American Politics

[Spidy]

Oh, because the recent polls are not in our favor? Yeah, Trump is at -118. You bet $100 and you get $118 for Trump. Harris at -110. You bet $110 and you win $100. So the odds are in your favor for now, and they will be until Trump attacks Harris for who she is. What you do not get is her support is an inch deep, and Trump has historically done better than the polls indicate.

For black people, it needs to be said Kamala's black father disowned her. She was putting black men in jail right and left. Particularly with black men, she needs to be told she is not your friend. According to her birth certificate, she is 25% black, and the only reason she claims to be black is she wants your vote. For God's sake, her relatives owned slaves. I have not seen that point be made.

And for white people, ask her why she is so ashamed of being 75% white. Is it the slave owning thing? Is race a choice now too? That is the thing with Democrats. Trump should say they call people like me racist and sexist while they claim that sex is a choice and Kamala chooses whatever race she thinks benefits her in the polls. You did not grow up in the hood. Heck, you did not even have the typical American educational experience. Most of your childhood you grew up in Canada.

Hogwash!

Yes, by all means reach into that birther bag, of racist nonsense, as if the percentage (%) of the racial makeup of a candidate means anything over the content of their character and what they represent and stand for.

Trump's father was a racist who attended KKK rallies. Trump identifies with Hitler and has been called "America's Hitler" by his own veep, JD Vance, whom he chose and is now having buyer's remorse.

Trump is a felon, convict, charlatan, crook, overall cheat (at business taxes, golf and life), sex offender and adulterer. I think those things speaks more to the content of one's character than any hereditary racial and ethnic trait or characteristics, that are out of one's control.

Who are you, to question how someone wishes to identify?

Elvis 2008, by the same token and illogic, I'm surprised your not asking, if JD Vance, isn't ashamed of being white, since he did not marry a women, who is 100% white? (If even being 100% is a real thing?)

The press have vilified her and thinks he didn't exactly defend his wife very well when asked about all the attacks with regards to his non-white wife. And please explain why are white supremacists so upset and outraged and attacking, Usha Chilukuri Vance for not being white? And why does her son have a name like Vivek?

'Total loser': J.D. Vance fumes after Trump's white supremacist pal attacks his wife
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...fe/ar-AA1oBTPz

Your post is yet just another stupid nonsensical rant, in a long line culture war rants, wanting to stir up shit where there is none!

Just like you idiot Repubs/QAnon/MAGA numbskulls do, with cartoon and fictional characters, like purple Dinosaurs and purple Teletube Babies. Just Pathetic!

Kamala did not have to campaign and right now she is not campaigning. All she is doing is going around telling people what they want to hear. That is fine. Let her. Wait for a few months and then ask the question, what does she stand for and whom does she represent? She did not win your vote to be the Democratic candidate right? She won the votes of the elite, and that is who she represents not you. She will do whatever George Clooney wants but not you.

(...kkkk!) You must be joking, right? We still don't know what Trump stands for (after over 1-year of campaigning) other than tax-cuts for the rich and "drill baby drill", both of which do very little to help hard working Americans, navigate the competitive future labor, manufacturing and business markets ahead.

Trump has Truth Social which is worth billions and hotels ETC. He does not need to be president to make money. Kamala does. Trump can draw people even if he is not president. Can she? Kamala owes people an unprecedented amount of favors, and the biggest racket for money making is war. The woman wants power not to do good but for herself. She wants power for fame and money. She will not use it for you the people. You are only there to give her your money to her and your attention for her fame. Ask the question, why does she want to be president?

Yes money is nice, but those who think it is everything above all else, are lost to what the job of presidency is really about. Trump cares nothing for serving his country and being the narcissist that he is, believes America should serve him.

The woman has no soul. If she were from Texas, she would be a mixed female Republican. She is not RFK Jr. A lifelong Democrat who has fought corporate America for the little guy and has truly dedicated his life to the health of Americans. What has Kamala Harris ever done? Kiss ass. She kissed Willie Brown's ass. She kissed Biden's ass and now she is kissing the ass of the American people.

Admit it Tooms. You do not know her. If she did not have Democrat after her name, you would have nothing to do with her.

I will give you this Tooms. If Trump does not show America who she really is, there is a good chance she wins and for now, he is not doing it. He has not even given her a nickname. My preference would be chameleon Kamala.

Your funny! (...kkkk!) You should take a good look at your own candidate. Trump is not only is soulless, but is heartless, godless, faithless, gutless, remorseless, emotionless and thoughtless. But all that flawed content of character means nothing to you, perhaps because you can self-relate to his ilk and his emotional and empathetic bankruptcy?

Come ROEvember, you'll come to find out America wants nothing more to do with him.

[Xpartan]

Here is yet another good reason to highlight the surge in the uptick of voters for Harris in Arizona and Nevada, identified in your polling data.

• Note: BTW, although I'm not necessarily a huge "elections polls guy", please keep 'em coming, as they are much appreciated, even though some "others", suddenly don't care what the polls are now showing (...kkkk!)

The Harris/Walz campaign, has just received the nation's oldest Latino Civil Rights Group endorsement. The League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), makes the first-ever presidential endorsement, for Harris.

Conservative Latino Group Makes First Presidential Endorsement in 100 years
https://www.newsweek.com/latino-grou...ection-1937246

So with the:

--Black Women for Harris, Black Men for Harris, White Women for Harris, White Dudes for Harris, Republicans for Harris

AND NOW:

--Latinos for Harris

Are all great signs, that the Harris/Walz campaign, is making all kinds of new records, inroads and connecting with Americans of all stripes, that are keen voters, volunteers and donors, that are getting behind the Harris/Walz campaign, for the big push to win in ROEvember. Especially with a strong WOMEN's vote and now thanks to LULAC, a strong Latino vote.

PS: Xpartan, I think this may be the type of "Conservative/Repub" centrist (or center-right) swing voter/movement, you were hoping for, but wasn't sure Harris would ever get?

Maybe. She's already doing better than I thought she would.

[EihTooms]

Oh, because the recent polls are not in our favor? Yeah, Trump is at -118. You bet $100 and you get $118 for Trump. Harris at -110. You bet $110 and you win $100. So the odds are in your favor for now, and they will be until Trump attacks Harris for who she is. What you do not get is her support is an inch deep, and Trump has historically done better than the polls indicate.

For black people, it needs to be said Kamala's black father disowned her. She was putting black men in jail right and left. Particularly with black men, she needs to be told she is not your friend. According to her birth certificate, she is 25% black, and the only reason she claims to be black is she wants your vote. For God's sake, her relatives owned slaves. I have not seen that point be made.

And for white people, ask her why she is so ashamed of being 75% white. Is it the slave owning thing? Is race a choice now too? That is the thing with Democrats. Trump should say they call people like me racist and sexist while they claim that sex is a choice and Kamala chooses whatever race she thinks benefits her in the polls. You did not grow up in the hood. Heck, you did not even have the typical American educational experience. Most of your childhood you grew up in Canada.

Kamala did not have to campaign and right now she is not campaigning. All she is doing is going around telling people what they want to hear. That is fine. Let her. Wait for a few months and then ask the question, what does she stand for and whom does she represent? She did not win your vote to be the Democratic candidate right? She won the votes of the elite, and that is who she represents not you. She will do whatever George Clooney wants but not you..

The fact that Harris is a Democrat and has been #2 in a Democratic Presidential Administration whose positive accomplishments for America and the spread of democracy around the world far outperformed most other Dem Administrations and ALL Repub Administrations is all I would have needed to know about Harris to fully endorse and vote for her. Although it is unavoidable that I do know more about her than that. And none of what I know, see and hear overrides that former overwhelming argument for any sane, patriotic American like me to support and vote for her.

Add to which we all know Trump very, very well and only an America-hating lunatic would want more of what that Repub brings to the table. As is true of virtually any Repub, of course, based on the overwhelming historical pattern of their policy and stewardship results vs that of the Dems.

Oh, here is the latest on the Presidential Betting Odds Consensus as posted on the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics site and as it currently appears on the Predictlt Betting Site, one of the more popular and followed sites, since you are very much into the idea that bets on the outcome in some way changes or influences the outcome:

[Tiny 12]

I've wasted too much time in this thread so have sworn it off, but am stopping by to reply to Paulie's off-topic comments elsewhere.

P.S. By extension I want to thank the many dentally challenged at Trump rallies that pass along not only this, but varieties of other truths they are privy to, not only though the grapevine but through their social media accounts and other online "sources" that specialize in truth. These, who are always quick to remind us we are reading in the wrong places are the real heroes here.

Dear Paulie,

Trump's definitely got the right idea on Ukraine -- try to bring the two sides together to negotiate a peace. But he's almost as likely as the other jokers in Washington to get the USA in a war with Iran or China. His trade wars suck, as does his idea to politicize the Fed. And while not as bad as most high profile Democrats, he's a spendthrift. Most importantly, he tried to steal an election. If I'm allowed to vote, it won't be for Trump. Or Kamala, she's worse than Trump. My vote will go to Chase Oliver. He's "armed and gay. " While Chase's gayness may not comport with your and my idea of a manly man, he'd keep the USA out of conflicts where it doesn't belong. He wouldn't cater to the military industrial alliance.

Speaking of which, I shall pray that you someday see the light, like your favorite president, Dwight D. Eisenhower did. Eisenhower did more to cater to the military establishment and arms industry than any president in post World War II America. But in the end he came around. I hope some day you do too.

"Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime.

....This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence economic, political, even spiritual is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government.

....In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

....We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together."

--- Dwight David Eisenhower

The worldwide military industrial complex is gaining power and money from the Ukraine conflict -- another good reason to pursue an end to this madness.

Kind regards,

Tiny

[EihTooms]

Here is yet another good reason to highlight the surge in the uptick of voters for Harris in Arizona and Nevada, identified in your polling data.

• Note: BTW, although I'm not necessarily a huge "elections polls guy", please keep 'em coming, as they are much appreciated, even though some "others", suddenly don't care what the polls are now showing (...kkkk!)

The Harris/Walz campaign, has just received the nation's oldest Latino Civil Rights Group endorsement. The League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), makes the first-ever presidential endorsement, for Harris.

Conservative Latino Group Makes First Presidential Endorsement in 100 years
https://www.newsweek.com/latino-grou...ection-1937246..

I too am not a big believer in polls "predicting" a presidential election outcome. Especially months before the election. But I saw others here celebrating and counting the days to the next Great Repub Depression, Great Repub Recession, Massive Repub Jobs Destruction and whatever new Great Repub Once in 100 Years Disaster that will surely accompany the next Repub presidency based on the recent (not current) polls.

What can be said about the polls for the most part over the years is a Consensus of Polls for the presidential race 2-3 days before election day tends to land within a normal +/-MoE of the actual vote. LOL. Which is a pretty low bar to achieve. Just about all of such Consensus of Polls can be arguably right and arguably wrong on that basis.

It turns out polls are not predictive of a Presidential election win. Neither are debate performances, age, money spent on the campaign, the VP candidate choice, lawn signs, rally crowd sizes and a whole host of other factors most professional and amateur pundits think predict the winner when history has been fairly clear they don't.

[Xpartan]

Civil War? Would you any idea what hyperbole is?

Yes, I do, and it doesn't sound like this:

Let there be a Civil War 2.0. And all the smart money will be on the red team with all the guns.

Now that your hyperbole claim is settled, there is this:

https://nypost.com/2024/08/08/us-new...thood-scandal

So are you trying to say baby butchers kill babies that are fake?

No, I'm saying that your "baby butchers" are fake.

This POS video recorded by a professional conservative provocateur who had been trying to frame Planned Parenthood for years, was thoroughly debunked in 2015. Now the above-mentioned POS (the provocateur) released another 20 seconds of an expletive-laced exchange that mean precisely shit.

It would take a very special type of, well, thinker to buy this shit.

Planned Parenthood: Fact v. Fiction

https://oversightdemocrats.house.gov...fact-v-fiction

Planned Parenthood Investigations Find No Fetal Tissue Sales

https://www.npr.org/2016/01/28/46459...l-tissue-sales

[Spidy]

Ah. While we wait a few minutes longer for the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics polling site to shift Pennsylvania from Trump to Harris in their No Toss-Up States Electoral College Map as they did recently with Wisconsin and Michigan, the poll lovers here might be interested to know that the 538 site is now showing Harris with a small but trending lead in Arizona along with her lead Nationally, in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Virginia (among their Battleground States list) and half of a percentage point from a lead in Georgia.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

And Nate Silver's Silver Bulletin now has Harris taking a new lead in Arizona and Nevada along with her lead Nationally, in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Virginia, with only a 1 percentage point distance from a lead in Georgia:

https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-si...on-polls-model

So the post-Republican National Convention Clown Show Festival of Blithering Lies campaign donations, campaign rally crowds and polling numbers Flight to Dems and the Dem Presidential Candidate continues at a steady pace.

And this is before Harris' likely Democratic National Convention boost, her likely Trump 34 Felony Conviction Sentencing boost and her likely 2nd blathering, non answer, lie-filled Trump debate boost.

Again, this would only be of interest to those who are into and enjoy citing the polls. You know, like a few posters here used to be but don't seem to be so much anymore.

Here is yet another good reason to highlight the surge in the uptick of voters for Harris in Arizona and Nevada, identified in your polling data.

• Note: BTW, although I'm not necessarily a huge "elections polls guy", please keep 'em coming, as they are much appreciated, even though some "others", suddenly don't care what the polls are now showing (...kkkk!)

The Harris/Walz campaign, has just received the nation's oldest Latino Civil Rights Group endorsement. The League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC), makes the first-ever presidential endorsement, for Harris.

Conservative Latino Group Makes First Presidential Endorsement in 100 years
https://www.newsweek.com/latino-grou...ection-1937246

So with the:

--Black Women for Harris, Black Men for Harris, White Women for Harris, White Dudes for Harris, Republicans for Harris

AND NOW:

--Latinos for Harris

Are all great signs, that the Harris/Walz campaign, is making all kinds of new records, inroads and connecting with Americans of all stripes, that are keen voters, volunteers and donors, that are getting behind the Harris/Walz campaign, for the big push to win in ROEvember. Especially with a strong WOMEN's vote and now thanks to LULAC, a strong Latino vote.

PS: Xpartan, I think this may be the type of "Conservative/Repub" centrist (or center-right) swing voter/movement, you were hoping for, but wasn't sure Harris would ever get?

[Elvis 2008]

And this is before Harris' likely Democratic National Convention boost, her likely Trump 34 Felony Conviction Sentencing boost and her likely 2nd blathering, non answer, lie-filled Trump debate boost.

Again, this would only be of interest to those who are into and enjoy citing the polls. You know, like a few posters here used to be but don't seem to be so much anymore.

Oh, because the recent polls are not in our favor? Yeah, Trump is at -118. You bet $100 and you get $118 for Trump. Harris at -110. You bet $110 and you win $100. So the odds are in your favor for now, and they will be until Trump attacks Harris for who she is. What you do not get is her support is an inch deep, and Trump has historically done better than the polls indicate.

For black people, it needs to be said Kamala's black father disowned her. She was putting black men in jail right and left. Particularly with black men, she needs to be told she is not your friend. According to her birth certificate, she is 25% black, and the only reason she claims to be black is she wants your vote. For God's sake, her relatives owned slaves. I have not seen that point be made.

And for white people, ask her why she is so ashamed of being 75% white. Is it the slave owning thing? Is race a choice now too? That is the thing with Democrats. Trump should say they call people like me racist and sexist while they claim that sex is a choice and Kamala chooses whatever race she thinks benefits her in the polls. You did not grow up in the hood. Heck, you did not even have the typical American educational experience. Most of your childhood you grew up in Canada.

Kamala did not have to campaign and right now she is not campaigning. All she is doing is going around telling people what they want to hear. That is fine. Let her. Wait for a few months and then ask the question, what does she stand for and whom does she represent? She did not win your vote to be the Democratic candidate right? She won the votes of the elite, and that is who she represents not you. She will do whatever George Clooney wants but not you.

Trump has Truth Social which is worth billions and hotels ETC. He does not need to be president to make money. Kamala does. Trump can draw people even if he is not president. Can she? Kamala owes people an unprecedented amount of favors, and the biggest racket for money making is war. The woman wants power not to do good but for herself. She wants power for fame and money. She will not use it for you the people. You are only there to give her your money to her and your attention for her fame. Ask the question, why does she want to be president?

The woman has no soul. If she were from Texas, she would be a mixed female Republican. She is not RFK Jr. A lifelong Democrat who has fought corporate America for the little guy and has truly dedicated his life to the health of Americans. What has Kamala Harris ever done? Kiss ass. She kissed Willie Brown's ass. She kissed Biden's ass and now she is kissing the ass of the American people.

Admit it Tooms. You do not know her. If she did not have Democrat after her name, you would have nothing to do with her.

I will give you this Tooms. If Trump does not show America who she really is, there is a good chance she wins and for now, he is not doing it. He has not even given her a nickname. My preference would be chameleon Kamala.

[Spidy]

https://nypost.com/2024/08/08/us-new...thood-scandal/

These babys arms and legs and organs are not flesh and blood? What are they, plastic?

So are you trying to say baby butchers kill babies that are fake?

And then you say I shouldn't worry about dead babies? WOW are you drunk?

Please get back to me, when this tired, 9-year old and 2015 "alleged scandal", blatant hearsay, innuendo and unverified information, in your article becomes factual news and not just another hack and hatchet-job, to throw against the wall and see what sticks, against the Harris/Walz campaign.

Can you provide any new, recent or UPDATED information w/r to your "baby butcher" cabal? Other than a news article that is attempting to link the "alleged scandal" back in 2015, with Veep Harris who just happen to be in office?

By all accounts, it sounds a bit like a Senator Katie Britt's SOTU response meme? I mean, sure Biden (in this case Harris) was in office at the time, but WTF?

BTW, I know how you just love to throw around this recycled winger slogan from 2015 and use the term interchangeably with "killing", like a winger with an AR-15 magazines on a shooting spree, but when does your so called "baby butchering" start and end? At child trafficking? Pizzagate?

[SubCmdr]

The hypocrisy of pro life people is that they only care about the baby in the womb. Once it is born they are against all government policies to assist a mother to take care of their newborn baby!

[CheckMate1]

I wasn't shitting on Marquise. Sorry if I come across that way.

I believe that when it comes to the subject of Abortion, War or Death Penalty, the Republican has always been, shall we say, flexible on their choices. And that's okay, you can choose Death Penalty and not Abortion, or war instead of Abortion. But they allow zero flexibility for others to choose War not Abortion, or Death Penalty not Abortion, or any other combination.

Debates can be had with the second amendment, but don't call yourself Pro Life if you are willing to take a life to defend yourself, while opposing abortion. Because I'll defend you on protecting yourself to my last breathe, but unlikely that you'll defend someone who makes similar choice in their life to protect themselves.

[CheckMate1]

https://nypost.com/2024/08/08/us-new...thood-scandal/

These babys arms and legs and organs are not flesh and blood? What are they, plastic?

So are you trying to say baby butchers kill babies that are fake?

And then you say I shouldn't worry about dead babies? WOW are you drunk?

Glad you have strong conviction on this issue. You can choose to not abort in your family.

Now, Mine your own damn business!

Party of Life should not endorse abortion, wars, and death penalty. If one chooses any of the three is disqualified as Pro Life.

[MarquisdeSade1]

You have called for a civil war in this country multiple times.

Real, flesh-and-blood babies die in a civil war.

Ergo: you should be the last person on earth to be worrying about dead babies.

https://nypost.com/2024/08/08/us-new...thood-scandal/

These babys arms and legs and organs are not flesh and blood? What are they, plastic?

So are you trying to say baby butchers kill babies that are fake?

And then you say I shouldn't worry about dead babies? WOW are you drunk?

[EihTooms]

Ah. While we wait a few minutes longer for the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics polling site to shift Pennsylvania from Trump to Harris in their No Toss-Up States Electoral College Map as they did recently with Wisconsin and Michigan, the poll lovers here might be interested to know that the 538 site is now showing Harris with a small but trending lead in Arizona along with her lead Nationally, in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Virginia (among their Battleground States list) and half of a percentage point from a lead in Georgia.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

And Nate Silver's Silver Bulletin now has Harris taking a new lead in Arizona and Nevada along with her lead Nationally, in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Virginia, with only a 1 percentage point distance from a lead in Georgia:

https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-si...on-polls-model

So the post-Republican National Convention Clown Show Festival of Blithering Lies campaign donations, campaign rally crowds and polling numbers Flight to Dems and the Dem Presidential Candidate continues at a steady pace.

And this is before Harris' likely Democratic National Convention boost, her likely Trump 34 Felony Conviction Sentencing boost and her likely 2nd blathering, non answer, lie-filled Trump debate boost.

Again, this would only be of interest to those who are into and enjoy citing the polls. You know, like a few posters here used to be but don't seem to be so much anymore.

[Xpartan]

You must be a fan of butchering of babies not unlike ISGs #1 Cheerleader MrSpidy.

Where is your comment about that link, you have a twisted comment about everything else, but why not that.

You have called for a civil war in this country multiple times.

Real, flesh-and-blood babies die in a civil war.

Ergo: you should be the last person on earth to be worrying about dead babies.