Pattaya Reports

[Mr Enternational]

At the airport, went upstairs and walked outside as usual for a taxi. First dude asked where I was going and I said Pattaya. He said let's go. I said how much. He said 900. Dude next to him butted in 800. Let's go. I guess it is either a buyer's market or maybe this is a 5th tier taxi.

[Forty Drinks]

HR manager at Goodfellas. Soi 6.

Imagine it was you. You have to tell the three 300 pound short dark skin girls your services are no longer welcomed.

I wouldn't be able to do it. What if they ask WHY. Hahaha.

[Forty Drinks]

Chill People.

Inflation is not Coming Down.

2nd tier girls are not going for 1,000.

If their are 5 tiers. 5th tier Wins. 5th tier for 1,000 be Mr Alex Trebe k.

[FFlintstone69]

I am not a defeatist, I'm a realist. What do you mean doomed? The money a Thai dude pays a wg, although less than what a farang pays, hurts him much more than the greater amount the farang pays hurts the farang.

You wrote.

Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.

This implies you are ok with being charged more than others even though the man below just posted if a Thai is in a GoGo he probably has money, probably even more than you.

Being charged more than anyone else is never a good thing.

(how what a Thai pays impacts him is always irrelevant, NEWSFLASH all that matters is how what we pay impacts us).

(Go into a top tier Go Go and tell me the high end price gouging is ok because it impacts your imaginary Thai customer even more even if he's charged way less).

This is the most irrational way of looking at price discrimination I've ever seen.

[Turgid]

With a defeatist attitude like yours we are all doomed.

I am not a defeatist, I'm a realist. What do you mean doomed? The money a Thai dude pays a wg, although less than what a farang pays, hurts him much more than the greater amount the farang pays hurts the farang.

[LocalExplorer]

You're not showing anything but a 7-11 shirt, show her face bro.

Actually, getting girls who have a day job is a very good tactic, I did that too, including a girl who used to work in a 7-Eleven. They're not as hardened, they don't get tons of advice from friends / coworkers about how to milk you more effectively, and they don't have the time to do the planning either. And they're more likely to go for the customer they already know rather then the highest bidder, because it's less of a hassle and guaranteed enough sleep before the day shift.

If you're looking for a girl like that, skip all the ones who are posting pictures from sex venues (beer bars, gogos, Soi 6), pics from exclusive parties and / or where they're really well dressed, with professional make-up, in an expensive apartment etc. That usually means that not only is it their full-time profession rather than a gig, but also they're very comfortable with it. Girls who work during the day will not want to meet at all hours, they'll answer messages with delay in the morning / afternoon, and will probably mention something about their shift during a meeting.

By the way, I have been chatted up by 2 or 3 female 7-Eleven employees, offering to "teach me some Thai" and the like. I'm pretty sure they would be open to quickly switch and teach me French, Greek and many other "languages"! But the fact is, they were all just too ugly for me. You can be on the lookout for hotter ones, but on TF you at least know they're willing and able.

[LocalExplorer]

OK, some more tales / advice coming to you from Pattaya. This time about customer types.

There's the East Asian customer, too often blamed for all things wrong in Pattaya. Actually, that's not my experience. I've seen dozens of them drinking by themselves or in small groups and being extremely assertive about not buying LDs. I was quietly cheerleading for them! When they get ripped off, sooner or later we all suffer! I haven't seen considerable money being thrown around, but I suspect the Koreans and Japanese have on average shorter holidays, so they might be less picky about when they really start paying, due to simple time constraints. Most of them are a bit younger than the average farang, I'd say typically aged 35-50. Very few would qualify as "hot", that's also a bit of a myth.

The Lone Russian. Russians abound, not only on Jomtien, but also around Second Road / CentralPattaya Festival. They rarely go into sex venues, but a small percentage of a large number is still noticeable. On a Friday night between 9-11 PM I found myself in multiple gogos, filled exclusively with lone Russians aged 35-40, and non of them was buying LDs. I guess it makes sense for them, it's the cheapest form of entertainment in Pattaya. However, this usually meant that despite not being Russian, I would still get classified as "another one of them", and attention from girls was limited to say the least. I understand, the girls have to profile the customers somehow. Just be aware of it when you pop your head into a gogo.

The Rich Thai. Yes, they exists, and they go to gogos. The giveaway are mixed-sex Asian group, good clothing, and most of all light skin (pointed out to me by working girls). The rich Thai are never shocked by what they see and they come to have fun. They buy LDs. On 3 different occasions they bought ME a drink, usually accompanied by a quote along the lines of "We like the way you are having fun". I dunno if those were status statements, but who cares, the important part was that I had more booze. Unfortunately, their ladies do not get carried away and do not strip.

By the way, from conversations with the ladies I've noticed skin tone is extremely important for the Thais. If you're like me and don't care about it, it might be a good tactic to actually prefer the dark-skinned girls whenever possible. They're just as nice and good looking, but they probably try harder.

I should write also about The Dumb Farang, The Old Farang, and the Thai Escort (to a farang), perhaps I missed a few more.

[LoveItHere69]

He not only claims it, but he shows it too. She makes 600 baht all day at 7-Eleven. She makes 1200 baht all night with me.

Your pix show nothing. No face. No body shape. Minimum would be a tight body fitting dress minus the face or better a bikini picture. A lot of what you post is pretty much correct when talking about hotels, transportation, ATM / money, etc. The problem is as soon as you talk about yourself it turns to 90% BS. The worst part is you actually believe all your self hype.

[Explorer8939]

Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.

It's pretty sad if a Thai man pays for sex in Pattaya. Most of the ladies who come to Pattaya are looking for a Thai mate, since they have kids and most can't find a boyfriend in the village where they lived. They are hoping for a Thai man who has money, so the lady can stop work bar, but it's more common for the Thai man to scrounge off her. And, since she works long hours, the Thai man's goal is for him to stop work and use her money to secure other ladies.

No matter how smart a bar girl is when it comes to manipulating Farang customers, if she falls in love with a Thai man, she loses her mind.

[FFlintstone69]

Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.

With a defeatist attitude like yours we are all doomed.

[Kontiki]

You can set two sims on your iPhone, just not two physical so one normal SIM and one ESIM, had no issue setting up it during my last trip, I went for Thai ESIM and had it set online prior to arrival and, worked well, it was 25 USD via AIS for 30 days /60 gb but there are shorter plans as well.

Regarding prices, it's about equal between bars and tf cause although girls are usually cheaper in bars, you also pay for some drinks. But obviously, it varies, some guys here will quote really low numbers and although it's possible it usually requires some specific condition like low season / early during day or late at night when demand is low or a familiarity with the girl. The most common price I paid was 2000, with the cheaper girls you can end up just being disappointed with what shows up at your door, being a cheap charlie works for some but it aint for me.

[CaliGuy33]

1000 is finished long time ago over there, unless you take the fat ass that blocks your way and force you into her bar.

I got 1 k regularly on Soi 6 just 8 months ago and the ladies I took were attractive. Certainly not tier 1 ladies, but I would say tier 2 ladies and attractive with nice bodies.

I can't imagine things have changed too much in 8 or so months. It was also the deepest portion of low season (Aug, Sept, Oct) so that must help with getting cheaper rates.

[Turgid]

So 2000 for average looking irls is no the norm on soi 6? I saw this on a forum.

Check the pictures. Its just outrageous how they are overcharing tourists.

That girl would never dream of asking more than a 1000 from a thai customer.

Whether you like it or not farang will always pay more than Thai.

[LocalExplorer]

Buy a SIM card with unlimited data at the airport when you arrive. You can even buy one in the baggage hall, when you're waiting for your luggage. As already said by others, Wi-Fi is a hassle and the SIM cards are not expensive. And beside that you will need the app Line to stay in touch with the girls. I'm sure you've read about Line on this forum.

To each his own, a physical SIM is OK if your phone is a dual physical SIM device (iPhone is not!) or you're spending at least a few months in Thailand. I've tried both SIM and eSIM, and physical SIM is a big hassle especially when you're exhausted and jet-lagged, and then I had problems with a few of my apps that relied on the phone number. I had no access to my original phone number most of the time and people were trying to reach me pretty often. ESIM could be too expensive in the long run, but it's much more convenient, especially for vacations.

3 o'clock might even be too early, if you want to meet them in the evening. TF gets really going after 7 or 8 PM, and keeps going until the next morning around 8 or 9 AM. Although I don't know if there is a dip in between, because most of the time I'm not online between 11 PM and 7 AM.
And as already said: 1500 THB is a reasonable expectation for a semi-attractive woman to come to your room (although some board members say they get them for (much) less).

That was not my experience. At 3 PM TF would be buzzing with life, IMHO it's a good time to start if you don't have contacts established. Perhaps a bit early if you already have contacts, and want a girl at night. Some of the freelancers who have a day job start looking for customers shortly before their shift is over. I would start getting pinged by previous "dates", and girls whom I had not answered the previous day at around 10-11 AM. Also, bored massage girls sit on TF all day. But you know, there's someone on TF at any imaginable hour.

[FFlintstone69]

He not only claims it, but he shows it too.

You're not showing anything but a 7-11 shirt, show her face bro.