple, and Arizona might just be red too. Donald Trump is the Democrat's Best Friend.

Respectfully Marquis, Trumpsters only represent about 35% of American voters. I don't think the Republican Party can win enough seats to control the House and Senate if it continues kicking people like Romney to the side. ".

He only ran for Orins seat because he just wanted to be able to vote to impeach Our lord and Savior.

If that's not vindictive? What did Trump do to him?

During the 1st sham impeachment trial wasnt he the only member of the senate to ever vote for impeachment for POTUS of his own party.

Thats what he joined the senate to do.

You're much more conservative than I, you should hate him more than I do, he is a RINO.

Former Gov of Mass, his Romneycare served as a model for Obamacare.

I am a Nationalist populist, I'm quite optimistic Trump will expand the partys appeal with non whites 2023-2029.

The quintessential big tent, stay tuned.

[Tiny 12]

I'm guessing he was going to lose reelection that's why hes quitting.

How many that voted to impeach Our Lord and Savior are still around? LMAO.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...hment-inquiry/

Mitt has been very bad for Mormons.

If you didn't hate Mormons before you sure do now, Thanks Mittens LMAO.

Yes, Mitt would get primaried by a vindictive Trump if he runs in 2024, and probably lose. In Utah, it won't make much difference, as the Republican, whoever he or she is, will triumph in November.

Trump did the same thing to Jeff Flake in Arizona. Flake, who would have won the general election, withdrew because he knew he couldn't get past the primary. If not for Trump and his influence over the primaries and general elections, Republicans would control the Senate and have a solid majority in the House. Georgia would be red instead of purple, and Arizona might just be red too. Donald Trump is the Democrat's Best Friend.

Respectfully Marquis, Trumpsters only represent about 35% of American voters. I don't think the Republican Party can win enough seats to control the House and Senate if it continues kicking people like Romney to the side.

[EihTooms]

This is proof that even the brightest among us are sucked in by MSNBC and Progressive demagoguery. Blame it on the corporations and the wealthy, who don't pay their fair share. Right.

There were three main provisions of the Republican's Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.

1. Temporary cuts in personal income tax rates, which made our income tax system more progressive, by lowering the % of income middle income Americans pay in income tax by more than higher-income Americans. Democrats could have chosen to accelerate the sunset of these cuts in 2021 and 2022 but chose not to.

2. A permanent cut in the corporate income tax rate, so that our total (federal + state) corporate rate went from the highest in the developed world to the middle of the pack. This was coupled with the GILTI tax on American companies' income from foreign subsidiaries, and legislation that encouraged American companies to bring cash from overseas back home. No Democrats want to go back to what we have before. The moderates and Biden don't want to raise the federal corporate rate all the way back to 35%. And the Progressives like Sanders and Warren don't want to do away with the GILTI tax. Democrats could have chosen to modify these changes in the corporate tax regime in 2021 and 2022 but wisely chose not to.

3. A temporary implementation of a 20% deduction for pass-through income for small companies, and for companies with high labor and depreciation expense as a % of revenue. This is the so called Qualified Business Income (QBI) deduction. I don't believe that government should play favorites. Taxpayers should be treated the same. As such I believe that Democrats should have done away with the QBI deduction in 2021 and 2022. But they chose not to.

The Fed has two mandates, to control inflation and to support high employment. Yes, under G. William Miller and Paul Volcker, inflation and unemployment soared. Both were appointed to the Fed Board of Governors and the Fed Chair by Jimmy Carter, a Democrat.

Jerome Powell was appointed to the Fed Board of Governors by Barrack Obama, a Democrat. He was initially appointed Chair of the Fed by Donald Trump, a Republican, and later re-appointed Chair by Joe Biden, a Democrat. Unemployment and inflation also soared under Powell.

HOWEVER, most Fed governors voted along with the Chairs during the Carter, Reagan, Trump and Biden administrations. And Manslut's excellent pronouncement applies to Fed Chairs, just like presidents. So I don't fault Democratic presidents for their appointments.

Miller was dumped by Carter after serving 18 months. One of the shortest Fed Chairman tenures ever. He was not willing to do what was difficult but necessary in order to tame Nixon / Ford's hyper-inflation. Then Carter interviewed, vetted and appointed Volcker because he was prepared to do what was difficult but necessary to tame it. Hyper-inflation topped out and began its steady month-over-month decline a mere 3-4 months after Volcker began raising Fed Funds rates at the far more appropraite levels and speed, nearly a full year before Reagan took office.

You seem to think "the price of eggs" in this regard = "The Economy". I have no problem associating higher prices for eggs, gas, housing, whatever with a President's influence on the economy. As long as you don't ONLY focus on the price of eggs and so on.

For example, in the case of Nixon / Ford, there was hyper-inflation with no noticeable increase in jobs or wages.

However, while Carter's brilliant Fed Chairman appointment, Paul Volcker, was quickly bringing down the rate of inflation long before Teflon Ronnie was told by Nancy he was even running for President, Carter's job creation record was among the greatest of all time.

More Americans could afford to buy more eggs and shovel them down their throats at the end of 1980 after that jobs creation record than they could by the end of 1984 after Reagan's Great Repub Recession and his whopping ten consecutive months of 10%+ Unemployment Rates.

Same with Biden's economic srewardship vs Trump's. Aside from Trump's less than average economic results compared to the previous 10-11 presidents with his $1. 5 Trillion net addition to the deficit every 10 years with nothing else to show for it legislation already busy creating fewer jobs with it than without it even before 2020.

By the time his typically atrocious Repub economic and national security stewardship created Trump's Pandemic in 2020 there was no doubt buying and eating eggs was going to be a hell of a lot more difficult for a hell of a lot more Americans, the millions upon millions whose jobs were wiped out by his typically atrocious Repub stewardship.

Was the price of eggs higher in late 2021 and still today than it was in January 2021? Damn good reason it CAN be while more Americans have jobs with better wages to be spent at open supermarkets with shelves stocked with plenty of eggs now.

You want cheaper eggs and cheaper gas in the system? Repubs always have their favorite solution for that goal at the ready; plunge America into another of their patented Great Repub Depressions or Great Repub Recessions, wipe out a few million jobs and, bingo, there's your cheap eggs, gas and houses for ya'!

How about the millions of diabetics in America who will no longer need to pay $1000 per month for insulin and can now pick it up for $35 pocket change thanks to Biden's legislation and stewardship? Think they have an easier time buying eggs and gas today than they did in January 2021? LOL. Aside from whatever medical issues may ensue for diabetics eating eggs. I really don't know. But you get the point.

Take into consideration many economic conditions and overall results and I have no problem "blaming" the higher price of eggs or anything else at just about any time on the economic stewardship and legislation results of a president.

[MarquisdeSade1]

""I like Mitt and Mitch. True, they sometimes supported the growth of our inefficient and wasteful Federal government. But they were on the side of fiscal sanity more than the majority of the Washington political class.

This may hurt Biden. He shouts his support for the workingman and Big Labor from the rooftops. Michigan may just follow in the footsteps of West Virginia, which votes for Republicans by huge margins, in large part because Democrats took their green agenda too far, and jobs were lost. ".

https://theintercept.com/2023/09/12/...t%20Newsletter

[Tiny 12]

I did a Google Search for "Betting odds for the 2024 Presidential election" and could not find a current one that did not place Joe Biden as the clear favorite to win. Can you?

I stopped looking after the first 6 results.

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics...on-2024/winner

https://www.empirestakes.com/ny-spor...-election-odds

https://www.thelines.com/odds/election/

https://www.vegasinsider.com/odds/us...tial-election/

https://www.actionnetwork.com/politi...tion-odds-2024

https://www.covers.com/politics/us-e...n-betting-odds

My favorite age-related quote lately is, "When Joe was a Senior, Donnie was a Freshman. " LOL.

The easiest to understand is predictit.org. You can more or less assume the numbers quoted there correlate with probabilities. It's legal for USA Residents to bet on predictit.org, as it's run by a nonprofit for research purposes. The downside is you're limited on your bets. The maximum punt is something like $1000.

Some people get Alzheimer's in their 50's and others stay sharp as a tack into their 90's. That's not to say that either of our leading presidential candidates is sharp as a tack. Neither is.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"I like Mitt and Mitch. True, they sometimes supported the growth of our inefficient and wasteful Federal government. But they were on the side of fiscal sanity more than the majority of the Washington political class.

This may hurt Biden. He shouts his support for the workingman and Big Labor from the rooftops. Michigan may just follow in the footsteps of West Virginia, which votes for Republicans by huge margins, in large part because Democrats took their green agenda too far, and jobs were lost. ".

I'm guessing he was going to lose reelection that's why hes quitting.

How many that voted to impeach Our Lord and Savior are still around? LMAO.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...hment-inquiry/

Mitt has been very bad for Mormons.

If you didn't hate Mormons before you sure do now, Thanks Mittens LMAO.

[MarquisdeSade1]

"I like Mitt and Mitch. True, they sometimes supported the growth of our inefficient and wasteful Federal government. But they were on the side of fiscal sanity more than the majority of the Washington political class.

This may hurt Biden. He shouts his support for the workingman and Big Labor from the rooftops. Michigan may just follow in the footsteps of West Virginia, which votes for Republicans by huge margins, in large part because Democrats took their green agenda too far, and jobs were lost. ".

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ces-globalism/

https://nationalinterest.org/feature...trength-206386

https://amgreatness.com/2023/09/13/revenge-of-the-bums/

https://dailystormer.in/singer-who-s...-on-new-album/