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  1. #15286

    A Parable for EihTooms

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    To whatever extent Government Spending contributed to Trump's Pandemic Inflation (turns out in this case not all that much), Trump's government spending in 2020, well before Biden passed his American Rescue Plan Act, dwarfs that of 2021 and ever since.

    Biden's legislation would only account for a fraction of a fraction of the Inflation Trump's Pandemic, his tarrifs on imported goods and his pre 2021 government spending caused.

    And if that smidgen more inflation contributed to by Biden's brilliant recovery policies and stewardship prevented us and the rest of the world from another Great Repub Depression and a very hard Repub Crash Landing post-Trump's Pandemic, I can only add, "Thanks again, Joe and Kamsla. ":

    "Thanks to the insane tax-and-spending spree of President Joe Biden and Democrats in Washington, we are seeing six straight months of raging inflation."
    MOSTLY FALSE.


    https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ment-spending/
    You come down with cancer. It's curable, but you have to undergo chemo. The chemo is rough. Your hair falls out, and you get sick every time you eat. You go from a strapping 180 pounds all the way down to 120 pounds. But good news! The chemo worked and you're cured! The cancer is gone! Not only that, a group of researchers, including your doctor, came up with a vaccine that will prevent people in the future from getting the cancer, or at least reduce the effects in those who do.

    A team consisting of your doctor, some nurses and a dietician design your diet and meals and supervise your eating with a view towards getting your weight back up. Soon you're eating high on the hog. T-bone steak, lobster, mango with sticky rice, you name it. You're back up to 150 pounds! Now it's 165 pounds! You're gaining weight more rapidly than anyone on your team dreamed!

    The dietician sees the writing on the wall. If you don't slow down, you're going to get fat. She recommends that your daily calorie consumption be cut from 5,000 calories a day back to 3,000. But the doctor and nurses nix that idea, and in order to comply with hospital policy about taking the dietician seriously, agree to cut your diet to 4500 calories a day.

    Another few months and you're back to fighting weight, 180 pounds, smack dab where you were before you got the cancer! Your doctor gets replaced, as does your dietician. Your slim and trim dietician is replaced by Chuck Schumer. Your old team would have advised you to go back to a normal diet. But not the new guys! Some of your doctors highly respected colleagues tell him you need to cut back. But he ignores them. 4500 Calories is not enough! Continue on Tooms, only with 6,000 calories a day!

    Before you know it, you're at 220 pounds. And that wouldn't be bad if you'd added muscle. But instead you're flabby from all the saturated fat and rich desserts and now you have heart disease.

    While you're very bright, you become dense when confronted with the reality of Progressive Democratic policies, so I shall explain explicitly.

    In this parable, you are the economy.

    The first doctor is Donald Trump.

    The Cancer is the COVID epidemic. The doctor did not cause the cancer. That's just something you cooked up when you were in some kind of delirium because of malnourishment and cancer.

    The vaccine that your doctor (Trump) played a part in developing, that will go on to save many others from your type of cancer, is the mRNA COVID vaccine.

    Your weight is GDP. It contracts greatly, then bounces back rapidly. By the end of the first quarter of 2021, it's back to where it was when the cancer treatment started.

    The nurses are House Democrats, led by Nancy Pelosi.

    The food is stimulus spending.

    The first dietician is Mitch McConnell and Senate Republicans. Trump and Pelosi and Democrats wanted to hand out $1900 to most men, women and children in December, 2020. McConnell and Senate Republicans made them back off to $1400.

    The second president is Joe Biden, and the second dietician is Chuck Schumer.

    Your doctor's highly respected colleagues, who were begging him not to increase your diet to 6,000 calories per day when you were back to your pre-cancer weight are respected Democrat economists Larry Summers and Jason Furman.

    I hope you enjoyed my parable, and learned something from it.

  2. #15285

    Oh-oh. There goes Arizona

    The demonstrably Winger-leaning polling site, RealClearPolitics, has now shifted the Battleground State of Arizona from the Trump side of their No Toss-Up States Electoral College Map to the Harris side.

    They have not quite yet shifted the other important Battleground State of Pennsylvania from Trump to Harris. But that might happen in a matter of days or hours because they do show it to be tied between Trump and Harris as of this writing. See screenshots below:

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/ele...eground-states

    Harris now leads Trump in the Consensus of both the Head-to-Head and 5-Way races on RCP while Trump is still hanging onto about as nominal a lead as you can have in the overall Battleground States, at +0. 1 point. At this writing, that nominal lead is due to him only hanging onto leads in Nevada, North Carolina and Georgia by 1 to 1. 3 percentage point.

    Oh, and the 538 Site already has Harris ahead of Trump Nationally and in the important Battleground States of WI, MI and PA.

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

    Of course, I only mention these interesting details in passing for those who are interested in polls.

    Or used to be.
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  3. #15284

    Ministry of Truth -- How Trump's "Jedi mind trick", took over the GOP/Repubs...

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    The world's non Repub MAGAs already know all about this and don't really need to read or listen to this book to know everything in it.

    But it would no doubt come as a total shock for low information suc, er I mean, emotion-driven cult-followers, er I mean "conservatives" to realize what was done to them:

    Ministry of Truth.
    Democracy, Reality, and the Republicans' War on the Recent Past.


    https://www.msnbc.com/ministryoftruth

    Ministry of Truth: Democracy, Reality, and the Republicans War on the Recent Past.

    http://www.publishersweekly.com/9780063393677
    Great find, BTW!

    What struck me the most, was the revelation about the lying, why he's a serial habitual liar and how it all ties back to the Access Hollywood Tape scandal. Considering that his 34 felony convictions also centered around the events of the AH tape scandal, it's not hard to fathom, why so much of the understanding about who Trump is, can be garnered from this single event.

    His Lying and Why He Lies Revealed:

    In the infamous Access Hollywood interview with Billy Bush, where Trump later said, when the cameras were off:
    • Newsweek version: "Billy, look...you just tell them and they believe it. That's it! You just tell them and they believe. They just do!"
    • Or TRMS version: "People will just believe you. You just tell them, and they believe you."
    In other words, he sees most of people that he flogs his lies to, as idiots. Full well knowing, that what he's says is mostly lies. But because he has no respect for other people and believes most people are just idiots, and since most idiots don't think for themselves, is ample reason why he thinks that they're going to believe him.

    So weather by hook or by crook, or by "Jedi mind trick", Trumps delusional and wrapped universal belief is, that when he tell people something, they just believe, just because he's saying it. Needless to say the gullible GOP/Repubs, bought into the "Jedi mind trick", hook, line and sinker, with them being associated a leader known as a serial lair and them, branded and labeled as a party of liars!

    The latest of course, is the drama queen's fixation on "crowd size" and his reactionary lies, "TELLING" the public (he believes to be idiots), that his rallies were bigger, when the entire country knows he lying, save of course the Repubs/QAnon/MAGA brainwashed cult.

    There is of course, a method to his madness of lies, but that's another story, for another post, I'll have to circle-back to.

    But this tired old schtick, he thinks he has going on, and the "Jedi Mind Trick" not what it used to be, since Americans have had 8-years (4-in & 4 out of office) to suss him out, it has become plainly transparent to see, that his time is coming to a close and Americans are ready to move on, to four (4) more years of joy and growth with Harris/Walz in White House.

  4. #15283

    Thanks again, Joe and Kamala

    Shh. Don't tell Larry Summers, the WSJ or any MAGA about this.

    If they had gotten their way, we would still be suffering in the midst of another Global Repub Great Depression with everyone without a job and no money in their pockets thanks to Trump's Pandemic waiting patiently for global and domestic manufacturers and shippers to fire up their factories, trucks and ships to make and ship stuff for "customers" without a job and no money in their pockets while manufacturers and shippers are waiting patiently for money to somehow miraculously appear in non existent "customers" pockets miraculously generating demand for the yet to be manufactured and shipped products.

    Othwise known as "Repub Economic Policy that has produced every major economic downturn of the past 100 years".

    A U.S. construction boom is sending rents lower and creating perks for renters.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/14/here...ndroidappshare

    Rents are still high because of how much prices climbed during the pandemic, said Chen Zhao, who leads the economics team at Redfin. But now, rent growth has flattened, which can be seen as good news for renters, she said.
    .........
    "When wages are rising rapidly, that helps to support housing demand, said Divounguy. As the labor market loosens, we expect the rental market to continue to loosen.

    Wages are growing 4% to 5% year over year, said Zhao: Thats good. That means that rents are actually falling relative to wages. Your wages are increasing more than rents are.

  5. #15282

    Speaking of Allan Lichtman

    Allan Lichtman is the man referenced here whose 13 Keys to the White House system has accurately predicted 10 out of 10 presidential election winners since 1984, with that same 13 Keys system proving accurate if applied to elections going back to 1860.

    Yes, those 10 out of 10 that he accurately predicted since 1984 includes his prediction that Al Gore would win in 2000. He proved in 2001 that the 2000 election was a stolen election here:

    U.S. Commission on Civil Rights.
    Voting Irregularities in Florida During the 2000 Presidential Election.


    https://www.usccr.gov/files/pubs/vot...ort/exesum.htm

    And just today he posted this 10 minute video recapping the egregious violations of tens of thousands of Florida's Gore voters' Rights by rejecting their clear and unambiguous intention to cast a vote for Al Gore:

    https://youtu.be/D57mZejswkI?si=CmcFXcyTrX2NAnC9

    My god. Thousands of African American voters' ballots were rejected in Jeb Bush's Florida for a punched ballot next to Al Gore's name and writing in his name, probably just to make sure their vote for Gore was counted despite a potential "hanging Chad" or incomplete punch-through.

  6. #15281

    On Gov Spending, blame Trump for 2021-2023 Inflation

    To whatever extent Government Spending contributed to Trump's Pandemic Inflation (turns out in this case not all that much), Trump's government spending in 2020, well before Biden passed his American Rescue Plan Act, dwarfs that of 2021 and ever since.

    Biden's legislation would only account for a fraction of a fraction of the Inflation Trump's Pandemic, his tarrifs on imported goods and his pre 2021 government spending caused.

    And if that smidgen more inflation contributed to by Biden's brilliant recovery policies and stewardship prevented us and the rest of the world from another Great Repub Depression and a very hard Repub Crash Landing post-Trump's Pandemic, I can only add, "Thanks again, Joe and Kamsla. ":

    "Thanks to the insane tax-and-spending spree of President Joe Biden and Democrats in Washington, we are seeing six straight months of raging inflation."
    MOSTLY FALSE.


    https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...ment-spending/

    Theres no question that high levels of government spending can fuel inflation. But the spending that has occurred since Biden took office, primarily through the American Rescue Plan, accounts for just a part of new government spending over the past 18 months.

    Other potential factors are also at play in raising prices: short-term supply interruptions, labor shortages, tariffs on imported goods, or simply the cyclical growth in consumer demand when the economy is recovering from a downturn.
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  7. #15280

    Sorry, but this is an emergency! Your boy says so every day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    Why yes we do. Cut out the excessive fiscal stimulus when the economy is doing well. Keep interest rates high. Shrink the Fed's balance sheet.

    The best way of course is not to create conditions that lead to inflation. As the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board writes today,

    "The economy in January 2021 was fast recovering from the pandemic as vaccines rolled out and state lockdowns eased. GDP grew 34.8% in the third quarter of 2020 ,4.2% in the fourth, and 5.2% in the first quarter of 2021. By the end of that first quarter, real GDP had returned to its pre-pandemic high. All Mr. Biden had to do was let the recovery unfold."

    So what do the Dumb Ass Democrats do? Pass out $1.9 trillion in handouts, fiscal stimulus that kicked off inflation. And then they followed it up with other legislation that increased the debt and added to the stimulus. The government spent a lot of money that provided less benefit to Americans than if it were spent and saved by the private sector.

    Other points:

    Don't overregulate, like Biden did. A Mercatus study estimates a 10% increase in total regulations led to a 0. 687 percent increase in consumer prices.

    Don't lockdown economies for long stretches. If you do, you'll create shortages and logistical nightmares that contribute to inflation.

    If Dumb Ass Democrats are going to overdo the stimulus, the Fed should step in with more restrictive monetary policy instead of sitting on its ass and twiddling its thumbs.

    Don't increase tariffs, which increase prices. Instead lower them, which Biden didn't do.

    Don't impose sanctions on large oil exporters, especially when oil prices are high. Too bad our politicians didn't push peace in Ukraine instead of throwing gasoline on the fire. If the war could have been nipped in the bud, oil, coal, LNG and grain prices wouldn't have shot skywards.

    Put Libertarian Republicans, like Rand Paul, Jeff Flake and Justin Amash in positions of power, instead of Dumb Ass Spendthrifts like Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Donald Trump, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.

    It should be clear from the context above, but "Dumb Ass Democrats" refers to politicians. I don't believe you, EhiTooms, Xpartan et al are dumb asses. You are sadly misguided.

    And stop calling us Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb or I'm going to call you and Tooms Beavis and Butthead. And as you apparently have decided to get into the same corner with Hugo Chavez, Nicolas Maduro, Cristina Kirchner, Kamala Harris, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter and Stalin on price controls, you're going to be Butthead. Too bad some people (e.g. Kamala Harris) don't learn from history.
    Haven't you heard? Extreme emergency measures RIGHT NOW AND TODAY are necessary and there is really no other way to fix this GROWING PROBLEM.

    And this comes directly from the presidential candidate you are hell bent to put back in the White House ASAP. After all, as you and the Murdoch WSJ Editorial Board will testify, Trump never demands unnecessary, extreme measures be taken about anything like keeping those Early Warning / Pandemic Prevention teams in those Chinese labs after September 2019.

    No extreme measures, until now, that is. And that is why he promises to become a Dictator on day one and call all the shots on everything. No nutty extremist he. Much more sane and reasonable than Harris.

    But Harris' solutions are really unavoidable. It would be irresponsible for Trump not to be behind her plan beyond 100% like the percentage of jobs his stable genius brain told him and then us illegal immigrants took of the jobs Biden-Harris created this year.

    It would be irresponsible for Trump not to back Harris' plan beyond 100% TODAY because, as everybody at the WSJ and everywhere else knows, "Bacon has gone up 300%! Nobody can buy bacon anymore! Nobody can buy Cheerios anymore! Nobody can buy groceries! Nobody can buy anything or do anything"!.

    Consequently, this really is the only thing a responsible potus can do:

    Harris outlines 'opportunity economy' centered on cutting housing, family costs..

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/16/kama...ndroidappshare

    Vice President Kamala Harris outlined her plan to create an opportunity economy by focusing on lowering the costs of food, housing, health care and childcare.

    Her plan includes a federal ban on price gouging on groceries, a new $6,000 child tax credit for families with newborns and a $25,000 boost for first-time home buyers.

    Harris framed her plan in stark contrast to the proposals put forward by her Republican rival, former President Donald Trump.

  8. #15279
    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    It surely can't be any worse than Tweedledums' four years in office, since she'll be inheriting another great Dem economy and having been familiar with Biden's great economic team, again stewarding America going forward, is just icing on the cake.
    I thought you were referring to me, the "Libertarian Republican" Tooms was replying to, as one of the Tweedle twins, and perhaps Elvis as the other. And awaiting a reply from us as to what to do about inflation. I was curious why you thought we were running the Republican presidential campaign. I now know that Tweedle Dumb is Trump, but still am not 100% sure who Tweedle Dee is. J.D. Vance? Lara Trump?

    Apologies for threatening to call you Butthead. If it helps, it was an empty threat that I never intended to implement. You are a respected, though misguided board member.

  9. #15278

    I'll take Harris/Walz over tweedledum and tweedledee anyday of the week...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny 12  [View Original Post]
    And stop calling us Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb or I'm going to call you and Tooms Beavis and Butthead. And as you apparently have decided to get into the same corner with Hugo Chavez, Nicolas Maduro, Cristina Kirchner, Kamala Harris, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter and Stalin on price controls, you're going to be Butthead. Too bad some people (e.g. Kamala Harris) don't learn from history.
    What on earth are you taking about? Are you suffering from an identity complex or something?

    Why are you assuming tweedledum and tweedledee is you and whoever else you've assumed it to be, since I clearly state that tweedledum and tweedledee are the Repubs at the head of the MAGA "no nothing" campaign running for office.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny 12  [View Original Post]
    It should be clear from the context above, but "Dumb Ass Democrats" refers to politicians. I don't believe you, EhiTooms, Xpartan et al are dumb asses. You are sadly misguided.
    (...kkkk!) Perhaps you should read your own advice!

    Here let me remind you, of what I wrote:
    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    I am also pretty sure, judging from the "negative" MAGA campaign being ran by tweedledum and tweedledee, they are simply wanting until the Dems announce what issues and policies they'll be supporting, soon to follow with the "no nothing" MAGA campaign, suddenly having "policies/issues", which of course, mirrors everything "against" what the Dems stand for or support.
    So when did you (and whoever else your delusion extends to) become the candidate(s) running the Repub/MAGA "no nothing" campaign for the 2024 Presidential Election???

    I know you think very highly of yourself (as should we all), but c'mon dude!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny 12  [View Original Post]
    Why yes we do. Cut out the excessive fiscal stimulus when the economy is doing well. Keep interest rates high. Shrink the Fed's balance sheet.

    The best way of course is not to create conditions that lead to inflation. As the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board writes today,

    "The economy in January 2021 was fast recovering from the pandemic as vaccines rolled out and state lockdowns eased. GDP grew 34.8% in the third quarter of 2020 ,4.2% in the fourth, and 5.2% in the first quarter of 2021. By the end of that first quarter, real GDP had returned to its pre-pandemic high. All Mr. Biden had to do was let the recovery unfold."

    So what do the Dumb Ass Democrats do? Pass out $1.9 trillion in handouts, fiscal stimulus that kicked off inflation. And then they followed it up with other legislation that increased the debt and added to the stimulus. The government spent a lot of money that provided less benefit to Americans than if it were spent and saved by the private sector.
    Not so "dumb" after all, since the Biden/Harris stellar stewardship and great governing, has inflation at an all time low, since Biden signed the $1.9 Tillion IRA, producing the best economy in the G7 and industrial countries since the pandemic.
    • "Folks, inflation has fallen below 3%, its lowest level since March 2021. Prices are still too high, and we have more work to do to lower costs for hardworking Americans -- but were making real progress, with wages rising faster than prices for 17 months in a row," Biden posted on X. {....One day ago Aug 15th, 2024}
    So check your math, but America has one of the best, if not the best economy in the world. So thanks much, for the "Monday morning quarterbacking", but I think Biden and Harris, has for the most part, got this one in the bag.

    Thanks President Biden, Thanks Veep Harris!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny 12  [View Original Post]
    Other points:

    Don't overregulate, like Biden did. A Mercatus study estimates a 10% increase in total regulations led to a 0. 687 percent increase in consumer prices.

    Don't lockdown economies for long stretches. If you do, you'll create shortages and logistical nightmares that contribute to inflation.

    If Dumb Ass Democrats are going to overdo the stimulus, the Fed should step in with more restrictive monetary policy instead of sitting on its ass and twiddling its thumbs.

    Don't increase tariffs, which increase prices. Instead lower them, which Biden didn't do.

    Don't impose sanctions on large oil exporters, especially when oil prices are high. Too bad our politicians didn't push peace in Ukraine instead of throwing gasoline on the fire. If the war could have been nipped in the bud, oil, coal, LNG and grain prices wouldn't have shot skywards.
    Hey, as you've proclaimed and said, "...the world is not going to come to an end, if Harris is in office". She and Walz, my even surprise you and extend the exceptionally Biden/Harris growing economy, labor, business and stock market wins.

    It surely can't be any worse than Tweedledums' four years in office, since she'll be inheriting another great Dem economy and having been familiar with Biden's great economic team, again stewarding America going forward, is just icing on the cake.

  10. #15277
    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Does MAGA's own tweedledum and tweedledee have solutions to high prices?

    Is that a fancy way of saying, "Republican Libertarian"?

    Wait for it...I'm pretty sure the dreaded, "You're a partisan Democrat" is coming! (...kkkk!)



    I am also pretty sure, judging from the "negative" MAGA campaign being ran by tweedledum and tweedledee, they are simply wanting until the Dems announce what issues and policies they'll be supporting, soon to follow with the "no nothing" MAGA campaign, suddenly having "policies/issues", which of course, mirrors everything "against" what the Dems stand for or support.

    Yeah, good luck with a credible answer from, tweedledum and tweedledee, other than "drill baby drill".
    Why yes we do. Cut out the excessive fiscal stimulus when the economy is doing well. Keep interest rates high. Shrink the Fed's balance sheet.

    The best way of course is not to create conditions that lead to inflation. As the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board writes today,

    "The economy in January 2021 was fast recovering from the pandemic as vaccines rolled out and state lockdowns eased. GDP grew 34.8% in the third quarter of 2020 ,4.2% in the fourth, and 5.2% in the first quarter of 2021. By the end of that first quarter, real GDP had returned to its pre-pandemic high. All Mr. Biden had to do was let the recovery unfold."

    So what do the Dumb Ass Democrats do? Pass out $1.9 trillion in handouts, fiscal stimulus that kicked off inflation. And then they followed it up with other legislation that increased the debt and added to the stimulus. The government spent a lot of money that provided less benefit to Americans than if it were spent and saved by the private sector.

    Other points:

    Don't overregulate, like Biden did. A Mercatus study estimates a 10% increase in total regulations led to a 0. 687 percent increase in consumer prices.

    Don't lockdown economies for long stretches. If you do, you'll create shortages and logistical nightmares that contribute to inflation.

    If Dumb Ass Democrats are going to overdo the stimulus, the Fed should step in with more restrictive monetary policy instead of sitting on its ass and twiddling its thumbs.

    Don't increase tariffs, which increase prices. Instead lower them, which Biden didn't do.

    Don't impose sanctions on large oil exporters, especially when oil prices are high. Too bad our politicians didn't push peace in Ukraine instead of throwing gasoline on the fire. If the war could have been nipped in the bud, oil, coal, LNG and grain prices wouldn't have shot skywards.

    Put Libertarian Republicans, like Rand Paul, Jeff Flake and Justin Amash in positions of power, instead of Dumb Ass Spendthrifts like Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Donald Trump, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.

    It should be clear from the context above, but "Dumb Ass Democrats" refers to politicians. I don't believe you, EhiTooms, Xpartan et al are dumb asses. You are sadly misguided.

    And stop calling us Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb or I'm going to call you and Tooms Beavis and Butthead. And as you apparently have decided to get into the same corner with Hugo Chavez, Nicolas Maduro, Cristina Kirchner, Kamala Harris, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter and Stalin on price controls, you're going to be Butthead. Too bad some people (e.g. Kamala Harris) don't learn from history.

  11. #15276
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    You mean you will in at least some small way help Trump win the election by voting for Chase Oliver, right?

    Other than to increase name recognotion, network for another job and so on, the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, etc challenger to the Incumbent Party candidate gets in the race for one reason; to take votes away ftom the Incumbent Party candidate and help somebody else (or himself) win.

    Even Chase Oliver knows very well a vote for him helps the next most blatantly obvious possible "winner" win.

    And it ain't him.

    It is Donald Trump.

    But you already know that very, very well too.
    It's the other way around. If you put a gun to my head and tell me I have to vote for Trump or Harris, I'll vote for Trump. Six months ago, faced with a similar demand for Trump vs. Biden, I would have said, "Pull the trigger. " But Harris' judgement is worse than Biden's. And furthermore the worst fears of Trump's critics would never be realized. American institutions and old age would prevent him from stealing an election. He's probably less likely to get us into a war than Kamala.

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]

    A Serious Book Recommendation for Elvis and Tiny

    The world's non Repub MAGAs already know all about this and don't really need to read or listen to this book to know everything in it.

    But it would no doubt come as a total shock for low information suc, er I mean, emotion-driven cult-followers, er I mean "conservatives" to realize what was done to them:

    Ministry of Truth.
    Democracy, Reality, and the Republicans' War on the Recent Past.


    https://www.msnbc.com/ministryoftruth

    Ministry of Truth: Democracy, Reality, and the Republicans War on the Recent Past.

    http://www.publishersweekly.com/9780063393677
    ROTFLMAO! Hilarious, Rachel Maddow's editor wrote a book called Ministry of Truth. With reference to his and Rachel's body of work, he should have called it "Ministry of Propaganda."

    Anybody with half a brain knows that if Trump's mouth is open, he's often lying. Elvis, who has a big brain, knows this, although he sees enough good in Trump, and bad in Harris, to support him.

    Rachel Maddow is just as big a liar as Trump. Her delivery however is much smoother. I may have seen more of her on MSNBC than you have. She can weave a convincing story, complete with her glib, smiling delivery. Undoubtedly if you favor Democratic Politicians, you have a warm, superior, sanctimonious kind of feeling after watching her show. Often she's convincing. But after Googling some of her more credible sounding stories, I can say she's a master of misrepresentation.

    Too bad she's just on once a week now. That was a major fuckup on the part of MSNBC. I'd always tune in to her show over Fox or CNN when she was on.

  12. #15275

    Does MAGA's own tweedledum and tweedledee have solutions to high prices?

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    As a pro Repub, pro Trump, pretend "bothsider / neithersider",
    Is that a fancy way of saying, "Republican Libertarian"?

    Wait for it...I'm pretty sure the dreaded, "You're a partisan Democrat" is coming! (...kkkk!)

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    ... what has your preferred 2025 potus, Donald Trump, proposed as his plan for what his MAGAs are screaming for; lower costs for rent, food and gas?

    We know the usual Repub plan to accomplish those results; drive the USA Economy into a Great Depression / Great Recession and Wipe Out a few million jobs. Same solution for Trump this time?
    I am also pretty sure, judging from the "negative" MAGA campaign being ran by tweedledum and tweedledee, they are simply wanting until the Dems announce what issues and policies they'll be supporting, soon to follow with the "no nothing" MAGA campaign, suddenly having "policies/issues", which of course, mirrors everything "against" what the Dems stand for or support.

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    And I have heard him say "drill baby drill" will drive down the cost of rent, etc. How so? And how much more drilling and oil production should Biden have done beyond the record high amounts, achieving true oil-related energy independence for the first time during his presidency, to lower somebody's rent?

    And, please, only cite Trump's perfectly sane solutions for lowering the cost of somebody's rent, food and gas.
    Yeah, good luck with a credible answer from, tweedledum and tweedledee, other than "drill baby drill".

  13. #15274

    Not really

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    Yes, that's what I am! A Pretend Bothsider! A Pretend Neither Sider! MAGA to the core! What a relief to finally know! This must be what a pretend gay transvestite brought up by a same sex couple in San Francisco feels like when he finally realizes he's straight. And can finally go bang some women instead of dressing up in women's clothes and acting all effeminate! I cant wait for my first Trump Rally! Maybe there will be another riot in the Capitol and I can go! Thank you Tooms for making me self aware!

    Trump's proposed additional tariffs will be bad for inflation, and bad but less so for employment and GDP growth. Having borrowed lots of money in his career, and having repaid only some of it, he has no fear of running up the national debt. Or of politicizing the Fed and manipulating interest rates. I think that's a negative but who knows. Maybe he'll figure out a way to default on the national debt and we'll be debt free!

    But yes, Kamala is worse. She doesn't know jack about the world outside of government. If she's able to do so, she'll jack up taxes and jack up government spending. And impose price controls! If she's like Biden, she'll be inclined to run the national debt up even more than Trump would, and will continue the Trump / Biden tariff regime. She'll try to regulate business into the ground. She's probably more likely to get us into a war. The woman's an existential threat to domestic oil and gas. She wanted to ban fracking! The price controls is the icing on the cake. And the ***** took away my backpage and wants to put me in jail for banging hookers. Contrast that with Trump who got those hookers to piss on Obama's bed in Moscow. Donald Trump is the Monger's Best Friend!

    My vote will go to Chase Oliver.
    You mean you will in at least some small way help Trump win the election by voting for Chase Oliver, right?

    Other than to increase name recognotion, network for another job and so on, the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, etc challenger to the Incumbent Party candidate gets in the race for one reason; to take votes away ftom the Incumbent Party candidate and help somebody else (or himself) win.

    Even Chase Oliver knows very well a vote for him helps the next most blatantly obvious possible "winner" win.

    And it ain't him.

    It is Donald Trump.

    But you already know that very, very well too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    As a pro Repub, pro Trump, pretend "bothsider / neithersider", what has your preferred 2025 potus, Donald Trump, proposed as his plan for what his MAGAs are screaming for; lower costs for rent, food and gas?

    We know the usual Repub plan to accomplish those results; drive the USA Economy into a Great Depression / Great Recession and Wipe Out a few million jobs. Same solution for Trump this time?

    And I have heard him say "drill baby drill" will drive down the cost of rent, etc. How so? And how much more drilling and oil production should Biden have done beyond the record high amounts, achieving true oil-related energy independence for the first time during his presidency, to lower somebody's rent?

    And, please, only cite Trump's perfectly sane solutions for lowering the cost of somebody's rent, food and gas.
    Yes, that's what I am! A Pretend Bothsider! A Pretend Neither Sider! MAGA to the core! What a relief to finally know! This must be what a pretend gay transvestite brought up by a same sex couple in San Francisco feels like when he finally realizes he's straight. And can finally go bang some women instead of dressing up in women's clothes and acting all effeminate! I can’t wait for my first Trump Rally! Maybe there will be another riot in the Capitol and I can go! Thank you Tooms for making me self aware!

    Trump's proposed additional tariffs will be bad for inflation, and bad but less so for employment and GDP growth. Having borrowed lots of money in his career, and having repaid only some of it, he has no fear of running up the national debt. Or of politicizing the Fed and manipulating interest rates. I think that's a negative but who knows. Maybe he'll figure out a way to default on the national debt and we'll be debt free!

    But yes, Kamala is worse. She doesn't know jack about the world outside of government. If she's able to do so, she'll jack up taxes and jack up government spending. And impose price controls! If she's like Biden, she'll be inclined to run the national debt up even more than Trump would, and will continue the Trump / Biden tariff regime. She'll try to regulate business into the ground. She's probably more likely to get us into a war. The woman's an existential threat to domestic oil and gas. She wanted to ban fracking! The price controls is the icing on the cake. And the ***** took away my backpage and wants to put me in jail for banging hookers. Contrast that with Trump who got those hookers to piss on Obama's bed in Moscow. Donald Trump is the Monger's Best Friend!

    My vote will go to Chase Oliver.

  15. #15272

    A good start

    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    I have three that I think with current state of population, technology advancement, and blindspot that currently not addressed in the constitution.

    Proposal A: Change the electoral college to popular vote system, 50%+1.

    Reasonings: The electoral college was set up so that large cities with information flowing slowly to the rural areas would not dominate rural citizens every election. Ideally not having only a few states to determine the outcome. In the 20th century, it was argued that the middle of the country would be disadvantage because election campaigns would only need to campaign in the outer perimeters of the country. Problem with this argument is that now we ACTUALLY have a few states deciding the outcome and with less representation of the populace. I believe we are in a good enough technological advancement that there are no real advantages of high population centers determining outcomes as it once did. News / Information is available within seconds as opposed to the past of newspapers lagging at least a day.

    Proposal be: NO family members can serve in presidential admininstration, 1st cousins included.

    Proposal see: No Elected members of congress / senate; President / Vice President; Supreme Court Justices can receive gifts from ANY person or business. All side hussle earnings will be donated to the treasury with neutral tax ramafication. One exception to this rule is proceeds from book sales will go to the author. All salary of elected officials are tax exempted. All incomes derived from investments shall be managed in a blind trust and tax exempt until leave of office.

    Why are you running for a position in the Federal Government if you're not there to protect and improve the lives of its citizens? I think with these changes, you'll have more honorable people in government.
    I would go with:

    - Abolish the Electoral College, whoever gets the most votes wins (some may not reach 50% + 1).

    - No Gerrymanding of House districts by partisan Party officials.

    - Number of Senate Seats determined by state population of human beings, not the number of rattlesnakes, tumble weeds and outhouses.

    - No term limits on any elected office.

    - Term limits on appointed positions; the Supreme Court Justices.

    - Major reform and restrictions on Big Money, Corporate campaign donations.

    But we know most of these things will never happen in our lifetimes or the lifetimes of people born yesterday:

    Constitutional Amendment Process.

    https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution

    The Constitution provides that an amendment may be proposed either by the Congress with a two-thirds majority vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate or by a constitutional convention called for by two-thirds of the State legislatures.
    We would need a Dem in the WH and Dems to control at least two thirds of the House and Senate. Mainstream Media will never allow that to happen again after all the Great Things were accomplished for America when we had a Dem in the WH and Dem ratios like that in Congress before or very close to it.

    And none of those red states with more rattlesnakes, tumble weeds and outhouses than human beings is going to agree to that critically important popular vote, Senate Seat and gerrymandering stuff.

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