Pattaya has to be the cheapest and easiest place on earth. This is my 3rd trip to pattaya and I learned so much the first two trips that it saved me ton of money this time around.
First of all if you want to save shit load of money you need to cut the middle man that means no bars no gogos no clubs which is a very difficult thing to do for first timers because the FOMO. They want to go out and have "fun" and experience the nightlife but in my opinion there is absolutely no fun at all at the bars. The bars are there not to entertain you but to extract money from you for little to no return. If you really think objectively about all the shit the girls and bars owners do to the customers you will not step a foot in another bar again.
I rented an apartment to be able to have more than one guest a night and subscribed, TF and learned to entertain myself without drinking all day long.
The total I spent a day in pattaya having 3ST a day including the food, transportation and hotel is 7000 baht or $200 a day. The apartment is 2000 baht and the TF girls 1000-1500 baht most were 1000 but just to be fair I rounded the average to 1300.
I have a different view. To me the fuck is the icing on the cake and its not worth going to a place like Pattaya to stay in my room and swipe an app. I can do that in Singapore and fuck the same Thai girls here for $100 for 90 min 2 pops. I actually like the attention in bars. I like groping naked women in Windmill. I like two girls all over me in a GC. I like browsing the endless selection on Beach Road. The fuck is just a nice ending to all of that. But as they say. Different strokes.
Pattaya has to be the cheapest and easiest place on earth. This is my 3rd trip to pattaya and I learned so much the first two trips that it saved me ton of money this time around.
First of all if you want to save shit load of money you need to cut the middle man that means no bars no gogos no clubs which is a very difficult thing to do for first timers because the FOMO. They want to go out and have "fun" and experience the nightlife but in my opinion there is absolutely no fun at all at the bars. The bars are there not to entertain you but to extract money from you for little to no return. If you really think objectively about all the shit the girls and bars owners do to the customers you will not step a foot in another bar again.
I rented an apartment to be able to have more than one guest a night and subscribed, TF and learned to entertain myself without drinking all day long.
The total I spent a day in pattaya having 3ST a day including the food, transportation and hotel is 7000 baht or $200 a day. The apartment is 2000 baht and the TF girls 1000-1500 baht most were 1000 but just to be fair I rounded the average to 1300.
I think this is right. I was there for 4 months during the pandemic and I really got to enjoy Thai friendly. Sometimes the girl would be flaky or give bad service, but my success rate was higher with girls from TF than the average bar girl. Most of the girls also weren't getting trained by one guy after another like on soi 6. I was often their only or first appointment of the day. Part of that was the pandemic, but it also feels like the girls on TF are a little less involved in the full-on sex trade thing.
And it's so much cheaper than paying for a bar fine and all that. Less up-selling and just better demeanor from the girls, IMO. They are more likely to want to be your GF than a bar girl, but that's the only downside that I've encountered.
If you really think objectively about all the shit the girls and bars owners do to the customers you will not step a foot in another bar again.
You had some bad experiences you would want to share? Or you heard of some? Except the odd bill padding or unhonest owner or staff, what are you talking about precisely?
Pattaya has to be the cheapest and easiest place on earth. This is my 3rd trip to pattaya and I learned so much the first two trips that it saved me ton of money this time around.
First of all if you want to save shit load of money you need to cut the middle man that means no bars no gogos no clubs which is a very difficult thing to do for first timers because the FOMO. They want to go out and have "fun" and experience the nightlife but in my opinion there is absolutely no fun at all at the bars. The bars are there not to entertain you but to extract money from you for little to no return. If you really think objectively about all the shit the girls and bars owners do to the customers you will not step a foot in another bar again.
I rented an apartment to be able to have more than one guest a night and subscribed, TF and learned to entertain myself without drinking all day long.
The total I spent a day in pattaya having 3ST a day including the food, transportation and hotel is 7000 baht or $200 a day. The apartment is 2000 baht and the TF girls 1000-1500 baht most were 1000 but just to be fair I rounded the average to 1300.
Just spent 10 days and nights in Pattaya and these were my findings / experiences. This is mainly Gents Clubs based.
This was the 4th time for me in Pattaya and finally I found my bearings sufficiently that I didn't need Google maps as much as previously. It can be a bit of a maze. I decided this time that my fitness regime to support my mongering should be that I walked to every venue and I mean every one including the ones in Jomtien from Pattaya! I'm not sure what ached most at the end of the 10 days my dick or my feet. At least only the feet had blisters! It goes without saying that I did not have sessions in every place I went to. Not least as that would have been physically impossible in the 10 days. But I wanted to see a lot of places this time..
I was told they have little respect for Cheap Charlies too.
This is how I see it for myself. My flight from LAX to Bangkok takes approximately 24 hours. I am maximizing my time off by combining PTO with the Christmas break. I admit I am one of those who enjoy being a "two-week millionaire. " Personally, I am not going to worry about paying an extra $30 and missing out on someone I like just to keep the rates to the liking of the locals. I'm not concerned about saving my $30 so I can.
Get a handjob for $150 by an old Vietnamese grandma in California.
I think there is truth to all sides of the cost and value debate. On one hand I have found definitively that more pay doesn't guarantee better service and more often than not its an inverse correlation. More pay does often get better looks (subjective of course) and almost certainly will save time. I have had amazing experiences back in the day for as little as 500 B and the best Thai girl I ever had was a hot mix Thai Indian who would stay with me 3 days and ID give her $100 at the end of it. Even with inflation that was a cheap and amazing fuck. But last trip to Pattaya I said fuck the cost and barfined young hotties from Walking Street for about 4 to 5 K total and had decent but not spectacular experiences (normal BBFS with a 20 yo does not meet the spectacular bar). So depends what you want. How deep are your pockets, how much time do you have and how picky are you? Its the old Cheap, Fast and Good dilemma. Can always get one, lucky to get two, probably never get all 3.
Here is a video of two Thai girls openly filming the soi being violently shouted at in front of Toy Box, they closed their cam right after out of fear.
Occurred at minute 7.08.
Never seen it done so violently when they are filmed by foreigners.
Problem is that it's a slippery slope if there are enough Weekend Millionaires who don't care about pricing. May be 1000 baht for you this trip but come back in a few years and if everyone has that who cares about cost mindset it will be 3000 baht more.
I agree. And that is where the beauty of Pattaya comes in handy. There are thousands more where that one came from.
Recently a soapy chick that I have been giving 1000 LT for the past year told me that from now on it will be 2000ST. I told her good luck. I do not argue or negotiate with old pussy. I rarely even fuck chicks more than once, but she was a nice chick to chill with.
I am admitted speaking from a different angle. It sounds like you may live here whereas I just vacation here. I feel as if you are not looking at the value of time and just to put some things in perspective. Given my current salary it takes me a little less than 12 minutes to make 1000 THB. So how I think about it is if it's going to cost me more than 12 minutes to try and save 1000 while keeping the same quality of girl then it's not really worth the effort.
Would you be working if you weren't spending those 12 minutes trying to save 1000 baht? If you would not be working, your wage is effectively zero, so it is costing you 1000 baht to not negotiate.
So how I think about it is if it's going to cost me more than 12 minutes to try and save 1000 while keeping the same quality of girl then it's not really worth the effort.
Problem is that it's a slippery slope if there are enough Weekend Millionaires who don't care about pricing. May be 1000 baht for you this trip but come back in a few years and if everyone has that who cares about cost mindset it will be 3000 baht more. Take a look at Germany FKK prices. In Germany standard pricing was 50 euro per half hour for every girl in 2017. Now many girls seek 200 euro for a half hour for the same service levels. At 3 girls per day on a 2 week trip you're looking at 6,300 euro (5,900 USD) more per trip. According to your post you make 1000 baht every 12 minutes meaning you earn 140.18 USD per hour or roughly 250,000 USD annually based on 8 hour days and 220 working days per year. It's safe to say not many guys on her are as wealthy as you. I digress. Every single guy has stopped going to Germany FKK clubs because of this. The market was ruined by guys who didn't care to pay more. I predict Thailand will become like this sooner rather than later. In fact, most of my friends have already switched to Phnom Penh over Thailand. Look at the price increase in Makati over the past few years too. Will only worsen.
Hope my math is correct I did it pretty quickly. Even if my math is incorrect I think we all get the gist.
The idea that there is not difference between 1200 and 2000 THB. Really? GTF! ROTFLMAO. That is a big difference of money here. I can take 800 - 1000 THB and buy me and my Girlfriend an enough food for three people. We cannot even eat it all. Really good food too. And I am not a foodie. I can take 800 - 1000 THB and buy my girlfriend an outfit in Central or Terminal 21 that will get me a public hug and kiss. For 800 - 1000 THB I can have my laundry, washed, iron and folded for half a month.
Just because you have lot of money, does not mean you should pay a lot of money for goods and services you can get for less, unless you are sure that the payment is getting you better goods or services. That is called looking for value. And I am certain no one pays more than they need to on the same percentage basis for anything in their regular economic life. So, why do you guys overpay when tricking?.
I am admitted speaking from a different angle. It sounds like you may live here whereas I just vacation here. I feel as if you are not looking at the value of time and just to put some things in perspective. Given my current salary it takes me a little less than 12 minutes to make 1000 THB. So how I think about it is if it's going to cost me more than 12 minutes to try and save 1000 while keeping the same quality of girl then it's not really worth the effort.
So, you going to take the opinion of one trick who went there one time? I am not. They may or not have your tastes or even your desire in the moment they are making their evaluation. Go and see for yourselves. Fuck what you heard.
Who said the opposite? Every post is just a piece of information about whatever the member experienced himself, readers can take it and do whatever they want with it, that's the purpose of the forum.
As a newbie, you should go there, make your own opinion of the place and report back.