Seeking Arrangements

[Steve 9696]

Bad move, never pay unless there is intimacy.

Yeah from what I see Pi is pretty experienced now. But we all make rookie mistakes starting out with Seeking. And the paid for meetup is def always a scam. The other common scams to watch for:

1. Can't wait to meet up. Let me send you some pics for $xx in the meantime.

2. Really love chatting with you. Can't wait to meet up. Damn I didn't have lunch can you CashApp me some pizza money?

3. I'm on my way but damn I ran out of gas. Can you CashApp me $40?

I've run into all of these. Mostly early on. The last one is the most frustrating. I was literally at the restaurant when she pulled that shit. Older and wiser now.

[DramaFree11]

I only did a paid MG once. I normally do dinner plus after. Did it because girl wanted to meet to make sure comfortable before a real date. She was super smoking hot so I acquiesced. Offered 100 dollars. Figured I'the start strong to close the deal.

Within a few minutes I could tell she just showed up to clock that Benjamin and leave. It was obvious. I still paid because it was the agreement but I knew I'the been had within a few minutes. It was in the air.

Bad move, never pay unless there is intimacy.

[AmericanPi]

Yeah def recommend not doing the coffee date even unpaid. I did it once successfully but prob five fails and swore off it. And never ever ever a platonic dinner date. Dinner date with wine and take it to the room. Only sure fire method.

I only did a paid MG once. I normally do dinner plus after. Did it because girl wanted to meet to make sure comfortable before a real date. She was super smoking hot so I acquiesced. Offered 100 dollars. Figured I'the start strong to close the deal.

Within a few minutes I could tell she just showed up to clock that Benjamin and leave. It was obvious. I still paid because it was the agreement but I knew I'the been had within a few minutes. It was in the air.

[DramaFree11]

Yeah def recommend not doing the coffee date even unpaid. I did it once successfully but prob five fails and swore off it. And never ever ever a platonic dinner date. Dinner date with wine and take it to the room. Only sure fire method.

Yep, in America Lunch dates are a huge waste of time. I do however do many lunch dates in Mexico. They know the deal and are ready for some afternoon delight.

[Steve 9696]

There is is a lot high paying US guys here, for them that probably would be a steal. But I live here more than 5 years, and know the local market. She's not paying any taxes on that (unlike pros) so that's ridiculous rate for a dinner date without sex. It smelled from the start. Claim of genuine connection, but zero effort to maintain communication, and few other reddish flags. The worst part was this stupid attempt to pressure me by comparing to other men. WTF, who does she thinks she deals with, her 25 year old BF back in Poland?

Yeah def recommend not doing the coffee date even unpaid. I did it once successfully but prob five fails and swore off it. And never ever ever a platonic dinner date. Dinner date with wine and take it to the room. Only sure fire method.

[Steve 9696]

Sarah is a whip smart pocket rocket half African and half Italian. We'the clicked at our first dinner a year ago and spent the weekend together in London spooning in my tiny twin bed. She's an amazing girl to hang with but the sex was a bit hit or Miss, given her extraordinarily tiny pussy and my girth. And her BJ was a bit meh but I really like this girl.

After spending several days together in the Mediterranean I saw her again in London one night and she was kinda lazy and wanted to watch Netflix and order in. Boo. So I ghosted her.

Gen Z are so sensitive with texting. After me not responding to two texts she deletes her acct and all my contact info! Fast forward to July and I get a CashApp for 1£ saying she misses me. Awwwwww. Clever girl. So after spending a few bucks in CashApp conversation LOL we reconnect. I decide to go full on honesty with her and tell her why I ghosted her. Good move because we reconnected this week in person and it was great.

First day was sightseeing and what fun with a girl in her local city. Lovely dinner. Lovely sex (she missed me alot!) and of course she's staying the next couple days. A couple highlights. First is that I gave her a bit of BJ coaching how to do harmonica. She may have seemed mildly offended but then took to it like a duck to water, blowing me forever and saying "god I love sucking your dick". Luv that. Def recommend doing a bit of BJ coaching. Wish I'the done it earlier. Don't be shy these girls aren't pros. I remember I did it with Alex back in 2019 and she gives a mind blowing BJ now.

Second highlight had nothing to do with sex! We went dancing at a gay club in London called Heaven. If you are a serious homophobe you might want to open your mind a little bit. I opened mine back with Thifany in the club in 2018 and twice went to gay clubs w my girl in tow since. It's an amazing free vibing party and it's completely harmless. Way more fun than the straight clubs. No one's going to try to fuck you in the ass. It's just a lot of people having fun. The one we went to is called Heaven and it was off the hook on a Monday! High recommend. We danced for 4. 5 hours straight I shit you not. I remember with Thifany that we ate like pigs but danced like idiots and I lost four pounds. Would not be surprised if the Steve Dance Diet worked its magic again!

Anyhow morale if the story: don't be afraid to:

Reconnect with your girl.

Coach on BJ.

Push outside your comfort zone.

Big payoffs all around. Have fun fellas!

[AluHut]

I'm glad you didn't pay her ass shit. If she's attractive enough, then there's no telling how much money she's taken from men while looking for a "connection" (and eating and drinking for free on their dime), when in fact, she had no intention of fucking ever. You tell her, "Well, I'm not other men. I'm my own man". For the short period of time I was on Seeking, I made it clear that I would not pay out a "gift" or "allowance" over a get-to-know meeting. Not under any circumstances. And if the girl wasn't down with that because that's what's other men did, or for whatever reason, then she could go find another sucker (I mean man) then!

There is is a lot high paying US guys here, for them that probably would be a steal. But I live here more than 5 years, and know the local market. She's not paying any taxes on that (unlike pros) so that's ridiculous rate for a dinner date without sex. It smelled from the start. Claim of genuine connection, but zero effort to maintain communication, and few other reddish flags. The worst part was this stupid attempt to pressure me by comparing to other men. WTF, who does she thinks she deals with, her 25 year old BF back in Poland?

[AmericanPi]

I did some research, gave it a second thought and decided to pass, it's just not worth it. I would rather do Buenos Aires, at least the girls there do respond on Seeking. And even message me first, which is a good indicator.

Hard American currency is so strong there right now. I bet you are going to be shooting fish in a barrel.

[MiamiBoy1]

I had the same thought a few days ago. But I looked at the state department website. It's one of only a handful of countries, the US has issued a level 4 warning for. It's in bad company. Some of the other countries are like Sudan, Somalia, Iran, North Korea, etc. I immediately noped that.

I did some research, gave it a second thought and decided to pass, it's just not worth it. I would rather do Buenos Aires, at least the girls there do respond on Seeking. And even message me first, which is a good indicator.

[AmericanPi]

Has anybody been there and used Seeking? How is the dating scene?

I know it may be more dangerous than Colombia, and harder to get to, but I would like to give it a try someday, it is definitely off the beaten path and is not full of gringos. Venezuelan girls are good looking too.

I had the same thought a few days ago. But I looked at the state department website. It's one of only a handful of countries, the US has issued a level 4 warning for. It's in bad company. Some of the other countries are like Sudan, Somalia, Iran, North Korea, etc. I immediately noped that.

[The Cane]

Ok, so nothing else was coming up so I decided to have a dinner with that girl that was "no sex on a first date, I need connection, etc". We agreed on time and place and then she said she expected a gift. I asked what kind of gift and she said "400 in an envelope". I told her straight away I won't do that upfront, and definitely not if there is no intimacy. Her reply was predictable and pathetic "other men do that, so I guess we don't match". End of story.

I'm glad you didn't pay her ass shit. If she's attractive enough, then there's no telling how much money she's taken from men while looking for a "connection" (and eating and drinking for free on their dime), when in fact, she had no intention of fucking ever. You tell her, "Well, I'm not other men. I'm my own man". For the short period of time I was on Seeking, I made it clear that I would not pay out a "gift" or "allowance" over a get-to-know meeting. Not under any circumstances. And if the girl wasn't down with that because that's what's other men did, or for whatever reason, then she could go find another sucker (I mean man) then!

[AluHut]

Ok, so nothing else was coming up so I decided to have a dinner with that girl that was "no sex on a first date, I need connection, etc". We agreed on time and place and then she said she expected a gift. I asked what kind of gift and she said "400 in an envelope". I told her straight away I won't do that uprfont, and defineteley not if there is no intimacy. Her reply was predictable and pathetic "other men do that, so I guess we don't match". End of story.

I also wrote to few interesting girl in Montenegro where I'm going on a vacation soon, and nobody replied. Yeah, that's actually worse than "normal" dating apps so far.

[Aureliano16]

Has anybody been there and used Seeking? How is the dating scene?

I know it may be more dangerous than Colombia, and harder to get to, but I would like to give it a try someday, it is definitely off the beaten path and is not full of gringos. Venezuelan girls are good looking too.

The thing is, after the economic "miracle" of the left government, most good looking Venezuelan women are in Colombia (or other countries) already.

The biggest pro, as you said, is that being perceived as more dangerous than Colombia and not being full of gringos might make it as a very cheap destination for mongering. And well, good looking women are turning 18 every day, so there might be still some left in Venezuela.

[MiamiBoy1]

Has anybody been there and used Seeking? How is the dating scene?

I know it may be more dangerous than Colombia, and harder to get to, but I would like to give it a try someday, it is definitely off the beaten path and is not full of gringos. Venezuelan girls are good looking too.

[MiamiBoy1]

It was harder in the USA from 2014 to 2018 than Colombia is now. If I got two responses in a month, that was good.

MB, I have been with my gal for 2 and a half years. Still, I have 20+ women in the 7 to 9 range in Colombia that I could text and they would see me pronto. On top of that, I have like 200 numbers total on whatsapp from seeking women and I saw one in five of these women at most. I wouldn't even have to go on the site to get or date new / strange. There is no way in Colombia I could ever have blue balls.

And you have been in Colombia way longer looking than I have. How come I have these numbers and you do not? The only thing I can come up with is that you are completely short term focused throwing out the good thinking the next one is going to be better. Honestly, the next one usually is not better than the last good one.

And when you have the good, sometimes the women volunteer up a GF or I will ask if she has a friend and is up for a trio. Some of the hottest women and best fucks I ever had were the friends of the women I had previously seen.

No, I'm not short term focused, I'm actually quite opposite. I prefer to have a roster of decent girls so that I don't have to start everything from scratch every time I come down there. The best time for me was 2020 and a year after, I had 4-5 good girls in rotation. But here is the problem. Good girls don't last long, they either get snatched by someone, or move to a better place / country, or just quit SA and pursue other goals. There is no way for me to keep these arrangements going for 2-3+ years. Heck, some even change phone numbers and delete social media without letting me know, I have lost many contacts this way. So, for me personally, this is not about finding the next girl that is hotter or better, this is about replacing them due to the reasons above. I'm sure they play the same game you are talking about and are always in search for a better SD. Once they find one, you get replaced.

BTW, I can guarantee that the vast majority of your 200 WhatsApp contacts are no longer available, and some numbers have been changed.