Bangkok Reports

[Werqweq]

I was walking down sukhumvit Soi 33 in the afternoon, looking for a
legit Thai massage from a reasonable easy on the eyes woman. After one
hour of straight Thai massage, where my offer of an extra 1000 for BJ
was rejected and I was not in the mood to pay the 1500 she requested,
I tipped her my customary 100 baht and started walking back up the Soi.

My time in Thailand is nearing it's end, so I thought I'd venture out
to Nana and Cowboy in the evening, even though I've mostly left alone
the handful of times I've gone there these last two months. However,
as I was walking back up the soi, I could not help to notice it was,
in addition to regular massage places, full of sex-shops too, so after
some walking I decided to stop in on each and every one of the shops
remaining on my walk back.

Sorry to say, but I did not see anyone I liked until the last shop.
In each shop I entered I asked for girls with no baby, and no silicone,
which reduced the number of possible contenders to half or less at
all shops. The remaining were either overweight (I'd say this accounted
for more 40% of the ones remaining), too old (another 40%) or
not particularly attractive (20%).

The shops seemed to be doing good business however, as most of them
had one or two customers already inside and looking at the menus when I
entered.

The standard procedure is that you enter, and they show you the menu with
prices, asking you what course you want. I usually just cast a glimpse at
the menu, to verify the prices are the same as in other shops, and instead tell them to
show me the girls first.
This was fine in every shop except one, where the, admittedly rather attractive manager,
asked me to chose the duration first, so she could know the schedule
or something. This annoyed me a tiny bit, but I could see her point,
if this was it, that if I wanted 90 minutes, she would not show me the
girls who had a booking coming up in 60 minutes, so I told her one hour.

She then asked me to select what course I wanted, which annoyed me
slightly more, so I told her I will decide later, let me see the girls
first. She responded by politely asking me to please select what course
I wanted, for some reason or other, but at that point I just rolled my
eyes at her, put my earbuds back in, and walked out, while hearing her
say something in the background, possibly "ok, ok, come back please",
but I'm not sure.

Went inside two-three more shops after that one, including some nuru
place which *only* had BigBigWomen. I can imagine a body-to-body
massage feels better if there is some BBW on top of you, but it's
not for me, so I hastily retreated.

Last shop was one I've not seen mentioned often, but someone did mention
it very recently. It's Princess massage, down the same Soi as the
BJ-place with that horrible beast of a receptionist (7-heaven), and you
will see it on the left just before 7-heaven. From their webpage
I see they have just very recently opened, in June this year, which
is perhap the reason they have not been mentioned much.

With Princess massage there now, there is no need to enter 7-heaven
anymore and subject yourself to the horrible receptionist there.
Not all are horrible, but there is one who, if you knew Thai, you could
hear referring to a customer as "it". Even if you don't know Thai,
her attitude to customers is horrible and it's obvious she despises all of us.
She has been working there for 5+ years at least, so obviously management does not care,
or even worse, she may even be one of the owners.

Better go into Princess and pay a bit more, but be treated with at
least a minuscule of respect. At Princess you will also see the girls
in a live lineup, rather than just on a silly tablet showing heavily
photoshopped photos, as they do at 7-heaven. That is what I will
be doing from now on.

Anyway, back to Princess massage, which seems to have the website
https://princess33sukhumvit.x.2nt.com/englishh-page/index-e.html

I entered, and already from outside I got the first impression there
might be some decent looking girls here. The manager of the hour invited
me to sit down on the sofa, next to an asian dude who was putting on his
shoes and getting ready to leave. A line-up was starting to slowly form,
but I interrupted it by telling the manager that I wanted no baby and
no silicone, at which point I was left with only two girls. If you do
not care about that, I could see there were at least one or two girls
amongst the ones who left who were also pretty. Compare this with the
other 4-6 shops I stopped by and where I did not see anyone.

Fortunately one of the two babyless and siliconeless girls left standing
was rather good looking (better than anyone I've seen at Nana or Cowboy
the times I've visited the last two months I'd say), so I indicated my
victim to the manager, and told her I'd have the one hour Thai special,
which includes one shot I was informed upon asking.

Miss X is listed as 20 year old on the webpage, and I have no reason
to think she's older than that (rather, she told me she was one year
younger than that when I asked). She looks pretty much the same as the
photos on the webpage, which might indicate this shop does not photoshop
their photos much, if at all. She provided good service, but refused
BB due to her stated fear of baby. I explained I'd had a vasectomy,
but she seemed uncertain still (well, who can blame her, as anyone can
say anything). My offer of an extra 1,000 was also rejected.


So, due to my own short-comings (it seems that after I, as of 2 months
ago, started to bang p4p girls without condom also, I'm having a hard
time getting hard with a condom, pun intended. Not impossible, but not
automatic as before), I had to settle for a rather good BBBJCIM,
even though I paid for FS.

The girl did make a decent effort at getting me hard again with her
mouth, but unfortunately while she then fiddled with the condom,
my little Somchai feel asleep. This was repeated once more as I was
grinding my dick against her pussy, at which point she asked some more
about my vasectomy, and agreed to BB for an extra 2,000, but I did not
want to pay that, so instead told her to just blow me till completion
without ever entering her pussy, with or without condom.

I say the BJ was good as she could go, while not deepthroat, at least
quite deep, and she did not pull away when her mouth started filling
with the product of her labour, but rather let me finish in peace.

The rather loud and and unromantic sounds she shortly thereafter made
in the shower left little doubt what the answer to "spit or swallow"
was in this case however.

It's not listed on the webpage, but while I was paying for my girl,
another asian dude had entered and another manager woman was explaining
the menu to him. I'm pretty sure I overheard the manager explaining
that one of the courses included BJ only. If that is true, even
less reason to walk the extra 15 meters to 7-heaven.

I'd rate the BJ as good as any I received at 7-heaven, and the girl as
considerably prettier. She also informed me that there was one girl
working there who provided sex without condom. I did not ask who,
but I guess you can ask the manager yourself if you want, as it was
obviously not a secret.

After that I walked to gym, then walked to Soi 22 and again overate at
the Goji buffet at Marriot. As I exited Marriot and on my way home,
I noticed a young decent looking girl in one of the massage shops
immediately before Marriot. I had noticed her when walking down the
soi to Marriot two hours before also, and kind a hoped she would still
be sitting outside the shop. As she was, I told her I would like a 90
minute Thai massage from her, paid the 450 baht for that, and up we went.

I stripped down naked and then put on the pants and shirt, and lay down.
After a few minutes she came in and started to massage me competently, and
after a while I could hear a couple two cubicles down banging away quietly,
but I did not say anything and just kept relaxing with my eyes closed.

She was not gun shy while massaging me, but neither did she deliberately
fondle my balls as some girls do in the hopes you will pay them for
extra service, so now and then little Somchai made his presence known,
but I did not say anything and neither did she. And thus the nice Thai
massage continued. She was a rather small girl, so I was slightly
surprised at how decent her massage was.

I don't enjoy talking much during a massage, so we had only exchanged
4-5 sentences each during the 70 minutes that had now passed, and it
did not seem like she would be making any offer for extra service.
Except if the girl is unusually pretty, I almost always wait for her
to ask if I want something extra, as obviously it's a better starting
point for negotiating the price, and in 95+% of the cases, the girl/woman
will ask if it's a massage place around this area.

This girl however was apparently not going to ask me, so it seemed
I had to take matter into my own hands before time ran out. At that
point she was walking on my back and legs, so I obviously had to be
a bit careful so as to not make her fall down.

Even though we had only exchanged a few sentences in total during the 70
minutes of massage so far, with a thousand or more thai massages under my
belt I fortunately don't have much trouble gauging where the line between
"farang tries to rape innocent massage girl" headline in the next days
newspaper, and playful flirting goes, even with little communication
having passed.

So as she was walking on the back of my legs and with 20 minutes of the
session left, I gently turned around and pulled her down to me on the
mattress. After a handful of "what?", "what?"s from her, I rolled her
over on her back and started to grind my hard dick against her pussy while
we were still clothed, also fondling her breasts and eventually trying
to get me hands on her breasts under her bra, and with her pushing my
hands away.

I would not recommend doing this unless you are pretty sure about
your own ability to gauge things, as it could backfire in an ugly way,
even if perhaps not newspaper worthy. Rather I'd strongly advice against
doing what I did above. Much better and safer is to just very slowly and
gently, lead her hand to your dick while she's massaging in that area.
If she does not want to provide any extra services, she will politely
indicate so there and then, and you should not do anything more than
enjoy the massage the rest of the time.

Anyway, we talked a little bit more at this point, with her asking me
my age, and me asking her her age. I'm pretty good at guessing Thai
girls age, but she had turned down the light and I could not see clearly,
so when she asked me to guess, my guess of 23-24 slightly offended her,
as she was only 20.

At this point I was thinking I'm just going to bang her without asking
about the price, even though it means I will have to later give her 2,000
(going rate more or less) rather than the 1,000 I usually negotiate in
advance, so I started to pull of her small shorts, but she stopped me.

I offered her an extra 1,000 tip. She declined and said 2,000, I offered
1,500, but she declined that too, so I said ok, 2,000. She then asked me
to give her the money, but I said I would give her the money afterwards.

After that I pulled off her shorts with underwear, and she asked about condom, but I
said I did not want. She worried about baby, but I told her I'd had
a vasectomy, and after confirming that a few times, she let me enter.
Banged her quietly for the 15 minutes remaining, as somebody was again
entering a cubicle two spots further down, and out of my normal politeness
making an effort at having her enjoy it too. Enough for her having
to cover her mouth with her hand for the last 5 minutes or so, though
I'm pretty sure she did not cum.

After finishing in her pussy, she asked me if I wanted to take a shower,
but I told her I'd take one when I get home instead. When getting
dressed, at first she could not find her shorts and underwear, and I
joked that I had thrown them outside the cubicle in the heat of the
moment. As she still could not find them, I repeated the joke a few
times, until she in the end turned on the light and could find them.

Asked her before leaving if she had line (messaging app used here), which
she had, so she added me to her line app and messaged me a "hi" so I would
have her contact too, and a "good night" later on. I'll probably invite
her over one of the few nights I have remaining here in Bangkok for a
Thai massage at my airbnb as she's young, decent looking (a 7 I guess?
Better than anyone but a handful I've seen at Nana/Soi Cowboy), gives
good massage, playful, and has a nice tight pussy.

[Nyezhov]

Hello all,

I am in Bangkok and staying in Sukhumvit area. I'll be here for a week and Any help is much appreciated for any contacts or how to make the best of stay here. My DM is active. Thanks in advance.

Go over to the Thermae and get laid.

[Avi 0018]

Hello all,

I am in Bangkok and staying in Sukhumvit area. I'll be here for a week and Any help is much appreciated for any contacts or how to make the best of stay here. My DM is active. Thanks in advance.

[PgReal]

And you are all hiding out on TF. Can't escape them!!

Sorry, typo. "they" the fat girls are all on TF! Wasn't referring to you 'Davey'.

For any newbies, do pay particular attention to the 'weight' field on TF.

What is the obsession on TF of girls showing food in their photos!! Usually stuffing their gobs some form of fast food!

[PgReal]

Like the old saying goes "fat girls need loving too".

And you are all hiding out on TF. Can't escape them!!

[Goatscrot]

Yes agreed, especially since my main mongering happens in Germany and Belgium, I just don't find thin girls attractive. Don't get me wrong, I find many thin women attractive, but the older ones in these spas don't have the proportions for me. In L. A. The Koreans are gorgeous and thin but well proportioned for me. For my last spot, I went to Duangporn and the thinner older (35-40) woman just couldn't get me to finish. Try as she did.

Old is not a turn on, fat or thin. I think overall many who still live in the west are attracted to larger women because most women in the West are overweight. In America 43% of adults are obese. Not just overweight but obese. Now don't get me wrong, I don't like a bone rack, nor do I like a thin girl with no muscle tone, which I would label skinny fat. But a girl that is in shape, exercises, and takes care of herself is a wonderful thing to find. Luckily in Asia there is still a certain aesthetic for females and we have escaped the entire body positive nonsense in the West.

[Davey1965]

Yes agreed, especially since my main mongering happens in Germany and Belgium, I just don't find thin girls attractive. Don't get me wrong, I find many thin women attractive, but the older ones in these spas don't have the proportions for me. In L. A. The Koreans are gorgeous and thin but well proportioned for me. For my last spot, I went to Duangporn and the thinner older (35-40) woman just couldn't get me to finish. Try as she did.

Like the old saying goes "fat girls need loving too".

[OlgaVaz]

Audi almost a BBW? She at least 15 k if not 20 k overweight. That's big, very big.

I've noticed that so many punters, probably do to the enormous size of women outside of Asia have a very different idea of what is fat than the majority of us that live here. Unless she's quite tall anything over 50 K is just about too big.

Yes agreed, especially since my main mongering happens in Germany and Belgium, I just don't find thin girls attractive. Don't get me wrong, I find many thin women attractive, but the older ones in these spas don't have the proportions for me. In L. A. The Koreans are gorgeous and thin but well proportioned for me. For my last spot, I went to Duangporn and the thinner older (35-40) woman just couldn't get me to finish. Try as she did.

[Zam007]

Overall a fun trip and I would potentially go back one day. Enjoyed the pussy and the food was pretty good too. Cheers guys. Sorry for the long post!

Glad you had fun. It was a nice report. Thank You.

[WhatDHell]

Just finished out 10 days in Thailand. Spent 5 days in Bangkok and 5 in Pattaya. Hoping this detailed report will be useful to others traveling out this way.

Thanks for sharing your experience, it's a lot of useful information, even though I am the guy that likes to spend time in the gogo bars perving at the girls, etc.

I'm planning a short trip and will likely be spending time in Baccara and wild house before picking one from Thermae for ST.

[Sychip1]

Just finished out 10 days in Thailand. Spent 5 days in Bangkok and 5 in Pattaya. Hoping this detailed report will be useful to others traveling out this way. I'm posting in both the Bangkok and Pattaya threads.

Just by way of quick background, I'm from NYC and frequent a lot of the agencies there that have young Japanese girls working, so that was sorta my reference point for this trip. Now that I've mongered abroad, I'm starting to realize how good we have it in NYC as far as quality and service goes, although it is expensive. My report on the 10 days spent in Thailand is as follows:

Bangkok:

Great report, definitely a man on a mission I'the say!

Definitely hear you on the costs in Bangkok, but you should really tack on a trip to Jakarta next time you're in Asia. You're talking USD25 for ST and USD35 for 3-some ST at Classic hotel where there's 250 girls in miniskirts to choose from. Indonesian girls can look like Malay / Indian right through to Japanese / Korean.

Bangkok in general the costs are rising a lot actually, eating out can be very expensive at the mid to higher-end places.

And how did you get the Baccara girls to dance on you after a drink? They are known to be the type to sit there like a doll in my experience.

[WintersLight]

Just finished out 10 days in Thailand. Spent 5 days in Bangkok and 5 in Pattaya. Hoping this detailed report will be useful to others traveling out this way. I'm posting in both the Bangkok and Pattaya threads.

Dozo Massage: Not very GFE but the Mat play and nuru were pretty good, think I spent about it 6-8 k for 60 minutes.

Aya Massage: Did 60 minutes nuru with a fairly hot girl, probably late 20's early 30's. Price was quite low at just 5 k baht for nuru and VIP room.

Cheers guys. Sorry for the long post!

JPlove, thanks for taking the time to share. Great post. Just curious about the Dozo and Aya prices, that seems steep to me? Even their websites list 60 min VIP Nuru at Dozo for 4100 baht, and 60 min VIP nuru at Aya for 3500 baht? Or did you go for add-ONS like BB, anal, etc?

I hear you about the go-gos, I don't drink either and I'm not in BKK to sit around with dozens of drunk sweaty dudes, or listen to f**king 80's rock at ear-bleeding volumes, so I'd just prefer to walk in, buy a girl a drink, and walk out with her in 20 minutes. But that's not the business model these days, and after several drinks and all the barfine / ST fees it doesn't even seem worth it.

Thanks for tip on hotels. I've walked by S15 but never gone in, were the rooms nice? Can't quite tell how small or dark they are from the online pics, but the location close to Thermae is appealing. And no problem with bringing girls back?

[WintersLight]

Gents and veterans.

Was wondering if there was a place where many non-thai (I. E. Viet, Cambodian, Laos, Chinese, etc.) girls and freelancers normally hang out at to be picked up.

As others have mentioned, many of the freelancers off of Soi 4 will be non-Thai. (And, sometimes, non-female, but that's another topic). Especially Vietnamese, but not the pale 20-something Viet beauties of your dreams, but their rough-and-ready aunties who are about 15+ years into the game. As Nyezov mentioned, a lot of the Viet girls have a reputation for ripping you off either in time management, or worse. Make sure you've locked all valuables into your hotel safe.

There's a short-term hotel off the end of Soi 6, Orchid, that is home to a lot of Filipina freelancers, mainly working off massage republic. Also a big home for ladyboys, though, so careful if you're not into that. Massage Republic is a site that will list a lot of different nationalities, though their prices seemed a bit steep to me?

Some of the seedier, less-talked about massage spots on Soi 24/1 employ non-Thais. I met women from Burma and Laos especially from spots in that street like Boss Boss, Candy, Can Can, etc.

Good luck!

[Nyezhov]

Just finished out 10 days in Thailand. Spent 5 days in Bangkok and 5 in Pattaya. Hoping this detailed report will be useful to others traveling out this way. I'm posting in both the Bangkok and Pattaya threads.

Just by way of quick background, I'm from NYC and frequent a lot of the agencies there that have young Japanese girls working, so that was sorta my reference point for this trip. Now that I've mongered abroad, I'm starting to realize how good we have it in NYC as far as quality and service goes, although it is expensive. My report on the 10 days spent in Thailand is as follows:

Bangkok:

La belle: Tried this place on my last day as I wanted to experience one of Bangkok's famous "entertainment complexes". The place is basically a hotel but for hookers and massage LOL. Big lobby when you walk in where customers can sit and drink. Girls are up on a stage and seated near the bar as well. Every girl had a different ranking / price with the lower end being about $3 k baht for 90 minutes while upper end was 6-8 k. Most of the pricier girls had a more East Asian look with pale skin, and a few that I talked to said they were in fact mixed Thai / Chinese. I ended up doing a double here for under 10 k baht. Fun times but I do think you will find younger, cuter and less seasoned girls working at the gogo bars. You will also be able to get extras at the gogos like BBFS and video if that's your thing. I doubt these upgrades are on the table at soapy massage joints. I will also note that they don't have air mats at La Belle, which sorta sucks. You will get a nice soapy massage in the tub but they can't really do nuru. Still, this place was an experience, had around 30 girls available when I went during the afternoon, and there was way less BS to deal with compared to gogo. Good prices too.

Dozo Massage: Went here on my first day and I was so exhausted from the 20 hour flight I almost fell asleep during the mat play LOL. Similar experience to La belle but fewer girls and smaller venue. Not very GFE but the Mat play and nuru were pretty good, think I spent about it 6-8 k for 60 minutes. Tried to come back here on my last night but they only had 3 girls available so I bailed. I would recommend the place. Girls were hot and the soapy massage plus mat play was pretty damn good. But I think you're better off going early in the day. Seemed kinda dead when I went at night. During my first visit I went in the afternoon and they gave me a lineup of maybe 6-7 girls.

Aya Massage: This place was good bang for buck. Did 60 minutes nuru with a fairly hot girl, probably late 20's early 30's. Price was quite low at just 5 k baht for nuru and VIP room. Not my most memorable experience and again, no air mat for nuru. But if you're looking for some low cost fun, it's a good option. They gave me a lineup of at least 20 girls. A few of their girls were hot and young, some less so. It's a mid tier spot.

Kings Castle 1: Best gogo bar I went to in PatPong. I never would have found this spot on my own. But I was fortunate enough to meet another American at one of the gogo bars who had spent 6 months living in Bangkok. He took me to patpong one night and we ended up at this place. They have hot young girls and I took home a gem. One of my favorite girls of the trip. Young, slim and cute with braces, no tattoos, perfect tits and a tight ass. Wanted her to stay for overnight but she had class in the AM haha. Paid 5 k for ST plus 2 k tip to creampie her.

Baccara: The only place on Soi Cowboy that I found was worth my time. My newfound expat buddy mentioned above introduced me to the place during my first or second night in Bangkok. They had some hot young girls working, but overall I found quality was much better in Nana Plaza. The main thing I liked about Baccara was it had a good vibe. All girls wore short skirts without panties and the bar right in front of the stage was a mirror hehe. Also, if you're on the first floor and look up, you can see through the stage on the second floor where more girls are dancing. Just tons of good upskirt action (seemed to be the theme at this place) and pretty fun putting these no panty girls on your lap after buying them a drink. Some girls will let you get a nice handful of bare ass and pussy LOL. The management was pretty chill too and wouldn't squeeze too hard on drinks.

Private 69: Smaller place on Nana plazas second floor but it had some hot young girls. I found a real gem here who I did long time with. Cost for long time was 8 k total including drinks. We vibed well and she was a hot young mixed Chinese / Thai girl, so I brought her along with me for part of the vacation. Banged her at least 5 times.

Rainbow 5: this was the bar where I met that other American and he told me that Rainbow 5 is the best spot in Nana. It just might be. ST barfine 5 k total and girls were young and hot. Long time was maybe around 8 k. Most of the clientele here was Asian and that's how you know the pussy is good. It's the same at the NYC agencies haha. I was one of the few white guys in that bar.

Billboard: I brought a pretty fun young girl home from here on the first night. Honestly forget what the barfine was, I want to say it was around 5 k for ST. Quality seemed pretty good overall. But when I went back later in the trip I didn't see many girls that caught my eye. Not enough college cuties here for my taste haha.

Shark / Afterskool: Located in soi cowboy, both places were duds for me. One of them (I forget which) really fucking annoyed me because they had cute young girls out front and on the stage but you couldn't barfine any of them. I bought drinks for 2 or 3 different girls before I was told you can't barfine any girls whose number started with a 5. Well, all the hot young girls had a number that started with 5 LOL. I told the two girls I was drinking with that the place was a waste of time, then paid my tab and walked the F out. Before I left they tried to show me one of the girls you could barfine and well. Not good LOL. Hard pass.

Pattaya:

Pinup: Probably the best bar on walking street in terms of quality of girls. Many cute young college girls. However they will milk the ever living shit out of you on drinks and the barfine is high. ST here was around 7 k all in and long time was slightly over 10 k. Compare that to Bangkok where the going rate is 4-5 k for short and 7. 5 for long. They also have some bullshit rule where if you want to barfine a girl, you need to buy an additional 5 drinks, so add another 1,000 baht. I recall I barfined a girl here and bought the 5 drinks for her so we could leave. She didn't even drink them. If you want to feel out a few different ladies, you will drop an easy 1. 5 k on drinks here. They also have different prices for different girls with some being assigned "model" designation and given a higher rate.

XS: Comparable quality to Pin up. I barfined some young hotties from here. Price slightly lower than Pin up and the vibe was a bit better too. Think I took home 2 or 3 girls from this bar. They had the same BS rule about buying 5 drinks before you barfined the girl. I told MMS to her face that "you guys really milk the tourist money here in Pattaya. " She got all pissy with me over that and told me to go back to Bangkok LOL. I did still buy the 5 drinks for the girl I wanted to barfine. She downed 5 tequilas then puked when I brought her back to my hotel. Thanks MMS. Stupid fucking rule. Just greedy BS. Anyways, moving on.

Opium: Pretty good but a rung below XS and pinup in terms of quality. I brought home one girl from this place and she was hot but attitude / service wasn't great. Mid to late 20's Chinese looking chick.

LK Metro area: I went here one night and it wasn't good. Girls weren't very hot and clearly older. Many bars had girls who were topeless or fully nude, which was nice. However, the hottest and youngest girls never go topless let alone fully nude. I bailed on LK after I walked the street and popped into a few different bars. Found the quality on walking street to be much better. Even the soi 6 cheapie girls looked better than most of the LK metro ladies. I'the heard that it was a hot spot, so maybe I just had bad timing.

Soi 6: I walked this street 2-3 times and checked out a few bars I can't rember the name of, but didn't fuck any girls here. Prices were very low compared to walking street. Girls would do ST for just 1,500 baht, others were asking for closer to 4 K. Quality was lower here IMO and girls were more high volume. It's also more of an incall experience since you just take them upstairs to fuck, rather than going back to your hotel. Not really my thing and I'the rather pay a bit more for the high end stuff. Still a fun experience just to walk the street and have the girls grab at you though.

General thoughts:

I liked Bangkok more than Pattaya. There's more to do there besides just mongering and the food is better. But also girls are just as hot IMO. Prices are much fairer, as Pattaya is upcharging hard for tourists on walking street. Not only are Bangkok prices better and girls just as good, but the bars are chiller and don't milk as hard in drinks. Pattaya also has some bullshit rule where if you want to pull a girl off the stage, you need to buy her 5 drinks. Otherwise you wait for her to finish dancing, which can take 15 minutes. This wasted a lot of time IMO and I didn't like having to sit around waiting. What I started doing in Pattaya just to move shit along was I would pick two girls at a time and buy both drinks. Then if neither were good, get another two when there was a new rotation. Feel out both girls and maybe one was good enough for barfine. Bangkok bars on the other hand let you pull the girl (or girls) you wanted right off stage with no wait time. This felt more organic IMO and meant less time was wasted. If I returned to Thailand one day, idk that I'd go to Pattaya again. Probably Bangkok and Phuket.

Prices were a bit higher than I expected. Don't get me wrong, it's still cheaper than the USA But it's not quite the cheap pussy paradise people make it out to be. Maybe it was 10 years ago, but no longer. I probably paid about 7 k baht all in on average to barfine chicks for ST. That's not much cheaper than NYC girls. Plus you've got hotel and airfare to pay. You can fuck Japanese college girls in Manhattan for about $240 for 30 minutes, so at a certain point coming to Thailand for mongering doesn't make a ton of sense when you factor in time, convenience and other expenses on top of 5-7 k baht ST barfine. The Japanese girls in NY are also just higher quality overall IMO. Obviously it's an experience to come here, but just food for thought. I'm glad I came when I did because in another 10 years it really may not make much sense anymore in terms of cost.

I liked the gogo bar system, but it's not perfect. I am on the younger side and in decent shape, so was able to barfine most of the girls I wanted. I did run into a few of the so called "coyotes" who are basically the very hot and very young girls (the type I was after) who just don't do barfine and instead will milk customers for drinks. My first few days in Bangkok I loved the gogo bars and thought they were fun as shit. But towards the end of the trip I started to grow tired of the mating ritual and my luck started to run out. I found most of the best bar girls early on in my trip. I also ran into some trouble towards the end because I had barfined many girls from the same bars, and the girls there clearly starting to know me and talk about me amongst each other. While I don't really give a shit if the girls talk, I felt this made it harder to barfine new girls at a certain point. The girls and the management have remarkably good memories at these places, and they are watching you closely. One girl I bought a drink for at Private 69 remembered seeing me in there a week prior, remembered which girl I had barfined and even remembered where I had sat. I had never met this girl until I bought her drink, but apparently she knew me. No issues like this at the soapy massage places, it was a more straightforward service there. I didn't play with any freelancers during my trip but I imagine it's more straightforward with those ladies as well.

I will also say I noticed that a lot of guys seemed to go to these gogo bars to just drink and hang out. My approach was very different. I was not going to gogo bars to hang out, I was going to barfine hot young girls. I would get bored after hanging out there for more than 40 minutes. Most of the girls don't really even dance on stage so it's not that entertaining. If I didn't see girls I wanted to fuck, I would leave immediately and go to another bar. I was like a man on a mission and was trying to move fast so I could potentially fuck two girls a night. This was harder in Pattaya since they forced you to sit around and wait for the girls to get off stage. I would also change girls real fast if I bought them drinks and didn't like their vibe or their look. I do think that my overall approach rubbed the girls and the staff the wrong way on a few occasions, and maybe gogos weren't a great fit for my style. Maybe they are just used to customers who like to waste time and spend money on overpriced drinks. I don't even drink alcohol BTW, which they occasionally teased me over. Again I really was just there for the pussy LOL.

Hotels:

Bangkok I stayed at S15 and The Landmark. I would recommend both. S15 a bit cheaper with good central location in between Nana and cowboy. Landmark was much fancier and right next to nana plaza.

Pattaya I stayed at Aya boutique hotel. It was good for bringing girls back since it's so close to walking street, but the hotel wasn't very nice. It looked better online IMO. Also did a night at the Arbour hotel which was much nicer, but sorta far from the action. Can't really recommend either.

All hotels were girl friendly.

Overall a fun trip and I would potentially go back one day. Enjoyed the pussy and the food was pretty good too. Cheers guys. Sorry for the long post!

Nice report. I would just note that in your price comparison, 30 minutes in Bangkok for s decent freelancer is as low as $50. You did the expensive route and that's OK too.

[JPLove]

Just finished out 10 days in Thailand. Spent 5 days in Bangkok and 5 in Pattaya. Hoping this detailed report will be useful to others traveling out this way. I'm posting in both the Bangkok and Pattaya threads.

Just by way of quick background, I'm from NYC and frequent a lot of the agencies there that have young Japanese girls working, so that was sorta my reference point for this trip. Now that I've mongered abroad, I'm starting to realize how good we have it in NYC as far as quality and service goes, although it is expensive. My report on the 10 days spent in Thailand is as follows:

Bangkok:

La belle: Tried this place on my last day as I wanted to experience one of Bangkok's famous "entertainment complexes". The place is basically a hotel but for hookers and massage LOL. Big lobby when you walk in where customers can sit and drink. Girls are up on a stage and seated near the bar as well. Every girl had a different ranking / price with the lower end being about $3 k baht for 90 minutes while upper end was 6-8 k. Most of the pricier girls had a more East Asian look with pale skin, and a few that I talked to said they were in fact mixed Thai / Chinese. I ended up doing a double here for under 10 k baht. Fun times but I do think you will find younger, cuter and less seasoned girls working at the gogo bars. You will also be able to get extras at the gogos like BBFS and video if that's your thing. I doubt these upgrades are on the table at soapy massage joints. I will also note that they don't have air mats at La Belle, which sorta sucks. You will get a nice soapy massage in the tub but they can't really do nuru. Still, this place was an experience, had around 30 girls available when I went during the afternoon, and there was way less BS to deal with compared to gogo. Good prices too.

Dozo Massage: Went here on my first day and I was so exhausted from the 20 hour flight I almost fell asleep during the mat play LOL. Similar experience to La belle but fewer girls and smaller venue. Not very GFE but the Mat play and nuru were pretty good, think I spent about it 6-8 k for 60 minutes. Tried to come back here on my last night but they only had 3 girls available so I bailed. I would recommend the place. Girls were hot and the soapy massage plus mat play was pretty damn good. But I think you're better off going early in the day. Seemed kinda dead when I went at night. During my first visit I went in the afternoon and they gave me a lineup of maybe 6-7 girls.

Aya Massage: This place was good bang for buck. Did 60 minutes nuru with a fairly hot girl, probably late 20's early 30's. Price was quite low at just 5 k baht for nuru and VIP room. Not my most memorable experience and again, no air mat for nuru. But if you're looking for some low cost fun, it's a good option. They gave me a lineup of at least 20 girls. A few of their girls were hot and young, some less so. It's a mid tier spot.

Kings Castle 1: Best gogo bar I went to in PatPong. I never would have found this spot on my own. But I was fortunate enough to meet another American at one of the gogo bars who had spent 6 months living in Bangkok. He took me to patpong one night and we ended up at this place. They have hot young girls and I took home a gem. One of my favorite girls of the trip. Young, slim and cute with braces, no tattoos, perfect tits and a tight ass. Wanted her to stay for overnight but she had class in the AM haha. Paid 5 k for ST plus 2 k tip to creampie her.

Baccara: The only place on Soi Cowboy that I found was worth my time. My newfound expat buddy mentioned above introduced me to the place during my first or second night in Bangkok. They had some hot young girls working, but overall I found quality was much better in Nana Plaza. The main thing I liked about Baccara was it had a good vibe. All girls wore short skirts without panties and the bar right in front of the stage was a mirror hehe. Also, if you're on the first floor and look up, you can see through the stage on the second floor where more girls are dancing. Just tons of good upskirt action (seemed to be the theme at this place) and pretty fun putting these no panty girls on your lap after buying them a drink. Some girls will let you get a nice handful of bare ass and pussy LOL. The management was pretty chill too and wouldn't squeeze too hard on drinks.

Private 69: Smaller place on Nana plazas second floor but it had some hot young girls. I found a real gem here who I did long time with. Cost for long time was 8 k total including drinks. We vibed well and she was a hot young mixed Chinese / Thai girl, so I brought her along with me for part of the vacation. Banged her at least 5 times.

Rainbow 5: this was the bar where I met that other American and he told me that Rainbow 5 is the best spot in Nana. It just might be. ST barfine 5 k total and girls were young and hot. Long time was maybe around 8 k. Most of the clientele here was Asian and that's how you know the pussy is good. It's the same at the NYC agencies haha. I was one of the few white guys in that bar.

Billboard: I brought a pretty fun young girl home from here on the first night. Honestly forget what the barfine was, I want to say it was around 5 k for ST. Quality seemed pretty good overall. But when I went back later in the trip I didn't see many girls that caught my eye. Not enough college cuties here for my taste haha.

Shark / Afterskool: Located in soi cowboy, both places were duds for me. One of them (I forget which) really fucking annoyed me because they had cute young girls out front and on the stage but you couldn't barfine any of them. I bought drinks for 2 or 3 different girls before I was told you can't barfine any girls whose number started with a 5. Well, all the hot young girls had a number that started with 5 LOL. I told the two girls I was drinking with that the place was a waste of time, then paid my tab and walked the F out. Before I left they tried to show me one of the girls you could barfine and well. Not good LOL. Hard pass.

Pattaya:

Pinup: Probably the best bar on walking street in terms of quality of girls. Many cute young college girls. However they will milk the ever living shit out of you on drinks and the barfine is high. ST here was around 7 k all in and long time was slightly over 10 k. Compare that to Bangkok where the going rate is 4-5 k for short and 7. 5 for long. They also have some bullshit rule where if you want to barfine a girl, you need to buy an additional 5 drinks, so add another 1,000 baht. I recall I barfined a girl here and bought the 5 drinks for her so we could leave. She didn't even drink them. If you want to feel out a few different ladies, you will drop an easy 1. 5 k on drinks here. They also have different prices for different girls with some being assigned "model" designation and given a higher rate.

XS: Comparable quality to Pin up. I barfined some young hotties from here. Price slightly lower than Pin up and the vibe was a bit better too. Think I took home 2 or 3 girls from this bar. They had the same BS rule about buying 5 drinks before you barfined the girl. I told MMS to her face that "you guys really milk the tourist money here in Pattaya. " She got all pissy with me over that and told me to go back to Bangkok LOL. I did still buy the 5 drinks for the girl I wanted to barfine. She downed 5 tequilas then puked when I brought her back to my hotel. Thanks MMS. Stupid fucking rule. Just greedy BS. Anyways, moving on.

Opium: Pretty good but a rung below XS and pinup in terms of quality. I brought home one girl from this place and she was hot but attitude / service wasn't great. Mid to late 20's Chinese looking chick.

LK Metro area: I went here one night and it wasn't good. Girls weren't very hot and clearly older. Many bars had girls who were topeless or fully nude, which was nice. However, the hottest and youngest girls never go topless let alone fully nude. I bailed on LK after I walked the street and popped into a few different bars. Found the quality on walking street to be much better. Even the soi 6 cheapie girls looked better than most of the LK metro ladies. I'the heard that it was a hot spot, so maybe I just had bad timing.

Soi 6: I walked this street 2-3 times and checked out a few bars I can't rember the name of, but didn't fuck any girls here. Prices were very low compared to walking street. Girls would do ST for just 1,500 baht, others were asking for closer to 4 K. Quality was lower here IMO and girls were more high volume. It's also more of an incall experience since you just take them upstairs to fuck, rather than going back to your hotel. Not really my thing and I'the rather pay a bit more for the high end stuff. Still a fun experience just to walk the street and have the girls grab at you though.

General thoughts:

I liked Bangkok more than Pattaya. There's more to do there besides just mongering and the food is better. But also girls are just as hot IMO. Prices are much fairer, as Pattaya is upcharging hard for tourists on walking street. Not only are Bangkok prices better and girls just as good, but the bars are chiller and don't milk as hard in drinks. Pattaya also has some bullshit rule where if you want to pull a girl off the stage, you need to buy her 5 drinks. Otherwise you wait for her to finish dancing, which can take 15 minutes. This wasted a lot of time IMO and I didn't like having to sit around waiting. What I started doing in Pattaya just to move shit along was I would pick two girls at a time and buy both drinks. Then if neither were good, get another two when there was a new rotation. Feel out both girls and maybe one was good enough for barfine. Bangkok bars on the other hand let you pull the girl (or girls) you wanted right off stage with no wait time. This felt more organic IMO and meant less time was wasted. If I returned to Thailand one day, idk that I'd go to Pattaya again. Probably Bangkok and Phuket.

Prices were a bit higher than I expected. Don't get me wrong, it's still cheaper than the USA But it's not quite the cheap pussy paradise people make it out to be. Maybe it was 10 years ago, but no longer. I probably paid about 7 k baht all in on average to barfine chicks for ST. That's not much cheaper than NYC girls. Plus you've got hotel and airfare to pay. You can fuck Japanese college girls in Manhattan for about $240 for 30 minutes, so at a certain point coming to Thailand for mongering doesn't make a ton of sense when you factor in time, convenience and other expenses on top of 5-7 k baht ST barfine. The Japanese girls in NY are also just higher quality overall IMO. Obviously it's an experience to come here, but just food for thought. I'm glad I came when I did because in another 10 years it really may not make much sense anymore in terms of cost.

I liked the gogo bar system, but it's not perfect. I am on the younger side and in decent shape, so was able to barfine most of the girls I wanted. I did run into a few of the so called "coyotes" who are basically the very hot and very young girls (the type I was after) who just don't do barfine and instead will milk customers for drinks. My first few days in Bangkok I loved the gogo bars and thought they were fun as shit. But towards the end of the trip I started to grow tired of the mating ritual and my luck started to run out. I found most of the best bar girls early on in my trip. I also ran into some trouble towards the end because I had barfined many girls from the same bars, and the girls there clearly starting to know me and talk about me amongst each other. While I don't really give a shit if the girls talk, I felt this made it harder to barfine new girls at a certain point. The girls and the management have remarkably good memories at these places, and they are watching you closely. One girl I bought a drink for at Private 69 remembered seeing me in there a week prior, remembered which girl I had barfined and even remembered where I had sat. I had never met this girl until I bought her drink, but apparently she knew me. No issues like this at the soapy massage places, it was a more straightforward service there. I didn't play with any freelancers during my trip but I imagine it's more straightforward with those ladies as well.

I will also say I noticed that a lot of guys seemed to go to these gogo bars to just drink and hang out. My approach was very different. I was not going to gogo bars to hang out, I was going to barfine hot young girls. I would get bored after hanging out there for more than 40 minutes. Most of the girls don't really even dance on stage so it's not that entertaining. If I didn't see girls I wanted to fuck, I would leave immediately and go to another bar. I was like a man on a mission and was trying to move fast so I could potentially fuck two girls a night. This was harder in Pattaya since they forced you to sit around and wait for the girls to get off stage. I would also change girls real fast if I bought them drinks and didn't like their vibe or their look. I do think that my overall approach rubbed the girls and the staff the wrong way on a few occasions, and maybe gogos weren't a great fit for my style. Maybe they are just used to customers who like to waste time and spend money on overpriced drinks. I don't even drink alcohol BTW, which they occasionally teased me over. Again I really was just there for the pussy LOL.

Hotels:

Bangkok I stayed at S15 and The Landmark. I would recommend both. S15 a bit cheaper with good central location in between Nana and cowboy. Landmark was much fancier and right next to nana plaza.

Pattaya I stayed at Aya boutique hotel. It was good for bringing girls back since it's so close to walking street, but the hotel wasn't very nice. It looked better online IMO. Also did a night at the Arbour hotel which was much nicer, but sorta far from the action. Can't really recommend either.

All hotels were girl friendly.

Overall a fun trip and I would potentially go back one day. Enjoyed the pussy and the food was pretty good too. Cheers guys. Sorry for the long post!