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08-29-24 03:14 #15382Senior Member

Posts: 7457When the facts are on my side it's a snap
I doubt it ever takes up more than 15 minutes of my day to research and post the facts that thoroughly debunk the steady stream of Repub MAGA Winger lies I generally read here.
Originally Posted by Woodman09
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Which has served nicely as a brief mental and physical break from the steady stream of cute Thai girl BJs and Fucking, great food, entertainment, friendships, Real Girlfriend Experience, exploring, traveling and quite comfortable life I have been living work-free in retirement for the past 12+ years thanks to my great good fortune to have worked and invested in a Blue state and in an era when I benefitted from Dem potus economic policy and stewardship that produced such great gains for my retirement fund and plans that they even managed to override the disastrous Repub Crashes and Economic Declines that invariably occurred during those same decades whenever the American electorate was careless and foolish enough to allow Repubs to slither in to do it.
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08-29-24 02:22 #15381Senior Member

Posts: 7457Nobody started any such campaign except Repubs.
The point is, nobody in the Dem Party started a "Defund the Police" campaign. There never was one. It was a fabrication of Repubs and their loyal election campaign partners in Mainstream Media.
Originally Posted by RamDavidson84
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However, when it came down to actually funding, increasing and improving law enforcement presence where it is needed, you can always count on the Repub Party to object and reject it.
The same as they did when Repub Leader Trump ordered his Repub slaves in Congress to reject the tough, very conservative bi-partisan border control bill that included funding for more and better equiped border patrol police:
As conservatives balk, U.S. Border Patrol union endorses Senate immigration deal.
The National Border Patrol Council, which endorsed Donald Trump for president in 2020, said the new bipartisan bill "will drop illegal border crossings nationwide.".
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...ent-rcna137354
Senate Republicans block bipartisan border security deal.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...security-deal/
By stark contrast, while no Dem leadership started a "Defund the Police" campaign, the same can not be said for Repubs. Does the USA national police force and the Department of Justice count? I say it does:It also would have provided $6.8 billion to U.S. Customs and Border Protection, $7.6 billion for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and $4 billion to U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. Altogether, it would have invested $20.2 billion in improving border security.
Trumps call to defund DOJ, FBI puts Senate, House GOP at odds.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/...e-gop-at-odds/
No Country for Law Men: The GOP Votes to Defund the FBI.
https://www.newsweek.com/no-country-...pinion-1882085
If by now you are puzzled by why on Earth any cop or anyone else concerned about controling our borders and reducing crime would ever support and vote for a Repub over a Dem, join the club.
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08-28-24 16:33 #15380Senior Member

Posts: 1273Yeah those Dangerous Skary Repubs-- Meenie Trumptees
So tumors-- are you going to Canada when DJT becomes the 2024 president? I'm curious as to what you do for a job--You are so prolific -- You have a lot of time for your political screeds. I am impressed-- I mean you could compile these and send them to CNN maybe you could get a job there?
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08-28-24 16:22 #15379Senior Member

Posts: 192https://usafacts.org/articles/are-fe...ing-in-the-us/
Originally Posted by RamDavidson84
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Please show me where on the chart that it tells you that it was better under Trump administration.
Going from 20K to 70K is 3.5x; going from 70K to 73K is 4.3%. Is it high, yes. Is it a problem for our society, yes. From 2016 to 2020, it was ignored. Then the problem becomes so big that everyone has to notice it. And then you blame the next person for how high it has gotten, absolving the previous admin. We don't have current data for 23 and 24, but willing to bet that it is not 3X from 2021.
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08-28-24 11:50 #15378Senior Member

Posts: 804I was wrong, Media is covering former Republicans speaking out against Trump, but its the same crew from 2020. It is a bit concerning, I will give you that.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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But seriously, there is no way in hell your going to convince me or anyone that is even 1% honest that Republicans started the defund the police campaign. That is total nonsense. Many of your posts are very good Tooms, even though I don't agree with them, but this is beneath you.
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08-28-24 10:18 #15377Senior Member

Posts: 7576Unprecedented
This situation is absolutely unprecedented due to the scope of it. It's not just a few one offs here and there. It's a lot! And I don't know which media outlets you follow, but this absolutely has been covered in the main stream media. And no name nothings? Just remember that at the end of the day all politics is local. Those "no name nothings" are going to be the ones who decide the winner in a close election. So, a candidate disrespects and dismisses them at their own peril.
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08-28-24 09:21 #15376Senior Member

Posts: 7457You're really on a roll here
Interesting. So few Dem departures it is easy to remember and cite each one by name.
The hits just keep on comin'!
Originally Posted by RamDavidson84
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What's next?
"Carter ruined the economy and Reagan fixed it"?
"Nobody predicted a Pandemic. It just happened out of the blue"?
"Trump inherited a skyrocketing unemployment rate and his genius policies brought it down"?
"Biden caused more inflation than anybody by flooding more emergency Covid recovery money into Americans' pockets in 2020 than anyone since. Really. Look it up"?
"Violent crime rates are at record highs today under Biden"?
"We are in a Great Recession under Biden and the stock market has Crashed into a Bear Market, things that never happened under Trump"?
"We were better off 4 years ago than now"?
Why not? Could be fun.
More than 200 former Bush, McCain and Romney staffers endorse Harris.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kamala-...-romney-staff/
More than 200 former Bush, McCain and Romney staffers endorse Harris.
The alumni of the three Republican presidential nominees sought to reiterate their opposition to Trump's 2020 re-election in an open letter.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...ris-rcna168363
More than 200 former Republican presidential staffers sign open letter endorsing Harris over Trump.
More than 200 staffers for four previous Republican presidential nominees have endorsed Democrat Kamala Harris' White House bid.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire...tter-113188280
More than 200 former Republican presidential staffers sign open letter endorsing Harris over Trump.
https://apnews.com/article/kamala-ha...6b3e1e126edbc9
More than 200 Bush, McCain, Romney alums endorse Harris for president, criticize Trump.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...4/74947380007/
More Than 200 Former Republican Presidential Staffers Sign Open Letter Endorsing Harris Over Trump.
More than 200 staffers for four previous Republican presidential nominees have endorsed Democrat Kamala Harris' White House bid.
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...ris-over-trump
Perhaps your favorite one:
Over 200 former Bush, McCain, Romney staffers endorse Harris: 'The alternative ... is simply untenable'.
An open letter calls on 'moderate Republicans and conservative independents' to vote for Vice President Kamala Harris.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ove...mply-untenable
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08-28-24 05:32 #15375Senior Member

Posts: 7457Repubs voted to Defund the Police, not Dems
Oh my god. The ignorance and Revisionist History by Wingers is unbounded and dangerous:
Fact check: The GOPs dishonesty-filled barrage of defund the police attack ads.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/23/polit...rms/index.html
'Republicans are defunding the police: Fox News anchor stumps congressman.Pelosi said in February that defunding the police is not the position of the Democratic Party and said in 2020 that from the standpoint of our legislation, were not going to that place. During Pelosis tenure as House speaker under President Joe Biden, Democrats have passed policing reform legislation, not defunding legislation. In fact, they have passed legislation that provides additional funding to police.
Chris Wallace quizzes Jim Banks of Indiana on Fox News Sunday.
Biden: $350bn in bill opposed by GOP is for law enforcement.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...sman-jim-banks
They are now rehashing Repub MAGA Winger lies that have been debunked countless times FOR YEARS!The Fox News anchor Chris Wallace made headlines of his own on Sunday, by pointing out to a senior Republican that he and the rest of his party recently voted against $350bn in funding for law enforcement.
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08-28-24 04:33 #15374Senior Member

Posts: 2682Um, no.
Durov's arrest has nothing or very little to do with Crypto or the US (probably). Volodin is one of Putin's henchmen -- anything these people say is a lie.
Originally Posted by SubCmdr
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The Russians are very scared to lose Telegram. In absence of viable and secure communication devices, the Russian troops are using Telegram on frontlines for combat operations: to coordinate attacks, share satellite photos, etc. In addition, the platform serves as an ideological vehicle to advance the Kremlin narrative.
Telegram and the war: Durov's arrest could complicate Russia's war in Ukraine, experts say
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2...ilitary-in-ukr
The French, however, are more concerned with Telegram's marketplace that sells anything from drugs and weapons to child pornography. Hardly surprising since Durov, a citizen of France, has refused to do anything about it.
Telegram CEO arrested over probe into child porn, drug trafficking on app
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...er-2024-08-26/
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08-28-24 04:17 #15373Senior Member

Posts: 2682Wow!
That's one masterful metaphor.
Originally Posted by CoolieHigh
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08-28-24 03:48 #15372Senior Member

Posts: 7457This should surprise no one by now. It is what Repubs do.
Not only did Trump's classic Repub economic and national security policies, decisions and stewardship lay the groundwork to convert a likely manageable epidemic isolated and confined to one region in China until plenty of fully tested and safe vaccines could be invented and distributed around the world into the historically deadly and worldwide economy-destroying Trump's Pandemic it became with all of the global supply-chain Inflation, skyrocketing prices for rent, food and gas that followed, but his 2nd term plan is to wreak economic havoc even beyond the historic damage he produced in his 1st term.
Add this assessment by Trump's alma mater to all the other Nobel Prize-winning economists' assessments for his 2nd term plan triggering even more inflation and wiping out millions more jobs than the historic heights on those and other factors his 1st term produced.
Trump budget plan would spike deficits 5 times more than Harris: Penn Wharton.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/27/trum...ndroidappshare
Only enemies of America, domestic and foreign, would want a Repub to occupy the Oval Office in the White House ever again. And most especially since we have seen what that Party's Geatest Iconic Representative, Donald J. Trump, is like, what he has done and since the Repub MAGA 6 in the Supreme Court has made it abundantly clear that any Repub Majority in that Court now and forever will always rule in favor of any Repub potus' effort and desire to be declared King and Above the Law.Republican Donald Trumps economic proposals would increase federal deficits by almost five times more over the next decade than those of Democratic nominee Vice President Kamala Harris, per two reports by the Penn Wharton Budget Model.
Harris has proposed raising corporate taxes to pay for her plan while Trump has put forward a hardline tariff policy on all imports, including higher rates for China.
The Trump and Harris campaigns are in a race to paint the other side as an economic danger, each trying to win over voters fatigued by the higher cost of living.
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08-27-24 23:39 #15371Senior Member

Posts: 192Sorry for your loss RamDavidson84
"Biden's own party pulled a fucking coup on him he was so senile LOL. ".
This is my flow chart: COUNTRY > PARTY > Individual.
If an invidual isn't fit to do a job, I would think the Party should step in to intervene.
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08-27-24 19:50 #15370Senior Member

Posts: 804See'Mon., don't twist my post with that word jiu jitsu shit LOL. I never said being poor was a crime. Most of those people in tents living on the sidewalks in front of people's homes and businesses are not just poor. Majority are irresponsible drug addicts who are also criminals. I see it everyday bro. And to the small percenatge that are just people who are down on their luck, absolutely my heart goes out to them. My heart goes out to the people who got hooked on drugs as well. But you can't allow that to happen to a city.
Originally Posted by Spidy
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Step 1: Secure the border and stop the flow of fentanyl.
Step 2: More funding for police and social services to remove the tents, criminals, and drug addicts from public places.
Step 3: Harsher laws for criminals.
Step 4: Strengthen economy and fight inflation so everyone has opportunity to earn money for themselves so they don't end up in desperate situations. Strong economy also means more tax dollars for social services.
The solution is definitely not "defund the police" and let drug addicts take over cities like they did in Seattle during the "summer of love" LOL, or just let riots breakout across the country where innocent businesses are burned to the ground and then pretend they are not rioters but peaceful protesters.
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08-27-24 19:22 #15369Senior Member

Posts: 1745Heavy Hand of Trump?
I understand it's just your opinion, but do you have anything to compare and contrast the two (2) president's accomplishments to backup your opinion, as to why you think, Trump "would have been much better"? Or why Trump isn't the worse president in US history vs. Biden as the 14th Best, other than just an "opinion"?
Originally Posted by RamDavidson84
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Perhaps! At age 81, it's expected your cognitive skills do diminish, but Biden isn't anywhere near the point of senility you're suggesting.
Originally Posted by RamDavidson84
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At age 78, Trump's cognitive skill have also diminished, far more considerably IMHO. But he just masks it better, since 95% of the stuff that comes outta his mouth is babbling bullshit and lies, IMHO. (Note: To be honest, it is really not just "my opinion", there are tons of sites tracking his lies. Saw one the other day, pronouncing him the biggest liar in US political history).
So if he's constantly uttering lies, nonsense and gibberish, does that sound like a rational person to you? Do you even know what's REAL, when he say's (...trying to use his Jedi mind trick):- " That's it! You just tell them and they believe. They just do!" or "People will just believe you. You just tell them, and they believe you."
You've addressed quite a few things here, but I will only address one thing w/r to the "tent villages". And BTW, sorry for your loss!
Originally Posted by RamDavidson84
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So last I checked being poor or poverty stricken isn't a crime. While tent villages may go against city bylaws, it is not a crime either. So how would you have your "heavy handed" Trump administration deal with the unwanted "tent villages" along US streets all around the country, since these people aren't committing crimes? (Unlike Trump and his 34 felony conviction!)
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08-27-24 19:18 #15368Senior Member

Posts: 804Unprecedented to see political party members switch? You didn't notice Tulsi Gabbard and RFK jr? Just saying, it goes both ways. Those 200 people are no name nothings as well. I don't think its as big a deal as you make it out to be which is why no main stream media outlets have even covered it.
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