Jakarta

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Thanks for your report!

I am certainly not the tip police. You can tip what you want. But I am not following your tipping logic at all. Tip 350 K for a negotiated BBBJ and DFK for 20 minutes versus 200 K for a lady that fucked your brains out all night, did everything you wanted and you had for 3 rounds? Seems like you overpaid for standard service and underpaid for good service. But as they say. Up to you.

BBBJs should be standard fare and included. (Maybe not for threesomes. which I never do. The ladies may not want to suck on the other's spit.) But any solo room with an Indonesian lady should be BBBJ. You shouldn't have to negotiate for it. DFK is harder to come by. But that is where some soft people skills and overall chemistry can come in handy. I think by asking for a BBBJ, you show your hand as a newbie that doesn't know the standard service.

Finally, navigating the mamasans is tricky at first. They see foreigners as an easy mark and will continue to show you ladies until you choose one so they get their commission.

I was going to mention that as well. zero reason to tip as much or more than what you paid for the service. Word will get around when some girl brags about getting a big tip then eventually they'll start expecting it.

[Zippos]

Great report Krishnan and I'm glad you enjoyed your time there despite some hiccups along the way. Definitely a learning curve for you and now that you have experienced that, next time will be much more smoother. We all experienced that to a degree.

What I admire about you is, you took advantage of the knowledge that has been contributed by members and you utilized that. Way to go. This should be an example for newbies planning on mongering In Jakarta.

Just like others mentioned, you are in charge in places like classic, travel and Bfashion. Those mami has a nose for spotting newbie's and they play their game on them. Don't let that get you but instead sit down with your beer and firm but politely say you will take the girl when you are ready.

For threesome, pick one girl and let the girl chose second girl. Not all girls enjoy being naked in front of another girl. For tipping, if you are not happy with the service, you shouldn't tip, period. There is no shame there. I tipped a girl 5 k and when she looked at me shockingly, I simply smiled and said to her "this is what you deserve for your shitty service". Another girl, who provided horrible service, I just walked away and told Mami about how poor service she gave and made it very clear to not to recommend any girls to me like her.

Hold your ground and take your time and most importantly enjoy your time.

If you liked Emporium, you will like king cross too. Give it a a try next time you are in Jakarta.

I recently went to Jakarta from 17-18th may. Thanks to all the member I had a great trip. This trip is more about exploring different options. Here's the full report.

Day 1.


Enjoy!!

[DevSagar]

Thanks for your response. Mine is a refundable booking; at 50 USD with breakfast for 2 persons. I liked their huge room set up; hence chose this property. I'll take a call soon.

Regards.

When I was there, a year ago now, the normally multi lane street was majorly disrupted with construction down the centre. It added some congestion due to there being less lanes each way, but overall only a couple of minutes extra travel time. And I think the hotel is offering good prices becuase of that, which I found out weighed the negative.

[NoGermaphobe]

Thanks for your report!

I am certainly not the tip police. You can tip what you want. But I am not following your tipping logic at all. Tip 350 K for a negotiated BBBJ and DFK for 20 minutes versus 200 K for a lady that fucked your brains out all night, did everything you wanted and you had for 3 rounds? Seems like you overpaid for standard service and underpaid for good service. But as they say. Up to you.

BBBJs should be standard fare and included. (Maybe not for threesomes. which I never do. The ladies may not want to suck on the other's spit.) But any solo room with an Indonesian lady should be BBBJ. You shouldn't have to negotiate for it. DFK is harder to come by. But that is where some soft people skills and overall chemistry can come in handy. I think by asking for a BBBJ, you show your hand as a newbie that doesn't know the standard service.

Finally, navigating the mamasans is tricky at first. They see foreigners as an easy mark and will continue to show you ladies until you choose one so they get their commission. She is financially incentivized for you to take a lady and she wants to get paid. Stand your ground if you are not ready or don't like the selection. You are the boss. Not the mama. Sometimes you have to be quite firm and direct with them. Don't be afraid of this if they keep pestering you. Learning some Indonesian, even if the grammar is not 100% accurate is helpful here.

Just a simple "tidak mau cewek sekarang" would suffice. "Don't want lady now."

I recently went to Jakarta from 17-18th may. Thanks to all the member I had a great trip. This trip is more about exploring different options. Here's the full report.

In the room I told her exactly what I wanted DFK and BBBJ. She quoted me 500 k tip, I negotiated down to 300 k and after taking shower we went to bed. The service was really great, she did everything I asked and took things slow. I was finished in less than 20 minutes. I tipped her 350 k as I was really happy.

I negotiated it to 3 M and I immediately took here to my hotel. Man, she was all over me in the cab and lift. It was one hell of a night. I didn't have to ask for anything, it included everything except BBFS. She was feisty in bed. We went to 2 rounds and 1 round in the morning. She left around 10 am. I gave have 200 k tip. I then slept.

[NoGermaphobe]

On the other side of the KI horseshoe there are several "pricier" places. Mega Ayu has ladies that start at 800 K. Across from Mega is Hotel Royal VIP. I believe that is the place the poster is referring to. Not Royal next to LA Bar. There is also V Four in the front of the horseshoe that has tiered pricing from 400 K, 800 K and 900 K. The picture of the place he is talking about is below. Opened last year around September I think.

LOL, nobody forced you to do anything. You just allowed yourself to be bullied.
You went to new royal in KOTA?
Fellow BM can correct me, the prices in KOTA should only be 400 k for ST and 800 K for 3 hours at your hotel.

[JSmithJ88]

I choose 2 of them and she FORCED me to go to the room.....
I gave 50 k each but FORCED me to gave 50 k more.....
if you come back to lobby then they will again FORCE you go with the girl....

So, I left and went to new royal bar.
The price was 900 k and 1. 1 M....
Then indri came and offered me 4 M if I want to take the girl with me for whole night. I don't know what took me, I really wanted to have a night with her, I negotiated it to 3 M
She left around 10 am. I gave have 200 k tip. I then slept.
Enjoy!!

LOL, nobody forced you to do anything. You just allowed yourself to be bullied.
You went to new royal in KOTA?
Fellow BM can correct me, the prices in KOTA should only be 400 k for ST and 800 K for 3 hours at your hotel.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

I recently went to Jakarta from 17-18th may. Thanks to all the member I had a great trip. This trip is more about exploring different options. Here's the full report.

Day 1.

My flight landed around 1 pm. I took the cab to my hotel, Holiday inn Gajah Mada. There is some construction work going just outside the hotel but the traffic seems ok. I took the shower and went to classic around 7:30. Just after I entered one mama forced me to sit on the table and showed me card stating 365 k for one girl and 500 k for two girls. I never had threesome before so I thought I would try 2 girls even after bad reviews here, then she immediately called around 15 girls. I choose 2 of them and she forced me to go to the room. I asked her to wait for some time so she left but came back after every 2 minute. We then went to room, then service was rushed then didn't agree to DFK and BBBJ. Even I have to wash and change condom when switching girls. Overall my experience was not good, wouldn't recommend anyone to take 2 girls in classic. After the deed girls asked me for tip initially I gave 50 k each but forced me to gave 50 k more. I then came back to lobby and as I walked I was not able to find any other interesting girls. This girls are classic were old, so I left. I had dinner downstairs, the food was great. I then went to travel. In travel the way things work is exactly same as classic. But the prices were 375 k for one girl and 510 k for two girls. I specifically asked mama not to rush me, she then asked me my preferences and called around 6 girls which were exactly what I wanted, young, slim body and big boobs.

Excellent report, thanks for sharing. Glad you had a good time.

[FutureGuy]

Never read any post yet that mentioned that about half the street mamasans will follow and wait outside the guys hotel waiting for their money. But I noticed right away and posted the info because that is important info to know. I told the girls 3 positions. 1 girl did 1 position only because she said her legs hurt doing doggie style. 2 girls only did 2 positions. You can only negotiate so much before someone walks away. Example is when girls start listing all the things she will not do and you walk away. The opposite is when you list all the things you want and she walks away. You can not just say BJ. You have to say uncovered BJ, 10 minutes not 2, entire shaft not just the head. You can have it all on typed paper and have her sign it. You know what that means once you are in the bedroom? Not a damn thing! What does mean something is her facial expressions and her responses to your demands. That is a better prediction of what your bedroom experience will be.

The 100,000 IDR for transport is stupid money. That is halfway to the airport and back on a motorcycle. That was not a miscommunication. That was her trying to be a thief.

You describe situations where on the street and in Classic / Travel the girls reacted negatively to you and where not cooperating. You even suggest that the police came after you. Which is something unheard off in any previous reports on the Jakarta forum.

Therefore we have to figure out how your interactions with the girls differed from people like me. Probably it's the way how you handle the interaction. E. G. Maybe you come off as too commanding / stand-offish (that's just an example, maybe you're not)? I'm not deriding you, so no need to be agitated. Try to reflect about it. If nobody in previous reports had that kind of bad experiences, it may hint at that you could improve you approach. Maybe have a chat with the girls instead of going straight to action etc. Etc.

100 k is obviously scamy, yes. Therefore lesson learned: always specify any money involved including transportation at the outset. As for bareback at Travel / Classic: usually 200 k is doing the trick for me. Remember that only a small share of the 365/375 is going to the girl (about 125).

[Expat American]

I recently went to Jakarta from 17-18th may. Thanks to all the member I had a great trip. This trip is more about exploring different options. Here's the full report.

What a great first post! Not asking for easy to find info. Not commenting on others report. Just a detailed account of his experiences. Bravo. Newbies please read and learn.

Just one comment on Classic and being rushed. You can take your time in the bar, get a drink and sit with a girl. If the girl the mama is pushing doesn't do that, send her back and choose another. You have to realize that you are in charge and there are more girls than customers at any given time. Just be firm and you will get the service and experience you want. Same goes in the room. If you politely and firmly set the tone of what you expect, and offer a reasonable tip (not as high as you paid, although you did okay as a first timer) you will most often get what you want.

Anyway, great report and glad you enjoyed!

[Krishnan2]

I recently went to Jakarta from 17-18th may. Thanks to all the member I had a great trip. This trip is more about exploring different options. Here's the full report.

Day 1.

My flight landed around 1 pm. I took the cab to my hotel, Holiday inn Gajah Mada. There is some construction work going just outside the hotel but the traffic seems ok. I took the shower and went to classic around 7:30. Just after I entered one mama forced me to sit on the table and showed me card stating 365 k for one girl and 500 k for two girls. I never had threesome before so I thought I would try 2 girls even after bad reviews here, then she immediately called around 15 girls. I choose 2 of them and she forced me to go to the room. I asked her to wait for some time so she left but came back after every 2 minute. We then went to room, then service was rushed then didn't agree to DFK and BBBJ. Even I have to wash and change condom when switching girls. Overall my experience was not good, wouldn't recommend anyone to take 2 girls in classic. After the deed girls asked me for tip initially I gave 50 k each but forced me to gave 50 k more. I then came back to lobby and as I walked I was not able to find any other interesting girls. This girls are classic were old, so I left. I had dinner downstairs, the food was great. I then went to travel. In travel the way things work is exactly same as classic. But the prices were 375 k for one girl and 510 k for two girls. I specifically asked mama not to rush me, she then asked me my preferences and called around 6 girls which were exactly what I wanted, young, slim body and big boobs. I choose one and she was so hot I immediately went to the room with her. In the room I told her exactly what I wanted DFK and BBBJ. She quoted me 500 k tip, I negotiated down to 300 k and after taking shower we went to bed. The service was really great, she did everything I asked and took things slow. I was finished in less than 20 minutes. I tipped her 350 k as I was really happy. I was now really tired and wanted to enjoy beer with some good music. One thing to note about classic and travel is that they don't let you sit idle, if you come back to lobby then they will again force you go with the girl. So, I left and went to new royal bar. I reached the bar around 11, met mama named indri there, she took me club, the music and vibe was great, she asked if I wanted a girl, I asked here after some time and to my surprise she didn't force me. I ordered a beer and walked around the bar. There were around 50 girls. The price was 900 k and 1. 1 M. But seriously the quality of girls was really great, one girl caught my eye and I called her for having drink with me. One thing I liked about new royal they never forced me to go to room, I literally sat there with the girl for around one hour. The name of the girl was Citra. She was really good looking and knows English well. So I can talk to her and she slowly started getting flirty with me, getting close to me and around 12 her one hand was literally in my pants. Then indri came and offered me 4 M if I want to take the girl with me for whole night. I don't know what took me, I really wanted to have a night with her, I negotiated it to 3 M and I immediately took here to my hotel. Man, she was all over me in the cab and lift. It was one hell of a night. I didn't have to ask for anything, it included everything except BBFS. She was feisty in bed. We went to 2 rounds and 1 round in the morning. She left around 10 am. I gave have 200 k tip. I then slept.

DAY 2:

I woke up around 2 pm. I hit the pool. After some time, I wanted a massage, so I went to sugar spa as it was very close to hotel. At the first floor, manager came to me and showed rate list. 435 k for only massage, 515 k for FS and 900 k for both. I went for only massage. She then showed me photos of all the girl. I choose Rama. She then came down and took me to the room. I didn't know that but she got completely naked for giving massage. I got really turned on. She gave me massage, with some touching and licking, After the massage she asked if wanted a HJ for 200 k, I agreed. That was one hell of a HJ. I was finished in less than 3 minutes. The massage was also good, overall it was good experience. I came back to hotel and slept. I then went to emporium around 9 pm. I don't have word for emporium, everything is at other level. Quality of girls (all in there early 20's, mostly 9's according to me), ambience. I meet mama named joyce there. She took me to lounge, there were around 15 girls, the prices are 1. 2 M and 1. 4 M. I was not able to differentiate between them, I sat there for half and hour and then choose girl named caca. She was very friendly. In emporium you get half hour with the girl in sauna and one hour in the room. So, we went to sauna. She stripped down to bikini. She was looking so hot. We want to sauna. She gave me a light massage and sat on my lap. It was so good. She kissed and licked me. We then went to room. Everything is included, she gave me one hell of a BBBJ and I fucked her in 4-5 positions. She was very submissive. Overall best experience so far.

After emporium I was so tired I then went back to hotel. In night I called a girl from mi chat for 800 k for 2 session. She was good in bed.

Next day I had my flight in the morning.

Overall, I really had fun. I would suggest everyone that instead of going to classic / travel go to emporium, even tough it is a bit expensive (not that much if you include tips you have to pay for DFK, BBBJ. At classic / travel). Also if you are planning to go emporium go early as they close sauna.

I would come back to Jakarta again for mongering. Great place. Loved it.

Thanks for the forum member for great information. Sorry for the typos.

Enjoy!!

[Nuttin Serious]

When I was there, a year ago now, the normally multi lane street was majorly disrupted with construction down the centre. It added some congestion due to there being less lanes each way, but overall only a couple of minutes extra travel time. And I think the hotel is offering good prices becuase of that, which I found out weighed the negative.

Guys, I know should have inquired in hotel section but taking the liberty to post it here. I am arriving in Jakarta on 2nd June and am booked for 6 nights in Holiday Inn Gajah Mada. My colleague is booked in Pullman, Thamrin and he is requesting me to do the same but I travel for both work and pleasure; he only for work meetings. I have been informed not to stay in Holiday Inn GM as metro construction work is going on and travel to that part would be a big hassle. Can any Gentleman confirm the same? This is my first trip to that country hence this noob question. Many thanks in advance.

Regards.

[DevSagar]

Guys, I know should have inquired in hotel section but taking the liberty to post it here. I am arriving in Jakarta on 2nd June and am booked for 6 nights in Holiday Inn Gajah Mada. My colleague is booked in Pullman, Thamrin and he is requesting me to do the same but I travel for both work and pleasure; he only for work meetings. I have been informed not to stay in Holiday Inn GM as metro construction work is going on and travel to that part would be a big hassle. Can any Gentleman confirm the same? This is my first trip to that country hence this noob question. Many thanks in advance.

Regards.

[Muzungufotsy]

Tremendous start. Second day here a street girl gave a gift I have not received for 10 years. STD. Went and got a shot but did not work so had to go back and get a shot and take oral pills for a week. I took around 9 girls. One wanted me to finish quickly which sucked because it started out great but at the 10 minute point her attitude changed. Two girls complained of pain within 7 minutes. It is not my size so it was either they were just complainers or they had an STD too which caused them pain and they did not know they were sick so only wanted missionary. Actually, had a hot 9 and made plans for the next day and had her Whatsapp but never saw her again. No Whatsapp reply. Looked for her for 6 nights. Had 2-3 fun girls.

What I saw were about 5 mamasans and 3-6 girls. 2 mamasans had phones. 2 had no phones. 1 no idea. At times there were 3 mamasans and 1 girl so they were all trying to find a customer for the 1 girl. They all talk to each other so everyone knows your business. .

Soon there will be more mamasans than girls and some guys travel from far for that?? LOL. Thats beyond me.

Of course you get free STD from street girl. What did you expect?

[LoveItHere69]

I suggest you read my previous posts about street girls. You should always agree the exact amount to be paid in advance. Including transport.

It's very unlikely that the police was after you with 6 guys, if your hotel is in northern Jakarte / Mannga Besar. Particularly based on a law that is not yet in effect and indeed requires the girl's family to make the first step.

Almost no Classic / Travel girl will go bareback without an offer to pay more. Also if someone is hypothetically speaking more of an obese, balding, older guy with bad body hygiene (in particular: smelly breath) girls in general will be less comforting.

Never read any post yet that mentioned that about half the street mamasans will follow and wait outside the guys hotel waiting for their money. But I noticed right away and posted the info because that is important info to know. I told the girls 3 positions. 1 girl did 1 position only because she said her legs hurt doing doggie style. 2 girls only did 2 positions. You can only negotiate so much before someone walks away. Example is when girls start listing all the things she will not do and you walk away. The opposite is when you list all the things you want and she walks away. You can not just say BJ. You have to say uncovered BJ, 10 minutes not 2, entire shaft not just the head. You can have it all on typed paper and have her sign it. You know what that means once you are in the bedroom? Not a damn thing! What does mean something is her facial expressions and her responses to your demands. That is a better prediction of what your bedroom experience will be.

The 100,000 IDR for transport is stupid money. That is halfway to the airport and back on a motorcycle. That was not a miscommunication. That was her trying to be a thief.

Why do you think 6 police officers were sitting around on the 2 floor doing nothing at 9 PM were doing then? I ask because I so rarely see police out anywhere here in Jakarta but amazingly had 6 at what was basically my front door. I was setup in the Philippines 11 years ago. The Criminal Investigation and Detection Group CDIG which is the equivalent of the USA's FBI. It was 5 guys plus one taking pictures as the bracelets were put on. The numbers are for intimidation that it is serious. They let me go after 11 hours before the next shift started so they did not have to explain why I was there. I promise you that less than 5% of guys have walked away from that without paying money. But I did. The Jakarta police would use the law that has been passed and 95% of foreigners would be scared and pay big money not knowing it does not take effect until 2025. I mentioned it on this site in case someone runs into my situation. Did you post this information in one of your prior posts? If not, you should have since you believe you know more than I do. I can assure you, you do not.

I am not smelly, dirty, obese, etc and shave my junk. Granted I am not anything special, just clean cut and friendly to the girls. I did not ask or push for no condom because I was sick and then gun shy afterwards to try without. I gave 100 k tips. 4 girls would not repeat with me because I took too long to finish. Twice I took it to the 40-45 minute mark because the aircon was not working and nearly had a heart attack in the heat so gave 120 k. Looking back I should have given more. It was funny when the laser was on the girl and she was shaking her head "Hell NO not again! You mention the Classic / Travel girls may do bareback for extra money. Well DUH that is anywhere on the planet. Not a guarantee but higher probability. Since you know so much why not give some insight as to low, high, and average prices that you have paid?

[D Cups]

DC, you're going to the wrong place. I've written a few times about the very generous cup sizes in Bali. Two options: either pay the big $$$s for an Insta-hoe or spend the time to meet a true Balinese up north.

Enjoy. G.

Hi G, perhaps you are correct but I almost always manage to find whatever I am looking for wherever I go. Sometimes I get referrals, tho, which are much appreciated. Hell, last time in Jakarta a few years ago I had a DIA superbusty who next time I saw her she brought her even bustier and younger GF for an amazing threesome. But some bloke went off and married her. You just never know!