Jakarta

[DevSagar]

No, it is not a typical case and is mandatory; no backing out. I have fucked 6 girls there and have given all 5 of them 200 K because I was super happy with the service. I do not do BBFS but was mighty pleased with what I got. The 6th girl attitude in the room and outside was not that warm; wouldn't call it cold as well but found her to be too commercial kinda chick. I gave her 100 K and that's how Papasan came to me at the counter and explained the rule to me that it has been changed only a month ago. Tips cannot be forced out of me if not informed earlier in advance. Honestly, it's not 100 K that bugged me as God's been kind but the rule change or no prior info that irritated me. Nothing got lost in translation as me and Papasan both can converse and understand English Language.

Interesting. I had top customer service at Emporium. I tipped 200 K as my my normal tip for good service. The first girl seemed a little disappointed (because she gave me BBFS) but didn't make a fuss. The second girl was more than happy with the amount. But I don't like the idea of it being mandatory. Then just raise the price. Tips should be incentive for service. I'm hoping your case is not the typical and something just got lost in translation. Otherwise we should assume the price to be 1. 4/1. 6 which is still cheaper than Thailand and even Philippines for equivalent quality girls so still not a deal breaker.

[Werqweq]

but only banged her twice.

Only banged her once, that should have said.

[Werqweq]

Yes and I do not blame him. It's the trust and faith factor between the client and Handler. Always have gone by his recommendation and only one time in the past I chose a 1. 4 M chick but he had clarified in advance with reference to her rate. Yesterday, too had pinged him in advance about my arrival and he had kept 2 chicks in mind for me but both of them were 1. 4 M chicks. I was not informed of the price and I just chose one out of them.

This particular point I don't think there's any reason to blame the papasan / David for. I don't see why you had any more reason to assume the girls were 1. 2 M girls than 1. 4 M girls, so you should simply have asked IMO.

[Werqweq]

Yes and I do not blame him. It's the trust and faith factor between the client and Handler. Always have gone by his recommendation and only one time in the past I chose a 1. 4 M chick but he had clarified in advance with reference to her rate. Yesterday, too had pinged him in advance about my arrival and he had kept 2 chicks in mind for me but both of them were 1. 4 M chicks. I was not informed of the price and I just chose one out of them. Then the misunderstanding regarding the tip as I was not aware of the rule change. I have always paid 200 K but that was my choice not out of compulsion. Yesterday got to know of this rule so came as a bit of surprise. I had a polite discussion with him on the reception counter that I did not know all this hence the confusion. Called the chick down and handed her another 100 K as her tip. I will not be surprised if other clubs or bars also adopt the same strategy of minimum tip to the chicks. All in all, still a nice trip with a few minuses; part of mongering journey. It happens, so it's fine. Just wanted other members to be aware of before they take the call.

Regards.

Surprised to hear that. I've only been to Emporivm twice, both last week, but I did not see any indication that a tip is mandatory, and indeed it would suck if it now is. I'm surprised because:

1) Neither David, nor the mamsan I dealt with two days later, as David was not working, mentioned any tip.

2) The girl I went with, she asked me at the end how I wanted to give her her tip (LOL, who says I am going to give you a tip, honey? Via coupon, or cash). At first I had no idea what coupon meant, but she showed me a small slip of paper that had four options for "tipping for service" that you could tick: 100,000, 200,000, 500,000, 1000,000. And I did not notice any mention of it being mandatory either, so had service been bad I would have tipped nothing (and perhaps then found out it is mandatory at the counter later? Dunno).

As it was, I banged the girl twice without condom during our 90 minutes, so I guesstimated that a 500,000 should be a decent enough tip for that. Next time I, purely by coincidence, tipped 200,000 (happened to be the same chick). Service was good (the same), but only banged her twice.

[Volterra]

Just got my E-Visa in 10 min after a bit of a hiccup. If you have one of those new passport with a privacy protection film on the photo page, just know, while taking picture of it to upload, glare will distort the image quality to a degree that uploading process will reject it. Only way around is to take a black and white picture then upload unless you have access to one of those high end photo scanners but you would have to reduce the file size.

Also, just to confirm, if your country is eligible to E-visa, you will have access to e-gate at immigration. It should say at the bottom of the e-visa page.

Hope this helps everyone.

I second that. Seems there were some questions from guys in posts from recent months about logistical items re Jakarta. My experience getting set up last week was super easy and getting into / around Jakarkta is a lot easier than some posts led me to believe.

Getting set up and settled has been covered in various ways, but I think an occasional update helps for the un / less initiated:

1. Airport immigration and customs.

*eVoa.

- account. Set up an account at the Immigration website, but note that your information doesn't all transfer directly from account to eVOA application, and application has its own required information.

- application. Get your passport, passport-sized photo, and return / onward ticket docs ready in advance and you'll save time, but system seems stable now.

- I used Onward Ticket (US $16) for uploading an eTicket reservation and it worked no problem for getting eVOA; since the eVOA allows you to use the eGate at immigration; no one asked to see my onward ticket, but I had it printed and ready in case.

- definitely get eVOA in advance, there was a LONG line of people applying for VOA at airport around midnight, must have been 60-minute wait at least for them; I walked right past them and was out through eGate in seconds.

*eCustoms. I also filled out eCustoms form before I got on my flight; scanned me straight through at airport.

2. ATM. Used the HSBC ATM for my HSBC card before immigration, easy and less than 2 $ fee.

3. sim card and phone.

- Don't know what all the earlier fuss was about this. It works exactly the same as in Bangkok, Manila, etc. , super easy to set up.

- Around 5 sim card providers just outside arrival after customs, open 24 hours, got me set up with 65 GB for $30.

- Staff set up physical sim in my own phone, no special registration needed for 30 day stay (though they had to do the IMEI registration for the sim card only).

- Works immediately and I have exactly same data / calling in Jakarta as other major SE Asian locations.

4. Grab from airport. Super easy, convenient, and good service;.

- Grab has its own special stand (past Bluebird stand) to the left a ways out of airport exit; could add the highway toll in with the credit card payment, super nice staff and driver.

5. Traffic. Not as bad as some guys say; its like other Asian cities when they were building mass transit systems.

- Air is bad; recommend buying masks.

- Grab bike is easy, fun, and saves you half the time; usually arrives within 2 minutes; but your clothes will smell of exhaust.

6. Walking. Also not as bad as some guys say (wtf dudes); just walk on the edge of the street; exploring areas and smaller streets on foot has been fun and easy, but make sure you keep eyes in all directions for traffic, which is not difficult to adjust to.

7. ISG access. Easy access, same as everywhere (but with VPN). Using hotel wifi with my regular VPN.

My flight arrived at gate at 11:50 pm and I was checked into hotel room by 1:30 am. Imo smoother than Bangkok. These are my experiences coming in end of July. I'm enjoying city so much I'm giving dick a needed rest from July in PH before fully diving into Indo snatch.

[Vendelo]

I don't think I said I were disappointed with her looks?

And no, I did not pay here any money, but I did book a taxi via the Grab app (I set it up in Thailand long time ago, and fortunately it also works in Indonesia.) for her to come to the hotel. When she left, I offered to do the same (bike in this case, as she was in a hurry). It was just a normal "date", except usually girls arrange their own transport rather than asking me to book / pay it for them. Not sure I've ever been asked that before, but I thought ok, I've never met a hijab girl either, so who knows? It was just 5-6 km each way I think and cost the equivalent of a cup of coffee or something like that, so not even sure why she asked. Guessing it made her feel better for some reason that I was paying for her to come.

Oops. You are correct. I reread your hijab post and you didn't say you were disappointed with her looks. I am very interested with hijab girls We all have our kinks!

[Zippos]

I sure will give it Tinder a try this time as well bumble. I will just have to free up some time between meeting my both milfs and a very good friend. I think I can mange out of 2 weeks.

I think it was Westcoast or G or someone said, Indonesia always seems to be behind by a certain period. I guess same goes for Tinder girls too 😁. Like you said, there is absolutely no pint right now since you aren't even in the country.

Here is a fun fact, Indonesia is quoting IDR1,500,000 for 5 years tourist evisa. That's literally $930 and if you break it down that's equivalent to applying for 33 evisa! Whomever came up with that idea. Must be on some sort of special pills.

LOL, thank you.

I recommend giving tinder another go. IME, most of the girls on there in Jakarta are normal girls. As a white guy, I also got considerably more attraction in Jakarta on the dating apps than I do in Bangkok.

I recommend the Bumble app too.

It was difficult to meet these regular girls when I only had a few days though, since I'm not really handsome perhaps. The back and forth messaging goes on for days usually, and many just fizzle out, perhaps before contacting you again several days later. Like today and yesterday I got messages from several girls who I had been talking to while in Jakarta, but now there's no point.

[Zippos]

Thanks much for the input. I will update the list.

Let me know if you think of anything else.

Thank you Zippo. Just a note that 'toge' does not mean 'good' in a literal sense, but rather 'toket besar' or 'big tits'. Not listed here is 'tobrut', which means 'toket brutal' or even bigger tits. Both are good, I suppose! SHS likely means 'Senior High School' or SMA in Indonesian.

[Expat American]

I have banged 6 chicks in Emporium on my 2 trips so far. There was a report by a fellow traveler that a minimum tip of 200 K is mandatory to the chick. I was not aware of it as even on my this trip; I have been paying 200 K willingly so far without knowing this rule as I was mighty delighted with the chicks performance in the room.

Now, the chick that I banged today was greedy; ordered a corona despite me telling her No that neither I drink nor I smoke. She wanted to order fags also but did not, still went ahead with beer. The bill came to me and I had a polite discussion with the Papasan that I was not happy with the service as well. My 3 points raised were; the first one that you did not inform me of giving me a 1.4 M chick. I did not ask and he did not tell. Don't know, whose mistake it is. In his defense, he said I chose the best chick for you as per your need. I told him you should have informed me about the price point. I gave the chick 100 K as tip and she demanded more. I could not understand as we had a communication problem due to the language. My 2nd point was I am not happy with chicks service in room and I pay tip as per my choice and not as her matter of right. Then he informed me that the management changed the rule one month ago that it is mandatory. I said WTF. He said last time when you were here it was your wish but now it isn't. I called the chick down to the reception and gave her another 100 K. My third point was I told her that I do not drink or smoke and dissuaded as her as well but when I came out of shower post the swimming pool session she was holding a bottle of corona. She carried it with her to the room and drank it after our 90 minute session was over while I was having my shower. I conveyed all of this to Papasan and again the same excuse that she does not understand English language; she has been working there since a year. Offered me a 3 sum too in the room which I declined. So, overall an expense of 1.8 K today with an a polite argument at the end to just kind of be a spoiler of my mood. It is not about the money which has bugged me but as a matter of principle being a customer I should be informed first. I have made my displeasure known to the Papasan today.

I have had my share of wonderful and a few disappointing experiences here; picked chick from Bats and CJs, banged a chick from tinder, repeated my last trip chick, repeated a chick of this trip as well and 2 wow experience's at Emporium except today. My lips and tongue are hurting but still thirsty as I have done so much of DFK. My dick is angry at me and is expecting me to stop and let it rest for a while but it will happen when I am back in my hometown in a few days. It has been a learning experience.

Regards.

Interesting. I had top customer service at Emporium. I tipped 200 K as my my normal tip for good service. The first girl seemed a little disappointed (because she gave me BBFS) but didn't make a fuss. The second girl was more than happy with the amount. But I don't like the idea of it being mandatory. Then just raise the price. Tips should be incentive for service. I'm hoping your case is not the typical and something just got lost in translation. Otherwise we should assume the price to be 1. 4/1. 6 which is still cheaper than Thailand and even Philippines for equivalent quality girls so still not a deal breaker.

[Werqweq]

Here my friend, you made an historic milestone. Getting Tinder girls in exchange of Grab. Lucky you and happy for you.

I have had Badoo and Cupid girls for free but then I paid for their taxi and dinner but never a tinder. One of them actually accompanied me to Bangkok. My luck with Tinder being all high-fly golden pussy syndrome infected girls.

Keep her in loupe bud, will come in handy on a rainy day 😁.

LOL, thank you.

I recommend giving tinder another go. IME, most of the girls on there in Jakarta are normal girls. As a white guy, I also got considerably more attraction in Jakarta on the dating apps than I do in Bangkok.

I recommend the Bumble app too.

It was difficult to meet these regular girls when I only had a few days though, since I'm not really handsome perhaps. The back and forth messaging goes on for days usually, and many just fizzle out, perhaps before contacting you again several days later. Like today and yesterday I got messages from several girls who I had been talking to while in Jakarta, but now there's no point.

[DevSagar]

Yes and I do not blame him. It's the trust and faith factor between the client and Handler. Always have gone by his recommendation and only one time in the past I chose a 1. 4 M chick but he had clarified in advance with reference to her rate. Yesterday, too had pinged him in advance about my arrival and he had kept 2 chicks in mind for me but both of them were 1. 4 M chicks. I was not informed of the price and I just chose one out of them. Then the misunderstanding regarding the tip as I was not aware of the rule change. I have always paid 200 K but that was my choice not out of compulsion. Yesterday got to know of this rule so came as a bit of surprise. I had a polite discussion with him on the reception counter that I did not know all this hence the confusion. Called the chick down and handed her another 100 K as her tip. I will not be surprised if other clubs or bars also adopt the same strategy of minimum tip to the chicks. All in all, still a nice trip with a few minuses; part of mongering journey. It happens, so it's fine. Just wanted other members to be aware of before they take the call.

Regards.

Looks like Emporium is trying to up their game as well. When you say Papasam / Handler, are we talking about David? As long as I've known him, he is very transparent and listens to what client desires.

[Member #3088]

Here it is, possibly most completed TERMS AND ABBREVIATIONS IN THE WORLD OF SEXPEDITION Indonesia. Special thanks to fellow mongers, Kimochi, Classic, Segitia and KUY group to add their input and define most common words that can be understood by different regions of Indonesia.

1. BJ: Oral Sex. Seks oral.

2. HJ: Onani / Masturbation. Masturbasi.

3. FJ: Having Sex. Bersetubuh.

4. ML: Make Love (Having Sex) - Bersetubuh.

5. FK: French Kiss / Fucking Kiss. French Kiss / Fucking Kiss.

6. FF: Finger Fuck (Putting Fingers Into Vagina) - Masukkin Jari Ke Vagina.

7. MOT: Man On The Top. Co Di Atas.

8. WOT: Woman On The Top. Cw Di Atas.

9. DS: Doggy Style. Doggy Style.

10. DC: Damage Cost. Damage Cost.

11. GFE: Girl Friend Experience. Girl Friend Experience.

12. WP: Female Entertainer. Wanita Penghibur.

13. NPWP: Female Call Number. Nomor Punggung Wanita Panggilan.

14. PP: Massage Parlor. Panti Pijat.

15. SSI: Speak Speak Iblis. Speak Speak Iblis.

16. ST: Short Time. Short Time.

17. *LT*: Long Time. Long Time.

18. Polda: Kitchen Police (wife) - Polisi Dapur (Isteri).

19. *CT*: Classic Terminal.

20. *Blok T*: Travel Hotel.

21. *Blok see*: Classic Hotel.

22. *Blok A*: Alexis Hotel (RIP. A great loss to the punters).

23. *BB*: Bintang Baru Hotel.

24. *HS*: Hill Side Hotel.

25. *CIF*: Cum In Face. Keluar di Muka.

26. CIM: Cum In Mouth (Out in Mouth) - Keluar di Mulut.

27. Corn Fur: WP who is still a teenager. Bulu Jagung*: WP yang masih abg.

28. Panlok: WP of Chinese descent. Panlok*: WP Keturunan Chinese.

29. *BM*: Body Massage.

30. LC: Lady Companion (Usually found in karaoke places) -*LC*: Lady Companion (Biasanya ada di tempat2 karaoke).

31. BD: Back Door (Anal Sex).

32. *SHS*: Sex History Speak (don't know what that means!

33. Kondie / Caps / Tameng: Condom. Kondom.

34. *Toge*: Good. Toge*: baik.

35. Tobi: good Savage. Tobi*: baik Biadab.

36. Nocan: Beautiful Number (wp cellphone number / masseuse number at PP) - Nomor Cantik (no hp wp / no pemijat di PP).

37. Therapist: Female masseuse at PP. Therapis*: Wanita pemijat di PP.

38. RO: Repeat Order (FJ with the same girl at different times) -*RO*: Repeat Order (FJ dengan cewe yang sama dalam waktu berbeda).

39. *MMC*: Mimik mimik Cucu.

40. Good -.

41. FOC: Free of Charge (free ML) - ML gratisan.

42. TO: Operation Target. Target Operasi.

43. Red sheet = Rp 100,000 - lembar merah*= Rp 100.000.

44. Blue sheet = Rp 50,000 - lembar biru*= Rp 50.000.

45. Green sheet = Rp 20,000 -*lembar hijau*= Rp 20.000.

46. BSH = Barisan Sakit Hati. Barisan Sakit Hati.

47. PK*= Oversleep hero / loser who likes to report. Pahlawan Kesiangan / pecundang yg suka melapor.

48. *Mimin*= mindik-mindik.

49. *Anjelo*= pick-up and drop-off for housemaids. Antar jemput pramuria.

50. *BBW*= Big Beautiful Woman. Wanita Cantik dan Besar.

51. *Benerin tile*= going upstairs (entering the room with the WP) -*Benerin genteng*= naek ke atas (masuk ke kamar bersama sang WP).

52. *Big "O"*= orgasm. Orgasm, orgasme.

53. *Binor*= someone's wife. Bini orang.

54. *BU*= needs money (like a sales and buy) -*BU*= butuh uang (kayak iklan jual beli).

55. *Buang tai macan*= throw away / expel sperm or semen. Buang tai macan*= buang / keluarin sperma atau sperma.

56. *Maize hair*= smelly teenager who has just started growing hair. Bulu jagung*= abg bau kencur yg baru mulai tumbuh bulu.

57. *Diesel*= sucked until annoyed. Diisep sampe kesel.

58. *GRO*= Guest Relation Officer. Guest Relation Officer.

59. *MK: Cat Bath. Mandi Kucing.

60. *JM: lick miss v. Jilat miss v.

61. *LD*: Ladies Drink.

62. *STW*: Half Old -*STW*: Setengah TuWa.

63. *MILF*: Mom I'd like to fuck.

64. *PM: Pick Mango (either combined with massaging other vital parts around the penis) - Petik Mangga (baik yang dikombinasikan dengan mengurut bagian vital lainnya di sekitar penis).

65. *Kutilang*: THIN Tall SLIMMING. KUrus TInggi LANGsing.

66. *PHP*: Giver of False Hope. Pemberi Harapan Palsu.

67. *FL*: Free Lancer.

68. *SD*: Sexy Dancer.

69. *KC*: King Cross.

70. *MS*: Healthy Massage. Massage Sehat.

71. *JM*: Lick squid. Jilat cumi.

72. CK: Wash Under, lick the anus. Cuci Kolong jilat lobang anus.

73. Bookingan, Bispak, Bokep, Bisyar (basically hookers).

74. ABG (Anak Baru Gede: young girl).

75. Jak Sel (selatan: south), Pus (pusat: CBD).

76. Include / exclude (hotel cost).

77. DP (Deposit, NOT Double Penetration!

Happy Safe Mongering, Zippo.

Thank you Zippo. Just a note that 'toge' does not mean 'good' in a literal sense, but rather 'toket besar' or 'big tits'. Not listed here is 'tobrut', which means 'toket brutal' or even bigger tits. Both are good, I suppose! SHS likely means 'Senior High School' or SMA in Indonesian.

[Zippos]

Just got my E-Visa in 10 min after a bit of a hiccup. If you have one of those new passport with a privacy protection film on the photo page, just know, while taking picture of it to upload, glare will distort the image quality to a degree that uploading process will reject it. Only way around is to take a black and white picture then upload unless you have access to one of those high end photo scanners but you would have to reduce the file size.

Also, just to confirm, if your country is eligible to E-visa, you will have access to e-gate at immigration. It should say at the bottom of the e-visa page.

Hope this helps everyone.

[Zippos]

Forgot to respond on ChaCha, she is one of the nice ones there and doesn't work on a vulture style. Another one I like and trust is Jeni. Last one is Henni, she listens to me and finds what I desire even if she needs to get it from other Mamma. Only thing I don't like about her is her shark syndrome. She would sit in my table and ask for lady drink, smoke and anything else you can think off! I in-fact once told her, "let me take you to the room and milk you 😁.

Offer chacha if you desire, you never know, she might surprise you 😉.

Well, I will bow to your experience and apologise for what is probably my error then. I don't think I asked the mamasan (Cha-Cha, which I kind of liked) if two girls at Classic gave more time, but instead for some reason just assumed it did not. Probably this was due to two girls costing just 150,000 more than one girl, while two hours instead of one hour costs 700,000. So it doesn't really make any sense that paying 150,000 more will give you both an extra half hour and an extra girl, while paying 350,000 more gives you just one more hour. I mean, wtf?

When the phone then started to ring after one hour, I just took that as confirmation. At that time I was already showered and dressed anyway, as I assumed time was running out and I'm not going to fuck them again in whatever few minutes are left. Had I known there were half an hour left, I might have played it differently.

[Zippos]

Looks like Emporium is trying to up their game as well. When you say Papasam / Handler, are we talking about David? As long as I've known him, he is very transparent and listens to what client desires.

I have banged 6 chicks in Emporium on my 2 trips so far. There was a report by a fellow traveler that a minimum tip of 200 K is mandatory to the chick. I was not aware of it as even on my this trip; I have been paying 200 K willingly so far without knowing this rule as I was mighty delighted with the chicks performance in the room.

Now, the chick that I banged today was greedy; ordered a corona despite me telling her No that neither I drink nor I smoke. She wanted to order fags also but did not, still went ahead with beer. The bill came to me and I had a polite discussion with the Papasan that I was not happy with the service as well. My 3 points raised were; the first one that you did not inform me of giving me a 1.4 M chick. I did not ask and he did not tell. Don't know, whose mistake it is. In his defense, he said I chose the best chick for you as per your need. I told him you should have informed me about the price point. I gave the chick 100 K as tip and she demanded more. I could not understand as we had a communication problem due to the language. My 2nd point was I am not happy with chicks service in room and I pay tip as per my choice and not as her matter of right. Then he informed me that the management changed the rule one month ago that it is mandatory. I said WTF. He said last time when you were here it was your wish but now it isn't. I called the chick down to the reception and gave her another 100 K. My third point was I told her that I do not drink or smoke and dissuaded as her as well but when I came out of shower post the swimming pool session she was holding a bottle of corona. She carried it with her to the room and drank it after our 90 minute session was over while I was having my shower. I conveyed all of this to Papasan and again the same excuse that she does not understand English language; she has been working there since a year. Offered me a 3 sum too in the room which I declined. So, overall an expense of 1.8 K today with an a polite argument at the end to just kind of be a spoiler of my mood. It is not about the money which has bugged me but as a matter of principle being a customer I should be informed first. I have made my displeasure known to the Papasan today.

I have had my share of wonderful and a few disappointing experiences here; picked chick from Bats and CJs, banged a chick from tinder, repeated my last trip chick, repeated a chick of this trip as well and 2 wow experience's at Emporium except today. My lips and tongue are hurting but still thirsty as I have done so much of DFK. My dick is angry at me and is expecting me to stop and let it rest for a while but it will happen when I am back in my hometown in a few days. It has been a learning experience.

Regards.