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  1. #57862

    Most mamasans are worthless. Some are pure gold. Only one way to find out; Ask.

    Quote Originally Posted by NewImage  [View Original Post]
    I read somewhere that slipping 200 baht under the table would get you a girl to sit with you for a while, of course you will need to buy drinks. To me, this seems too cheap but please correct me if I'm wrong. I think you need to keep it in perspective, so outside you can get a FL for 1500/2000 -that would be FS fun for possibly an hour. So you are going to give her 1900 baht for 3 hrs of playing- I'd say 1000 at the most. The thing is depends where you want this to go. If a one off, 500 plus drinks might be enough, if maybe you want to repeat then 1000 might make a better impression.

    Another way to look at is will 15 or 30 US break your bank, if you meet some nice girl and you have chemistry why not show your appreciation and promote this sort of interaction.

    Back in the day I always worked on the basis that you do things for me then I reward you. I think we need to get the idea about performance pay across to the girls.

    Back in the day I wouldn't take a girl unless they DFK me and let me have a little respectful feel. Esp the DFK this crosses a line and points to possible future performance. If they did genuinely DFK me 1 lady drink would certainly follow. I used DFK as my deal breaker.

    I never tip waitresses or mamasans or hangers on. Some say tipping mamasans gives you better intel but me thinks not.
    Some of the best, smoothest, fastest, easiest and most cost-effective no hassle Real Sex / DFK, BBBJ + BBFSCIP results I have ever gotten with solid 2nd tier (7+ lookers) gogo girls in Bangkok have come about because I introduced myself, laid a simple 200 baht tip or Lady Drink on the mamasan and flat out told her those exact requirements were what I was looking for tonight.

    She would then make the rounds to her favorites until one (or more) says yes and brings her to me. Then it is totally up to me to agree based on looks and immediate chemistry or not. No penalty for me not agreeing. The mamasan will bring me another.

    As you can imagine, this can cut down on tons of wasted Lady Drinks in a series of bar hops, time, money, guesswork and "Yes in the bar, No in the room" scams.

    No, it isn't perfect and yes, maybe you need to sweeten the deal with both a Lady Drink and a 200 baht tip for the mamasan. It doesn't matter, ask the mamasan anyway. There is no harm in asking. And you must be specific. If you want no hassle BBFSCIP and not just BBFS and a pull out, tell the mamasan so and then only slip her that tip after she brings you a proper girl and repeats in Thai and English what you want to get a fair and clear yes or no from the girl.

    Just handing the mamasan a tip with no soecific request attached to it is nice but accomplishes nothing unless you are happy with nothing specific being provided in your room, as some punters apparently are.

  2. #57861
    Quote Originally Posted by EverythingThai  [View Original Post]
    Just got back home from a wild night. I will go into more details and explain how this place works. When you walk in to the entrance in the corner by 7/11, you will see a huge room with a long stage that goes from one end to the other. The first lot of girls sit at the far end in some booths, about 50 or so, while others sit with customers and dance on stage, some topless at times. All around the outside there are Karaoke VIP rooms. Then there is a small hallway leading to another area of Karaoke rooms, which is on the way to the bathrooms. It is in this area where there is a long bench against the walls that wraps around the corridor and goes along the back hallway all the way to the bathrooms. It is on this long bench where all the other girls sit waiting to be either chosen as guys walk by or be brought out in huge groups to show the guys sitting down in the booths or in the karaoke rooms. There are literally 150 girls in this back area alone, plus around 50 or so girls sitting in the booths and maybe another 20 or so already with customers. if you walk and and sit down, you would not know they were even there until you walked to the bathrooms. Most foreigners go there for the first time and walk in and out as they don't think there are any girls. They are sadly mistaken.

    After choosing my girl, we sat down and drank beer. Large bottles of Heineken, ate fries, mango, and chicken fried rice. The girl sat with me for 3 hours. Then after I took her to the ST hotel across the road.

    Now, the pricing. All the food, about 5-6 large Heinekens, and the cost of the girl to sit with me was in total, 1900 baht. There are no lady drinks in this place. Just a small sitting fee of about 200 Baht per hour, maybe a little less. The lady drinks and eats whatever you order.

    Then comes the cost of the girl to take out to the hotel. It's very easy to figure here. It's 2500 baht including the hotel. My girl's name was Kao. She is 22 years old with no baby and nice c cups. We showered together and then onto the bed. Lot's of steamy sex in all positions and a nice CIP finish.

    Total cost was 4400 baht. However, this place is so fun and cheap, I tipped a bunch of the staff plus the girl was given a healthy tip for her bedroom activities being pretty much the same as a GF. BBFSCIP.

    I did see one other western dude in there, but he didn't last long, plus about 30 or so Chinese guys and the rest were Thai. You will need to speak some Thai in this place to make things much easier, so I would suggest going with a Thai friend if you can't speak Thai.

    So, just to summarize, the cost was 4400 Baht not including the tips I gave to the staff and my girl. Therefore, it was closer to about 10K all in. You don't need to be the same as me though. A comparable night in go go plus the ST with the lady would most likely be much higher. I compare this to a go go because that's what it really is.
    Nice little piece of info. Thanks EverythingThai.

  3. #57860
    Great review.

    I went there a few weeks ago but I guess it was too early. I'm just curious, as I heard most of them don't speak English, wouldn't you feel a bit bored spending 3 hours with them? Or there would be cheeky stuff going on like the DFK etc throughout? I know if I'm at a gogo place I would probably not last a longtime chatting with the girls for more than 10 minutes. How about if I'm more of a person who likes to browse, chat to a few girls, may not partake then leave? Then would the sitting fee kinda reset 200 for a new girl?

  4. #57859

    Fair and reasonable compensation?

    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for your excellent review, eThai. Just a couple of questions.

    There are some nights when I either have something lined up later in the night or just don't feel like taking a girl at the end of the night. Would a girl there get upset if I didn't take her home after spending 3 hours with me? If I spent 3 hours with a girl in a bar I would likely tip her 500-1000 baht. Would this be considered too little? Agree 1900 baht for 3 hours of play time is cheap.

    You mentioned that the 2500 baht includes a room are these girls open to going back to your hotel (Sukhumvit area) as well?

    I rarely tip waitresses much more than a nominal amount unless they're hot and I get play time (DFK, groping) with them. Are waitresses there pushy for tips? Is there any real advantage of tipping a waitress a lot there? I see no advantage in tipping or buying drinks for mamasans or non playful waitresses in gogo bars.

    I'm clearly not as 'Jai Dee' as you are cause 5600 in tips alone would never happen with me even if I had the absolute best night of my life. I'd rather just save that and see the girl again the following night.

    I see you gave a live update at 10 pm. What time do most of the girls arrive? I usually like to start my night at 8 pm. Too early for T-Ded?
    I read somewhere that slipping 200 baht under the table would get you a girl to sit with you for a while, of course you will need to buy drinks. To me, this seems too cheap but please correct me if I'm wrong. I think you need to keep it in perspective, so outside you can get a FL for 1500/2000 -that would be FS fun for possibly an hour. So you are going to give her 1900 baht for 3 hrs of playing- I'd say 1000 at the most. The thing is depends where you want this to go. If a one off, 500 plus drinks might be enough, if maybe you want to repeat then 1000 might make a better impression.

    Another way to look at is will 15 or 30 US break your bank, if you meet some nice girl and you have chemistry why not show your appreciation and promote this sort of interaction.

    Back in the day I always worked on the basis that you do things for me then I reward you. I think we need to get the idea about performance pay across to the girls.

    Back in the day I wouldn't take a girl unless they DFK me and let me have a little respectful feel. Esp the DFK this crosses a line and points to possible future performance. If they did genuinely DFK me 1 lady drink would certainly follow. I used DFK as my deal breaker.

    I never tip waitresses or mamasans or hangers on. Some say tipping mamasans gives you better intel but me thinks not.

  5. #57858
    Thanks for your excellent review, eThai. Just a couple of questions.

    There are some nights when I either have something lined up later in the night or just don't feel like taking a girl at the end of the night. Would a girl there get upset if I didn't take her home after spending 3 hours with me? If I spent 3 hours with a girl in a bar I would likely tip her 500-1000 baht. Would this be considered too little? Agree 1900 baht for 3 hours of play time is cheap.

    You mentioned that the 2500 baht includes a room are these girls open to going back to your hotel (Sukhumvit area) as well?

    I rarely tip waitresses much more than a nominal amount unless they're hot and I get play time (DFK, groping) with them. Are waitresses there pushy for tips? Is there any real advantage of tipping a waitress a lot there? I see no advantage in tipping or buying drinks for mamasans or non playful waitresses in gogo bars.

    I'm clearly not as 'Jai Dee' as you are cause 5600 in tips alone would never happen with me even if I had the absolute best night of my life. I'd rather just save that and see the girl again the following night.

    I see you gave a live update at 10 pm. What time do most of the girls arrive? I usually like to start my night at 8 pm. Too early for T-Ded?

  6. #57857

    T-Ded 99

    Just got back home from a wild night. I will go into more details and explain how this place works. When you walk in to the entrance in the corner by 7/11, you will see a huge room with a long stage that goes from one end to the other. The first lot of girls sit at the far end in some booths, about 50 or so, while others sit with customers and dance on stage, some topless at times. All around the outside there are Karaoke VIP rooms. Then there is a small hallway leading to another area of Karaoke rooms, which is on the way to the bathrooms. It is in this area where there is a long bench against the walls that wraps around the corridor and goes along the back hallway all the way to the bathrooms. It is on this long bench where all the other girls sit waiting to be either chosen as guys walk by or be brought out in huge groups to show the guys sitting down in the booths or in the karaoke rooms. There are literally 150 girls in this back area alone, plus around 50 or so girls sitting in the booths and maybe another 20 or so already with customers. if you walk and and sit down, you would not know they were even there until you walked to the bathrooms. Most foreigners go there for the first time and walk in and out as they don't think there are any girls. They are sadly mistaken.

    After choosing my girl, we sat down and drank beer. Large bottles of Heineken, ate fries, mango, and chicken fried rice. The girl sat with me for 3 hours. Then after I took her to the ST hotel across the road.

    Now, the pricing. All the food, about 5-6 large Heinekens, and the cost of the girl to sit with me was in total, 1900 baht. There are no lady drinks in this place. Just a small sitting fee of about 200 Baht per hour, maybe a little less. The lady drinks and eats whatever you order.

    Then comes the cost of the girl to take out to the hotel. It's very easy to figure here. It's 2500 baht including the hotel. My girl's name was Kao. She is 22 years old with no baby and nice c cups. We showered together and then onto the bed. Lot's of steamy sex in all positions and a nice CIP finish.

    Total cost was 4400 baht. However, this place is so fun and cheap, I tipped a bunch of the staff plus the girl was given a healthy tip for her bedroom activities being pretty much the same as a GF. BBFSCIP.

    I did see one other western dude in there, but he didn't last long, plus about 30 or so Chinese guys and the rest were Thai. You will need to speak some Thai in this place to make things much easier, so I would suggest going with a Thai friend if you can't speak Thai.

    So, just to summarize, the cost was 4400 Baht not including the tips I gave to the staff and my girl. Therefore, it was closer to about 10K all in. You don't need to be the same as me though. A comparable night in go go plus the ST with the lady would most likely be much higher. I compare this to a go go because that's what it really is.

  7. #57856

    Live report T-Ded 99

    There is literally 300 girls here now and about 50 customers at 10 PM. It's a pussy circus.

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  11. #57852
    Quote Originally Posted by Llantarnam  [View Original Post]
    Slightly off topic, but does anyone know where I can get a reliable hair cut near Soi 11? By reliable I mean by somebody who understands the basic concept of a light trim. I don't wan't to look like somebody who has just come out of a Hare Krishna temple.
    What kind of haircut are you looking for? If a fade or anything with clippers I wouldn't recommend but if you're looking for an old style regular haircut (TRIM) I recommend miss Pea, Small shop between 11 and 13 walk through by the 7/11 on Soi 11.200 baht plus tip if you're so inclined.

  12. #57851
    Quote Originally Posted by Werqweq  [View Original Post]
    LOL. You are indeed a cautious man. I normally have a friend waiting outside, telling him if I'm not back in 10 minutes (3 minutes to shower, 3 minutes to bang, 3 minutes for post-bang shower), to break down the door.

    If he has a bunch of his ladyboy friends waiting inside with him, you're pretty much fucked however (pun intended), but it will be less painful if you do not resist.
    It was still slightly reckless I admit. But they posted stories of themself in a swimsuit earlier that day and it all kinda looked OK.

    On decent haircuts, there's one in Thonglor near the Mango takeaway shop that is decent. And amazingly cheap at 140. It's popular so you always need to wait minimum 10-15 but well worth it.

  13. #57850
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo  [View Original Post]
    Hardened escorts in Thailand and Vietnam follow a quick routine down cold:

    Insist on upfront payment.

    Suck the men's nipples to get them aroused.

    Hop on top to do a cow girl (or reverse cow girl if the guy is old and ugly).

    Roll over in missionary to get the guy to pop quickly.

    Wipe their pussies and quickly exit.
    Soujnds like hookers everywhere.

  14. #57849

    Soi 8

    Quote Originally Posted by Llantarnam  [View Original Post]
    Slightly off topic, but does anyone know where I can get a reliable hair cut near Soi 11? By reliable I mean by somebody who understands the basic concept of a light trim. I don't wan't to look like somebody who has just come out of a Hare Krishna temple.
    Go down soi 8 take right at Lolita's street (BJ bar) past it on left in little walk way, right there! Excellent for what you're looking for, I've been using her for years, and when done I go for a BJ!! LOL BJ and a hair cut for around 20 $ , can't even get a hair for that in Miami nevertheless a hair cut and a BJ!!LOL hope this helps!

  15. #57848
    Then walk down Sukhumvit the other direction, you'll pass several before you hit Asoke. Whether they meet your requirement or not is up to trial and error. Truefit & Hill will.

    Quote Originally Posted by Llantarnam  [View Original Post]
    Hair cut more expensive than a blow job? What's the world coming to.

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