Pattaya Reports

[LocalExplorer]

I've been quoted 1500 for ST and 3000 for LT very consistently on TF, in beer bars, massage parlours and GCs. In gogos it's 3000ST, and usually 5000 LT. BJ in a GC would be anything between 500 to 800 or 1000, plus a room fee and LD which bumps the overall prices well above 1000. I have once been offered and took LT for 2000, from a beer bar, but it wasn't worth it at all.

The quoted prices do not seem to depend on the quality of the lady, or her skills, motivation etc. I can totally picture getting very heavy discounts from 50+ year old Ladies, or 40+ in bad shape, especially Beach Road and TF. And even more so if you're a regular. I understand if someone isn't very picky about who they bang, I'm not!, but honestly I can get that back home for free (nymphos).

I would guess it's still possible to negotiate even with the more attractive ladies, but I couldn't be bothered, nor did I want the negative emotions. I'd rather focus on getting best quality in that price range, and I'd pay extra if the performance was really good. I had one hot girl who I tipped just over 500 THB ask me "why are you giving me so much money?" with a totally puzzled look on her face. She was 22, the experience was spectacular, and I really wanted her to come back, she did!

Oh, and taking girls from gogos doesn't really make much sense. You can try it a few times for the experience, but for me their allure is the entertainment skills they have, which don't matter much in a 1-on-1 situation. So it makes sense only if she's hot, very young, and very willing, and you don't feel like looking for a girl elsewhere.

[SubCmdr]

Mr. E. always claims that he pays only 1000 or 1200 Baht for LONGtime.

The original question was about Short Time rates. So, those are the answers that were proffered. I every economy there is the insider rate and the outsider rate. It is up to the individual to know their prices and do what they need to do if they wish to get lower rates.

I suppose that if the question was posed for long time rates the answers would be very different, Many others posting in other threads speak of those prices:

For short trips, 2000 baht a day. For extremely long trips 1000 baht a day.

Yep, 1000 b a day plus expenses is the number.

I don't do what they do so for the most part I cannot comment on the rates paid to take your prostitute on trips or to have her spend the night with you. But personally I do not feel that making the comparison between long time prices and short time prices is accurate. Precisely because of the portion I highlighted in bold. The objective measure of price is Cost Per Orgasm (CPO). The formula is that you take the total costs involved in getting your orgasms and divide that total by the number orgasms you received.

Example presented below:

A lady with me now talked about her Korean customers. Lots of drinks, not much sex, good money. Except one guy who fucked her 10 times and gave her 10,000 baht.

So, I would say this guy did pretty good for himself. 10000 THB /10 orgasms = 1000 THB / CPO.

[Mr Enternational]

Mr. E. always claims that he pays only 1000 or 1200 Baht for LONGtime.

He not only claims it, but he shows it too. She makes 600 baht all day at 7-Eleven. She makes 1200 baht all night with me.

[Mogwai]

Exactly how much is much less?

Mr. E. always claims that he pays only 1000 or 1200 Baht for LONGtime.

[Mogwai]

On soi 10 I would think the Stay is far enough down the road, not to be too affected by the beer bars. Even Page 10 (which is much closer), isn't affected that badly.

They often have live bands playing at those beer bars, and they are very loud.

[SubCmdr]

Thanks for all the replies on TF rates.

You are welcome! Like I mentioned before positive feed back creates a desire to share information.

Sounds like 1,500 is the average price but the range varies.

Exactly! I make an offer at the price point I think the girl deserves. She either accepts it or counters. If she counters inside the range I'll add a specific service that I want. If she is willing to provide it we have a deal. Like I said, people pay what they want, they get what they negotiate.

I'm with you Sub, I'll take the lower end of the price spectrum and pocket the difference for further pay for play sessions or food etc. Going with a 1 k THB TF lady instead of say the 2 k THB lady, frees 1 k THB. That 1 K THB equates to an hour oil massage with HJ finish and dinner haha.

No doubt. Along with the savings of THB, others have confirmed that they have found attractive prostitutes in the overall price range.

Beach Road prices range from 1000 - 2000 THB short time. Plus the cost of a short time room (250 THB). You can save the 250 THB if you take them back to your own room.

Gentleman's clubs are going to be 1000 - 1500 THB for the girl; 400 - 500 for the room; and whatever you choose to spend on Lady drinks and drinks for yourself. You can also bar fine the staff there and I have been told by my friends that the rates for an overnight are reasonable.

It is the man in the arena that counts

[Paolo99]

Average price for ST on Soi 6 when I was there last year was 1,000 THB for the lady plus the room fee. Don't be a sucker and pay more than 1,000 THB.

1000 is finished long time ago over there, unless you take the fat ass that blocks your way and force you into her bar.

[SubCmdr]

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[CaliGuy33]

The Cmdr speaks on his experiences with Thai Friendly

I have many friends that ask me about Pattaya. Question number one is: "How much for (fill in the blank)"?

Of the many prostitutes I have found in entered into negotiations with off of Thai Friendly I have been quoted prices from 800 - 5000 THB (Short Time). I tell me friends that you pay the amount that you want to your prostitutes and you get out of them what you negotiate with them. It is really just that simple. Those who are being honest with themselves will acknowledge that we all have different tastes and we want different things from our prostitutes. No one is providing a list of services that they ask for or detailed descriptions (or photos) of the types prostitutes they like to hire.

I have no problem finding prostitutes that I wish to hire for between 800 - 2000 THB using Thai Friendly. Those who want to be paid on the upper end of the range, I require more out of them. Here is my problem, if I have a prostitute that will provide the services I seek at a lower price than one who wants more money, I have a problem giving my business to the higher priced prostitute. The prostitutes I repeat with give me better and better service. Without adding to the price. That adds value for me. So when I run into a prostitute that is asking for upper end of the range, but I have prostitutes that are providing me with excellent service at the lower end of the range, they better be bringing something new to the table that I am seeking..

Thanks for all the replies on TF rates.

Sounds like 1,500 is the average price but the range varies.

I'm with you Sub, I'll take the lower end of the price spectrum and pocket the difference for further pay for play sessions or food etc.

Going with a 1 k THB TF lady instead of say the 2 k THB lady, frees 1 k THB. That 1 K THB equates to an hour oil massage with HJ finish and dinner haha.

[CaliGuy33]

So 2000 for average looking irls is no the norm on soi 6? I saw this on a forum.

Check the pictures. Its just outrageous how they are overcharing tourists.

That girl would never dream of asking more than a 1000 from a thai customer.

Average price for ST on Soi 6 when I was there last year was 1,000 THB for the lady plus the room fee. Don't be a sucker and pay more than 1,000 THB.

[KrumeLurer]

So 2000 for average looking irls is no the norm on soi 6? I saw this on a forum.

Check the pictures. Its just outrageous how they are overcharing tourists.

That girl would never dream of asking more than a 1000 from a thai customer.

[Explorer8939]

Some notes on girl-girl action:

First off, a lot of bar girls will go through the motions with another bargirl that she knows, a "lesbi show". Not too satisfying.

Secondly, in real life, there's a cultural taboo against girl-girl relationships. Boy-boy is okay, girl-tomboy is okay, but not girl-girl.

So, the trick is to find the rare bargirl who lusts after another girl, which is not so easy. Some bargirls only lust after a specific girl, otherwise they have no interest.

Occasionally, you will run into a bargirl who can do a lesbi show with another bargirl who is a real lesbian, and then the show gets pretty real.

I personally don't go for lesbi shows, but I know a couple of wannabe lesbians who don't know how or what to do. They just don't get off with sex with men, but they get horny. And if they get the chance, they will feel up another lady. Their problem is it takes money to fuck a lady in Pattaya and they don't have disposable income.

[SubCmdr]

The Cmdr speaks on his experiences with Thai Friendly

I have many friends that ask me about Pattaya. Question number one is: "How much for (fill in the blank)"?

Of the many prostitutes I have found in entered into negotiations with off of Thai Friendly I have been quoted prices from 800 - 5000 THB (Short Time). I tell me friends that you pay the amount that you want to your prostitutes and you get out of them what you negotiate with them. It is really just that simple. Those who are being honest with themselves will acknowledge that we all have different tastes and we want different things from our prostitutes. No one is providing a list of services that they ask for or detailed descriptions (or photos) of the types prostitutes they like to hire.

I have no problem finding prostitutes that I wish to hire for between 800 - 2000 THB using Thai Friendly. Those who want to be paid on the upper end of the range, I require more out of them. Here is my problem, if I have a prostitute that will provide the services I seek at a lower price than one who wants more money, I have a problem giving my business to the higher priced prostitute. The prostitutes I repeat with give me better and better service. Without adding to the price. That adds value for me. So when I run into a prostitute that is asking for upper end of the range, but I have prostitutes that are providing me with excellent service at the lower end of the range, they better be bringing something new to the table that I am seeking.

How about the TF rates? Last year I was getting ST off TF for 1,000-1,200 THB. I recall you would get around the same. Any changes in pricing there?

Wouldn't surprise me if 1,500 has become the standard or at least the expectation from the ladies as it kind of was last year, but a little bargaining and sending out ample messages on TF goes a long way.

And as already said: 1500 THB is a reasonable expectation for a semi-attractive woman to come to your room (although some board members say they get them for (much) less).

Exactly how much is much less?

USD is the base currency I operate in. 800 THB (22.08 USD) - 2000 THB (55.20 USD) that is a 32.40 USD difference between the top and the bottom of the range. 1500 TBH (41.40 USD); 1000 TBH (27.60 USD); the different between those two are 13.80 USD.

Now I am not like this guy:

Dudes, you are arguing over 500 B. Thats $14. I wipe my ass with 20s. Stop embarrassing yourselves.

I wouldn't deface US currency as it is against the law (in the DisUnited States of America). Exchange places look down upon 20's here in Thailand (especially when they are not crisp and new). Although you could wash the currency after using it to "wipe your ass", that would give an entirely new meaning to the term "money laundering". LOL! I wonder how much my laundry service would charge me for that here in Pattaya. ROTFLMAO!

If I say I routinely hire prostitutes I find on Thai Friendly for 1000 THB (leaving out everyone's definition of what an attractive prostitute looks like) the point to be made here is a 14.00 difference. Now I do not know everyone's budget, but I would not say I am getting girls off of Thai Friendly for "much less" than the current price consensus.

[Free Dude]

I was in Pattaya the last few weeks and on TF 1500 has been the norm, but offering that rate also means you will not get a reply from everyone. In other places it is either 1500 or 2000 (soi 6, LK, Bukhao area). Only a couple of girls in soi 6 or Kinnaree wanted a rubber (although on soi 6 every gave some indication that it could be negotiated, but I wasn't willing to go above 2000). To be clear, with a couple exceptions at 1500 and good service, all the girls I took to a room or my room where below 22. Most below 20 even. Also all between 37 and 45 kg.

To be honest, there also were a handful of these young girls who were willing to have drinks, but came up with excuses to not have to do more (especially on the 6). Some were really all over me with plenty of DFK, during the drink. But nothing more.

On soi 10 I would think the Stay is far enough down the road, not to be too affected by the beer bars. Even Page 10 (which is much closer), isn't affected that badly.

[Mogwai]

8. to find the girls that are willing to do a threesome and would actually be into the idea of it and would get into having some pussy themselves, where is the best place to find this. I'm thinking to pick up a little hottie on Beach Road and ask her if she wants to bring a friend? Or would Soi 6 possibly be better for this?

You could try Thai Friendly, but you will probably have to send many messages to random girls before you hit the jackpot. Over the years I have seen only a few girls on TF who wrote in their profile that they like women too. Of course you could mention in your own profile that you're looking for a MFF threesome, but I'm not sure if TF accepts this.

10. I want to have a massage in my room during the day, want a happy ending some days and probably just a massage others days if I need to recharge. Skip the happy ending, how much can I expect to pay for both types of massage and where is the best place or resources to find a reasonably placed women to come to my room for a massage?

Be aware that a massage lady (no matter if you want a happy ending or not) will usually ask you to put a towel on the bed, because of the oil she is using. And she might also use the towel to rub excess oil from your body. This means you cannot receive another girl in your room anymore the same day, unless you can get an extra towel from house keeping. If they are still around anyway; they are usually gone after 6 or 7 PM. I don't have much experience with this, so I don't know how difficult or easy it is. It might depend on the hotel and their house rules, and a tip of 50 or 100 THB is most likely expected.

11. Condoms, for 28 years of mongering I've always just used my own common sense and it hasn't let me down yet. I've never picked up anything. Yes I like to go raw. Who doesn't? The actual real feeling of that pussy, skin on skin, can't be replicated wrapping plastic around your dick. LOL how do you bring up negotiating this with the girls? Now I can tell you right now because I have my own methodology for who I'll wrap up and who I won't with. Some of the girls I may negotiate to go bareback with and then I might change my mind once the panties come off. It just depends. I've been snipped, so no worries about knocking anyone up.

I'm with you here, BBFS is the best. And since I do not want to use condoms at all anymore, simply because I cannot keep it up with a condom, let alone finish, I'm almost exclusively using TF to find my girls. Because in TF you can ask them discretely and beforehand if they are willing to bareback. In a bar or agogo this is usually much more difficult.
Some girls will ask for more money, but I when I say that I never pay more than 1500, they usually bite.
Another option is a massage parlor, where you can whisper in her ear what you want. But good looking (young) girls are quite rare in the parlors.

13. I'll be staying on Soi 10 at "THE STAY HOTEL" It looks like a decent hotel.

Be aware that there is a beer bar complex at the corner of Soi 10 and Second Road, so very close to the Stay, which is noisy until at least 2 AM every day. So if you are not a night owl, this hotel is not for you.

14. Since I won't have cell phone service because I use straight talk, I'll be relying on Wi-Fi. Do most of the bars, and different places around the restaurants the open beer bars, places like that do they have Wi-Fi connections?

Buy a SIM card with unlimited data at the airport when you arrive. You can even buy one in the baggage hall, when you're waiting for your luggage. As already said by others, Wi-Fi is a hassle and the SIM cards are not expensive. And beside that you will need the app Line to stay in touch with the girls. I'm sure you've read about Line on this forum.

15. And Thai Friendly, I've read a few times that it's basically a waste of time to start working that well in advance and that you should just do it once you're on the ground. If I get on Thai friendly and say 3 o'clock in the afternoon and I start messaging girls what are the odds that I'll be meeting up with one off of there by that evening? And is ฿2000 a reasonable expectation for a semi-attractive woman to come to your room for a couple of rounds?

3 o'clock might even be too early, if you want to meet them in the evening. TF gets really going after 7 or 8 PM, and keeps going until the next morning around 8 or 9 AM. Although I don't know if there is a dip in between, because most of the time I'm not online between 11 PM and 7 AM.
And as already said: 1500 THB is a reasonable expectation for a semi-attractive woman to come to your room (although some board members say they get them for (much) less).