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11-28-23 17:28 #13705
"Yes, it's really bad when the people of a governor's own state don't even like him:
Ron DeSantis' Popularity Compared to Other Governors Is Abysmal.
Nov. 1, 2023.
Poll: Ron DeSantis among least popular Governors in America.
DeSantis popularity drops in Florida.
Nov. 17,2023.
Hmm. So loony Dr. Sachs who worked for non Democrat Bernie Sanders claimed to be a "lifelong" Democrat until the evil Dems somehow forced typically pro Repub Mainstream Media to largely ignore that conspiracy theory that actually Trump's Pandemic virus was created and leaked from a USA lab.
On Trump's watch.
The mind reels at the complexities. "
Yes dirtbag is going down and thankfully he won't be the nominee.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...mance-governor
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2023...0-years-early/
I can see all the TV ads now lololol anyone remember Willie Horton, I'm sure Michael Dukakis does LMAO and many tens of millions more. "
You can't handle nuance, so I understand complexities might confound you.
Thats why you see things so binary, GOP bad DNC good.
I can't imagine being so blind, wake up you're too old to be so ignorant.
And I would say the same thing to those anti American never Trump faux Gopers that would rather send all American jobs to CCPland.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...trump-in-2024/#text=Senate-,Romney%20 says%20 any%20 Democrat%20 would%20 be, upgrade'%20 over%20 Trump%20 in%202024&text=Sen. %20 Mitt%20 Romney%20 (R%2 the, term%20 for%20 former%20 President%20 Trump.
Fake GOPers like Romney that started Romney care that led to Obamacare.
Just a bunch of whoors / shills for the CCP. "
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...g-biden-trump/
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11-28-23 10:28 #13704
Well, no
MDS1 said:
Originally Posted by Paulie97
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No, that was not a non sequitur."However, unless Joe does step aside for whatever reason" However? LMAO.
Sounds like you are really praying for it LOL.
A perfect Democrat LMAO wow holy fuck you're hilarious.
Newsom? That turd destroying California. He isn't even popular there.
Actually, my response for who could or would replace a major Party frontrunner should that frontrunner drop out and their relative popularity was quite pertinent and logical to MDS1's apparent point:
1. MDS1 said nothing about the governor not being popular with particular Party affiliations, such as Dems, Repubs, Repubs pretending to be Independents and so on. Just "popular", as in among the people of his state. Therefore, the Party affiliation or demographics are irrelevant to his and my point.
2. Only one (1) sitting governor of a state has declared himself as a candidate for president; the governor of Florida. The governor of California has not.
3. Therefore, my citing the governor of Florida's tanking poll numbers in his own state (as well as in the Repub nomination race) is arguably more pertinent and logical to MDS1's apparent point regarding who could or would take over if the frontrunner drops out AND the questionable popularity of such a replacement if he were also a governor than his trotting out someone who isn't even a declared candidate.
See? Not a non sequitur.
Now, if I had responded to MDS1 trotting out the governor of California to make his apparent point with, say, "Oral sex is illegal in Florida", which it is, that would have been a non sequitur. Even though true.
Interesting that after Ultra Winger MDS1 has habitually quoted entire posts (badly) and responded to them with links to godknowswhat that aren't even related to the same Universe as the post topic he is responding to that you would cherry pick this one exchange to jump in to point out what you think, incorrectly, is a non sequitur.
LOL. Perfect.
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11-28-23 04:00 #13703
The Trumpian existential crisis for MSM? And Democracy?
Pretty good read! Originally Posted by EihTooms
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It's certainly an interesting development, though? Meaning, that MSM and the 4th estate, are certainly having a tough go at sustainability right now and dealing with a very real existential crisis of their own, while constantly coming under fire from Trump and ultra-far right.
So in the wake of Trump's constant loathing of the press, with threats to extinguish them, democracy and his enemies like "vermin", I'm not sure how they think they'll be omitted from said media carnage and blood bath. It certainly doesn't behoove them to promote their false equivalencies, bothsiderism and weak coverage of the real issues that Americans are concerned about.
Especially, in light of the success of the voting in the 2023 Election and Primaries, around the country, Americans are telling you want IS REALLY important to them.
Anyways, I'm not sure they're doing themselves any favors, literally writing themselves into oblivion, as democracy and their very existence, hangs in the balance, to a wannabe dictator, tyrant and fascist authoritarian, who will redefine news media, into some post apocalyptic nightmare from the Stone Ages, if elected.
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11-28-23 01:53 #13702
Coming any minute to Chicago NYC Denver Boston
https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/st...72962627379219
Thanks a million Dirtbag Joe, I mean 10 million more illegals flooding in.
The Great Replacement is the Wall St / WEF crowd goal.
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11-27-23 22:52 #13701
The mind reels at the complexities. , whose mind? I'm pretty sure yours is gone
"Yes, it's really bad when the people of a governor's own state don't even like him:
Ron DeSantis' Popularity Compared to Other Governors Is Abysmal.
Nov. 1, 2023.
https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desanti...ernors-1839827
Poll: Ron DeSantis among least popular Governors in America.
https://floridapolitics.com/archives...rs-in-america/
DeSantis popularity drops in Florida.
Nov. 17,2023.
https://www.politico.com/newsletters...antis-00127753
Hmm. So loony Dr. Sachs who worked for non Democrat Bernie Sanders claimed to be a "lifelong" Democrat until the evil Dems somehow forced typically pro Repub Mainstream Media to largely ignore that conspiracy theory that actually Trump's Pandemic virus was created and leaked from a USA lab.
On Trump's watch.
The mind reels at the complexities. ".
Yes dirtbag is going down and thankfully he won't be the nominee.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...mance-governor
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2023...0-years-early/
I can see all the TV ads now lololol anyone remember Willie Horton, I'm sure Michael Dukakis does LMAO and many tens of millions more. ".
You can't handle nuance, so I understand complexities might confound you.
Thats why you see things so binary, GOP bad DNC good.
I can't imagine being so blind, wake up you're too old to be so ignorant.
And I would say the same thing to those anti American never Trump faux Gopers that would rather send all American jobs to CCPland.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...trump-in-2024/#text=Senate-,Romney%20 says%20 any%20 Democrat%20 would%20 be, upgrade'%20 over%20 Trump%20 in%202024&text=Sen. %20 Mitt%20 Romney%20 (R%2 D,term%20 for%20 former%20 President%20 Trump.
Fake GOPers like Romney that started Romney care that led to Obamacare.
Just a bunch of whoors / shills for the CCP.
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11-27-23 22:29 #13700
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51% approval rating with a nice chunk on the fence isn't bad for Florida. Though the state is trending Republican it is still considered a swing state. There's a ton of Dems here. Comparing Ron's ratings to governors in ruby red and heavily democratic states is an invalid comparison that creates a non-sequitur. Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict...non%20sequitur
Plus he's no threat as Trump is going to be the nominee. You, Breitbart, and Info Wars can relax.
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11-27-23 20:28 #13699
Quintessential Dirtbag Joe
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11-27-23 18:44 #13698
Ah yes
You mean like Whatabout Gavin Newsom? And Whatabout Trump's Big Lie? And Whatabout California? LOL. Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1
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You seem to be in a desperate search for a "king. ".
We have one here in Thailand.
Envious much?
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11-27-23 07:20 #13697
The king of whataboutism strikes again
Yes, it's really bad when the people of a governor's own state don't even like him:
Ron DeSantis' Popularity Compared to Other Governors Is Abysmal.
Nov. 1, 2023.
https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desanti...ernors-1839827
Poll: Ron DeSantis among least popular Governors in America.
https://floridapolitics.com/archives...rs-in-america/
DeSantis popularity drops in Florida.
Nov. 17,2023.
https://www.politico.com/newsletters...antis-00127753
Hmm. So loony Dr. Sachs who worked for non Democrat Bernie Sanders claimed to be a "lifelong" Democrat until the evil Dems somehow forced typically pro Repub Mainstream Media to largely ignore that conspiracy theory that actually Trump's Pandemic virus was created and leaked from a USA lab.
On Trump's watch.
LOL. The mind reels at the complexities."
Yes dirtbag is going down and thankfully he won't be the nominee.
https://www.latimes.com/politics/sto...mance-governor
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2023...0-years-early/
I can see all the TV ads now lololol anyone remember Willie Horton, I'm sure Michael Dukakis does LMAO and many tens of millions more.
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11-27-23 03:07 #13696
Where is the Bothsides study?
Your links are not to studies of anything related to frequency of pro Repub (or Dem) spin in MSM headlines and front page of coverage. Or refuting it. Originally Posted by Tiny12
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They are to a long opinion piece based on anecdotal interview responses in an apparent desperate attempt to prove that lifelong Repub Mueller did not find indictable evidence of something he explained from the very beginning that he was not looking for and was not illegal anyway; Team Trump's extraordinarily intense and deep "collusion" with Russia in the 2016 election campaign.
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11-27-23 02:31 #13695
I assume Repub Chip Roy is still waiting for a convincing reply to his question.
Repub Chip Roy could just have well asked what Repubs have EVER done of significance for America when they controlled the Presidency, the House and the Senate, not just the Repub Pink Tinkle House over the past few months, and gotten the same utter silence I get here when I ask a similar question of anyone. Originally Posted by Spidy
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They momentarily buckled on their usual overriding Repub Party plan to destroy the economy and wipe out millions of jobs by "keeping the government open"? They pulled back on the Biden / Dem proposals that are always higher than they expect they can get as a matter of ordinary intelligent negotiation technique and thereby left it as only a 50-50 shot at America experiencing a soft landing vs a Great Recession in the wake of Trump's Great Repub Economic Disaster rather than a near 100% certainty? LOL. So impressive. Give them a trophy for that. Oh, then they shit-canned the Repub Squeaker of the Repub Pink Tinkle House for ruining their usual overriding Repub Party plan (see above) and replaced him with ChristoFacist Mike who is searching for every conceivable way to get back on track with that usual overriding Repub Party plan. Lolol.
Or, as typically pro Repub MSM would spin it, "handling the economy better than Democrats". Lolol.
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11-27-23 00:00 #13694The Republican House has done a great job in 2023. Remember the negotiations to raise the national debt ceiling back in May. The House Republicans managed to claw back $1.5 trillion over 10 years from the $5 trillion+ in spending legislated by Biden and Democrats in 2021 and 2022. Chip Roy's problem is that he believes they should have clawed back more. Fair enough, but $1.5 trillion is quite an accomplishment considering Democrats control the Senate and the Presidency. Originally Posted by Spidy
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I was watching CNBC last week, and Jared Bernstein, the chairman of President Biden's Council of Economic Advisors was expounding on the accomplishments of the President. Chief among them was saving $1 trillion through passage of the Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2023! This is the money that the Republicans clawed back! In other words, Biden's economic advisor is taking credit for something that got passed only because Republicans threatened not to increase the debt limit. Democrats were shouting Armageddon and now they're taking credit for the legislation! Unbelievable!
Anyway, Bill Clinton and Barrack Obama might have been crappy ass presidents, if Republicans hadn't controlled the House during their second terms, and played a similar role to House Republicans this year. Instead, Clinton will go down in history as a very good president, having balanced the budget, passed welfare reform, promoted free trade, and cut the capital gains tax, all thanks to Republicans. Maybe House Republicans will also help President Biden preserve his legacy, after two years of crappy ass results with one party rule.
The main stream media can't say Blacks or Whites or Jews or Muslims are psychopaths. And heaven forbid that they'd call Democrats psychopaths. But it's fine to call Republicans psychopaths. Originally Posted by Spidy
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The articles quote a study that came out of that great bastion of higher learning, the University of Southern Mississippi. They conclude that "Republicans surveyed had a small but statistically significant higher level of psychopathic traits than Democrats. ".
Well, the problem is that they only surveyed 164 Democrats, 85 Republicans and 55 independents. Notice how closely that correlates with the make up of the American electorate. And actually they didn't conduct the survey but rather outsourced it to Amazon's Mechanical Turk crowdsourcing consultancy. Gallup they ain't.
Now, "about 1.2% of USA Adult men and 0.3% to 0.7% of USA Adult women are considered to have clinically significant levels of psychopathic traits. " See.
https://www.apa.org/monitor/2022/03/...0%2 C%202020).
So among this sample of 304 people, being 157 females and 147 males, you'd expect to have 2 or 3 people who have clinically significant levels of psychopathic traits. How statistically significant is that? And somehow this study shows that Republicans have a "small but statistically significant higher level of psychopathic traits" than Democrats. I'm calling bull shit on this study, or rather the press' description of it.
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11-26-23 23:26 #13693 Originally Posted by EihTooms
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OK, the New York Times and the Washington Post are both Pro Democrat on their editorial pages. But true, they don't necessarily spout non stop Democratic Party propaganda in their other sections. They're not like MSNBC.
The Columbia Review of Journalism however has shown real gumption, telling both sides from time to time, for example in this excellent four part series about the Press' witch hunt to tie Trump to Russian collusion in the 2016 campaign. People like Elvis and the Marquis may enjoy it. And you should read it. It might broaden your views.
https://www.cjr.org/special_report/t...ent-part-1.php
https://www.cjr.org/special_report/t...ent-part-2.php
https://www.cjr.org/special_report/t...ent-part-3.php
https://www.cjr.org/special_report/t...ent-part-4.php
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11-26-23 06:59 #13692
How MSM sucker their Useful Idiot WingerPuppets into voting for their
beloved Repub candidates so they can reliably deliver the terrifying headlines they crave and need in order to sell more of their product and get wealthier:
The study linked (see below) in this report captures it well. However, I would add that typically pro Repub Mainstream Media ought not to just cite the "policies" of each Party and candidate in an election run for a change but also cite the many times that Party and its similar policies produced and presided over Great Depressions, Great Recessions, Massive Job Losses, etc "results" and none of the Great Recoveries, Great Expansions, Historic Job Gains, etc "results" over the past, oh, 100 years or so.
Report Confirms Major Newspapers Threaten Democracy: All Horse Race, No Policy.
When historians set out to determine why Donald Trump happened, from initial campaign to attempted coup to authoritarianism-premised comeback, the role of this nation's press will be hard to overlook
https://crooksandliars.com/2023/11/r...edia-threatens
https://www.cjr.org/analysis/electio...ront-pages.phpWhen historians set out to determine why Donald Trump happened, from initial campaign to attempted coup to authoritarianism-premised comeback, the role of this nation's press will be hard to overlook. In a piece published for the Columbia Journalism Review, five researchers who examined The New York Times' campaign coverage leading up to the 2016 presidential election returned to similarly examine the 2022 race.
We did expect, or at least hope, that in the years that followed, the Times would conduct a critical review of its editorial policies. Was an overwhelming focus on the election as a sporting contest the best way to serve readers? Was obsessive attention to Clintons email server really justified in light of the innumerable personal, ethical, and ultimately criminal failings of Trump? It seemed that editors had a responsibility to rethink both the volume of attention paid to certain subjects as well as their framing.
As any New York Times or Washington Post reader could likely tell you, the new results are just as dismal. Political coverage at even the largest and most consequential newspapers consists almost exclusively of horse race reporting and campaign gossip. Actual issue and policy examinations were nearly nonexistent.
After the 2022 midterms, we checked back in, this time examining the printed front page of the Times and the Washington Post from September 1, 2022, through Election Day that November. As before, we figured the front page mattered disproportionately, in part because articles placed there represent selections that publishers believe are most important to readersand also because, according to Nielsen data we analyzed, 32 percent of Web-browsing sessions around that period starting at the Times homepage did not lead to other sections or articles; people often stick to what theyre shown first. We added the Post this time around for comparison, to get a sense of whether the Times really was anomalous.
It wasnt. We found that the Times and the Post shared significant overlap in their domestic politics coverage, offering little insight into policy. Both emphasized the horse race and campaign palace intrigue, stories that functioned more to entertain readers than to educate them on essential differences between political parties. The main point of contrast we found between the two papers was that, while the Post delved more into topics Democrats generally want to discussaffirmative action, police reform, LGBTQ rightsthe Times tended to focus on subjects important to RepublicansChina, immigration, and crime.
By the numbers, of four hundred and eight articles on the front page of the Times during the period we analyzed, about halftwo hundred nineteenwere about domestic politics. A generous interpretation found that just ten of those stories explained domestic public policy in any detail; only one front-page article in the lead-up to the midterms really leaned into discussion about a policy matter in Congress: Republican efforts to shrink Social Security. Of three hundred and ninety-three front-page articles in the Post, two hundred fifteen were about domestic politics; our research found only four stories that discussed any form of policy. The Post had no front-page stories in the months ahead of the midterms on policies that candidates aimed to bring to the fore or legislation they intended to pursue. Instead, articles speculated about candidates and discussed where voter bases were leaning. (All of the data and analysis supporting this piece can be found here.)
If one set out to design a national press that would be most conducive to undermining democracy, you could hardly do better. In focusing on horse race coverage, campaign speculation, and the superficials of each race, the actual policy differences between each candidate are brushed aside.
Even when the race features a conventional political figure paired against a coup-attempting alleged felon whose policy prescriptions call for the restructuring of government into a one-party, authoritarian-premised tool determined to bend the nation's laws in unprecedented waysas the 2024 presidential race will likely have itthe public cannot exercise its democratic rights if those differences are intentionally hidden from them. In ignoring the policy differences between each and every pairing of candidates, the nation's press is hiding the stakes of each election. It is hiding the most existential of policy debates in darkness, shining a light instead only on candidate sound bites, gaffes, and infighting.
In particular, the researchers call out the journalistic fiction of "objective" reporting. "What appears in a newspaper is less a reflection of what is happening in the world than what a news organization chooses to tell about what is happeningan indicator of values," they write. And they emphasize that the papers are not being inaccurate in their reporting, but that coverage is "misleading" nonetheless.
On any given day there are many accurate and arguably newsworthy stories that could appear on a front page. (In our study period, the overlap in front-page-story selection at the Times and the Post was only about a third.) Which topics editors choose to emphasize is neither accurate nor inaccurate; they simply reflect subjective opinions. Likewise, the way an article is written also involves a series of choiceswhich facts are highlighted, whose voices are included, which perspectives are given weight. Words such as objectivity and independenceeven truthmake for nice rhetoric but are so easily twisted to suit ones agenda as to be meaningless.
Democracy is premised on an electorate that knows what they are voting for and can make rational decisions about which of multiple approaches is best. Campaign coverage is flashy, but its valueless to voters. It emphasizes politics as sporting event. It may be pleasing to follow for interested partisans, but is worse than valueless for voters seeking to understand the sometimes-critical policy decisions they are expected to vote on. By emphasizing candidate claims and counterclaims and broadcasting potentially deceptive arguments as far and widely as truthful ones, the front pages do damage to democracy and readers both.
There has never been an American election in which the would-be beneficiary of an attempted coup came back, upon losing, to call for the indictment and imprisonment of his political foes, mass deportations and an end to birthright citizenship, and a purge of government to ensure only partisans loyal to himself can remain. It is a fascist manifestoand you would not know it from the front pages, whose editors find such dangers to be no more important than whether his opponent is old, or analyses of how voters in Iowa are reacting to various campaign pitches.
It is dreadfully dangerous. This is how democracies die.
And the free press, as those same editors should know perfectly well, cannot itself survive in a nation that has decided it is addicted to the flash of political upheaval but indifferent to its consequences.
https://github.com/jennyw23/2022AgendaSetting
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11-25-23 20:20 #13691
Yes, it will be up to Biden. As it will be up to Trump.
Yes, it's really bad when the people of a governor's own state don't even like him: Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1
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Ron DeSantis' Popularity Compared to Other Governors Is Abysmal.
Nov. 1, 2023
https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desanti...ernors-1839827
Poll: Ron DeSantis among least popular Governors in America.
https://floridapolitics.com/archives...rs-in-america/
DeSantis popularity drops in Florida.
Nov. 17, 2023
https://www.politico.com/newsletters...antis-00127753
Hmm. So loony Dr. Sachs who worked for non Democrat Bernie Sanders claimed to be a "lifelong" Democrat until the evil Dems somehow forced typically pro Repub Mainstream Media to largely ignore that conspiracy theory that actually Trump's Pandemic virus was created and leaked from a USA lab.
On Trump's watch.
LOL. The mind reels at the complexities.
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