Stupid shit in Medellin

[JjBee62]

Enlighten me, where in Medellin can I find and fuck sex slaves? La Isla? Lleras? New Life casa? Seeking or Facebook? Or where? Prostitution is legal in Colombia, slavery / human trafficking is not. It's not that it doesn't exist, but I bet 99.9% of us have never had sex with women held as sex slaves and never will. So cut this crap about rape and sex slaves.

You're the one who brought it up. Again:

Do you also realize that nobody forces a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like?

Guys often force a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like and that's either called rape, or sexual slavery.

Probably, 10-25% of us have had sex with women held as sex slaves, even in Medellin. I suspect I have, although it was in the US.

I know for a fact that I have had sex with a woman who was formerly held as a sex slave. At least as early as 6, her mother was letting guys molest her for cash. At age 12 she sold her to a couple who owned a brothel in Atlanta. At 16, when she was getting too old for their clientele, they sold her to a guy who then married her. His fetish wasn't kids, he just wanted a woman he could beat whenever the mood struck him. He put her in the hospital a few times. She got away from him briefly, which is when we met. Eventually he tracked her down. It didn't end well for her.

[JjBee62]

I expected to get another stupid reply from you, but today you exceeded my expectations and posted 3 of them! Wow!

Prostitution IS consensual, do you know why? Because the man or woman must consent to have sex with you. Any hooker is free to decline service at any point. Maybe she finds you dangerous, obnoxious, unclean, etc. She is not a sex slave, and the fact that you pay her or not, doesn't obligate her to have sex with you. She has the right to return you the money and not provide any service. If there is no consent, then the sexual act is considered rape.

Why did you bring up the Kennedy case? The dude was not found guilty. It is obvious that if a woman is intentionally being drugged, she can't give her consent, and therefore, fucking a drugged woman might be considered rape if charges are pressed. Why are we even discussing this? Do mongers travel to a foreign country, where sex is cheap, and drug and rape women? Seriously? Again, you argue just for the sake of arguing, bringing up some weird exceptions. "There are many levels of consent" - wtf are you talking about? If one is of legal age, and is mentally capable of giving consent, it is either yes or no. Simple as that. But you, dumbass, are so dumb to understand this simple concept.

You have a very "unique" skill. You can find a pile of shit literally everywhere, on a fucking pool table, dive right into it and drown. Hilarious! LOL.

It never ends. The complete lack of cognitive function you exhibit amazes me. The most amazing thing about it is, some employer is stupid enough to pay someone who can't follow a thought for more than 2 sentences.

You said:

Do you also realize that nobody forces a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like?

Nearly everything you are questioning follows from that obviously idiotic question (although it's technically a statement converted to a question).

However, let's deal with consensual sex versus prostitution first.

Many prostitutes are in fact sex slaves. They are forced into prostitution in many different ways. Quite often they have no choice in who they fuck. Others, although not forced into prostitution by another person, have no other option to survive. Their consent is forced by their financial situation and lack of options.

That leaves a relatively small group of prostitutes, who are not forced into prostitution, who choose prostitution as a career. They can freely choose their customers. Still it's not consensual sex. It's a business transaction. Laws around the world confirm that. Depending on the country it's either an illegal business transaction, a legal business transaction, or an unenforced, illegal business transaction.

She is not a sex slave, and the fact that you pay her or not, doesn't obligate her to have sex with you.

If you're in a country where prostitution is illegal, that's correct, because you can't compel someone to commit an illegal act through payment. However, if prostitution is legal, then payment for a service obligates the payee to perform the service. And just to be clear, if she returns the money:

1. You didn't pay her. There's no obligation to perform a paid service if no payment is received, or received payment is returned.

2. You're an idiot who still hasn't learned, payment for independent contractors is after completion of services.

Next up:

"Why are we discussing this?

Because some fucking idiot said:

Do you also realize that nobody forces a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like?

Did you forget already?

Yes. Some mongers do travel to foreign countries, where sex is cheap, to drug and rape women. Others fuck prostitutes and refuse to pay. Still others beat up prostitutes. Arrests happen and these things have been discussed here.

To be absolutely clear, fucking a drugged woman is rape. It's not "might be considered rape if charges are pressed. " If charges are brought, the person might be charged with and convicted for rape, but it would definitely be considered rape.

Consent is not as simple as a yes or no, although, with your simple mind it's obvious you can't grasp that. In most cases consent is implied, not expressed. The girl removing all her clothes and telling me repeatedly that she wanted to fuck me, seems like a simple "yes. " However, she was obviously drunk. Her ability to consent was compromised. Had I considered it a simple "yes", and her boyfriend had woken up and caught us, she could have cried "rape" and claimed I had taken advantage of her inebriated state (which is also why the Kennedy case was brought up).

Your closing paragraph is a gem. You realize that you just declared your post was "a pile of shit?" Finally, common ground.

[JjBee62]

Its the same shit you jack ass! Your body your choice! Now stop trying to have the last word, you're not impressing anyone with your stupidity.

Although I'm not advocating anything regarding vaccines or condoms, its not the same thing. If you look around in Medellin you'll see an excellent example that illustrates the difference.

Look for the beggars with twisted, deformed or shriveled limbs. They contracted polio as children. The last case of polio in Colombia was in 1991 (although there have been 2 cases from vaccines since then, both were immuno-compromised). The reason why polio was eradicated in Colombia (and almost entirely eradicated worldwide) was because of mandatory vaccinations.

Had the world decided to treat it as "your body, your choice", thousands of children would still be crippled by the disease every year, and many would die.

[MiamiBoy1]

Really? It is always consenual?

How do you know? So no people are forced into prostitution or held as sex slaves?

What is it considered if she does not return the money and does not provide any service?

I think his reasoning was in your quote that he posted.

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So is it that nobody can force a girl to fuck someone she does not like or is it obvious that sometimes women do not give consent but are fucked anyway?

Enlighten me, where in Medellin can I find and fuck sex slaves? La Isla? Lleras? New Life casa? Seeking or Facebook? Or where? Prostitution is legal in Colombia, slavery / human trafficking is not. It's not that it doesn't exist, but I bet 99.9% of us have never had sex with women held as sex slaves and never will. So cut this crap about rape and sex slaves.

[Elvis 2008]

SW's? Run through Facebook girls? There you go again. It's as if you're not only a complete idiot, but that you insist on declaring the fact every fucking time. The last time I did a SW was probably 1989. Haven't done a Facebook girl for 3 or 4 years. Why would I? I've got literally thousands of contacts now, but I don't even bother with most of them. The 3 that I do now are my GF, a college girl and a business owner. I did pay the business owner for sex the first time. Covid shutdown had wiped out that business. I've never paid the other 2 for sex, although, I've spent money on all 3.

The GF took persistence and patience, combined with a certain skill I have. The same skill was crucial to landing the college girl, who has a fetish which I'm able to help her with. The business owner likes me and trusts me. Just wrote about her several weeks ago. She's the one who wanted a 3 some with her best friend.

LOL. Apparently, we need to do a different cute-rich matrix for you where the whole graph is filled in because all the women want you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pInk1rV2VEg.

I have spent money on them but have not paid them for sex? Say what?

Truth is if if these women really cared about you they would not want you seeing other women. When a woman says she does not care if you are fucking other women, it means she does not care about you.

And if you are fucking multiple women, it just means that you have not found one good or trust worthy enough to commit to.

Does your GF know about the other 2 you are screwing? LOL. A business owner (apparently, not so successful businesswoman that had zero savings to go through the tough times and turned into a hooker once her business got shut down?) Special skill? Do you eat a pussy so well that nobody can resist?

MB, if you look at the female version of the hot-crazy matrix, the cute-money matrix, what the guy is saying, and I agree with, is that women do not take men seriously, I. E. Are husband material, if they do not have money. If you are attractive and poor, the women will play with you (AKA the fun zone), but they won't take you seriously.

As far as what a hooker is versus a "regular" woman is not that she fucks for money. That is all women. The difference between a GF / wife and a hooker is there is a relationship beyond sex for money, and the GF / wife only has one man she is servicing. For me, a sugar baby is in the middle. There is a relationship beyond sex for money but sex for money is still there, and a sugar baby will not just fuck any guy for money. She only fucks guys she is comfortable with and trusts.

So JJBee has sugar babies and once again perverts the term to GF to please his ego and brag. This is like his "marriage" where he and his "wife" were both fucking everything that moved. He does not have a girl friend, and he did not have a wife. In both cases, he had sugar babies even if he had a marriage certificate.

My gal's daughter loves Korean shows, and in one sense, they are more wholesome but practical and honest in another. There was this old lady who said to a young man, "Oh, you have money now. You should get married. " I so prefer that to the bullshit Hollywood puts out. You want to get laid and have fun? Work on your looks. You want to get laid and have a serious relationship? Work on making money. That is why JJBee is such a POS liar. He thinks he is not paying for sex. Hollywood has told him that it is virtuous to not pay for sex.

What a girlie man like JJBee does not get is this a way for men to let go of their money and power. If you believe that bullshit about she likes me and not my money, you are giving away your power. It is totally cool if women take your money and do not put out. It is their right to consent or not. Well, if he likes her for her, and she quits putting out, JJBee the Girlie man should stick with his women right?

I have been watching the men's rights groups, and it is refreshing that there are being so honest. They used to all be female hating but now they are realistic. They are saying if your wife is not putting out, dump her, and I am so glad they are saying that. When you do not equate sex with money, it plays right into the hands of women.

[Gabacho]

It's bizarre how many guys on ISG fantasize about me masturbating. Even throwing in specific details like "in a truck stop bathroom. "

Some of those truck stop bathrooms are pretty nice though. There's even some Pilots and Flying J's out in Wyoming that have private showers inside the bathrooms. I saw one in Iowa one time that even had a buffet restaurant called iron skillet inside of the the truck stop! Sounds as good a place as any to masturbate, then get a nice ribeye steak afterwards.

[Mr Enternational]

Prostitution IS consensual, do you know why? Because the man or woman must consent to have sex with you. Any hooker is free to decline service at any point.

Really? It is always consenual?

She is not a sex slave, and the fact that you pay her or not, doesn't obligate her to have sex with you.

How do you know? So no people are forced into prostitution or held as sex slaves?

She has the right to return you the money and not provide any service. If there is no consent, then the sexual act is considered rape.

What is it considered if she does not return the money and does not provide any service?

Why did you bring up the Kennedy case? The dude was not found guilty. It is obvious that if a woman is intentionally being drugged, she can't give her consent,

I think his reasoning was in your quote that he posted.

Do you also realize that nobody forces a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like?

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So is it that nobody can force a girl to fuck someone she does not like or is it obvious that sometimes women do not give consent but are fucked anyway?

[MiamiBoy1]

Wow. That's an incredible amount of stupid in just 2 paragraphs.

A stranger is a person a girl doesn't know. You might have skipped some of the embarrassment if you had stopped there. Sadly, when it comes to ridiculous shit, you're a densely populated city with a contaminated water supply. In other words, the shit is endless.

Girls see hundreds of guys every day who are still strangers. They pass them on the street, stand next to them on the Metro, ride in their taxi. It's crazy that you think just because a woman has laid eyes on a man he's no longer a stranger. Or if she's heard of him? Did you really type that, or did the idiocy fairy take over for you?

And just because she's met a guy doesn't mean he's no longer a stranger. Anyone who has ever talked to a woman knows that. Most of my single, female Facebook friends complain about that constantly. They'll meet a guy briefly and next thing the guy's hitting them up.

Actually, especially in more conservative countries, like Colombia, whether a girl fucks on the first date or fifth date is relevant, especially when you're paying her to fuck. Not many guys are going to pat a girl to not fuck for 4 dates, or however many it takes, before paying her to fuck. Unless she's a hoe:

1. She's almost certainly not fucking you on the first date. Chances are, the first date will be chaperoned by friends or relatives.

2. She's not asking guys to pay her for sex. Nor is she open to the possibility of you paying her for sex. If she feels that you are actually a couple, she may be willing to accept help with her bills, but that's well beyond the fifth date (unless she's a hoe).

Nobody forces a girl to fuck a guy she doesn't like? Honestly? It's like you just wrote the stupidest thing ever, said to yourself "nobody could be stupider than that" then said "hold my beer. ".

You've never heard of rape? Once again, if you had ever had a conversation with a woman (and she trusted you, and you weren't paying her for sex) you would almost certainly have heard about attempted rapes, friends who were raped, friends who were drugged by guys trying to rape them, or actual rapes.

No, rape aside, it is not called "consensual sex between adults" if 1 person is paying the other for sex. That's called prostitution. While the prostitutes can be selective on which customers they fuck, it's not "consensual sex. " There's an easy way to test this. Agree to pay a woman for sex. After the sex, refuse to pay her.

Most women (who are not prostitutes) don't sleep with guys because they like or trust them. There is an age bracket between around 35-45 where it's more likely, but outside of that, if they aren't prostitutes, they want something more, some type of connection or relationship, or at least the belief that it's heading in that direction.

Even if they did, a complete stranger asking to meet to determine whether he wants to pay her for sex, is not going to build trust, unless she's a prostitute.

You have stated repeatedly that you are seeking women who are in college or have jobs. You've also stated several times that you have to outbid the other guys to get their attention. So who says those things affect the allowance you're willing to give? Well, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but you do.

SW's? Run through Facebook girls? There you go again. It's as if you're not only a complete idiot, but that you insist on declaring the fact every fucking time. The last time I did a SW was probably 1989. Haven't done a Facebook girl for 3 or 4 years. Why would I? I've got literally thousands of contacts now, but I don't even bother with most of them. The 3 that I do now are my GF, a college girl and a business owner. I did pay the business owner for sex the first time. Covid shutdown had wiped out that business. I've never paid the other 2 for sex, although, I've spent money on all 3.

The GF took persistence and patience, combined with a certain skill I have. The same skill was crucial to landing the college girl, who has a fetish which I'm able to help her with. The business owner likes me and trusts me. Just wrote about her several weeks ago. She's the one who wanted a 3 some with her best friend.

I look forward to your next attempt to prove just how little you know.

How can you be so stupid? LOL. I said if she never met him in person or never heard of him. Do you consider riding a train full of strangers "meeting them in person?" Do you consider passing strangers on the street "meeting them in person"? Meeting in person, in the dating / mongering context, is going on a date with a purpose to get to know each other, spend some time together, have fun, and maybe have consensual sex after. Or getting introduced to someone by mutual friends or family, for example at a birthday party. Once they are introduced, they are no longer strangers. Once they meet for a date, even if it is just a simple coffee, they are no longer strangers. How long it will take to get laid depends on the chemistry and / or the agreed upon amount of money (sex has to be consensual, dumbass, p4 p or not). There is plenty of girls who would fuck on the first date without pay. There is no rule or law anywhere in the world that says sex has to happen no sooner than X days from initial meetup. You never fucked a girl in the club without even asking her name? Poor you.

And yes, idiot, nobody forces a girl to fuck a guy she doesn't like. You again brought this rape topic up, which has nothing to do with consensual sex between two adults. If it is rape, there is no consent.

"Most women (who are not prostitutes) don't sleep with guys because they like or trust them. There is an age bracket between around 35-45 where it's more likely, but outside of that, if they aren't prostitutes, they want something more, some type of connection or relationship, or at least the belief that it's heading in that direction. " - WTF is this BS? By this logic, your GF is a prostitute. Some type of connection or relationship between you and her is your fantasy. Most likely, she is either after a green card, or paid trips to the US, or some other benefit that she gets or will get, by sucking your old dick.

Speaking of Seeking college girls, or Tinder girls, or any other girls online. It is a numbers game, you are competing with other dudes, and the allowance that I'm willing to give doesn't depend on college degree or some normal job she has. I'm willing to give only what I'm comfortable giving. If other dudes are willing to give more, the chances of scoring are not in my favor, unless I bring something else to the table, which is not easy to do online.

Does your GF know about the other 2 you are screwing? LOL. A business owner (apparently, not so successful businesswoman that had zero savings to go through the tough times and turned into a hooker once her business got shut down?) Special skill? Do you eat a pussy so well that nobody can resist?

[MiamiBoy1]

This gem needs it's own reply. Actually it needs it's own thread. The opposite of links to posts of distinction.

You might not be old enough to remember this, and even if you are, you've shown repeatedly that you're incapable of remembering anything.

In 1992 one of the Kennedy cousins, William Kennedy Smith, was charged with rape. If I remember correctly, he was acquitted. He had gone on a date with a woman, I believe he hot her drunk and then fucked her. Apparently, the girl had no intention of having sex with him, but the alcohol had lowered her resistance.

The case was 1 of the first high profile cases for "date rape. " The defense claimed that her consensual actions showed willingness to fuck. The prosecution held fucking was beyond her level of consent and he had removed her ability to consent.

I bring this up because at the time I found myself in a similar situation.

My best friend had invited a guy who worked for him, and his girlfriend for dinner. He almost certainly intended to get everyone drunk and passed out so he could fuck her. He also invited me, to help get everyone shitfaced.

It didn't quite work out that way. Everyone got drunk and passed out, but she had no interest in him. That part was shocking, because he was a legend at getting girls to fuck. No scruples. He would introduce them to his wife, they'd become friends and every time the wife got drunk, he'd be in the next room fucking.

Once he figured out she wasn't going to fuck him and I wasn't going to pass out he went to bed. The next thing I know she's naked and all over me. She wanted to fuck, right then and there. However, all I can think of is the fact that she was drunk and the William Kennedy Smith case. What was going to happen when she sobered up? Fortunately, I was able to get her panties and a flannel shirt on her before she laid down on the couch, leaving me to sleep on the loveseat. Her boyfriend caused a scene in the morning, but she turned it around on him.

I put her off for 5 days before we started fucking, just to make sure.

There are many levels of consent. Of course, the goal is to overcome the objections and get the consent. However, if a girl is drugged or passed out, even if she wanted to consent, she can't.

I expected to get another stupid reply from you, but today you exceeded my expectations and posted 3 of them! Wow!

Prostitution IS consensual, do you know why? Because the man or woman must consent to have sex with you. Any hooker is free to decline service at any point. Maybe she finds you dangerous, obnoxious, unclean, etc. She is not a sex slave, and the fact that you pay her or not, doesn't obligate her to have sex with you. She has the right to return you the money and not provide any service. If there is no consent, then the sexual act is considered rape.

Why did you bring up the Kennedy case? The dude was not found guilty. It is obvious that if a woman is intentionally being drugged, she can't give her consent, and therefore, fucking a drugged woman might be considered rape if charges are pressed. Why are we even discussing this? Do mongers travel to a foreign country, where sex is cheap, and drug and rape women? Seriously? Again, you argue just for the sake of arguing, bringing up some weird exceptions. "There are many levels of consent" - wtf are you talking about? If one is of legal age, and is mentally capable of giving consent, it is either yes or no. Simple as that. But you, dumbass, are so dumb to understand this simple concept.

You have a very "unique" skill. You can find a pile of shit literally everywhere, on a fucking pool table, dive right into it and drown. Hilarious! LOL.

[Elvis 2008]

Do I need to know every plumber in NYC to figure how much it's going to cost to replace the wax ring on a toilet? Of course the answer is "Elvis is clueless again (or still). "

I can go onto a website and see the cost of a plumber repair. Where do I go to found out what % of college women are selling themselves? JJBeeisfullofshit.com?

I didn't meet her on Facebook. I covered all of that 3 years ago, and a few more times since then.

I don't pay for everything either. When we travel together, sure I pay. It's (IMO) part of being a man.

"Prostitution" is a crime where the individual accepts money or something of value in exchange for the expectation of having sex. You see, there is nothing in there about where you meet or if she pays for some of her stuff. Your definition of "being a man" meets the legal definition of being a john in spite of your desperate pleas to say otherwise.

And why is that? Why are you so desperate to say you are not paying for sex on a hooker forum?

[Gabacho]

Latest studies show that the transmission rate from the so-called vaccinated is higher than the non-vaxd, so I agree it can be dangerous to follow financially motivated and corrupt public health advice. If one understands the risks of refusing condom-use, its not irresponsoble to not use them. Its just a sign that one doesn't believe ant safety benefit exceeds the loss of pleasure. Thats how it was in the 60's, 70's, 80's, part of the 90's.

I totally agree 100% with you in respect to condom use, in fact you hit the nail on the head. The safety or protection that a condom provides does not make up for the loss of pleasure that it causes. It's not that I am being irresponsible by not using a condom, it is that for me it there is no value in using a condom. Now that being said there are other ways to protect against STIs. I like to use azythromycin once a week or once every 2 weeks this helps to keep any bacterial STIs (gonorrhea, syphilis, chlamydia, etc.) from presenting. In the case of viral STDs you have prep medications (Truvada, Biktarvy, Duvato, etc.) although those are much more expensive. However statistically speaking HIV passing from an unprotected heterosexual sex act (even if the female is infected and the male isn't) is extremely rare, it is much more likely you will contract gonorrhea or chlamydia or perhaps herpes than HIV. I believe on Wikipedia there is a chart that shows the actual percentages from actual studies that were done. Let me see if I can find it.

I found it and attached the screen shot. So as you can see HIV you have less than 1% chance of getting that from unprotected hetero sex, and that is if the woman is infected, if she's not then obviously the risk is 0% the most common things according to this chart are gonorrhea chlamydia and HPV. The first two of those are cured by azythromycin and HPV there is a vaccine called gardasil for that. So for me the risk of not using a condom doesn't outweigh the pleasure lost by using one. Capische?

[Gabacho]

The first hooker I ever fucked in Argentina did that and did it facing away from me. But, I could tell pretty quick, personally But she wasn't that good of a fellatrix. Later others did it better. But the thing about this first one, it had nothing to do with safety, because she would fuck raw dog. She just didn't like the taste.

To be abundantly clear for those with poor reading skills, the difference between not using condoms and not getting vaccinated is that the latter can affect innocent bystanders while the former cannot. It's a pretty important distinction and the two require vastly different public health policies.

Its the same shit you jack ass! Your body your choice! Now stop trying to have the last word, you're not impressing anyone with your stupidity.

[JustTK]

the difference between not using condoms and not getting vaccinated is that the latter can affect innocent bystanders while the former cannot. It's a pretty important distinction and the two require vastly different public health policies.

Latest studies show that the transmission rate from the so-called vaccinated is higher than the non-vaxd, so I agree it can be dangerous to follow financially motivated and corrupt public health advice. If one understands the risks of refusing condom-use, its not irresponsoble to not use them. Its just a sign that one doesn't believe ant safety benefit exceeds the loss of pleasure. Thats how it was in the 60's, 70's, 80's, part of the 90's.

[JjBee62]

Do you also realize that nobody forces a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like? Do you understand that she can be very selective and only sleeps with someone she likes or trusts, someone who meets her personal standards? P4 p or not, doesn't matter. This is called consensual sex between two adults.

This gem needs it's own reply. Actually it needs it's own thread. The opposite of links to posts of distinction.

You might not be old enough to remember this, and even if you are, you've shown repeatedly that you're incapable of remembering anything.

In 1992 one of the Kennedy cousins, William Kennedy Smith, was charged with rape. If I remember correctly, he was acquitted. He had gone on a date with a woman, I believe he hot her drunk and then fucked her. Apparently, the girl had no intention of having sex with him, but the alcohol had lowered her resistance.

The case was 1 of the first high profile cases for "date rape. " The defense claimed that her consensual actions showed willingness to fuck. The prosecution held fucking was beyond her level of consent and he had removed her ability to consent.

I bring this up because at the time I found myself in a similar situation.

My best friend had invited a guy who worked for him, and his girlfriend for dinner. He almost certainly intended to get everyone drunk and passed out so he could fuck her. He also invited me, to help get everyone shitfaced.

It didn't quite work out that way. Everyone got drunk and passed out, but she had no interest in him. That part was shocking, because he was a legend at getting girls to fuck. No scruples. He would introduce them to his wife, they'd become friends and every time the wife got drunk, he'd be in the next room fucking.

Once he figured out she wasn't going to fuck him and I wasn't going to pass out he went to bed. The next thing I know she's naked and all over me. She wanted to fuck, right then and there. However, all I can think of is the fact that she was drunk and the William Kennedy Smith case. What was going to happen when she sobered up? Fortunately, I was able to get her panties and a flannel shirt on her before she laid down on the couch, leaving me to sleep on the loveseat. Her boyfriend caused a scene in the morning, but she turned it around on him.

I put her off for 5 days before we started fucking, just to make sure.

There are many levels of consent. Of course, the goal is to overcome the objections and get the consent. However, if a girl is drugged or passed out, even if she wanted to consent, she can't.

[JjBee62]

Do you even realize that a stranger to a girl could be any person whom she has not met or heard of before? Once a girl meets a guy in person, they are no longer strangers. Whether they fuck on the first date, or 5th date, or a year later, is irrelevant. Do you also realize that nobody forces a girl to fuck someone she doesn't like? Do you understand that she can be very selective and only sleeps with someone she likes or trusts, someone who meets her personal standards? P4 p or not, doesn't matter. This is called consensual sex between two adults.

Also, how does the fact that she is in college or has a job, affect the allowance I'm willing to give? What it might affect is my desire to meet her again, if she is interesting enough. Or my desire to travel with her later on. And college girls or those with real jobs, are usually more interesting to me than an average brainless SW girl or some run through facebook girl that fucks guys for living.

Wow. That's an incredible amount of stupid in just 2 paragraphs.

A stranger is a person a girl doesn't know. You might have skipped some of the embarrassment if you had stopped there. Sadly, when it comes to ridiculous shit, you're a densely populated city with a contaminated water supply. In other words, the shit is endless.

Girls see hundreds of guys every day who are still strangers. They pass them on the street, stand next to them on the Metro, ride in their taxi. It's crazy that you think just because a woman has laid eyes on a man he's no longer a stranger. Or if she's heard of him? Did you really type that, or did the idiocy fairy take over for you?

And just because she's met a guy doesn't mean he's no longer a stranger. Anyone who has ever talked to a woman knows that. Most of my single, female Facebook friends complain about that constantly. They'll meet a guy briefly and next thing the guy's hitting them up.

Actually, especially in more conservative countries, like Colombia, whether a girl fucks on the first date or fifth date is relevant, especially when you're paying her to fuck. Not many guys are going to pat a girl to not fuck for 4 dates, or however many it takes, before paying her to fuck. Unless she's a hoe:

1. She's almost certainly not fucking you on the first date. Chances are, the first date will be chaperoned by friends or relatives.

2. She's not asking guys to pay her for sex. Nor is she open to the possibility of you paying her for sex. If she feels that you are actually a couple, she may be willing to accept help with her bills, but that's well beyond the fifth date (unless she's a hoe).

Nobody forces a girl to fuck a guy she doesn't like? Honestly? It's like you just wrote the stupidest thing ever, said to yourself "nobody could be stupider than that" then said "hold my beer. ".

You've never heard of rape? Once again, if you had ever had a conversation with a woman (and she trusted you, and you weren't paying her for sex) you would almost certainly have heard about attempted rapes, friends who were raped, friends who were drugged by guys trying to rape them, or actual rapes.

No, rape aside, it is not called "consensual sex between adults" if 1 person is paying the other for sex. That's called prostitution. While the prostitutes can be selective on which customers they fuck, it's not "consensual sex. " There's an easy way to test this. Agree to pay a woman for sex. After the sex, refuse to pay her.

Most women (who are not prostitutes) don't sleep with guys because they like or trust them. There is an age bracket between around 35-45 where it's more likely, but outside of that, if they aren't prostitutes, they want something more, some type of connection or relationship, or at least the belief that it's heading in that direction.

Even if they did, a complete stranger asking to meet to determine whether he wants to pay her for sex, is not going to build trust, unless she's a prostitute.

You have stated repeatedly that you are seeking women who are in college or have jobs. You've also stated several times that you have to outbid the other guys to get their attention. So who says those things affect the allowance you're willing to give? Well, I hate to be the one to break it to you, but you do.

SW's? Run through Facebook girls? There you go again. It's as if you're not only a complete idiot, but that you insist on declaring the fact every fucking time. The last time I did a SW was probably 1989. Haven't done a Facebook girl for 3 or 4 years. Why would I? I've got literally thousands of contacts now, but I don't even bother with most of them. The 3 that I do now are my GF, a college girl and a business owner. I did pay the business owner for sex the first time. Covid shutdown had wiped out that business. I've never paid the other 2 for sex, although, I've spent money on all 3.

The GF took persistence and patience, combined with a certain skill I have. The same skill was crucial to landing the college girl, who has a fetish which I'm able to help her with. The business owner likes me and trusts me. Just wrote about her several weeks ago. She's the one who wanted a 3 some with her best friend.

I look forward to your next attempt to prove just how little you know.