Bangkok Reports

[Stykler]

and bitstyle on soi 22

I went to that place last week and it was nothing less than a sewer. Unfortunately I was the victim of a bait and switch and I was too slow to work out what was happening, and the lady I had was so off her face on something she was incoherent. At one stage she couldn't even hold her own weight when kneeling and fell over. During the "massage" she actually put her mobile phone on my back to use it whilst I was being massaged, thinking I wouldn't notice. Avoid Bitstyle like the plague is my best advice, and I probably have the same advice for all of Soi 22.

[Giovanni Volo]

If it's still like it was pre-covid you won't get a dirty look from Thai customers. These guys are there for their own entertainment. Most probably if you're entertaining one of the girls one of these guys is eying, what he could do is call her over and spend more money on her than you're doing.

But expect to tip everyone in that kind of place, girl, waiters, waitress, managers, even the door man.

Look of the girls was below the quality that one could find in a touristic located gogo bar too, so not sure why everyone looks interrested in that place suddenly.

I was and I agree with you.

Soon I will write a full report of Tded 99.

[Werqweq]

What is even more difficult to understand is why an individual would want to go over and over again in such a place and give these assh*les his money, after being treated like a dog or a subhuman more than once by these same people. Even promoting the place on multiple occasions on a dedicated site.

Unless that's precisely what this individual is looking for, giving his money to some of the biggest Thai scums and being treated like shit in return.

For reference, here is your first post about that place, from a few years ago:

Easy: because that, and bitstyle on soi 22 (though not sure how things are there now), is unfortunately the only BJ-bar in this area where one can expect there to be some half-decent looking girls working.

Other places may or may not have that.

[Paolo99]

I coincidentally passed by 7-heaven some hours ago on my way back, and I don't know wtf management does not fire whoever was sitting in the reception this evening. I didn't recognize her face, but once she started talking, I remembered this is the same cun.t who has caused me to simply walk out more than once during the last five years due to her rude and "I don't give a fuck" attitude to whatever question you might ask.

I'm not expecting to have a conversation with the matire d' of a fine restaurant, but some minimal politeness and respect for the customer? Upon here second "I don't give a fuck" answer to my question I simply turned around and silently walked out. Stopped at a regular massage place further along the way back to my airbnb and requested the same 30 year old woman who some weeks back gave me a good massage and a competent BJ, and paid her the money I planned to pay 7-heaven.

Why they don't fire this cow I don't understand. The others who man the reception are hardly shining beacons of service minded personel, but it's at least possible to ask a question or two without feeling you are talking to a person who does not care one iota about whether you buy whatever the shop is selling or not, and seems to think you are something slightly below the common garden slug on the totem pole.

What is even more difficult to understand is why an individual would want to go over and over again in such a place and give these assh*les his money, after being treated like a dog or a subhuman more than once by these same people. Even promoting the place on multiple occasions on a dedicated site.

Unless that's precisely what this individual is looking for, giving his money to some of the biggest Thai scums and being treated like shit in return.

For reference, here is your first post about that place, from a few years ago:

Visited this place on Monday the previous week and I'll say it was the
worst experience ever. Never have I meet such a rude and insulting
reception staff.

The reception woman, a plump woman with dyed red hair who I will
for brevity refer to as TFRB (the fat red-haired beast) from now on,
insulted both my girlfriend, who just came in to pay for my session,
and myself in one of the worst ways you can insult someone in Thailand,
by referring to me when she thought I could not hear/understand as an "it"
("man" in Thai).

Upon entering the place with my girlfriend, the first words coming from
TFRB, shouting across the room, were "no massage here!". Since my gf
and I have been to a few similar places already, we expected some mild
surprise and possible confusion from the reception staff upon seeing my
gf and me entering together, but we have never had a rude welcome before.

My girlfriend and I were taken by surprise by the anger in the TFRB's
voice, but my gf answered in English that I was there for a blowjob.
TFRB then shouted at my girlfriend "ok, but you get out!". My girlfriend
explained politely that she was there to pay for her boyfriend (me).
TFRB then said "ok, you pay, then get out".

I said we wanted to see the girls first.

TFRB answered "no, cannot see. Now she (pointing at my gf) must get
out!". I said again I wanted to see the staff first. TFRB said we have
to pay first. Then if I don't like, she will give me the money back.
For reference, at both Wood bar and BIT style, you see the girls first,
then if you want to choose one, you pay. If not, you leave.

My gf then paid and TFRB took out an ipad where I she said I could choose
amongst the girls. "Only three girls now". I said I wanted to see
the girls for real, not just photos. This TFRB refused.
Said "cannot. Choose from photo". I said if I cannot see, I would like
to get the money back now, as I was expecting the photos to be
photo-shopped into something not recognizable. TFRB gave the money back,
and we turned around to walk out. I hoped she would change her mind when
she saw me walking and let me see the staff in real life rather than
lose a customer, but she did not. Instead I changed my mind and said,
ok, let me see photos then.

My gf had as this point already walked outside, more than a little annoyed
by the obnoxious behaviour of TFRB. As a reference, my gf has treated
me to similar sessions multiple times at both Wood bar and BIT style,
and has always been welcomed with polite, albeit surprised, behaviour
from the women manning the reception there.

I asked TFRB to show me the photos then, but she responded I must pay
first. I asked her how my gf could pay when you told her to get out
already? She said my gf can come inside and pay, then get out again.
I went outside to ask my gf to come in again. As we walked back in,
we could hear TFRB talking bad about me in Thai to staff hiding behind
the counter.

After my gf had paid again, TFRB finally handed over the ipad so I could
chose amongst three women, while telling my gf again "you get out now".
All three girls, at least as far as photos were concerned, looked decent
enough, and so I choose a girl called Nui.

TFRB then went behind the counter and said one of the rudest things you
can say about anyone in Thai: "man luak Nui", which means "it chose you.
You have to work." Not "he" chose you, but "it". In Thai language,
as in English, it is extremely rude to refer to a human being as "it"
of course, and ill-tempered Thai men have shot others dead for saying
something like that to them.

For reference, my gf later asked me later what girl I choose and I showed
her Nui (https://www.7-heavenbkk.com/nui) from the website of 7-heaven
which anyone can access from anywhere. The same, and more, photos are
available on the website for anyone to see. Btw, when Nui appeared,
she did not look much like the photo at all and I would have preferred to
chose another girl, so as feared, the reason they do not let you see the
lineup in real life is because the lineup in real life looks much less
pretty than their photo-shopped pictures. They also look a lot less slim.

Not sure what the purpose of not letting my gf see the photos on the ipad
with me when she can see the same, and more photos, on her own phone by
going to the public website, but I guess there's some logic there that
escapes me at the moment.

Anyway, the rudeness of the fat red beast aside, I was still hoping for a
decent session with Nui, as I hoped the plump woman manning the reception
was just an angry ***** whose poor demeanor would not necessarily reflect
on the staff (I was wrong).

Nui started of friendly enough, so I tried to quiz her a bit about the
woman in the reception. Obviously TFRB could not be the fabled Som from
"Som's haven" who's service-minded staff there have been many posts about,
and I can't imagine that anyone with an iota of customer care in mind would let
such a beast as the red-haired woman mind the reception, so I wondered
if indeed the reason the red-haired beast was manning the reception was
because she was the owner.

I expressed my question in a more polite way to "Nui" and wondered why
TFRB was so angry, but Nui brushed it aside. I then tried to ask if
TFRB was the owner, to which Nui responded "no", but I'm not sure if
she was being truthful or not.

Anyway, not expecting to get any useful answer from Nui, we proceeded to
the BJ.

Nui first washed junior in the sink they have in the room, and then
started servicing me decently well with a BBBJ for about 15 minutes,
sucking and slurping away as you have it.

After about 15 minutes, I stood up from the table-like thing they have you
sit/lay down on and let Nui continue servicing me while I was standing up.

After a few minutes standing, Nui asked me if I was finished? I was,
for the second time at this establishment, taken a bit by surprise from
the question. I looked at Nui a bit dumbfounded and asked her why
she would think that? But she just asked again "you finished now?".

My GF also had a chuckle when I told her this later, but I unfortunately
had to disappoint Nui by telling her I had not finished yet, so she
somewhat reluctantly continued with her job. After a few minutes of
standing, I felt the need to relax my tired legs and lay down again,
and let Nui continue her services while I was laying down.

A few minutes later, Nui started saying something about if I had
"finished now? Limit 40 minutes. Finish now?"

I was feeling a bit of an annoyance from being interrupted by this stupid
question again. Does she think she will not know when I have finished?
Does she expect me to ejaculate a soft, barely noticeable, puff of oxygen
into her mouth when I come? I answered Nui politely that it's not 40
minutes yet.

There was some back and forth with Ms. Nui and me about this, and in
the end she excused herself to go "ask boss". I spent a few minutes
contemplating, life, the universe, and everything, while waiting for
Nui to come back.

When Nui came back she told me "ok, 10 minutes more." Well, I let
her service me for five minutes more and then finished in her mouth.
She cleaned me up and I exited the shop, never to return unless someone
can tell me the red-haired beast manning the reception is gone.

Will I repeat: No No No. Nobody should have to be insulted in this way
by some fat woman who seems to hate her customers, and from what I can
tell with my very limited experience of this place, the mood of this
beast affects the girls providing the service too.

Anyone know if she's the owner of this place? If not, and someone knows
the owner, feel free to let the owner know she has lost at least one
customer who is a regular at other BJ bars due to the foul best manning
the reception. Nobody in Thailand refers to other people as an "it"
("man" in Thai) unless the speaker is really at the bottom of the totem pole
as far as manners and social grace is concerned.

[Werqweq]

After a two hour Thai massage (HJ offered, but no BJ unfortunately), I coincidentally passed by 7-heaven some hours ago on my way back, and I don't know wtf management does not fire whoever was sitting in the reception this evening. I didn't recognize her face, but once she started talking, I remembered this is the same cun.t who has caused me to simply walk out more than once during the last five years due to her rude and "I don't give a fuck" attitude to whatever question you might ask.

I'm not expecting to have a conversation with the matire d' of a fine restaurant, but some minimal politeness and respect for the customer? Upon here second "I don't give a fuck" answer to my question I simply turned around and silently walked out. Stopped at a regular massage place further along the way back to my airbnb and requested the same 30 year old woman who some weeks back gave me a good massage and a competent BJ, and paid her the money I planned to pay 7-heaven.

Why they don't fire this cow I don't understand. The others who man the reception are hardly shining beacons of service minded personel, but it's at least possible to ask a question or two without feeling you are talking to a person who does not care one iota about whether you buy whatever the shop is selling or not, and seems to think you are something slightly below the common garden slug on the totem pole.

[Werqweq]

Excellent report. Informative and well written. Kudos for taking the time to post.

Thank you Bunky. I have enjoyed many posts from you during the years, so I'm happy to hear that from you.

[Werqweq]

It's def her but I agree heavily filtered. Massive skin whitening because she's a dark girl. I guess that's the Asian aesthetic but not mine at all. While she looks good in the photo I think she's much prettier in person.

I agree with you, and will add that while I went with Nut as she really looks, I'd probably not go with her if she looked like in the photo. Not sure what's wrong with that photo, but more than just whitening has been applied. Whoever created it should take some lessons from the fiwfans guys on how to make girl look more beautiful, rather than more ugly.

[Steve 9696]

If that is indeed her, someone has applied some very heavy whitening filter to her, plus possibly other things, in this photo. I saw her some hours ago and can't really recognize her from this photo.

It's def her but I agree heavily filtered. Massive skin whitening because she's a dark girl. I guess that's the Asian aesthetic but not mine at all. While she looks good in the photo I think she's much prettier in person.

[Werqweq]

Is this the Nut you are referring to?

If that is indeed her, someone has applied some very heavy whitening filter to her, plus possibly other things, in this photo. I saw her some hours ago and can't really recognize her from this photo.

[Nyezhov]

11 pm Nana Plaza only Dregs of Nana are left. Get your aZZ in at 930 pm.

That is the best time.

[Bunky]

In the early afternoon I ventured out to Sutthisan to try a (for me) new fiwfan girl. * * * Service was good, and she did not (like most other fiwfans girls) interrupt the romance by informing me of the extra surcharge for CIM beforehand. Some more joking / GFE from her side, and I left a happy camper. * * * Worked out a bit and then had a massage next to Marriott on Sukhumvit 22, where I was going to have dinner. * * * Then overate as usual at Marriot's Goji restaurant buffet (booked via eatigo for a discount), before booking a grab motorbike back to my airbnb.

Excellent report. Informative and well written. Kudos for taking the time to post.

[EverythingThai]

Thank for the honest answer, but sorry: you say I paid an inflated price for the fiwfans girl (1600 + 300 + 400), but then say your own modus operandi is to overpay, and you make it sound like you overpay greatly? Seems slightly contradictory.

I said that because I thought you were using Fiw Fans because it was cheaper. So, I didn't understand that concept if you ended up paying more anyways plus paying too much for a BJ when FS is not too much more depending on where you go.

Speaking Thai goes a long way and that's all I think that needs to be said.

[Werqweq]

I build a rapport with the ladies by speaking Thai. I call them in line or direct on the phone. I tell the booker I will give them a tip if they let me speak to the lady. Some ladies don't have an admin so then it makes things even easier. Many admins know me in Fiw Fans. Then I do the following:

I practice this is all the mongering I do in Asia.

Thank for the honest answer, but sorry: you say I paid an inflated price for the fiwfans girl (1600 + 300 + 400), but then say your own modus operandi is to overpay, and you make it sound like you overpay greatly? Seems slightly contradictory.

I guess you have some charm and other things you are able to convey over the phone (did you work in sales or something similar?), so you make talking beforehand work to your benefit. It's an interesting approach that I had not even thought of, but in any case the opposite is sadly the case for me: have I met a non-p4p girl online or outside, hard earned experience has taught me that the last thing *I* should do is call her before I've banged her. If anything, my babble on the phone will kill any desire they had to meet me / meet me again. Of course, I don't speak Thai well enough to converse on the phone anyway, so the point is moot here.

I BTW saw another fiwfan girl in the afternoon today. Inspired by your success I broached the topic of fucking her without condom. She first told me I could fuck her without condom for a tip of 5 thousand, though it was obvious she didn't believe I was going to pay that and she was laughing herself when she said it. I responded with 1000. She said for 2000 ok. Had she been considerably prettier (a "solid" 21-22 year old 6, I'd say she was) I might have considered it, even though it would have more than doubled the total price, but at that time it did not seem worth it, even though my dick was partly inside her already. Asked her again after she seemingly orgasmed while I was banging her with a condom, but still only for 2,000 extra. Do I understand you correctly in that you would have gladly paid that? No disrespect intended if so. We all have our money and spend it how we best see fit.

Something I've not tried much of is seeing if visiting the same fiwfans girl again a few times will improve service to the point of bareback. I think there are only two fiwfans girl I've met more than once. With the first one (one year ago), service was worse the second time. With the second one (some weeks ago) service was about the same, though she had developed a tiny bit of an "ok, this guy likes me, that's why he's back, so I don't need to make as big of an effort this time" attitude. Not much, but I could sense it.

There are however three-four other girls I've recently had good experience with, two of which are somewhat hot. One yesterday, another one a week ago, and one or two older than that. I prefer to see new girls, but might try and go back to some of these for a second or even third serving. At that time this Thailand trip will be ending for me though, so that will also be somewhat of a moot point. Will be mainly out of curiosity I guess.

[UglyAzzMan]

Yes, I have no doubt things would be immensely easier if I could really speak Thai, rather than just being able to fake it for 10 seconds. One fiwfans girl mentioned I could pay an extra 1000 while we were doing it, which I was ok with, but she said I could not CIP and I declined (I've had a vasectomy, so I don't need to worry about getting anyone pregnant anymore, though I of course understand anyone could say that and a girl does not have a reason to believe every random schmuck who says it). I've offered a tip to one or two others as we were doing it, but they both refused it. Maybe you can tell me how you do it? Always, or even most of the time, is impressive to me.

As to why fiwfans: the evening before I arrived at Nana plaza at what I thought would be a quite early time,11 pm, and went through the 4-5 bars recommended by someone here, without seeing anyone I thought was pretty. A bit later I did the same at Cowboy, with the same result.
Admittedly you are right in that I do feel some thrill in not knowing exactly who will open the door, but honestly I would much prefer it to be the girl in the photos than whatever thrill there is. Though, with more experience in reading the reviews I have gotten fewer bad surprises. This year they have all been decent looking (7 or up).

As for paying an inflated price for the fiwfans girl, I don't feel I did that, except the big dick charge which was a bit annoying, but fortunately I don't get that ofen (only once before, where the girl outright refused as I mentioned).

Neither for the massage/BJ. I don't think you will get a BJ for less than 1000 on the thong lo - nana stretch in a massage shop, at least not without having luck and trying hard, so not sure what you mean about that. That I could instead get up and go somewhere else and pay a similar price, or a bit more for FS? Yeah, I could, but it's nice to just lay down and have a massage for an hour or two, and finish with a BJ (or FS if she is good looking) there and then, rather than get up and go somewhere else.

1600 for 60 minutes with the fiwfans girl, + 300-400 for CIM, as is often listed. And if I add in the "big dick" surcharge from yesterdays girl (linly is her listed name, BTW), a total of 2300 for a 20 yo girl I'd rate as an 8, though normally it would be less than 2000, as I'm not exactly hung like John Holmes.

On the other hand, I simply do not see anyone looking anything close to that in nana or soi cowboy. Maybe they are there, somewhere, but there is a limit to the glasses of orange juice I can drink in each bar while looking for her. And even after spending an hour or two doing that, if I can find her, I'd have to pay 1000 + 3000 to take her out. I much prefer to arrange things so that I bts / mrt out somewhere and bang a fiwfans girl while on the way to / from something else in the daytime.

T-Ded 99 sounds interesting and possibly I'll check it out on a weekend.

11 pm Nana Plaza only Dregs of Nana are left. Get your aZZ in at 930 pm.

[EverythingThai]

Maybe you can tell me how you do it? Always, or even most of the time, is impressive to me.

I build a rapport with the ladies by speaking Thai. I call them in line or direct on the phone. I tell the booker I will give them a tip if they let me speak to the lady. Some ladies don't have an admin so then it makes things even easier. Many admins know me in Fiw Fans. Then I do the following:

Now for me, I will just get this out of the way now so we never need to think about it again. I am an over-payer. Yes, thats right. When I see a girl I like, I make an offer she cant refuse for the services I want, end of story. Other girls know this about me and often will even go with me without even discussing price or services. Why ? Because they know I will take care of them, but only if they give me what I want with no drama. It has worked for me for the last 25 years in Asia. This ensures me of a great night. This no nonsense style of mongering in Pattaya and Bangkok has served me well.

I practice this is all the mongering I do in Asia.