Salvador

[Xpartan]

I disagree, most mongers I know do their best and learn the language and do well with regular girls. It could be a cultural thing. Tourists from US rarely knows how to speak more than English. Europeans often speak a minimum of three languages and for them it's more easy to learn new languages.

I think you're right about this, which might explain why our experiences are so different.

If somebody spends like 2 weeks-3 months in Brazil it would be very strange if they don't try learn some of the language. Also many mongers who speak no Portuguese at all do their best to flirt with local girls. The simple reason is that they enjoy flirting with pretty women. Is it a comedy to speak with pretty women? Not in my world.

Flirting how, LOL? By smiling, waving your hands or making a joke via GT? Even though I can speak enough Porto to haggle at the market or ask for directions, flirting with girls is a completely different animal. Flirting requires a sufficient command of the language, and sustained ability to make her laugh in her own language. All due respect, it's more than doing one's best.

And then you mention 2 weeks-3 months. Not many Americans have that much go-time. And those who do might also be interested in other places. Brazil, as much as I love it, is not the only country I travel to, so how many languages do you suggest I learn, LOL?

The mongers who doesn't have the ability to make conversations with women, no matter the nationality of the women, lack social skills. My guess is that those guys are a minority.

I don't know. I love talking to people when travel (and not just women). But simple conversations require a much lower set of skills than flirting, IMHO.

You wrote "I never met any black GDPs providers in Salvador during my two visits." That's really strange. It's like going to a gogo-bar in Bangkok and not seeing any Thai girls.

I couldn't agree more -- it IS strange. Granted, I haven't been to many putarias in Salvador during my 2 visits, but I never saw a black chick. I remember whites, remember dark morenas, I remember an incredibly exotic girl in one massage place whose race I wouldn't even be able to pin down, but again, no blacks. And yes, I thought it was strange considering that I did see black WGs in BKK on more than one occasion LOL.

[Sperto]

Sperto,

9 out of 10 punters, even those who aren't FOBU, still don't speak Porto or / and have sufficient time. I'd pay good money to watch a typical monger try to flirt with local girls. That would be a good comedy.

That's why most of us prefer an easy way out: throwing cash at the problem for the sake of a simple, instant gratification.

Sometimes folks forget what this is really about. People who have time to browse the country, who look good and who speak the lingo don't really need to pay for play in Brazil (unless they want a simplicity of an instant, guaranteed fuck). For the rest of us there is money.

That said, Salvador is strange indeed. I never met any black GDPs providers in Salvador during my two visits. I don't know why.

I disagree, most mongers I know do their best and learn the language and do well with regular girls. It could be a cultural thing. Tourists from US rarely knows how to speak more than English. Europeans often speak a minimum of three languages and for them it's more easy to learn new languages. If somebody spends like 2 weeks-3 months in Brazil it would be very strange if they don't try learn some of the language. Also many mongers who speak no Portuguese at all do their best to flirt with local girls. The simple reason is that they enjoy flirting with pretty women. Is it a comedy to speak with pretty women? Not in my world.

The mongers who doesn't have the ability to make conversations with women, no matter the nationality of the women, lack social skills. My guess is that those guys are a minority.

You wrote "I never met any black GDPs providers in Salvador during my two visits." That's really strange. It's like going to a gogo-bar in Bangkok and not seeing any Thai girls.

[Xpartan]

You want to meet a hot black girl in Salvador. There are tons of them in Salvador, regular girls. Unless you are too old, fat, ugly or awkward, go to regular clubs, bars, the beach, take the bus or try to flirt with any girls. They are not hard to score unless you seem too weird.

Sperto,

9 out of 10 punters, even those who aren't FOBU, still don't speak Porto or / and have sufficient time. I'd pay good money to watch a typical monger try to flirt with local girls. That would be a good comedy.

That's why most of us prefer an easy way out: throwing cash at the problem for the sake of a simple, instant gratification.

Sometimes folks forget what this is really about. People who have time to browse the country, who look good and who speak the lingo don't really need to pay for play in Brazil (unless they want a simplicity of an instant, guaranteed fuck). For the rest of us there is money.

That said, Salvador is strange indeed. I never met any black GDPs providers in Salvador during my two visits. I don't know why.

[Sperto]

You want to meet a hot black girl in Salvador. There are tons of them in Salvador, regular girls. Unless you are too old, fat, ugly or awkward, go to regular clubs, bars, the beach, take the bus or try to flirt with any girls. They are not hard to score unless you seem too weird.

[NRandom940]

If I wanted a strong selection of black women

Go to Portugal.

[The Cane]

I searched the forum for a few years back. Platinum was the only place that was described in a positive manner. And I never saw any report describing what you are looking for. And if there was such a place, especially if it was a little more affordable, I would have checked it out myself. I was surprised. Salvador is the Afro-brazilian epicenter of the country. If they aren't there, I don't know where they would be.

Everyone likes what they like. Variety is the spice of life. But its understandable because, in general, lighter skinned and thinner girls do more business. So any higher end place, where management has spent has invested as much cash as they have to build the place, is going to have more of those type of women. Even in Salvador.

If I were in the mood for those of African descent, I would go to Ethiopia. Ethiopian women can be devastatingly gorgeous. Why mess around? Go to the source.

Except for the DR, there is nowhere in the Carribbean. Except for Jamaica, all the chicas are imported from Colombia and Venezuela.

When I went to Dubai several years ago there were lots of Ethiopians working there. Though not my thing, many of them looked like models. They have a terrible reputation for poor service however. Dead fish fucks. Scams. I don't know that going to Ethiopia itself would yield better results. There are some black women working in Thailand, but they tend to be bottom feeder street tutes. If I wanted a strong selection of black women, in the Americas the Dominican Republic would be the place to go to I think. In Africa Kenya seems to be a popular mongering destination, among some other countries on the continent.

[Aristhotle]

I searched the forum for a few years back. Platinum was the only place that was described in a positive manner. And I never saw any report describing what you are looking for. And if there was such a place, especially if it was a little more affordable, I would have checked it out myself. I was surprised. Salvador is the Afro-brazilian epicenter of the country. If they aren't there, I don't know where they would be.

So there wasn't even medium priced clubs with at least some negras and mulatas? I read here that there was a place called Eros that might have had Afro-Brazilian and mulata girls. But some people here claimed it is closed. Has it opened again? Or has another club taken it's place.

I also see online a club called Ferrary Music Bar that basically is a brothel. Any word if some negras can be found there?

I have to imagine they are around. Might be either guys aren't telling (very possible). Or guys don't know how to get around with good Brazilian Portuguese. And I do understand Salvador you have to move around carefully.

I will be there this summer, and intend to report. If anyone has info on black girls for pay in Bahia, please let us know. Even the black girls who are 8's have to be somewhere (though I'm hunting for 9's and 10's).

[Manny51]

I searched the forum for a few years back. Platinum was the only place that was described in a positive manner. And I never saw any report describing what you are looking for. And if there was such a place, especially if it was a little more affordable, I would have checked it out myself. I was surprised. Salvador is the Afro-brazilian epicenter of the country. If they aren't there, I don't know where they would be.

Everyone likes what they like. Variety is the spice of life. But its understandable because, in general, lighter skinned and thinner girls do more business. So any higher end place, where management has spent has invested as much cash as they have to build the place, is going to have more of those type of women. Even in Salvador.

If I were in the mood for those of African descent, I would go to Ethiopia. Ethiopian women can be devastatingly gorgeous. Why mess around? Go to the source.

Except for the DR, there is nowhere in the Carribbean. Except for Jamaica, all the chicas are imported from Colombia and Venezuela.

Thank you for your report. Even with the girls being mostly white skinned, I will check the place out. From their Instagram, they look hot and I sense I can get a threesome there with good authentic lesbianism for my fun (before I get in between them).

I still am looking for that paradise where the hottest upper end black and mulata women FOR PAY are at in Brazil (or anywhere else for that matter) except for Rio. If anyone knows, please let us know here.

In particular I'd love a place with black and mixed baddies like in the better Atlanta strip clubs (higher end, not the cheap places). I have to suspect in Brazil that can be found. This is why I will check out Salvador. But if anyone has the info on where in Salvador, Brazil, or anywhere in Latin America and the Caribbean that can be found please do tell. I know about DR. Anywhere except Rio or DR.

[Aristhotle]

Despite it being in Salvador, I don't think there was a single Afro-Brazilian girl there. It was all more latino / portugese Brazilians.

Thank you for your report. Even with the girls being mostly white skinned, I will check the place out. From their Instagram, they look hot and I sense I can get a threesome there with good authentic lesbianism for my fun (before I get in between them).

I still am looking for that paradise where the hottest upper end black and mulata women FOR PAY are at in Brazil (or anywhere else for that matter) except for Rio. If anyone knows, please let us know here.

In particular I'd love a place with black and mixed baddies like in the better Atlanta strip clubs (higher end, not the cheap places). I have to suspect in Brazil that can be found. This is why I will check out Salvador. But if anyone has the info on where in Salvador, Brazil, or anywhere in Latin America and the Caribbean that can be found please do tell. I know about DR. Anywhere except Rio or DR.

[VanessasClient]

If you spend most of your time in Brazil, then I could understand that. I got the sense that, for whatever reason, the Brazilian woman's attitude toward men and sex is less jaded. Not sure if I am reading that accurately, but it sure SEEMED that way.

BTW, where were these venues where you had such great experiences?

1 in Brazil, and 1 in the Dominican Republic. The 3rd one was in fact domestic, but again, it was just "positive" and not mega positive. Other than 1 woman I met in Australia back in 2017, my first time trying this internationally was in 2022. Since then I haven't been able to look back. I might see a domestic girl once or twice a year now, just because of the convenience and the fact that I don't travel constantly. But prior to that, it was often more than once per month.

[Manny51]

If you spend most of your time in Brazil, then I could understand that. I got the sense that, for whatever reason, the Brazilian woman's attitude toward men and sex is less jaded. Not sure if I am reading that accurately, but it sure SEEMED that way.

BTW, where were these venues where you had such great experiences?

So it sounds like the "Kardashian Effect" is spreading outside the USA? Just my luck that since January, I've had 3 positive experiences. 1 positive experience, and 2 mega positive experiences, really almost nothing like I've ever had before. I think there are still some flowers in the field full of weeds, but you have to spend some time searching.

I was thinking more along the lines that you would say something like the police in under countries are cracking down on prostitution, or that foreign prices per hour were skyrocketing. Seems like people, but most especially young women, are just allowing their inner light to shine through technology designed to exploit people and cause addiction. Bit more of a human story than a sex worker story, but still very true.

[VanessasClient]

Its a subtle change in how young people think now. The inundation of young women with cell phones, social media, and reality TV makes them fundamentally unhappy. And its all women, not just working girls. The ladies aren't happy unless they are getting thousands of dollars a night for "gifting" us with their company. Minimal service because they hate what they do and almost hate themselves because of it. Everywhere I went in Germany and Costa Rica, there was a constant, never ending whining for tips, demanding the money upfront in the room, etc. Its not that this never existed before. I remember for many years guys complaining about "The Romanians" in the FKKs who were cold and more business like. Its just that this attitude has spread enough to become the dominant attitude. Not the exception, but now the rule. It doesn't need to be extremely passionate. But at least "warm. " They don't realize that the best ones, the ones who get repeat customers, are the ones who provide more than just sex. They provide an experience. There is a great movie on Netflix called "The Menu" that illustrates this point very well.

I think that venues and ladies that provide a quality experience at real-world prices are becoming harder and harder to find. The best thing this forum can provide is where to go in the post-Covid world, because many of the old haunts are played out.

So it sounds like the "Kardashian Effect" is spreading outside the USA? Just my luck that since January, I've had 3 positive experiences. 1 positive experience, and 2 mega positive experiences, really almost nothing like I've ever had before. I think there are still some flowers in the field full of weeds, but you have to spend some time searching.

I was thinking more along the lines that you would say something like the police in under countries are cracking down on prostitution, or that foreign prices per hour were skyrocketing. Seems like people, but most especially young women, are just allowing their inner light to shine through technology designed to exploit people and cause addiction. Bit more of a human story than a sex worker story, but still very true.

[Manny51]

Why, specifically, do you think that? Any details would be appreciated.

Its a subtle change in how young people think now. The inundation of young women with cell phones, social media, and reality TV makes them fundamentally unhappy. And its all women, not just working girls. The ladies aren't happy unless they are getting thousands of dollars a night for "gifting" us with their company. Minimal service because they hate what they do and almost hate themselves because of it. Everywhere I went in Germany and Costa Rica, there was a constant, never ending whining for tips, demanding the money upfront in the room, etc. Its not that this never existed before. I remember for many years guys complaining about "The Romanians" in the FKKs who were cold and more business like. Its just that this attitude has spread enough to become the dominant attitude. Not the exception, but now the rule. It doesn't need to be extremely passionate. But at least "warm. " They don't realize that the best ones, the ones who get repeat customers, are the ones who provide more than just sex. They provide an experience. There is a great movie on Netflix called "The Menu" that illustrates this point very well.

I think that venues and ladies that provide a quality experience at real-world prices are becoming harder and harder to find. The best thing this forum can provide is where to go in the post-Covid world, because many of the old haunts are played out.

[Shamester]

Manny, thanks for the report -- extremely informative.

Does anyone have suggestions for hotel rooms in the same area under $100?

Thank you.

[VanessasClient]

I still think that, unfortunately, international punting is on the decline.

Why, specifically, do you think that? Any details would be appreciated.