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09-16-23 19:50 #13046
Posts: 3233Don't be fooled
"I guess Crooks and Liars must unqualifiedly and consistently support the Progressive line while the New York Times doesn't always do that. Well good for the NYT. While their news articles are somewhat biased towards your side, at least more so than the WSJ, at least they occasionally try to be objective. ".
The nyt and objectivity in the same sentence are mutually exclusive.
https://mises.org/wire/censorship-in...rue-intentions
https://dailystormer.in/the-guardian...o-information/
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09-16-23 19:22 #13045
Posts: 3233What do you think is up with that Marquis?
On a separate not, I guess we're going to have to start digging up links from Crooks and Liars to support our posts.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/15/n...tests-nyc.html
I'm not sure, you're an intelligent and sane young man, what's your thinking?
Just a guess, maybe a high ranking member of the military? FBI? CIA?
Most likely a high ranking member of the Capitol Police that was letting all the protesters in and guiding them around??
He does what the lame left always tries, they are constantly trying to manipulate the overton window and pull it left.
Just ignore it, carry on and read just the Daily Stormer, daily!!
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09-16-23 19:18 #13044
Posts: 2370Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Pelosi and Trump threw everything but the kitchen sink at the 2020 recession. The only voices of sanity, which came at the end of 2020, were from Senate Republicans. I don't really understand why you're complaining about the stimulus and Trump's push for lower interest rates. That's what Progressives favor, right? Modern Monetary Theory? Loose monetary policy? Don't worry about the national debt or low interest rates because you can just jack up taxes to control inflation? Well that doesn't really work, especially when you don't have the stomach to raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000 a year. You just end up like Greece or Argentina.
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09-16-23 19:05 #13043
Posts: 2370Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1 [View Original Post]
On a separate note, I guess we're going to have to start digging up links from Crooks and Liars to support our posts. Tooms doesn't trust the New York Times, it's too right wing.
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09-16-23 17:31 #13042
Posts: 3233Its faux objectivity, its an illusion, a smokescreen
I guess Crooks and Liars must unqualifiedly and consistently support the Progressive line while the New York Times doesn't always do that. Well good for the NYT. While their news articles are somewhat biased towards your side, at least more so than the WSJ, at least they occasionally try to be objective. ".
For their mega agenda.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023...ut-of-the-way/
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09-16-23 17:29 #13041
Posts: 3233Do you know how this parasitic scum stole all his money
"That's sad, that he had to spend 5,000 a day on security for his family.
It's somewhat reminiscent of Ray Epp's situation. Epps was a strong supporter of Trump, and a regional leader of the Oath Keepers. Because of a false conspiracy theory spread by Revolver and Tucker Carlson, that he was some kind of federal agent, he had to sell his business and house in Arizona and go into semi hiding somewhere in the Rockies. Epps says the government is going to soon charge him for encouraging people to peacefully trespass on Capitol grounds on January 6. That may actually help him. Maybe it will cause his potential persecutors to realize he wasn't a government agent.
Epps actually may be the reason Fox fired Carlson. It didn't help them though. Epps has since sued Fox for fucking up his life.
I'm not sure you can blame all of this on Trump though. A very small minority of his more ardent supporters would take things too far. ".
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire...cret-103233093".
https://www.businessinsider.com/chec...ng-down-2011-8
$5000 shouldn't be nearly enough!!
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09-16-23 16:14 #13040
Posts: 2370Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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09-16-23 16:10 #13039
Posts: 2370Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
Trump's EC win in 2016 was a fluke. After Rutherford B. Hayes, who was selected president in a grand bargain so that Union troops would leave the south, there's been no election where a candidate lost the popular vote by more than 1% and won the electoral vote, up until 2016. And if I understand your link, this is no longer likely to happen.
This is the United STATES of America. That's probably the reason the founders came up with the electoral college. And it's a good thing that we are the United STATES. If Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, Elizabeth Warren et al fully imposed their agendas on states like Wyoming and North Dakota, there just might be open rebellion.
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09-16-23 13:28 #13038
Posts: 3233"That's sad, that he had to spend 5,000 a day on security for his family.
It's somewhat reminiscent of Ray Epp's situation. Epps was a strong supporter of Trump, and a regional leader of the Oath Keepers. Because of a false conspiracy theory spread by Revolver and Tucker Carlson, that he was some kind of federal agent, he had to sell his business and house in Arizona and go into semi hiding somewhere in the Rockies. Epps says the government is going to soon charge him for encouraging people to peacefully trespass on Capitol grounds on January 6. That may actually help him. Maybe it will cause his potential persecutors to realize he wasn't a government agent.
Epps actually may be the reason Fox fired Carlson. It didn't help them though. Epps has since sued Fox for fucking up his life.
I'm not sure you can blame all of this on Trump though. A very small minority of his more ardent supporters would take things too far."
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire...cret-103233093
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09-16-23 13:23 #13037
Posts: 3233So how is it rigged? For them today
"When do I point out so many spelling errors?
Uh. The two worst presidents of all time, both Repubs, both incalculable scourges on America and Americans, just within the past 23 years were installed in the White House despite losing the vote by Millions solely because there is such a thing as the Electoral College system. Well, that and that the majority in the Supreme Court was Repub too one of those times.
Clearly, it is a rigged system that favors Repubs. Rigged FOR them today, not by them in the beginning. Although in the beginning it was rigged to favor land masses and land owners over human beings.
So, in that sense, it was preordained to be rigged for Repub Red States that even today have more tumble weeds, rattle snakes and outhouses than human beings, tax payers and skyscrapers. Compared to a huge, popular and economically critical state like California, both Dakotas, Wyoming, Kansas, etc etc combined should have nothing rigged in their favor to in any way inch them toward as much national election influence as California.
However, that is what the EC system does for their benefit in terms of presidential election outcomes. Certainly not for their benefit or the benefit of the country at large in terms of the economy, national security, health, wellbeing, democracy or American values."
The 'rig' that means "to manipulate or control usually by deceptive or dishonest means" first appeared in an 18th century slang dictionary with the definition "game, diversion, ridicule. See 'fun'."
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09-16-23 12:28 #13036
Posts: 2370Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]
It's somewhat reminiscent of Ray Epp's situation. Epps was a strong supporter of Trump, and a regional leader of the Oath Keepers. Because of a false conspiracy theory spread by Revolver and Tucker Carlson, that he was some kind of federal agent, he had to sell his business and house in Arizona and go into semi hiding somewhere in the Rockies. Epps says the government is going to soon charge him for encouraging people to peacefully trespass on Capitol grounds on January 6. That may actually help him. Maybe it will cause his potential persecutors to realize he wasnt a government agent.
Epps actually may be the reason Fox fired Carlson. It didnt help them though. Epps has since sued Fox for fucking up his life.
Im not sure you can blame all of this on Trump though. A very small minority of his more ardent supporters would take things too far.
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09-16-23 11:16 #13035
Posts: 151099 Problems, Mitt but being "primaried", ain't one...
Did the orange devil spawn, really get "street creed" with his new found mug shot?
According to Mitt and other Repub congressmen and women who would have voted to impeach the tyrannical insurrectionist 4x indicted ex-president, feared for their very lives, from the QAnon/MAGA right-wing lunatic fringe.
The orange devil, as most of us already knew, was thuggin', mobbin' and threatin' and was acting like a mob boss from the jump. These Repub congresspersons and "Never Trumpers" say, if it were not for the death threats on their own lives, their children and their families lives, they'd have impeached the devil.
So getting "primaried" by the vindictive little orange devil, I imagine, was the least of Mitt's problems, as the dude was doling and shelling out a whooping $5K a day, to protect himself and his family, with private security, since the J6 riot.
99 Problems, but Mitt getting "primaried" ain't one...as Sen. Romney, reveals all, as he announces and prepares for retirement.
Repubs...thuggin' R us?
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09-16-23 10:10 #13034
Posts: 6865Excellent video
In a 4 minute video, she does a brilliant job of underscoring the damaging effects of typical pro-Repub Bothsiderism in Mainstream Media:
Dear Media, Do Your Job!
Remember when the media used to actually report the news?
https://crooksandliars.com/2023/09/d...ia-do-your-job
One of my favorite quotes regarding journalism is from Sally Claire who said, "If someone says it's raining and another person says it's dry, it's not your job to quote them both. Your job is to look out the fucking window and find out which is true."
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09-16-23 09:45 #13033
Posts: 6865Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1 [View Original Post]
Uh. The two worst presidents of all time, both Repubs, both incalculable scourges on America and Americans, just within the past 23 years were installed in the White House despite losing the vote by Millions solely because there is such a thing as the Electoral College system. Well, that and that the majority in the Supreme Court was Repub too one of those times.
Clearly, it is a rigged system that favors Repubs. Rigged FOR them today, not by them in the beginning. Although in the beginning it was rigged to favor land masses and land owners over human beings.
So, in that sense, it was preordained to be rigged FOR Repub Red States that even today have more tumble weeds, rattle snakes and outhouses than human beings, tax payers and skyscrapers. Compared to a huge, popular and economically critical state like California, both Dakotas, Wyoming, Kansas, etc etc combined should have nothing rigged in their favor to in any way inch them toward as much national election influence as California.
However, that is what the EC system does for their benefit in terms of presidential election outcomes. Certainly not for their benefit or the benefit of the country at large in terms of the economy, national security, health, wellbeing, democracy or American values.
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09-16-23 05:11 #13032
Posts: 6865Originally Posted by Tiny12 [View Original Post]
Maybe we can get Marquis to copy and paste this NYT article that somehow got past its pro-Repub panel of editors. Or, like most MSM, they are simply imparting warnings and pointers to help their Repub darlings improve their game. I suppose you can copy and paste it too.
Trump's Electoral College Edge Seems To Be Fading
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/11/u...rump-2024.html