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  1. #65
    I got many really good times, some even really outstanding higher level than at Globe, but on this Friday visit, disappointing casting, so, only entry 30 , garden with swimming pool but too cold, 3 times diner and 2 hot chocolates, but 0 room for my desire. Germans who can be sometimes found were missing. Nightmare to reach on autobahns with works everywhere.

  2. #64
    Still one of the better clubs in NRW in my opinion. Service is reliably not GFE but most girls give solid effort for good hooker sex / PSE. One of the larger line ups with lots of natural girls. Average girl is probably only a 6 out of 10 but you will find a few eights. Compared to a club like Sharks, the optic does not compare. At the same time, there are less fat girls.

    Food is repetitively the same Turkish mix, bbq, or packaged fried items and chicken wings.

    Facilities are cheap but seating is abundant and comfortable. Sauna is lacking with only one outdoor sauna.

    Nice that they don't restrict cell phones so you can dick around on your phone on the wifi between rooms.

    Cheap 50 e will keep me coming back.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Well the background is that my ISG buddy Andy (now awol) liked to fuck girls on his knees. Her in mish pillow under her butt. I didn't see this position in the standard sex positions sites (don't look too hard I suppose) so I called it the Andy.

    That is how the Steve came to be. A position I kinda just invented one day (new to me!) and there didn't seem to be a name for it. So I called it the Steve. Standing at side of bed her on her back at edge of bed. Feet spread or over shoulders. Can fuck forever this way and can lean in and make out also. One girl recently told me it's called Stand and Deliver. Which makes sense.

    Steve 2 is another fave and I def don't know a name for this. On your knees near her face. She turns a bit sideways on her back to BJ you. And you finger her. BJ while fingering is so epic. Steve 2 is a personal fave.
    Solid position. Big fan. From there, it's a good transition if she lowers her legs and wraps around your waist to draw you closer. I like to also grab her hands / forearms to bring her back after each thrust. Also easier to cum on tits / face from these positions since there is no delay from fucking so you don't have to use your hands to finish.

  4. #62

    Stand and Deliver?

    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    What is the Steve position?
    Well the background is that my ISG buddy Andy (now awol) liked to fuck girls on his knees. Her in mish pillow under her butt. I didn't see this position in the standard sex positions sites (don't look too hard I suppose) so I called it the Andy.

    That is how the Steve came to be. A position I kinda just invented one day (new to me!) and there didn't seem to be a name for it. So I called it the Steve. Standing at side of bed her on her back at edge of bed. Feet spread or over shoulders. Can fuck forever this way and can lean in and make out also. One girl recently told me it's called Stand and Deliver. Which makes sense.

    Steve 2 is another fave and I def don't know a name for this. On your knees near her face. She turns a bit sideways on her back to BJ you. And you finger her. BJ while fingering is so epic. Steve 2 is a personal fave.

  5. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]

    I think we do much of the same but throw in some of the [Steve position for variety. Very nice. It's so hard to decide what is best. Cowgirl with amazing tits. Doggie with amazing ass. Mish with amazing pussy feel and intimate face to face, or the Steve wiith her legs up in the air on my shoulders and driving deep and hard.
    What is the Steve position?

  6. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    I meant for girls I roomed with, coming to me to repeat, at Penelope or GG or Bruggen before, or even Gold, not to marry, when I will make a break when I was asked a embarrassing question on this week end. I agree, I hate when not pretty come to me, finding this a bit insulting and sometimes killing my mood.
    Sure, but that's pretty standard even at non-approach clubs. Girls don't approach most customers but if they know you from before, it is different, especially if you are there often. Even the ones I don't go to room, if they see me enough, they say Hello. Normal human behavior. If a girl recognize a monger from previous rooms and as long as his crotch didn't smell like onions, she would likely approach him at non approach clubs. It's not a matter of "liking" a customer, it is just that she remembers the customer and he did not make her vomit.

    But for the purpose of this paid sex forum, the typical monger visiting this club should expect the girls to not generally approach or hunt. Maybe a Hello, or a come hither eye glance, but not girls hunting like in Hessen. And since girls don't approach most guys, a visitor does have to worry about as much about the poor ratio at these clubs because girls will be free since they do not hunt as much and rooms are generally shorter.

  7. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    I suppose if in a regular social environment, I would find it a flattering, ego boost for women to come to me. At a hooker club, I think them not bothering me until I ask for their company preferable. When the ugly older, German woman at Penelope keeps triying to talk to me, it gets pretty annoying.
    I meant for girls I roomed with, coming to me to repeat, at Penelope or GG or Bruggen before, or even Gold, not to marry, when I will make a break when I was asked a embarrassing question on this week end. I agree, I hate when not pretty come to me, finding this a bit insulting and sometimes killing my mood.

  8. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    When they like you, girls come to you at Penelope or even Gold.
    I suppose if in a regular social environment, I would find it a flattering, ego boost for women to come to me. At a hooker club, I think them not bothering me until I ask for their company preferable. When the ugly older, German woman at Penelope keeps triying to talk to me, it gets pretty annoying.

  9. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    Nothing to add as I share the same sentiment. Girls don't approach so overall there are less rooms taken than compared to the tourist clubs. Also not many guys taking long rooms, although noticeably more with the arrival of clients from Holland and Belgium. I've made 20 or so visits there and have generally been able to room with my top 3 targets. The only time I haven't were with a German who works very part time and the other day when Adella was booked for the entire night. Not bad since I really only find about 3 targets per visit.
    When they like you, girls come to you at Penelope or even Gold.

  10. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    EA has more experience there than me but during my four visits my observation was there are a ton of bearded middle eastern looking dude there. Maybe a 2 or 3 to one guy to girl ratio. BUT they are not taking a lot of rooms. I never had any issue grabbing the hottie I wanted and the guys were generally friendly and a nice laid back party atmosphere. Actually prob my fave FKK oddly. And all four girls were good to great.
    Nothing to add as I share the same sentiment. Girls don't approach so overall there are less rooms taken than compared to the tourist clubs. Also not many guys taking long rooms, although noticeably more with the arrival of clients from Holland and Belgium. I've made 20 or so visits there and have generally been able to room with my top 3 targets. The only time I haven't were with a German who works very part time and the other day when Adella was booked for the entire night. Not bad since I really only find about 3 targets per visit.

  11. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]
    Excellent report, EA. Love all the details. There should defintively be more reports from the NRW.

    Two questions:

    1. What's the F / M ratios like during a week?

    2. Hot much more clothings compared to the Hessen FKK clubs?
    EA has more experience there than me but during my four visits my observation was there are a ton of bearded middle eastern looking dude there. Maybe a 2 or 3 to one guy to girl ratio. BUT they are not taking a lot of rooms. I never had any issue grabbing the hottie I wanted and the guys were generally friendly and a nice laid back party atmosphere. Actually prob my fave FKK oddly. And all four girls were good to great.

  12. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, agreed that Penelope is better than Gold for me also. Same with late line up arrival. If you arrive at 4 pm, you can see the bulk of the line up start arriving with the last hitting the floor as late as 8 pm. That said, the pro of Gold over Penelope is that the former makes for a better visit if visiting early in the day as there are around 20 girls by 2 pm where at Penelope, there may only be 10 total girls with 5 already in rooms. Also if someone is not willing to go an extra 45 minutes to an hour by car from Dusseldorf to almost Dortmund, Gold might be a more practical. Also at Gold, you will find more girls who are free as several former Goldentime and Dutch customers have settled there, sometimes taking Goldentime style long rooms.

    Alas, most people should not really consider the statement, "if she likes you, she will make free for you." It's not really pertinent to us lowly, normal men who are not super givers of orgasms to hookers using 9 inch Caucasian cocks and superior fitness. For us 5 cm cocked men with beer making our bellies fat, us guys who don't stand out from the crowd, it may be better to play the odds where there are not 10 guys for each WG. Better to leave the hooker seduction game to the superior guys with the charm of Casa Nova and physique of a Greek God than be disappointed when a girl does not come to you when there are 5 guys waiting for her.
    Among Turkish, Arabs, Germans, I liked when she came to me to shower in bed on her busy nights, but she never told me again about anal, when she told me for 60 , when she told me her Audi options on start of our discovery, but never again money talk. Just outstanding level with her. Lina. Ro was also really GFE for 80/60 at Gold on Summer 2019 .

    When Sharks is now mostly for tourist in mind, but can find much better value with higher level in NRW. Same about Globe now in Switzerland.

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Penelope wake up at 6/7 pm. When a girl likes You, she will make free for You, even on Saturday night, when I used to get weekly the superstar on 2022. Quite good value and better level for sex than at brother Gold.
    Yeah, agreed that Penelope is better than Gold for me also. Same with late line up arrival. If you arrive at 4 pm, you can see the bulk of the line up start arriving with the last hitting the floor as late as 8 pm. That said, the pro of Gold over Penelope is that the former makes for a better visit if visiting early in the day as there are around 20 girls by 2 pm where at Penelope, there may only be 10 total girls with 5 already in rooms. Also if someone is not willing to go an extra 45 minutes to an hour by car from Dusseldorf to almost Dortmund, Gold might be a more practical. Also at Gold, you will find more girls who are free as several former Goldentime and Dutch customers have settled there, sometimes taking Goldentime style long rooms.

    Alas, most people should not really consider the statement, "if she likes you, she will make free for you." It's not really pertinent to us lowly, normal men who are not super givers of orgasms to hookers using 9 inch Caucasian cocks and superior fitness. For us 5 cm cocked men with beer making our bellies fat, us guys who don't stand out from the crowd, it may be better to play the odds where there are not 10 guys for each WG. Better to leave the hooker seduction game to the superior guys with the charm of Casa Nova and physique of a Greek God than be disappointed when a girl does not come to you when there are 5 guys waiting for her.

  14. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by EscapeArtist  [View Original Post]
    Well, the ratio is certainly quite terrible on the weekends and can be nearly as bad on weekdays. Probably 10:1 midday before girls arrive. It gets better in the evening but I don't think this club is ever 1:1. Sometimes a girl does get occupied for hours but more often than not, average rooms are very short, where you see a girl go in an out in less than 20 minutes. You do have to be more flexible at clubs like this one, NRW clubs in general.

    Definitely more clothing as every girl is wearing bottoms and only 10% or so are topless. But that does make it nicer when you see them topless leaving the rooms.

    Clubs like Venus, and as far as I remember, Babylon, are much more like FKK full nude style.
    Penelope wake up at 6/7 pm. When a girl likes You, she will make free for You, even on Saturday night, when I used to get weekly the superstar on 2022. Quite good value and better level for sex than at brother Gold.

  15. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Shark16  [View Original Post]
    Excellent report, EA. Love all the details. There should defintively be more reports from the NRW.

    Two questions:

    1. What's the F / M ratios like during a week?

    2. Hot much more clothings compared to the Hessen FKK clubs?

    Here are my prejudices to the NRW (probably based on my lack of experience):

    - Small NRW clubs are popular among our Dutch friends (due to geography and favourable going rates). There are rumours of huge crowds of gents on the weekends occupying the hottest girls.

    - I have been critical to the clothing development at the Hessen clubs for a long time. At times, in particular during winter, the FKK clubs look more and more like sauna clubs with girls wearing lingerie, panties, bras, hardly seethrough negligees, usw. The total disrespect to the FKK culture. I have nightmares that soon we will not even find topless girls in the clubs!
    Well, the ratio is certainly quite terrible on the weekends and can be nearly as bad on weekdays. Probably 10:1 midday before girls arrive. It gets better in the evening but I don't think this club is ever 1:1. Sometimes a girl does get occupied for hours but more often than not, average rooms are very short, where you see a girl go in an out in less than 20 minutes. You do have to be more flexible at clubs like this one, NRW clubs in general.

    Definitely more clothing as every girl is wearing bottoms and only 10% or so are topless. But that does make it nicer when you see them topless leaving the rooms.

    Clubs like Venus, and as far as I remember, Babylon, are much more like FKK full nude style.

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