Seeking Arrangements

[AmericanPi]

Shayla Home girl USA. Been at it almost two years now. I pay her apt and she acts as my GF. Simple as that..

I have to say, this seems a little more tethered to reality. I think you're acknowledging she acts as your girlfriend in exchange for something of monetary value. There's no judgment in that. In fact I think it's better because you turn it off at any time by changing the transaction circumstances. But it is nice to see you aren't delusional after all my friend.

[The Cane]

I guess for me, I just can't justify paying hundreds of dollars a month to try and find the proverbial "needle in a haystack". For me, paying that kind of money just to spend hours flipping through and having 2 minute conversations with morons, only hoping I'm going to find a gold mine, doesn't seem like a good value proposition.

Hitting a nail on the head! If there's somebody who feels it's worth it to throw money away like that, then hell they better stay away from the casinos LOL!

[The Cane]

Sure we all like the point and click of Thailand Germany and Brazil. But we don't live there.

So you are saying there is a much better alternative in the US? Please share.

And I guess I would say the GPS problems with entitled white girls is a US problem, not a Seeking problem. We have fucked our sex culture here in the US and Im not sure it can be fixed. Thank god white girls are not my thing. Tho I have an ISG friend who has been having quite some success on Seeking w the white girls recently. But he like me doesnt mind or even enjoys sifting through the buffet of bullshit to find the one or two gems. If its not ur thing, thats cool too.

Why is it that if VanessasClient says it sucks and points out why you respond "all true"? But if I say it you start coming across as kind of defensive? At least that's how it seems to me. You spend a lot of time talking about that 0. 01%. What about the other 99.99% (and all the fatties and the no shows you told me about)? If you spent more time talking about that, then people would get the full picture. That's what would be fair and square. Well, I guess there's me and whoever else to do that. I was on the site for just a short time and bared it all. The good, the bad, and the ugly. From the super high (1) to the super lows (so many most not even mentioned). And my real experience really proves what you yourself admit. That 99.99% of the time Seeking sucks!

If you're a betting man and / or somebody with a busy schedule, you pass as it's not worth your time (and money). Maybe we don't all live abroad (some of us do), but that's not a reason to then go and waste time and money on Seeking. As I always remind people, life is far more than either / or propositions. I don't need to live abroad to do my thing, and I don't have to accept dealing with Seeking either. I'm quite happy to take trips abroad, which hopefully will become more frequent with time. I realize that's an option that I have that other people don't. So maybe they feel like Seeking is their only or best choice, and that's fine. But, they need to know (and accept) the full truth about it. That 99.99% of the time it's going to suck, and decide whether they want to put up with the knee-deep bullshit or not. The truth. It can set you free.

[VanessasClient]

All true. But buried in this massive pile of bullshit are amazing gems who make it totally worth it. Like:

Alexa. Vegas. Amazing Italian black Filipina mix. Just a regular girl trying to get extra cash on the side, doing something she likes. Having great dinners and great sex. (Me too!) met up twice in Vegas. Hit it off. Flew her to Miami. Had an amazing time. Repeated a couple more times in Vegas. Gorgeous. Smart. Nice person. Truly feel thankful to have known her.

Kayla Miami. Gorgeous black girl. Spent many weekends with her. Top notch.

Megan. NYC. Amazing Viet / Korean mix student. Never done it before or since. Amazing one time date that was just exceptional because she was such a babe in the woods. Unbelievable that I could share this experience.

Sue London. Black Italian mix. Sharp as a tack legal student. And hot to boot. Great times in London and the Mediterranean.

Shayla Home girl USA. Been at it almost two years now. I pay her apt and she acts as my GF. Simple as that.

These are just a few of the amazing experiences I've had. And others here have experienced likewise.

So you are 100% right. It's 99.99% BS. And. 01% pure gold. Wouldn't trade it for anything.

I guess for me, I just can't justify paying hundreds of dollars a month to try and find the proverbial "need in a haystack. " I mean look at the subscription fee to this site, it's $25 a year. Even membership on *** is not over $100 a month. For me, paying that kind of money just to spend hours flipping through and having 2 minute conversations with morons, only hoping I'm going to find a gold mine, doesn't seem like a good value proposition By the way, everybody talks about finding girls on FB. How exactly does one search for chicas on there? What kind of criteria is typically used?

[Steve 9696]

What about using it in the States? You're talking about in Mexico. I think the overwhelming majority view here is that it sucks big time in the States.

And what about the white girls? What if you like fucking white women? In any case, a 99.99% fail rate is totally unacceptable to me, as it typically would be with most anything in life. Not worth my time. I'd rather monger where it's all turned around with a 99.99% chance of success in getting what I want. When I want it.

Sure we all like the point and click of Thailand Germany and Brazil. But we don't live there.

So you are saying there is a much better alternative in the US? Please share.

And I guess I would say the GPS problems with entitled white girls is a US problem, not a Seeking problem. We have fucked our sex culture here in the US and Im not sure it can be fixed. Thank god white girls are not my thing. Tho I have an ISG friend who has been having quite some success on Seeking w the white girls recently. But he like me doesn’t mind or even enjoys sifting through the buffet of bullshit to find the one or two gems. If it’s not ur thing, that’s cool too.

[The Cane]

My experience is totally different. I am having the best time of my life. I am CDMX at this moment having a drink waiting for a beautiful woman. What could be better.

What about using it in the States? You're talking about in Mexico. I think the overwhelming majority view here is that it sucks big time in the States.

All true. But buried in this massive pile of bullshit are amazing gems who make it totally worth it. Like:

Alexa. Vegas. Amazing Italian black Filipina mix. Just a regular girl trying to get extra cash on the side, doing something she likes. Having great dinners and great sex. (Me too!) met up twice in Vegas. Hit it off. Flew her to Miami. Had an amazing time. Repeated a couple more times in Vegas. Gorgeous. Smart. Nice person. Truly feel thankful to have known her.

Kayla Miami. Gorgeous black girl. Spent many weekends with her. Top notch.

Megan. NYC. Amazing Viet / Korean mix student. Never done it before or since. Amazing one time date that was just exceptional because she was such a babe in the woods. Unbelievable that I could share this experience.

Sue London. Black Italian mix. Sharp as a tack legal student. And hot to boot. Great times in London and the Mediterranean.

Shayla Home girl USA. Been at it almost two years now. I pay her apt and she acts as my GF. Simple as that.

These are just a few of the amazing experiences I've had. And others here have experienced likewise.

So you are 100% right. It's 99.99% BS. And. 01% pure gold. Wouldn't trade it for anything.

And what about the white girls? What if you like fucking white women? In any case, a 99.99% fail rate is totally unacceptable to me, as it typically would be with most anything in life. Not worth my time. I'd rather monger where it's all turned around with a 99.99% chance of success in getting what I want. When I want it.

[NapataJohn]

. I had a wing man one time and the guy turned out to be a drunk and an overall disaster. .

You for sure do not need a wingman.

[Steve 9696]

It makes plenty of sense, but with my experience using Seeking, nearly all the girls I communicated with on there were some of the most arrogant cum dumpsters I have ever come across. I can't think of another setting where I've found more insolent idiots as that, anywhere from the office at work, to the cashier at the grocery store, I don't think I've ever seen a group of women as bad as I encountered from Seeking.

All true. But buried in this massive pile of bullshit are amazing gems who make it totally worth it. Like:

Alexa. Vegas. Amazing Italian black Filipina mix. Just a regular girl trying to get extra cash on the side, doing something she likes. Having great dinners and great sex. (Me too!) met up twice in Vegas. Hit it off. Flew her to Miami. Had an amazing time. Repeated a couple more times in Vegas. Gorgeous. Smart. Nice person. Truly feel thankful to have known her.

Kayla Miami. Gorgeous black girl. Spent many weekends with her. Top notch.

Megan. NYC. Amazing Viet / Korean mix student. Never done it before or since. Amazing one time date that was just exceptional because she was such a babe in the woods. Unbelievable that I could share this experience.

Sue London. Black Italian mix. Sharp as a tack legal student. And hot to boot. Great times in London and the Mediterranean.

Shayla Home girl USA. Been at it almost two years now. I pay her apt and she acts as my GF. Simple as that.

These are just a few of the amazing experiences I've had. And others here have experienced likewise.

So you are 100% right. It's 99.99% BS. And. 01% pure gold. Wouldn't trade it for anything.

[DramaFree11]

It makes plenty of sense, but with my experience using Seeking, nearly all the girls I communicated with on there were some of the most arrogant cum dumpsters I have ever come across. I can't think of another setting where I've found more insolent idiots as that, anywhere from the office at work, to the cashier at the grocery store, I don't think I've ever seen a group of women as bad as I encountered from Seeking.

My experience is totally different. I am having the best time of my life. I am CDMX at this moment having a drink waiting for a beautiful woman. What could be better.

[VanessasClient]

P411 and Seeking are just two completely different experiences with different types of girls and different expectations. For those not familiar, P411 is a registration service for pros and John's. They verify your ID and employment and then you have access to browse hookers in any city. They claim to not retain your personal information but who knows. I used it successfully for a few years in the US before finding Seeking. But it's 100% pros and hourly rates.

Seeking is NOT a hooker registration service. It's more like online date matching service but with money exchanged. In other words, you can't just point and click and pay (at least in US where I assume you are from). I consider it like an online pickup bar. You have to play the game and have some game to have success. The best girls imo are not full on pros and won't just go with anyone for $$ (Tho there are plenty of pros also). It's a dance and you have to play it that way.

Unfortunately it is also prone to scamming. Any girl that asks for money before a meetup or to meetup platonically should be ignored / blocked. And be prepared if you get into a conversation and land a girl to treat it more like a date. Yes some girls will just go to the room and fuck. But the fun part for me is treating it like a true date with dinner or drinks and natural progression to the room. (And yes, they can decline to go to the room with you but you are only out your time and dinner; never pay them anything for this sex fail). At first you might have a moderate fail percentage but you will get better and better.

Of course the upside to Seeking is not only the real world experience but also it is NOT hourly. A typical date might be 3-4 hours and $500 USD if you do the homework and find the right girl. I've also had girls stay overnight for that same amount or less - it's up to them - very non hooker like.

So they are two very different things. P411 enables safe booking of a hooker in the USA which is no small feat. Seeking enables hooking up with a non or semi pro on a "real life date scenario" with a flat fee on the backend of the date if it ends with sex. Make sense?

It makes plenty of sense, but with my experience using Seeking, nearly all the girls I communicated with on there were some of the most arrogant cum dumpsters I have ever come across. I can't think of another setting where I've found more insolent idiots as that, anywhere from the office at work, to the cashier at the grocery store, I don't think I've ever seen a group of women as bad as I encountered from Seeking.

[Gfefan]

No one. Not even my best friend knows about my secret life.

I am not worried about them knowing and judging me. They can do what they want. And I can do what I want.

But yes, I have a loving wife and do not want to mess that up. So, secrets die with me and my ISG brethren here.

Even my closest friends don't get the scoop.

As Benjamin Franklin said, two people can keep it secret as long as one of them is dead.

[Steve 9696]

I see this forum is very active, but for me Seeking is one of the worst experiences I've ever had in this industry. The subscription fee for a month is about the same price as a P411 subscription for a year. Plus I found most of the girls to be extremely obnoxious, and demanding money before even communicating. Maybe I was doing things wrong.

P411 and Seeking are just two completely different experiences with different types of girls and different expectations. For those not familiar, P411 is a registration service for pros and John's. They verify your ID and employment and then you have access to browse hookers in any city. They claim to not retain your personal information but who knows. I used it successfully for a few years in the US before finding Seeking. But it's 100% pros and hourly rates.

Seeking is NOT a hooker registration service. It's more like online date matching service but with money exchanged. In other words, you can't just point and click and pay (at least in US where I assume you are from). I consider it like an online pickup bar. You have to play the game and have some game to have success. The best girls imo are not full on pros and won't just go with anyone for $$ (Tho there are plenty of pros also). It's a dance and you have to play it that way.

Unfortunately it is also prone to scamming. Any girl that asks for money before a meetup or to meetup platonically should be ignored / blocked. And be prepared if you get into a conversation and land a girl to treat it more like a date. Yes some girls will just go to the room and fuck. But the fun part for me is treating it like a true date with dinner or drinks and natural progression to the room. (And yes, they can decline to go to the room with you but you are only out your time and dinner; never pay them anything for this sex fail). At first you might have a moderate fail percentage but you will get better and better.

Of course the upside to Seeking is not only the real world experience but also it is NOT hourly. A typical date might be 3-4 hours and $500 USD if you do the homework and find the right girl. I've also had girls stay overnight for that same amount or less - it's up to them - very non hooker like.

So they are two very different things. P411 enables safe booking of a hooker in the USA which is no small feat. Seeking enables hooking up with a non or semi pro on a "real life date scenario" with a flat fee on the backend of the date if it ends with sex. Make sense?

[FilthyBeaver]

To quote Han Solo, "Women always find out the truth, always. " I'll leave it there.

I think you are being too paranoid. We all post here anonymously, no real names given. You can always change the dates a little bit, or don't specify the dates at all. It would be pretty much impossible for your family or acquaintances to connect the dots and figure out it was you. There will be no direct evidence pointing at you. Also, chances are they are not even on ISG or never heard of it. I'm not encouraging you to post anything at all if you are too concerned. But posting at a later date doesn't make much sense.

[The Cane]

But posting at a later date doesn't make much sense.

I've done that a lot over the years actually. You just never know who's reading. You can't be too careful if you ask me. People do dumb things and will drag you down into their shit just by association. So, I'm not quick to befriend anybody who I meet from mongerdom either. I had a wing man one time and the guy turned out to be a drunk and an overall disaster. Never again! I haven't trusted anybody from my "regular" life with this, and again I'm not going to be changing that in the foreseeable future.

[MiamiBoy1]

I LOVE talking about my exploits. Like everyone there are tiers of people in my life, parents, other family, friends, acquaintances, etc. I play poker with a group of guys that I only know through a friend. I'm the youngest guy at the table by 14 yrs or so. None of these people knows anybody else in my life except for my friend who introduced me to them. I can't wait to tell them what I'm up to when we play. Some of them think I'm full of shit and frankly that's most of the fun. Let them think what they want. The point is I'm happy, they all wish they could do what I'm doing and either don't want to admit it, are afraid to, or are no longer able to!

I think you are being too paranoid. We all post here anonymously, no real names given. You can always change the dates a little bit, or don't specify the dates at all. It would be pretty much impossible for your family or acquaintances to connect the dots and figure out it was you. There will be no direct evidence pointing at you. Also, chances are they are not even on ISG or never heard of it. I'm not encouraging you to post anything at all if you are too concerned. But posting at a later date doesn't make much sense.