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08-18-24 07:51 #15292Senior Member

Posts: 1745Vegas isn't betting on the Military Vote for Tweedledum and Tweedledee either...
While "others" are no longer quoting their ever loving Vegas Odds (not that I think they're a real indicator of victory, but) I was interested in seeing what Vegas was NOW saying:
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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Harris becomes betting favorite in presidential election odds after swing state barnstorm
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...rm/ar-AA1oEqRd
Trader Up $500,000 Betting On Kamala Harris, Could Make Another $1M If The Vice President Wins The Election
https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cry...-president-win
Look at that, Harris is already making people rich! (...kkkk$)
BTW, well you did say:
Speaking of a yet another Tweedledum flip-flop, this time gaslighting Americans, and defending Tweedledee's so called love of the military and his disrespectful false medal equivalencies gaffe, the uproar among the military was visibly upsetting, especially veterans with MOHs.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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- Medal Of Honor (MOH) recipients, came out to say: "Trump has no clue about Military service or what it means to serve your country. Or to put others before/above yourself. Or what it means for self-sacrifice, for your fellow soldiers, countrymen, or brothers-in-arms."
Needless to say the backlash was swift and harsh for the Tweedledum/Tweedledee campaign, that it doesn't look good for the military vote either!
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08-18-24 02:11 #15291Senior Member

Posts: 2386A comment and a question. The definitive, after-the-fact study of the 2000 election was done by a group of 8 newspapers, the New York Times, The WSJ, the Tribune Company, the Washington Post, the AP, the St. Petersburg Times, the Palm Beach Post, and CNN. They went back and counted all the hanging chads et cetera and determined Bush would have won anyway if the Supreme Court hadn't stopped the count.
Allan "Rudy Giuliani" Lichtman apparently is approaching the problem from a different angle. I'd like to know how whoever was counting votes knew whether a ballot was marked by a black person or a white person. Lichtman's argument sounds racist to me, that minority voters don't know how to mark ballots.
That's not to say that we might not have been better off under Gore. Maybe Gore wouldn't have invaded Iraq.
And now the question. Elvis brought up Kamala Harris' involvement in getting FOSTA and SESTA passed. I haven't seen a peep out of anyone about that. How do you gentlemen feel about publishing reports here, knowing that Kamala's legislation might just get you or the owners of this site that we treasure thrown in jail? Kamala Harris is not the Monger's Friend.
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08-18-24 01:11 #15290Senior Member

Posts: 1745Method to the madness! (...me circling back)
I didn't see this initially on the MSNBC webpage, but for those who may also have missed it, this 6 minute audio, sums up nicely the madness, mendacity and the absence of shame, to the everyday pernicious lies, now being perpetrated as truth, by the newly converted gullible GOP/Republican party, into a "Trumpian Hellscape".
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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(6-min.) Method to the madness, is a foundation of lies, built on four (4) pernicious pillars:
https://soundcloud.com/harperaudio_u...by-steve-benen
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08-18-24 00:33 #15289Senior Member

Posts: 1745Allan Lichtman is right, the 2000 Election was stolen...
Your absolutely right, it is pretty egregious!
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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Lichtman is right, it was stolen! Is it any wonder why, Trump has been targeting, all of the Black and Brown counties and communities, in the key battleground states, and lying, claiming widespread election fraud? With the intent of pulling the same false narratives w/r to those communities votes being "rejected".
YES, indeed the stolen 2000 Election due to the fraudulent rejection of votes in Florida, was IMHO, the blue print for Repubs and Trump. It was the testing ground and proof positive, that if we (Repubs) at attack, disenfranchise and destroy, these Black and Brown minority communities ability to vote, grants us a clearer path to victory.
The 2000 Election is definitely a great case great, for those studying, Constitution and Voting Rights Election Laws. But serves as a reminder, that cases like this, is THE ONLY WAY, that Repubs know how to win, as this same scenario, is played out in different battle ground states, each election cycle.
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08-17-24 21:43 #15288Senior Member

Posts: 2386Excerpts from WSJ Editorial Today
Kamala Harris is a dumb *****. Leave it to a Progressive Democratic politician to come up with a plan that will create a black market in milk. If she plans to enforce the price controls on the supermarkets, then given they only have 2% margins, they'll go out of business. Welcome to Venezuela!
We wrote Friday that Kamala Harris was likely to continue President Biden's unfinished Build Back Better agenda, but it turns out we were far too optimistic. The policy priorities the Vice President laid out Friday are much worse, including a plan to impose national price controls on food and groceries.
Ms. Harris's political problem is that the Biden-Harris economic policies have delivered inflation and declining real incomes. The high price of food is a particular sore point, and the Vice President's response is to make it worse by resorting to Venezuelan-style left-wing populism. That's no exaggeration.
On Friday she floated a "first-ever federal ban on price gouging on food and groceries," including "new authority" for the Federal Trade Commission and state attorneys general to punish companies for charging too much.
This sounds like legislation introduced by Sen. Elizabeth Warren that would ban "grossly excessive prices" as determined by the Federal Trade Commission. Business violations would carry a penalty of up to 5% of annual revenue. This would effectively let the FTC set prices. But what is an excessive price? Is $4 too much for a gallon of milk in Omaha? Is it a different price in Miami? FTC Chair Lina Khan and her army of bureaucrats would presumably decide.
There is also no evidence that supermarkets or other food retailers are gouging anyone. Food prices are higher than they were before the Biden Presidency, but that is because of inflation. Retail grocery prices have risen roughly in tandem with wholesale prices. Supermarkets also have narrow margins on sales roughly 2%, compared to 8% on average for other businesses.
Fixing prices is a recipe for shortages, as controls would discourage grocery suppliers. Voil, empty store shelves. Price controls have led to shortages everywhere they've been tried, from Moscow to Caracas.
The Biden-Harris inflation has made homes unaffordable for most young families, and her brainstorm for that is. . . More subsidies. Ms. Harris wants $25,000 in down-payment assistance for "first-time" home buyers. But this would merely drive home prices higher. States and localities mainly regulate housing, but Ms. Harris wants to federalize it with a bonanza of Washington programs to encourage "affordable" home construction.
Ms. Harris has endorsed the Biden plan to condition tax breaks for developers on rent caps, which will discourage new housing investment. No state has spent more on housing than her native California, yet it has the nation's highest home prices. As a result of sundry regulations, it costs more than $1 million to build an "affordable" housing unit in the Golden State.
We could go on about her other ideas, such as her embrace of Mr. Biden's $5 trillion in tax increases. But the ideas she claimed as her own Friday reveal a candidate whose economic judgment is deeply flawed.
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/kamala-h...nion_lead_pos1
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08-17-24 21:40 #15287Senior Member

Posts: 4637When I use the term Democratic douche, this is why I do so. Trump and Biden both engaged in massive borrowing and spending and when Trump does it, it somehow is bad and when Biden does it, it is great.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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There is nothing to applaud with Bidenomics. Inflation is down because of the Fed DESPITE Biden's spending. The problem with that is when you make borrowing costs higher to lower prices, you do so by cutting demand.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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The deficit is projected to be $2. 2 trillion. Of that, $1. 6 trillion is projected to be interest payments on the debt. When you are racking up huge credit card debt and you are paying 25% of your income to pay down those credit cards, that is nothing to be proud of.
The government / both political parties freaked out, made Covid into this huge deal instead of calmly and logically reflecting on it. All of a sudden a virus with a death rate at worst twice the rate of the common cold was a reason to go $10 trillion in debt. All the government was doing was printing up money and using that to compensate for the fall in demand. That is not brilliant. It is stupid, and the taxpayer still pays in the end. It is just in the form of inflation versus taxation.
And you are bragging about the rate of inflation being down now? Big fucking deal. You do not live here. Prices are so fucking high and conditions are so bad people are not spending money like they used to. You do not see the stores closing right and left. You do not see the desperation on the part of restaurants like McDonald's cutting prices.
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Food/mcdo...y?id=110676473
You also do not see restaurant chains going under.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyl...-11-bankruptcy
Buca di Beppo's bankruptcy filing marks the latest in the restaurant industry this year.
In recent months, Tijuana Flats, Red Lobster and Rubio's Coastal Grill have each entered Chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings.
And here you have the perfect headline to describe this mess:
https://www.salon.com/2024/05/28/maj...nsumer-demand/
Major restaurant chains are cutting menu prices due to high food costs, decrease in consumer demand.
And when you have decreased prices due to falling demand, that is not something to applaud. The word for that is not recession but depression.
Gee, thanks again, Joe and Kamala. Let's make sure we blame all this on those greedy food companies instead of government's own insane spending. Yeesh.
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08-17-24 21:33 #15286Senior Member

Posts: 2386A Parable for EihTooms
You come down with cancer. It's curable, but you have to undergo chemo. The chemo is rough. Your hair falls out, and you get sick every time you eat. You go from a strapping 180 pounds all the way down to 120 pounds. But good news! The chemo worked and you're cured! The cancer is gone! Not only that, a group of researchers, including your doctor, came up with a vaccine that will prevent people in the future from getting the cancer, or at least reduce the effects in those who do.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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A team consisting of your doctor, some nurses and a dietician design your diet and meals and supervise your eating with a view towards getting your weight back up. Soon you're eating high on the hog. T-bone steak, lobster, mango with sticky rice, you name it. You're back up to 150 pounds! Now it's 165 pounds! You're gaining weight more rapidly than anyone on your team dreamed!
The dietician sees the writing on the wall. If you don't slow down, you're going to get fat. She recommends that your daily calorie consumption be cut from 5,000 calories a day back to 3,000. But the doctor and nurses nix that idea, and in order to comply with hospital policy about taking the dietician seriously, agree to cut your diet to 4500 calories a day.
Another few months and you're back to fighting weight, 180 pounds, smack dab where you were before you got the cancer! Your doctor gets replaced, as does your dietician. Your slim and trim dietician is replaced by Chuck Schumer. Your old team would have advised you to go back to a normal diet. But not the new guys! Some of your doctors highly respected colleagues tell him you need to cut back. But he ignores them. 4500 Calories is not enough! Continue on Tooms, only with 6,000 calories a day!
Before you know it, you're at 220 pounds. And that wouldn't be bad if you'd added muscle. But instead you're flabby from all the saturated fat and rich desserts and now you have heart disease.
While you're very bright, you become dense when confronted with the reality of Progressive Democratic policies, so I shall explain explicitly.
In this parable, you are the economy.
The first doctor is Donald Trump.
The Cancer is the COVID epidemic. The doctor did not cause the cancer. That's just something you cooked up when you were in some kind of delirium because of malnourishment and cancer.
The vaccine that your doctor (Trump) played a part in developing, that will go on to save many others from your type of cancer, is the mRNA COVID vaccine.
Your weight is GDP. It contracts greatly, then bounces back rapidly. By the end of the first quarter of 2021, it's back to where it was when the cancer treatment started.
The nurses are House Democrats, led by Nancy Pelosi.
The food is stimulus spending.
The first dietician is Mitch McConnell and Senate Republicans. Trump and Pelosi and Democrats wanted to hand out $1900 to most men, women and children in December, 2020. McConnell and Senate Republicans made them back off to $1400.
The second president is Joe Biden, and the second dietician is Chuck Schumer.
Your doctor's highly respected colleagues, who were begging him not to increase your diet to 6,000 calories per day when you were back to your pre-cancer weight are respected Democrat economists Larry Summers and Jason Furman.
I hope you enjoyed my parable, and learned something from it.
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08-17-24 18:09 #15285Senior Member

Posts: 7457Oh-oh. There goes Arizona
The demonstrably Winger-leaning polling site, RealClearPolitics, has now shifted the Battleground State of Arizona from the Trump side of their No Toss-Up States Electoral College Map to the Harris side.
They have not quite yet shifted the other important Battleground State of Pennsylvania from Trump to Harris. But that might happen in a matter of days or hours because they do show it to be tied between Trump and Harris as of this writing. See screenshots below:
https://www.realclearpolling.com/ele...eground-states
Harris now leads Trump in the Consensus of both the Head-to-Head and 5-Way races on RCP while Trump is still hanging onto about as nominal a lead as you can have in the overall Battleground States, at +0. 1 point. At this writing, that nominal lead is due to him only hanging onto leads in Nevada, North Carolina and Georgia by 1 to 1. 3 percentage point.
Oh, and the 538 Site already has Harris ahead of Trump Nationally and in the important Battleground States of WI, MI and PA.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/
Of course, I only mention these interesting details in passing for those who are interested in polls.
Or used to be.
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08-17-24 11:02 #15284Senior Member

Posts: 1745Ministry of Truth -- How Trump's "Jedi mind trick", took over the GOP/Repubs...
Great find, BTW!
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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What struck me the most, was the revelation about the lying, why he's a serial habitual liar and how it all ties back to the Access Hollywood Tape scandal. Considering that his 34 felony convictions also centered around the events of the AH tape scandal, it's not hard to fathom, why so much of the understanding about who Trump is, can be garnered from this single event.
His Lying and Why He Lies Revealed:
In the infamous Access Hollywood interview with Billy Bush, where Trump later said, when the cameras were off:- Newsweek version: "Billy, look...you just tell them and they believe it. That's it! You just tell them and they believe. They just do!"
- Or TRMS version: "People will just believe you. You just tell them, and they believe you."
So weather by hook or by crook, or by "Jedi mind trick", Trumps delusional and wrapped universal belief is, that when he tell people something, they just believe, just because he's saying it. Needless to say the gullible GOP/Repubs, bought into the "Jedi mind trick", hook, line and sinker, with them being associated a leader known as a serial lair and them, branded and labeled as a party of liars!
The latest of course, is the drama queen's fixation on "crowd size" and his reactionary lies, "TELLING" the public (he believes to be idiots), that his rallies were bigger, when the entire country knows he lying, save of course the Repubs/QAnon/MAGA brainwashed cult.
There is of course, a method to his madness of lies, but that's another story, for another post, I'll have to circle-back to.
But this tired old schtick, he thinks he has going on, and the "Jedi Mind Trick" not what it used to be, since Americans have had 8-years (4-in & 4 out of office) to suss him out, it has become plainly transparent to see, that his time is coming to a close and Americans are ready to move on, to four (4) more years of joy and growth with Harris/Walz in White House.
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08-17-24 09:28 #15283Senior Member

Posts: 7457Thanks again, Joe and Kamala
Shh. Don't tell Larry Summers, the WSJ or any MAGA about this.
If they had gotten their way, we would still be suffering in the midst of another Global Repub Great Depression with everyone without a job and no money in their pockets thanks to Trump's Pandemic waiting patiently for global and domestic manufacturers and shippers to fire up their factories, trucks and ships to make and ship stuff for "customers" without a job and no money in their pockets while manufacturers and shippers are waiting patiently for money to somehow miraculously appear in non existent "customers" pockets miraculously generating demand for the yet to be manufactured and shipped products.
Othwise known as "Repub Economic Policy that has produced every major economic downturn of the past 100 years".
A U.S. construction boom is sending rents lower and creating perks for renters.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/14/here...ndroidappshare
Rents are still high because of how much prices climbed during the pandemic, said Chen Zhao, who leads the economics team at Redfin. But now, rent growth has flattened, which can be seen as good news for renters, she said.
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"When wages are rising rapidly, that helps to support housing demand, said Divounguy. As the labor market loosens, we expect the rental market to continue to loosen.
Wages are growing 4% to 5% year over year, said Zhao: Thats good. That means that rents are actually falling relative to wages. Your wages are increasing more than rents are.
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08-17-24 02:34 #15282Senior Member

Posts: 7457Speaking of Allan Lichtman
Allan Lichtman is the man referenced here whose 13 Keys to the White House system has accurately predicted 10 out of 10 presidential election winners since 1984, with that same 13 Keys system proving accurate if applied to elections going back to 1860.
Yes, those 10 out of 10 that he accurately predicted since 1984 includes his prediction that Al Gore would win in 2000. He proved in 2001 that the 2000 election was a stolen election here:
U.S. Commission on Civil Rights.
Voting Irregularities in Florida During the 2000 Presidential Election.
https://www.usccr.gov/files/pubs/vot...ort/exesum.htm
And just today he posted this 10 minute video recapping the egregious violations of tens of thousands of Florida's Gore voters' Rights by rejecting their clear and unambiguous intention to cast a vote for Al Gore:
https://youtu.be/D57mZejswkI?si=CmcFXcyTrX2NAnC9
My god. Thousands of African American voters' ballots were rejected in Jeb Bush's Florida for a punched ballot next to Al Gore's name and writing in his name, probably just to make sure their vote for Gore was counted despite a potential "hanging Chad" or incomplete punch-through.
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08-17-24 01:19 #15281Senior Member

Posts: 7457On Gov Spending, blame Trump for 2021-2023 Inflation
To whatever extent Government Spending contributed to Trump's Pandemic Inflation (turns out in this case not all that much), Trump's government spending in 2020, well before Biden passed his American Rescue Plan Act, dwarfs that of 2021 and ever since.
Biden's legislation would only account for a fraction of a fraction of the Inflation Trump's Pandemic, his tarrifs on imported goods and his pre 2021 government spending caused.
And if that smidgen more inflation contributed to by Biden's brilliant recovery policies and stewardship prevented us and the rest of the world from another Great Repub Depression and a very hard Repub Crash Landing post-Trump's Pandemic, I can only add, "Thanks again, Joe and Kamsla. ":
"Thanks to the insane tax-and-spending spree of President Joe Biden and Democrats in Washington, we are seeing six straight months of raging inflation."
MOSTLY FALSE.
https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ment-spending/
Theres no question that high levels of government spending can fuel inflation. But the spending that has occurred since Biden took office, primarily through the American Rescue Plan, accounts for just a part of new government spending over the past 18 months.
Other potential factors are also at play in raising prices: short-term supply interruptions, labor shortages, tariffs on imported goods, or simply the cyclical growth in consumer demand when the economy is recovering from a downturn.
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08-17-24 00:33 #15280Senior Member

Posts: 7457Sorry, but this is an emergency! Your boy says so every day.
Haven't you heard? Extreme emergency measures RIGHT NOW AND TODAY are necessary and there is really no other way to fix this GROWING PROBLEM.
Originally Posted by Tiny12
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And this comes directly from the presidential candidate you are hell bent to put back in the White House ASAP. After all, as you and the Murdoch WSJ Editorial Board will testify, Trump never demands unnecessary, extreme measures be taken about anything like keeping those Early Warning / Pandemic Prevention teams in those Chinese labs after September 2019.
No extreme measures, until now, that is. And that is why he promises to become a Dictator on day one and call all the shots on everything. No nutty extremist he. Much more sane and reasonable than Harris.
But Harris' solutions are really unavoidable. It would be irresponsible for Trump not to be behind her plan beyond 100% like the percentage of jobs his stable genius brain told him and then us illegal immigrants took of the jobs Biden-Harris created this year.
It would be irresponsible for Trump not to back Harris' plan beyond 100% TODAY because, as everybody at the WSJ and everywhere else knows, "Bacon has gone up 300%! Nobody can buy bacon anymore! Nobody can buy Cheerios anymore! Nobody can buy groceries! Nobody can buy anything or do anything"!.
Consequently, this really is the only thing a responsible potus can do:
Harris outlines 'opportunity economy' centered on cutting housing, family costs..
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/16/kama...ndroidappshare
Vice President Kamala Harris outlined her plan to create an opportunity economy by focusing on lowering the costs of food, housing, health care and childcare.
Her plan includes a federal ban on price gouging on groceries, a new $6,000 child tax credit for families with newborns and a $25,000 boost for first-time home buyers.
Harris framed her plan in stark contrast to the proposals put forward by her Republican rival, former President Donald Trump.
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08-17-24 00:12 #15279Senior Member

Posts: 2386I thought you were referring to me, the "Libertarian Republican" Tooms was replying to, as one of the Tweedle twins, and perhaps Elvis as the other. And awaiting a reply from us as to what to do about inflation. I was curious why you thought we were running the Republican presidential campaign. I now know that Tweedle Dumb is Trump, but still am not 100% sure who Tweedle Dee is. J.D. Vance? Lara Trump?
Originally Posted by Spidy
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Apologies for threatening to call you Butthead. If it helps, it was an empty threat that I never intended to implement. You are a respected, though misguided board member.
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08-16-24 22:08 #15278Senior Member

Posts: 1745I'll take Harris/Walz over tweedledum and tweedledee anyday of the week...
What on earth are you taking about? Are you suffering from an identity complex or something?
Originally Posted by Tiny 12
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Why are you assuming tweedledum and tweedledee is you and whoever else you've assumed it to be, since I clearly state that tweedledum and tweedledee are the Repubs at the head of the MAGA "no nothing" campaign running for office.
(...kkkk!) Perhaps you should read your own advice!
Originally Posted by Tiny 12
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Here let me remind you, of what I wrote:
So when did you (and whoever else your delusion extends to) become the candidate(s) running the Repub/MAGA "no nothing" campaign for the 2024 Presidential Election???
Originally Posted by Spidy
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I know you think very highly of yourself (as should we all), but c'mon dude!
Not so "dumb" after all, since the Biden/Harris stellar stewardship and great governing, has inflation at an all time low, since Biden signed the $1.9 Tillion IRA, producing the best economy in the G7 and industrial countries since the pandemic.
Originally Posted by Tiny 12
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- "Folks, inflation has fallen below 3%, its lowest level since March 2021. Prices are still too high, and we have more work to do to lower costs for hardworking Americans -- but were making real progress, with wages rising faster than prices for 17 months in a row," Biden posted on X. {....One day ago Aug 15th, 2024}
Thanks President Biden, Thanks Veep Harris!
Hey, as you've proclaimed and said, "...the world is not going to come to an end, if Harris is in office". She and Walz, my even surprise you and extend the exceptionally Biden/Harris growing economy, labor, business and stock market wins.
Originally Posted by Tiny 12
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It surely can't be any worse than Tweedledums' four years in office, since she'll be inheriting another great Dem economy and having been familiar with Biden's great economic team, again stewarding America going forward, is just icing on the cake.








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