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  1. #18608

    Initials

    I have been going through the advts of diff service providers and want to know what does HJ, BJ, FJ mean?

    I think HJ is hand job, Blow Job but what is FJ.

  2. #18607

    Lokasari

    I finally checked out the infamous Lokasari. Don't expect it to be like Sukhumvit at night. There are a few mama sans but you have to kind of know what you are looking for. The mama sans have a handful of girls, they call them and do a small line up on the street. Most are very young and some are quite pretty. 500 including the room. Service is very basic. Honestly Classic at the same price has far better selection and you can find gems with good service and cleaner set up. Tried it to say I did. Don't think I would repeat. Mama san would send girls to your hotel for 2-3 hours short time for 700 k.

  3. #18606
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLove  [View Original Post]
    I've hardly come across positive reviews for this place and based on my personal experience I strongly advise visiting against Travel. Location is not a problem, my issue is with service. I checked up personally with a few girls and they said no to DFK and BBBJ. Asked mama's to convince the girls for the same and mama's turned around and said this is a no zone. Ordered grab bike and on to classic with no regrets.
    I completely agree with you on Travel. To me not getting DFK is a deal breaker, and this is the only bar girls wouldn't be open to DFK, don't know why. I was able to negotiate and get DFK at most other bars.

  4. #18605
    Quote Originally Posted by TripCyclone  [View Original Post]
    Hey everyone,

    I'm planning on spending a 3-4 nights in Jakarta for the first time. It sounds like most of the action is at Classic and Emporivm, but people don't recommend actually staying at these places for their hotel. It seems like the price is right and it would be convenient, so I'm just curious why not. Too loud, too dirty?

    Also, for people staying in other hotels, do girls at Classic or Emporivm leave the place and come back to your hotel (like bargirls in Thailand)? Or do they use rooms onsite?

    Thanks in advance, I will make sure to write a report when my trip is over.
    I stayed at Classic last month.

    No issues at all, maybe I'm a bit more hard-nosed but I didn't really get people asking me for tips. Reception lady helpful, she has curly hair with glasses.

    Got a decent rate. In my limited experience the girls don't come offsite.

    And actually it's quite easy to get to Classic via public transport as it's like 12 minutes walk from the metro. Will definitely stay there next month for part of my trip but not all.

  5. #18604
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabacho  [View Original Post]
    If you actually rent a hotel room at Classic is it possible to bring girls from Classic Terminal back to your room or do you still have to use the short time rooms?
    Quote Originally Posted by Zippos  [View Original Post]
    Yes. Very much possible. Been there done that and no issues. As long as you book your room for 2. Classic front desk really doesn't care much as long as there isn't any issues raising from it such as aggressive behavior or fighting. However you may be unsuccessful to bring in a mama if you fancy one.
    Zippo. How long did you have the Classic girl in your Classic room? What was the cost?

  6. #18603
    Agree with you. The price difference at Emporium is well worth paying. I tried both Classic and Emporium last month.

    Girls quality is definitely better at Emporium. Also the total experience is different level than Classic.

    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    It doesn't matter as long as you were happy. You paid 500 K for BBFS with a very pretty girl (twice at that! Sounds like you were happy. That's a win in my book. As for the minimum tip, it is true. I just consider it a price increase and move on from there. Again, if you find the girls, facilities and service worth it, great. If not, there are many cheaper options available as well. I started with Classic the first few trips but more recently I am happy to pay the higher price at Emporium. The girls are consistently young and beautiful, flat belly, tight pussy, firm tits and they all provide excellent service (although BBFS is hit or miss). So even my tastes and preferences have evolved from thinking why pay 1. 4 m when I can get the same at Classic for 400 or 600 but now I feel the quality difference is worth it. Others may differ and that's fine.

    All of this to say, what people pay and tip depends on what its worth to them. As long as you don't feel ripped off and feel good at the end, that's all that really matters.

  7. #18602
    Quote Originally Posted by Werqweq  [View Original Post]
    Ok, I understand. I don't care about those people, but I understand.

    Any others have some advice regarding what's a normal tip?

    I tipped 500,000 my first time at Emporivm after having BBFS twice with the girl. I asked the papasan beforehand, and he told me the price per session included only one shot, so I guesstimated 500,000 would be a decent tip for fucking her twice, and BB at that. Based on the girls reaction this was a decent, but not extravagant tip..
    It doesn't matter as long as you were happy. You paid 500 K for BBFS with a very pretty girl (twice at that! Sounds like you were happy. That's a win in my book. As for the minimum tip, it is true. I just consider it a price increase and move on from there. Again, if you find the girls, facilities and service worth it, great. If not, there are many cheaper options available as well. I started with Classic the first few trips but more recently I am happy to pay the higher price at Emporium. The girls are consistently young and beautiful, flat belly, tight pussy, firm tits and they all provide excellent service (although BBFS is hit or miss). So even my tastes and preferences have evolved from thinking why pay 1. 4 m when I can get the same at Classic for 400 or 600 but now I feel the quality difference is worth it. Others may differ and that's fine.

    All of this to say, what people pay and tip depends on what its worth to them. As long as you don't feel ripped off and feel good at the end, that's all that really matters.

  8. #18601
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    I've learned the hard way that its counter productive to be too detailed on this forum. Sadly there are a lot of creeps here and I don't want to send them to a place demanding exactly the same service and same prices that I got. Or have the girl suddenly become the flavor of the week with everyone chasing her down. Everyone has to learn to do it on their own. And then there are the arm chair critics who will say I paid too much, others will say I exploited the girl etc etc. I do selectively share info by PM with members who I think are decent humans.

    I used to think that whatever I post here cannot affect the scene here but its getting to the point that I am actually afraid of spoiling it. So sorry but reports will remain deliberately a bit vague.
    Ok, I understand. I don't care about those people, but I understand.

    Any others have some advice regarding what's a normal tip?

    I tipped 500,000 my first time at Emporivm after having BBFS twice with the girl. I asked the papasan beforehand, and he told me the price per session included only one shot, so I guesstimated 500,000 would be a decent tip for fucking her twice, and BB at that. Based on the girls reaction this was a decent, but not extravagant tip.

    The next time I happened to go with the same girl (just cause she was considerably prettier IMO than the other options), fucked her once only (the heart was willing, but the flesh was weak), and tipped her 200,000. She looked slightly disappointed, but I'm not sure if it was because my tip was too small compared to what is normal, or because she expected me to tip the same amount as before.
    I later read here that Emporivm recently introduced a mandatory 200,000 tip (can't really call it "tip" then, can you?), so I'm guessing her disappointment was perhaps instead that I only "tipped" the bare minimum.

    At classic I tipped 100,000 normally if service was good. Based on the few reactions received, this was "ok". Neither very good nor very bad.

    If service was not good, I would not tip, which is the main reason I don't like Emporivm's new mandatory tip.

    I didn't see much info about tips here before my trip, so I just had to make some guesses. Any corrections from experienced hands before my next trip, or are these tips ok?

    I'd like to leave a decent tip for good service, but neither too little nor too much.

  9. #18600
    Quote Originally Posted by Werqweq  [View Original Post]
    Some more details would be welcome EA. Including tips offered/asked for and services.

    Hoping to visit again in December myself (one week or so in Jakarta, before continuing to Thailand for three more weeks), but if not I would have taken you up on the offer to meet.

    Stayed at redtop my last time (was also my first time), and it was great, but based on recent reviews here I'm thinking about booking Movenpick instead. My favourite mass produced ice cream it's too. :-)
    I've learned the hard way that its counter productive to be too detailed on this forum. Sadly there are a lot of creeps here and I don't want to send them to a place demanding exactly the same service and same prices that I got. Or have the girl suddenly become the flavor of the week with everyone chasing her down. Everyone has to learn to do it on their own. And then there are the arm chair critics who will say I paid too much, others will say I exploited the girl etc etc. I do selectively share info by PM with members who I think are decent humans.

    I used to think that whatever I post here cannot affect the scene here but its getting to the point that I am actually afraid of spoiling it. So sorry but reports will remain deliberately a bit vague.

  10. #18599
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    Staying at the Movenpick. Nice hotel, better location than HI with a lot of food options etc. Strolled over to Emporium for a nice all inclusive session with 20 yo with the most perfect body and angelic face. Nothing was off the table but expectations for tip were large. I didn't care. I have realized at this age I can only fuck a couple of times a day so going high end. If anyone is around drop me a PM and we can meet up.
    Some more details would be welcome EA. Including tips offered/asked for and services.

    Hoping to visit again in December myself (one week or so in Jakarta, before continuing to Thailand for three more weeks), but if not I would have taken you up on the offer to meet.

    Stayed at redtop my last time (was also my first time), and it was great, but based on recent reviews here I'm thinking about booking Movenpick instead. My favourite mass produced ice cream it's too. :-)

  11. #18598
    Hey everyone,

    I'm planning on spending a 3-4 nights in Jakarta for the first time. It sounds like most of the action is at Classic and Emporivm, but people don't recommend actually staying at these places for their hotel. It seems like the price is right and it would be convenient, so I'm just curious why not. Too loud, too dirty?

    Also, for people staying in other hotels, do girls at Classic or Emporivm leave the place and come back to your hotel (like bargirls in Thailand)? Or do they use rooms onsite?

    Thanks in advance, I will make sure to write a report when my trip is over.

  12. #18597
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    Staying at the Movenpick. Nice hotel, better location than HI with a lot of food options etc. Strolled over to Emporium for a nice all inclusive session with 20 yo with the most perfect body and angelic face. Nothing was off the table but expectations for tip were large. I didn't care. I have realized at this age I can only fuck a couple of times a day so going high end. If anyone is around drop me a PM and we can meet up.
    Hey I'm in Jakarta now, I'm from the UK would be happy to meet up, my memebership doesn't allow me to message, but if you tell me a time and place, happy to grab drinks and share knowledge!

  13. #18596
    I've hardly come across positive reviews for this place and based on my personal experience I strongly advise visiting against Travel. Location is not a problem, my issue is with service. I checked up personally with a few girls and they said no to DFK and BBBJ. Asked mama's to convince the girls for the same and mama's turned around and said this is a no zone. Ordered grab bike and on to classic with no regrets.

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    I'm going to add one thing to this discussion. One place I don't think is getting enough recognition from the new guys is Travel, based on reviews anyways. Now personally Travel has fallen down my list but I know experienced guys who still really like Travel and get great service from the girls there. There are a lot of girls at Travel so it certainly should be on the list of any newbie. Don't let negative feedback from someone like me dissuade you from visiting Travel. It's only 5-10 minutes taxi from both Classic and KI.

  14. #18595
    Quote Originally Posted by JuneFly  [View Original Post]
    New Royal Bar address.

    https://g.co/kgs/sdydQr6

    Jl. Pangeran Jayakarta No. 45, RT. 1/ RW. 6, Mangga Dua Sel. , Kecamatan Sawah Besar, Kota Jakarta Pusat.
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    There is New Royal Bar nearby on Jalan Pangeran Jayakarta.
    Are you guys just doing a Google Maps search and posting like you know something or have either of you or anybody on this site been there? I went there 4 months ago at 7:00 pm but could not find it. So please give exact directions on where it is. So I am standing in the street in front of Indomaret facing north with the metro to my left. Tell me where the entrance is. I will verify quickly.

  15. #18594
    Can you share the Telegram links?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thommy84  [View Original Post]
    Hi all,

    I must admit that the responses to Medellin's post on average seem very harsh to me. He did make a good point that places reported on are quite limited considering the multitude of available options in Jakarta. As correctly stated by BB there are hundreds of places that offer services we like).

    In my view:

    Classic / Travel / KI offer a lot of convenience since reasonably close (major benefit in Jakarta!) and a large selection of girls at low cost. Even local boards / telegram groups often refer to Classic as "Legend Place".

    Emporium (&1001) - which I have not been to yet. Are very close nearby and offer a different type of experience with more "pampering" as part of the package. This is closer to the scene that Medellin is referencing, however the upper end in terms of quality / facilities which comes at a cost (naturally). Again, as pointed out by many: distance / vicinity is a major benefit.

    So I would say it is absolutely natural that these places get most of the attention, particularly in recent posts.

    Having said that:

    I have commented before on the SPA scene outside of Emporium and 1001 and subjectively do believe that it is going a bit too much under the radar. It is more geared towards residents / locals (incl. 99% of communication etc. Being only available in Bahasa), however I can confirm that there is a very active local telegram community where patrons as well as GROs (Guest Relation Officers) and Managers / Papasans / Mamasans share information including fotos, availability, recommendations for certain services (those mainly would be 1 to 1, less so in the public groups. Some also issue Field Reports in sub-sections of their telegram groups. Next to Spas these also e. G. Cover places like Mega Ayu / Royal VIP in KI (even Classic, however they don't bother issuing roster / pictures etc, no need for them). Locals regularly pre-book their favourites in these locations via telegram with GRO / Mamasan.

    For me personally (attention: subjective view): this scene is simply more tricky to navigate and takes more time getting used to. For me, by now the share of times I visit the SPAs vs. Classic / Travel / CJs / BATS has increased significantly, since I usually visit on my own and personally believe that Classic etc. Are more fun with a wingman (since I am a rather quiet person myself) whereas in the SPA scene I enjoy relaxing in hot / cold pool, 1-2 sauna rounds as well as being "pampered" with a decent massage leading into more fun.

    But that is simply a subjective personal preference, what is great in Jakarta is that you have these different options.

    Long story short:

    As I started with, I think in the core Medellin wasn't wrong, the. Recent. Reports offer limited range, however the locations are easy, convenient and suitable for visitors whereas a lot of other options are more complicated to navigate, hence in my view take more time getting used to and are more suitable for residents, so to me it makes perfect sense that the majority of reports focus on Classic / KI and Emporium as flavor of the day with the benefit of being just next door to Classic.

    Looking forward to spending some time in good old Jakarta soon!

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