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  1. #1087
    Quote Originally Posted by Drbombay  [View Original Post]
    Afterwards a semi-decent massage and then the timer went off. Overall experience was good for a Thursday afternoon after being turned down so many times. Touts seemed nice and asked where I was from and we chatted a little. I guess the key to success is to be friendly with them and hope that they will at least pass you a decent one to work with!
    Two things help, the time of day and week, next your speaking ability / cooperation level. If things are slow the manager might okay some foreigners during that time but it is up to the discretion of the staff. If it's a no just move on, complaining on the spot is not going to help and would just the cooperation factor being a miss.

    This is the basic test of "Is this guy going to follow basic rules or cause trouble" A normal customer is looking for fun and if it's a no, they move on to the next fun. There is a minimum language requirement, it is not a whole lot but I would say 1st year Japanese for many places (depending on how much you need to communicate with girls). So ironically I could only get into oppai pubs 20 years ago because that required the least Japanese and I only studied 3 months.

    With 3 months I could not get into hostess clubs at first because that is all talking so you need at least some Japanese. By year 2 of Japanese that was enough so I went to a girls bar in Osaka and it was amazing. No touch but the girls were really cute, it was super cheap all you can drink, and they made me feel very comfortable. I still don't know why they don't charge more but I was lucky in some ways since I went off-hours and I'm sure not every girl there is going to be cute. I suppose with the right girl it's always going to work out no matter what the action. I tried finding the place next year but they closed. Places come and go a lot. So I looked up online and that's how I ended up at Hadaka no Ousama (the naked Emperor). Crazy stuff there.

    One concern is they are going to tell you rules like "You can finger the girl but don't be rough" or "You can do anything but penetration at this shop" and it is imperative that guys use common sense and understand what they say. It takes just one or two guys breaking those rules to get foreigners banned. Japanese guys can already read the many stickers on the wall saying the fine for non-consensual sexual assault, and for good reason because if you don't pay for something and the girl doesn't let you, that's wrong and they have every right to call you out for it. In other words there is a lot of fun to be had and a shop for everything, so just find the shop that lets you do what you want rather than making girls do things you didn't pay them for. Anyways, that is why following rules is so important and the bare minimum language factor (and common sense cooperation) being pretty important.

    The foreigner friendly places like Kira Kira, they literally give you the printed rules in English, Chinese, Korean after you tell them what country you're from. This is for first-timers. They have you sign it, saying you won't hurt the girls and follow those rules. No problem with that, since every rule is basic common sense like "don't rape" or "don't film" etc.. I suppose most shops do not have printed out forms in 4 languages, so they have to rely on the honor / trust system when they invite you in. So let's keep the good thing going if they do.

    The minimum language requirement is not just for the shop, it is for your benefit too. Once you get into a soapland the girl might ask you what you want. Ask you where you're from and what you do, etc. If you can't do the minimum, it isn't going to be nearly as fun. The point of soapland is to have fun. So choose the type of place you go accordingly.

  2. #1086
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Thanks guys. Good timing reviving this thread. I was considering Yokohama next week. Are the girls with the face photos on the Kira Kira site legit and recent? There's one I think is decent.

    Are there other places like Kira Kira in the Yokohama area?
    The two girls I saw, the photos were of them, face censored. A shop is going to show the best side of a girl though so I find it best not to expect anything from liking a photo. In the USA agencies go crazy with photoshop and fake photos, or use old photos from years ago. At least Japan doesn't go that far in my experience.

    Girls come and go so a few months later some girls will still be there, some gone for good. That's normal everywhere.

    There are other soaplands but I heard this place might allow foreigners and I went out of convenience / curiosity. As I said I'm not into soapland but if I was more serious I would try others since I can speak decently enough. If you haven't gone to any, I suppose it only makes sense to try the most open one first. If your Japanese level is very low, it may be hard. They would have to ask the girl or just know it's not possible. When my Japanese level was low, most (80%) soaplands refused me or offered an extra charge. And they should in hindsight, lack of communication is less enjoyable and causes problems for both sides. People who can't speak any Japanese at all should not be using soapland.

  3. #1085
    Thanks guys. Good timing reviving this thread. I was considering Yokohama next week. Are the girls with the face photos on the Kira Kira site legit and recent? There's one I think is decent.

    Are there other places like Kira Kira in the Yokohama area?

  4. #1084
    Quote Originally Posted by NRandom940  [View Original Post]
    Do they kick you out after the first one? Or you get the 50 minutes even if you cum after 10 minutes?
    You are paying for 50 minutes, you will get it. I do whatever I want with that time. Always. Even though I've only tried soapland a few times, I've tried other similar systems and in any case in Japan if it is a legit establishment (i.e. run by Japanese), you get what you pay for no matter what.

    My first time in Japan 20 years ago I gave them too much at an oppai club and they gave back the extra. I was confused and they insisted I paid them wrong. So I just took their word for it. They do not want a customer to notice later anyways and get upset (I wouldn't have), so they play things by the book almost everywhere.

    When time is up, they call the phone in the room and let her know. In case she didn't set an early warning timer. I try to just relax at the end so she doesn't have to take my cock out of her mouth just to say "yeah I got it" to the staff. But that's just me. Now when 50 minutes are up nobody cares if you need a few minutes to get dressed, but I'm sure it would be bad form to try and put your cock back in her mouth. That's a foul.

    It would help to have some basic Japanese so there's no miscommunication and so you can enjoy it. It is not that much to ask, I studied Japanese 3 months when I first went and it got me way further than 0 would have.

    There is no guarantee a place will take foreigners, even if they took them in the past. These days since I speak well I can get in 90% of sexy places where before I could get in 20%. Most of that is the majority of clubs are "pay to talk". Since oppai pubs focus on kissing and licking the girl, I was ironically let into that but not others like hostess, etc.. The thing is, they were doing me a favor. Years later when I tried more I realize it wouldn't have worked out and I would have just caused trouble for them by not understanding enough Japanese. Each type of shop has a minimum level of communication and etiquette (following common sense rules) required.

  5. #1083
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelerX  [View Original Post]
    I am too old to answer that, I'm sure they would have let me but I didn't try and YMMV.
    Do they kick you out after the first one? Or you get the 50 minutes even if you cum after 10 minutes?

  6. #1082
    Quote Originally Posted by NRandom940  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the info.

    Is it unlimited shots in 50 minutes?
    I am too old to answer that, I'm sure they would have let me but I didn't try and YMMV.

  7. #1081
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelerX  [View Original Post]
    It's soapland you are going to get FS just don't discuss it with anyone except the girl. The whole business model is they provide a room for the girl and run a timer, the sign outside says 50 minutes for 18000 and that's what you get. You and the girl decide what goes on. The staff wouldn't know, they don't want to know. So no reason to discuss it with them.

    I think asking them says you don't know the rules because it's against the law for them to promise that. They can't make a girl have sex with you, but they are allowed to provide a room where it's going to happen.

    I've only gone a few times but the girls are cooperative and you can either follow their course or they will take your lead. But I knew what to expect, sex is the whole point of soapland and it's been around for a long time.
    Thanks for the info.

    Is it unlimited shots in 50 minutes?

  8. #1080
    Quote Originally Posted by NRandom940  [View Original Post]
    Is FS offered or would I expect to get kicked out for asking?
    It's soapland you are going to get FS just don't discuss it with anyone except the girl. The whole business model is they provide a room for the girl and run a timer, the sign outside says 50 minutes for 18000 and that's what you get. You and the girl decide what goes on. The staff wouldn't know, they don't want to know. So no reason to discuss it with them.

    I think asking them says you don't know the rules because it's against the law for them to promise that. They can't make a girl have sex with you, but they are allowed to provide a room where it's going to happen.

    I've only gone a few times but the girls are cooperative and you can either follow their course or they will take your lead. But I knew what to expect, sex is the whole point of soapland and it's been around for a long time.

  9. #1079
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelerX  [View Original Post]
    Yes, they bring out laminated photos. They may use the same photo as the website. The photo is of her but as you can see from the website some are more censored than others. I suppose I could be bothered to make a reservation but for me it's pretty spontaneous when I can go and I go for the novelty. The starting rate of 18000 is $112 so to me I don't really care just worship me for 50 minutes before I get something to eat.

    The clock starts when you walk with the girl upstairs until when you should leave (they aren't super strict in that you can just get dressed at that point, just the action should stop then). So I never felt rushed. First girl I saw simply asked "So what should I do for you?" and I explained I want it to be like JAV and she did just that, full body lube, air mattress play, bathtub sucking, and all.

    If you know less Japanese, I would point at each of those things (air mattress in the bath area, bathtub, etc..) and that would be enough. It is not rude to use blowjob gestures with your hand to demonstrate what you want, this is the land of the free when it comes to sexual expression. Clear communication is key. I've had touts communicate exactly this way to me what was offered when I couldn't speak much.

    It is not a big room but well designed where half the room is a bedroom and the other half is a bathroom with no wall and floor drainage.

    There is a "stool" that you sit on they can wash you on. No spoilers beyond that just be brave.
    Is FS offered or would I expect to get kicked out for asking?

  10. #1078
    Quote Originally Posted by NRandom940  [View Original Post]
    In Kira Kira, do you select from photos?
    Yes, they bring out laminated photos. They may use the same photo as the website. The photo is of her but as you can see from the website some are more censored than others. I suppose I could be bothered to make a reservation but for me it's pretty spontaneous when I can go and I go for the novelty. The starting rate of 18000 is $112 so to me I don't really care just worship me for 50 minutes before I get something to eat.

    The clock starts when you walk with the girl upstairs until when you should leave (they aren't super strict in that you can just get dressed at that point, just the action should stop then). So I never felt rushed. First girl I saw simply asked "So what should I do for you?" and I explained I want it to be like JAV and she did just that, full body lube, air mattress play, bathtub sucking, and all.

    If you know less Japanese, I would point at each of those things (air mattress in the bath area, bathtub, etc..) and that would be enough. It is not rude to use blowjob gestures with your hand to demonstrate what you want, this is the land of the free when it comes to sexual expression. Clear communication is key. I've had touts communicate exactly this way to me what was offered when I couldn't speak much.

    It is not a big room but well designed where half the room is a bedroom and the other half is a bathroom with no wall and floor drainage.

    There is a "stool" that you sit on they can wash you on. No spoilers beyond that just be brave.

  11. #1077
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelerX  [View Original Post]
    Nobody is updating Yokohama lately so here I go!

    Kira Kira (formerly Mermaid) in Yokohama is a soap that has long allowed foreigners (YMMV). Best to have some basic Japanese and good manners, since the main reason they'd refuse anyone is for someone who doesn't follow common sense rules. This is much more important than your speaking ability, though I think you'll enjoy things a lot more if you can tell the girl what you want.

    https://kirakira.yokohama/

    The location is very close to Hinodecho station so if I don't have a connecting train to that station I might ask a taxi to take me towards Hinodecho station but tell them to drop me off 1 block before actually arriving. I don't have time to write an in-depth guide now, but the website shows girls and their schedules. You can reserve a girl ahead of time and show up, or just walk in. Since I go solely out of curiosity, I just show up. There is usually 1 or 2 girls free (there can be 4+ girls working at a given time), but it's possible that no girl is free and you have to wait.

    If you step in, the first thing they ask you is if you have a reservation aka "yoyaku". There is a waiting room for customers where you sit down at a booth while you wait. They give you a number chip to identify you (i.e. same as a coffee shop). Then they ask you if this is your first time, and where you are from (I. E. USA, etc.). The rates are 50 minutes for 18000 yen, 70 minutes for 26000. I have never been charged a different rate for being a foreigner, I've always paid the advertised rate. If you ever seen a sign with those minutes and those prices or higher, it is going to be soapland or something comparable. The market is very competitive in Japan and certain prices are for certain things assuming the customer is Japanese. As a rule, don't go places that target foreigners, just go to places that allow them. You will get much better service.

    It can take a few minutes for the girl you pick to be ready. From stepping in to getting the girl, it was 5-10 minutes for me. Probably much longer if you went at peak times, so don't.

    No FS place will ever promise sex, they just supply a room for you to meet the girl. You will then fall in love and probably end up having sex anyways. Right. It needs to be said that hanjobs, blowjobs, anal sex for money are 100% legal in Japan, so places like delivery health will advertise those things but don't dare promise full sex aka honban. Wink.

    If you say this is your first time, they will go over the rules in detail. Kira Kira happens to have it in English. In future visits say you've been here before to skip that. The rules are common sense and if you weren't going to obey them without being asked, then you shouldn't be going anyways. They are: Don't hurt the girl, don't rape the girl, don't hurt the girl, etc. I mean come on, just don't. Normal people don't have to be asked, but it has to be spelled out for those who don't know what they're doing or at best are on the borderline of being too rough. Anyways, that's what the most important rules are and everyone whether Japanese or foreigner has to follow them.

    Some girls are more attractive than others, some better service than others. Obviously the better girls are simply more likely to be busy. If you just walk in, you can expect a decent looking girl in her 30's, most likely she will service you properly and make sure you are worshipped and have a good time. But every girl is different. I hear there are better soaplands, some costing more, some charging extra for foreigners, but they aren't my thing in general so I went 3 times out of curiosity. Just wanted to share what I know.

    For young girls in early 20's, look for my oppai pub guide in the Tokyo section. Only a few soaplands have 20 year olds that are also attractive, and many do not take foreigners anyways. People don't go to soapland for young girls, they go to be sexually worshipped.

    I had fun every time, it's fun to chat with a girl while she soaps herself up and rubs your body all over with her body, your hands and body sliding across her body especially her tits. All that stuff. I won't elaborate since I've already written it out elsewhere what soapland is about.

    In Yokohama, there are a lot of girls standing in some areas, some holding up signs while others asking you to go to their bar. Most are girls bars, you don't touch the girls or anything but you can drink and chat with them and I'm sure that's fun. I do. But why not also suck on their tits and kiss them like an oppai pub, for just a little more. But that's just me.

    A few are Chinese or other Asian minority and offer massage, a few offer more fun but that is the exception. Any girl can stand around a street, don't assume the reason. Maybe 1 in 10 or 20 are prostitutes. The cuter the girl, the less likely she is a prostitute because after all she can just lure you to her no touch girls bar instead. There was one girl that was newhalf, she actually looked decent and I couldn't be sure until I heard the tout tell a Japanese there that he can try a newhalf if they wanted. If you don't know what this is, don't look it up. Stay innocent and enjoy your day!
    In Kira Kira, do you select from photos?

  12. #1076

    Kira Kira / Mermaid

    Nobody is updating Yokohama lately so here I go!

    Kira Kira (formerly Mermaid) in Yokohama is a soap that has long allowed foreigners (YMMV). Best to have some basic Japanese and good manners, since the main reason they'd refuse anyone is for someone who doesn't follow common sense rules. This is much more important than your speaking ability, though I think you'll enjoy things a lot more if you can tell the girl what you want.

    https://kirakira.yokohama/

    The location is very close to Hinodecho station so if I don't have a connecting train to that station I might ask a taxi to take me towards Hinodecho station but tell them to drop me off 1 block before actually arriving. I don't have time to write an in-depth guide now, but the website shows girls and their schedules. You can reserve a girl ahead of time and show up, or just walk in. Since I go solely out of curiosity, I just show up. There is usually 1 or 2 girls free (there can be 4+ girls working at a given time), but it's possible that no girl is free and you have to wait.

    If you step in, the first thing they ask you is if you have a reservation aka "yoyaku". There is a waiting room for customers where you sit down at a booth while you wait. They give you a number chip to identify you (i.e. same as a coffee shop). Then they ask you if this is your first time, and where you are from (I. E. USA, etc.). The rates are 50 minutes for 18000 yen, 70 minutes for 26000. I have never been charged a different rate for being a foreigner, I've always paid the advertised rate. If you ever seen a sign with those minutes and those prices or higher, it is going to be soapland or something comparable. The market is very competitive in Japan and certain prices are for certain things assuming the customer is Japanese. As a rule, don't go places that target foreigners, just go to places that allow them. You will get much better service.

    It can take a few minutes for the girl you pick to be ready. From stepping in to getting the girl, it was 5-10 minutes for me. Probably much longer if you went at peak times, so don't.

    No FS place will ever promise sex, they just supply a room for you to meet the girl. You will then fall in love and probably end up having sex anyways. Right. It needs to be said that hanjobs, blowjobs, anal sex for money are 100% legal in Japan, so places like delivery health will advertise those things but don't dare promise full sex aka honban. Wink.

    If you say this is your first time, they will go over the rules in detail. Kira Kira happens to have it in English. In future visits say you've been here before to skip that. The rules are common sense and if you weren't going to obey them without being asked, then you shouldn't be going anyways. They are: Don't hurt the girl, don't rape the girl, don't hurt the girl, etc. I mean come on, just don't. Normal people don't have to be asked, but it has to be spelled out for those who don't know what they're doing or at best are on the borderline of being too rough. Anyways, that's what the most important rules are and everyone whether Japanese or foreigner has to follow them.

    Some girls are more attractive than others, some better service than others. Obviously the better girls are simply more likely to be busy. If you just walk in, you can expect a decent looking girl in her 30's, most likely she will service you properly and make sure you are worshipped and have a good time. But every girl is different. I hear there are better soaplands, some costing more, some charging extra for foreigners, but they aren't my thing in general so I went 3 times out of curiosity. Just wanted to share what I know.

    For young girls in early 20's, look for my oppai pub guide in the Tokyo section. Only a few soaplands have 20 year olds that are also attractive, and many do not take foreigners anyways. People don't go to soapland for young girls, they go to be sexually worshipped.

    I had fun every time, it's fun to chat with a girl while she soaps herself up and rubs your body all over with her body, your hands and body sliding across her body especially her tits. All that stuff. I won't elaborate since I've already written it out elsewhere what soapland is about.

    In Yokohama, there are a lot of girls standing in some areas, some holding up signs while others asking you to go to their bar. Most are girls bars, you don't touch the girls or anything but you can drink and chat with them and I'm sure that's fun. I do. But why not also suck on their tits and kiss them like an oppai pub, for just a little more. But that's just me.

    A few are Chinese or other Asian minority and offer massage, a few offer more fun but that is the exception. Any girl can stand around a street, don't assume the reason. Maybe 1 in 10 or 20 are prostitutes. The cuter the girl, the less likely she is a prostitute because after all she can just lure you to her no touch girls bar instead. There was one girl that was newhalf, she actually looked decent and I couldn't be sure until I heard the tout tell a Japanese there that he can try a newhalf if they wanted. If you don't know what this is, don't look it up. Stay innocent and enjoy your day!

  13. #1075
    Quote Originally Posted by LovinAsia  [View Original Post]
    Hi guys. This may be a long shot but are there any guaranteed spots for FS for a 1st timer in yokohama with no Japanese skills? Don't visit Japan often. Thanks.
    Try Kira Kira / Mermaid?

    Directions here.

    https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/ed...4M&usp=sharing

  14. #1074
    Hi guys. This may be a long shot but are there any guaranteed spots for FS for a 1st timer in yokohama with no Japanese skills? Don't visit Japan often. Thanks.

  15. #1073

    Mr. Dandy

    Been a long time so I took a daytime stroll in the old Hinedecho area. Found a place that lets us foreigners in called Mr. Dandy. It's in a cluster of places that don't cater to us so I was surprised when the touts said ok. Only words they told me were "no penetration. ".

    Use of Google translate helped so I took the hour course for 21,000 yen. I didn't select a girl they found one for me. She was decent, about 33 short hair and nice medium sized body. Went into a little room with a nice shower and bed. She did the soapy thing and then we moved over to the bed. BBBJ and a lot of sucking and then a shot on her boobs.

    Afterwards a semi-decent massage and then the timer went off. Overall experience was good for a Thursday afternoon after being turned down so many times. Touts seemed nice and asked where I was from and we chatted a little. I guess the key to success is to be friendly with them and hope that they will at least pass you a decent one to work with!

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