Stupid shit in Medellin

[MarquisdeSade1]

"Wow! There is an authority if I ever heard one. A marketing professor? For real? That's the best you got??

BTW welcome back. Did your mommy finally let you out of the cellar? After you were humiliated, when you were called out on your lies about visiting Colombia, we thought (and hoped) we would never see your ilk again. But I guess cockroaches are not so easily made to go away. ".

You pathetic loser.

Nice way to concede your severe intellectual inferiority jajajajajajajaaaaa.

Thanks so much for chiming in first!

Line up girls!

Keep up the great work Elvis!!

[JjBee62]

But his statement still hold some truth. What you said still depends on who that person is. A few years ago I was talking to my friend in his garage. He looked at his Lexus 400 and Mercedes 600 and told me what was he thinking buying the Mercedes. Another friend owned an AMG63 and she did not want to keep it either. The only reason she still had it at the time because it has depreciated so much in a very short time. That car is not at the Ferrai level but it was not a car that you can just walk in the dealership and drive it away either. Actually owning it and wanting it are two different things. I also have owned European car and I would not buy another one again for daily driver.

This is a regular I had from Scandallo in my apartment. 18, studies fashion design, speaks near perfect English. The reason I post her picture is because she made most of her own clothes, including the leather outfit in the picture which is what I want to show. I see her goes from a girl to a woman. She is more mature and elegant now. In my mind, she has a very bright future because she did everything she wants to do well.

I had a 19 yr old paisa that has a similar look, from a better family, never late for date but her growth path is completely different, going from low key to now posting more trashy videos on Facebook. She is one of the higher price ones and was very low key, very few pictures, and always fully dressed when I met her. The problem is that she studies nothing to improve her future.

The majority of these girls are not Ferraris.

A power couple (high stress, high income) were driving their Bentley on a 3 hour trip for a weekend getaway. The Bentley broke down and they had it towed to their mechanic. They picked up their Lotus, which the mechanic had just finished repairing, and restarted the drive. The Lotus broke down, within a few miles of where the Bentley broke down. I towed it to their mechanic, 1 hour away. He hadn't worked on the Bentley yet, so I towed the car another 30 minutes to their house. When we arrived they wanted me to move their Cadillac out of the garage (also broke down), so I could put the Lotus inside. After eating they were going to get in their old Dodge Ramcharger to try again, 7 hours after they started. They told me it was the only dependable car they owned.

Just because something is expensive, or in high demand, doesn't mean it's suited for its purpose.

[JjBee62]

Roughly 8000 Ferraris are made every year (0. 016% of all cars made). Some models are only available for purchase to current owners. For other models, there is a waiting list. Good luck getting one (even if you can afford it). Old models only increase in value, because they are collectibles.

How many 10's are there in MDE, that are single and ready to mingle? Not a whole fucking lot. Just like ferraris, some of them are only available to a small group of men, which you are not part of.

For the 50th time, 1-10 scale is subjective. The number of 10's and who are the 10's depends entirely on the person.

By "single and ready to mingle" do you mean "Willing to fuck strangers for money?

Old model Ferraris don't only increase in value. Most decrease in value, especially to the owners. The same is true for the vast majority of cars. It's also true for women. It's why most men who have had women (instead of only having hookers) develop a preference for hookers.

[Huacho]

All this ho / no-ho dilemmas can be easily tested -- will she keep fucking you if you won't pay or give any 'presents'?

Precisely. Similar to how in the Yew Ess many times job loss leads to divorce. It's really not a bad idea to assume all women are hos until proven otherwise.

[JjBee62]

DF is doing the work, spending the money, and getting elite women. Don Carlos is doing it. Miamiboy is doing it. Mr. E, SC, and JJbee are not, and they are pretending the women they have are elite.

According to DramaQueen, he's spending all his time weeding out women who don't even have computers and women who don't speak English and refuse to speak English (make that make sense). According to Mami'sBoy he's only getting women who are 7's on his 1-10 scale and his minimum acceptable is a 7. No idea what DonCarlos is doing, but 2 out of the 3 are, by their own admission, not getting "elite women. ".

On the other hand, MrE, SubCmdr and I are not guilty of claiming we have "elite women. " In fact, both MrE and myself have repeatedly asked you to define "elite women. " Your answers have been unhelpful, something about women who are in highest demand.

In your completely predictable and incredibly stupid way, you decided I was claiming my GF was elite because she lived in an estrato 4 neighborhood. You then repeatedly insisted your girl was estrato 6. I must have explained it to you 5 times that nobody in Colombia is estrato 6 (or 1-5). The estrato system defines neighborhoods by the median income of the residents. The estrato of the neighborhood determines utility subsidies and property taxes. Many people earning below poverty level live in estrato 5 and 6 barrios. Many people with high incomes live in estrato 2 and 3 barrios.

I am spending my time with my gal's friends now, and they are very impressive. If DF, MB, or Don saw them, they would be doing what it takes to land one.

Why would anyone want to "land one?" "Land one" is a fishing term. You catch one, eat it and then catch another. You don't keep it around forever.

I have seen DF's quality of woman. The hottest woman I have seen in Colombia was Kierra off of seeking. I had a bad date with her, and MB was PMing her the next day. Don Carolos beat me to a rich girl who was gorgeous wife material.

No girl on Seeking is wife material, unless your standards for a wife are incredibly shallow.

And where are you? Oh right. You are in lust with some hooker. I know what it takes to get the best women, and Nounce, you are not doing what it takes.

You've repeatedly stated that the only real way to have a relationship is to base it entirely on money. That makes it impossible to get the best women, at least by any standards which matter.

If you're just hiring a hooker, then absolutely, it needs to be based entirely on money. With a shallow definition of "best", spending the most money can get you the "best" women. Except "best" is entirely subjective. Why is that so hard to understand? DramaQueen thinks Mexico is the best and Colombia isn't. Does that mean Mexico is best for everyone? Some people here think Ferrari is the best car. Billions of people would disagree. What is the best movie? Best food? Best shoe?

It's impossible for you to know how to get the best women, because everyone has a different definition of who are the best women.

Meanwhile, Nounce is enjoying the women he's getting. That's all that matters.

[JjBee62]

The problem with your posts is that your answers are based on which side the posters in on. If dramafree were writing the same things, then it would be all praises.

Physical therapists are making millions of dollars in the US? I suppose the difference in pay over a 30-40 year career might be millions, but adjusting for cost of living wipes most of that out.

[JjBee62]

Bragging about what exactly? I never claimed I had a girlfriend (or multiple "girlfriends") in Colombia. I never claimed I could easily find and bang 9's and 10's, for free or p4 p. In fact, I have always been saying the opposite, about how difficult (but worth it) this journey has been for me. I never claimed I spent crazy amounts of money on women, nor fucked them for super cheap. Bragging about having high standards? This is not bragging, but merely an acknowledgment that I'm not interested in women below 7/10. Never claimed that I got women lined up wanting to fuck me as soon as I step foot on Colombian soil. So, wtf are you talking about? Aren't you the one portraying me as some loser because i can't get a 10, and only got a few 8's and 9's? Okay, if that's considered being a loser, I accept it. But then you have to treat others the same way. Anyone on ISG not willing to score 9s and 10s should also be considered a loser. So are you, with your stupid 0-1 scale. It's like saying a guy making $500k a year is a loser because his goal is to make $1m, but he can't achieve it just yet for whatever reasons. And it is funny if other guys trashing this $500k guy barely make $100k themselves.

No. I'm not portraying you as a loser because you can't get a 9 or 10. I'm pointing out that you're a loser because the most important thing to you is to tell everyone that you're only interested in 9's and 10's, and that they're somehow beneath you because they aren't looking for 9's and 10's. I'm pointing out you're a loser because after all this time you still can't grasp that the 1-10 scale is completely subjective, making your obsession with 9's and 10's meaningless. Finally, I'm pointing out you're a loser because many years ago I jokingly claimed the title of Master of the Obvious (because the acronym for my official position was MOTO), and not much is more obvious than your status as a loser.

And speaking of me insulting others. I could argue that cheap mfs, El Centro rats and some others, contribute to insults much more, especially when it comes to the money talk. Some dude in the Bogota thread recently said he paid 700 mil cop for 3 HR date and said it was well worth it to him. Immediately a bunch of losers crawled out and started trashing him for overpaying. Same shit happens in the medellin thread all the time.

So what? If I see some guy throw trash out of his car is it suddenly acceptable for me to throw trash too? I've always told people to pay what they're happy with. I might point out that they could get the same thing for less, but what they pay is their business. The same goes for the women each guy is fucking. Are you happy? Did you enjoy yourself? She might be the most beautiful woman, or the ugliest, if the other guy is happy that's all that matters.

Throwing back to your first paragraph, I did point out that "I've got women lining up wanting to fuck me as soon as I set foot on Colombian soil. " That's something everyone can do with very little effort. Build a solid friend list on Facebook or Instagram, be an active participant, post something to get their attention. When you post that you're in Medellin you'll be flooded with messages. It's something I demonstrated here a few years ago. I was flying to Bogota before going to Medellin. The flight passed Medellin just after sunset and I took a great picture of both the lights of Medellin and the fading sunset. Posted the pic and I think about 25 women messaged me within 48 hours. Easy stuff, although the photo was just lucky weather and timing. With around 2,000 prostitutes on my Facebook, it's not difficult to get the attention of several.

[Huacho]

I may be wrong, but I feel more like she is dependent on me for help and she isn't out there fucking a bunch of guys for money. What exactly do you call that?

I call it delusion on your part. At least you acknowledge you may be wrong.

[JjBee62]

You don't know much about cars if you think Ferrari isn't in demand. There are waiting lists for all their cars. They don't make enough of them and with the value of our money collapsing rich people are trying to put it into tangible things.

I'm too tired to go back and find out why there's a discussion about Ferraris. My assumption is that someone once again failed to understand the use of metaphor and decided that Ferrari is in some way comparable to some subset of women. It isn't.

There are several low production auto manufacturers, who sell anywhere from a few to a few thousand cars per year. Sure, there are buyers waiting for each one, but I'm not sure that qualifies as "in demand. " For most people the price tag is out of reach. For most who can afford one, whether a Ferrari, Bugatti, Lamborghini, McClaren, or any of the other brands, it's a waste of money. Almost all the buyers are people with more money than sense.

Many of those cars can only be repaired at the factory, which means shipping it overseas, waiting on repairs and shipping it back. Contrary to some beliefs, they do depreciate, unless they're stored, maintained and almost never driven, even then, the costs are usually more than the appreciation.

They're not suited for anything. They go fast, but there's no place where you can safely and legally reach top speed. They don't even help the owners to pick up hot women. With as much time as I spend on the road, I've seen a lot of them. They almost never have a sexy woman in the passenger seat.

The key difference between some Ferraris and some women is that none of the women go up in value. Depending on the car, keep it for 20 years and you might be able to sell it for a profit (after allowing for inflation and maintenance costs). Keep an 18 year old for 20 years and there's no way she's worth as much as you've spent on her.

[Elvis 2008]

Yes Elvis is our hero and we are all SO jealous of him too.

Do you even remember the government screaming about 3 and 4% mortality rates, and you were lecturing me about my predictions being off?

See this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDZQQGhKIBQ, do you know why Qatar and Singapore had less than 0. 1% mortality rates and other countries did not? It is because they were honest and other countries lied.

If your companion truly was "elite" what would she be doing slumming with the likes of you??

You answered your own question. We met during the pandemic when chicken shits like you locked themselves away afraid of a virus with a 0. 1% mortality.

This was the greatest opportunity to get prime pussy in a lifetime, and you blew it.

The thing about you V is you are such a narcissist that you disregard facts that show you are wrong. You cannot even remember when you told your friends that Medellin was safe and they got robbed.

You SHOULD be jealous of someone who had the balls to disregard the government's propaganda if you can remember facts. But with you V, all you choose to remember is the times you were right and whenever you are wrong, you just lie about it.

I didn't tell my friends Medellin was safe. Yeesh!

[Elvis 2008]

In this context, they are for sex, right? You are only selecting from a very small subset that is willing to trade sex for money but I will accept your definition in this context.

Sorry, Nounce, you are wrong. All women want rich guys. It has been proven. I said this on another forum in response to a guy who said, "Pay them nothing and see if they stay with you. " I said to him, "Don't shower for six months and see if she stays with you. " Showering is a minimum requirement to getting the best women as is being generous with them.

I don't have to spend 10 hours research to get woman when I can spend 10 hours to make money and spend only a fraction of that earned money and no time at all to get the woman I want, well, I need to spend time in Uber to get to and back haha. That is why I always said, you are paying for your own time, not for the girl.

You can have their pussy for 10 hours if you pay them, but until you have their brain and their heart, you are not going to have them and have the best sex. It is sad that you do not get that.

[Elvis 2008]

For one thing if she was a street girl she wouldn't be asking me to fuck her for help to buy her son his Christmas clothes. She would be out there making her money. And the way that she asks for help is different, she isn't just asking straight up for free money like how many of the prostitutes will. She is asking if she can come up to my place and earn the help I give her and instead of making up some bullshit story like her mom is in the hospital or this or that, she is actually telling me an honest reason why she needs the help.

I may be wrong, but I feel more like she is dependent on me for help and she isn't out there fucking a bunch of guys for money. What exactly do you call that? It may be a form of prostitution technically but it isn't the same as your everyday lleras or botero girl. Perhaps, it's the so-called semi-pro.

No, Gabacho, you are not wrong. Thing is Steve Jobs said it is harder to give money than to make it. It is like having kids. How do you give to them so that it makes their lives better versus being dependent? It is not easy. Women will learn to tell you what you want to hear to get money, and you have to be aware that you will be fooled. It is your reaction to it that is important. Are you going to be all sour grapes like Mr. E and declare you are never going to give money to anyone but hookers, or are you not gong to let the scam artists get you down?

Thing is when you engage women as human beings versus hookers there is a payoff much of the time. They will look at you like a person versus a trick. The next part is what you want in return. Is it just to be appreciated? Is it sexual? A lot of the time I had to teach women what I wanted. "I want you to have sex with me because I like you, and I will give you money because I like you, so it is not a strict exchange of money for sex. " It sounds like it is money for sex, but it is important that the women do not feel like hookers IMO.

Thing is that you will get to know them, and some if not most you will not like. Many are down not just due to bad luck but for a reason. What I found is the women had to be able to look long term and that meant white collar women or women training to be white collar in Colombia. Mexican women were different. I didn't see near the number of female scam artists there compared to Colombia. Maybe it can be different if you live there. I do not know.

There is this book about desire in the sex, The Evolution of Desire by David Buss, and yeah, women go for men with money (and this is the part Mr. E does not get) who are generous. That has been scientifically proven. You are not getting the best women if you are a tight wad.

So yeah, usually I could tell whether a woman wanted to be with me or my money, but at times, I was not sure. And that is when I learned to turn to other women. They know every angle, scam, or trick. My first SB was compared to a super model by her friends, and she had had it with her ex, and she wanted a new BF. So her friends take her to a bar, get the men she is interested in, and say, "Hey, she wants to talk to you. " And she was so hot, most men say yes. One guy comes to her and shows her a pic of his car, and she was totally unimpressed. She said, "So? Where is my car?" and sent him on his way. She was saying, "I do not care if you are rich. I want generous. ", and she literally did have a line of guys wanting to talk to her.

There is this Biblical passage on giving, "Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. ".

So yeah, I commend you on being generous Gabacho. I think it shows you got game. And I agree with the Biblical phrase, and you will be paid back if you give the right way. Just do not give what you cannot afford and know that if you are generous, you are going to be burned. Steve Jobs could not figure out how to give so do not think you are going to be perfect at it either.

[JohnnieCash]

Professional Trick sees every girl as a Ho.

All this ho / no-ho dilemmas can be easily tested -- will she keep fucking you if you won't pay or give any 'presents'?

SB is of course higher on the ho hierarchy than a street ho. But bigger wallet comes along and she's g-ho-ne.

Easy to test as well.

Doesn't mean the time together can't be enjoyed. Especially if one is the only client, service should be great.

But getting emotionally entangled with hos (of different shades / grades) isn't generally the best idea, although to each his own, it can be quite a ride.

[SubCmdr]

Well, I see all these quality in Mr E and JB. I don't know how you miss it. For the people that is on your good side, how well are their Spanish? I think Mr E,JB, Gobacho, and some others speak Spanish well. Doesn't that takes time and dedication for many of them? How about you?
Didn't JB said he spent a lot of time and work to know his girlfreinds? This is another example of you posting your opinion based on your opposition.

Of course they all are. Only in the mind of the "man who has left the building" are we all not accomplished men.

I see your point completely Nounce. Some will take my statement: Pussy is Pussy and see it as a negative. Those who do that are the ones that worship it, chase after it, travel to get it and get down on their knees and lick it.

Pussy is Pussy! It is not a negative. It plays right into the idea that: A man has to have a purpose.

In my opinion, chasing pussy is not a purpose, but a pleasurable activity. Personally, I fuck pussy. I spend time with pleasing personalities. That means exactly that. I when it comes to free pussy, if she is giving it away, I will fuck it. When it comes to paying for pussy I actually have standards cause it is going to cost me money. LOL! But when it comes to my time, that is the most precious thing that I have. If I am going to spend time with a girl she better be bringing something into my life that is way more valuable than pussy. This for the exact reason that you outlined here:

In this context, they are for sex, right? You are only selecting from a very small subset that is willing to trade sex for money but I will accept your definition in this context.
It does not require work to gain access to the woman if I have money, see my post to MB1. I just go to Scandallo in Sao Paulo, talk to the girl and pay her. She does cost more than what MB1 and DF1 said they usually paid. That is the nice thing about having money. LOL. I don't have to spend 10 hours research to get woman when I can spend 10 hours to make money and spend only a fraction of that earned money and no time at all to get the woman I want, well, I need to spend time in Uber to get to and back haha. That is why I always said, you are paying for your own time, not for the girl.

The highlighted portion of your post is pure genius. The one thing I would tell younger self:

"Catch them hos later, stay on your grind.

It is my old man advice to younger men. I would be so much richer had I just done this one thing in my life. But when I was young I did not value my time. If I had enough money, then I was chasing pussy.

Girls all over the world turn 18 everyday. They are all looking for a "come up". Unless they are lesbian they are looking for a man. I am smart enough to know I do not get girls at this point in my life because I am so handsome and intelligent.

Do not be delusional like the guy posting below. Unless this guy retired very early in life he is NOT in the position chronologically pull the girls he claims. To put it honestly: It's the money!

Okay, first thing, I didn't pay women who were not working girls the last year I was looking in Colombia. I paid for dates ETC but not direct cash, so you can lie about this all you want. Second, I paid for sex dumb ass just like you did. If it was not provided, the women were shown the door.
Giving money is part of the courtship period. Every big business showers potential hires with goodies and then they have to produce, and that is what I did.

If he is running with elite girls, why is he paying for sex? If he is paying for sex, what he being critical of in the next post:

And what do you tell this woman when you are abroad in Colombia, Dominica, Peru, and Thailand? You are out on business?

I would be interested in what he tells his elite girls he is doing when they are not giving him pussy and he is investing his time AND money into the effort.

Well my list goes: (Dis) United States of America, Dominican Republic, Colombia and Thailand. I wish to add Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos and South Korea. Someday when my girl in Thailand can get some vacation time off we are going to hope over to Japan (that is going to be a expensive trip. You see when you are not myopic then you bounce around the world. When you think differently then create different relationships yourself.

I had half a dozen women including the beauty queen who wanted to get serious with me. If it is all about money dumb fuck, then why did one of the women try to give me back the money I paid her?
Your bullshit claim is you can get the best without financial courtship, and that is a fucking joke and everyone knows it.
You got a woman so stupid that she wants to marry you while you are out fucking working girls all over the world. Wow, you are such a stud.

Seems that he has girls so stupid that they think he is not paying for average pussy while pursuing the elite pussy that he gets for free (while paying for "goodies" but no direct cash).

Cannot have it both ways? Not true! The man that has left the building certainly can! LOL!

[Villainy]

That is how Dummy always puts his foot in his mouth. I went to Brazil; I learned Portuguese language and Brazilian culture. I went to other Latin American countries; I learned Spanish and the cultures of those countries. I went to Thailand; I learned Thai and Thai culture. I did these things so that I could meet grown women who can take care of themselves and do not need a man to mooch off.

He shows up searching for hopeless, down on their luck, uneducated women, naming them as elite and offering to perpetually pay their rent, while claiming that as doing the work, building game, and bettering himself. If they were so elite and in demand then they would have had someone long before he came along. But let me guess: These elite women are also psychic and knew some Dummy begging to pay their rent would be along shortly.

Come on man. You're talking about Elvis! The man is a legend in his own mind. He knows an elite woman when he pays for her. OK OK the Vennie beauty queen that loved him long time, well long enough for him to pay to move her and her family to Peru. Oddly enough she fell out of love with him after that. But not to worry. Our hero. Yes Elvis is our hero and we are all SO jealous of him too. Well he found another amazing specimen in the "elite" pages of Seeking Arrangement. Turns out she was a 30 something washed up worn-out hooker with a teenage daughter but she is definitely elite. He stepped up to show how committed he was. He pays her monthly rent and expenses. And in appreciation for having an older, undereducated, obese slob of a man she even licks his ass on demand. Just imagine how he must love sucking tongue after that.

Well I guess I should just stop it. Afterall this is the Texas-Colombia version of Pretty Woman. Just one last thing Elvis. If your companion truly was "elite" what would she be doing slumming with the likes of you??