Sao Paulo Reports

[Reeme]

I am a little surprised by your take on Scandallo. I have never met anyone who has been to both FKK AND Scandallo and not preferred Scandallo. I don't know if you hit an off night or are just not a Latina fan because there are smoking hot ladies there. I have never seen an FKK girl above an 8. 5 to my taste. But to each his own.

I look at FKK vs Scandallo like brunettes vs blonds. Sure you may prefer one of the other but both are awesome!

To be fair tho they are quite different experiences. Pure men's club relaxation with sauna buffet and sex. Well you can't get that at Scandallo. Super luxe nightclub atmosphere for high rollers well you can't get that at any FKK in the world. Every man should do both.

That said I will note the VERY different attitude.

What's your name where you from we go room now? Vs an half hour of hanging out and kissing and dancing?

Oh. You want to kiss? That is extra. (Non passionate kissing to follow)? Vs Brazilians best kissers in the world and consider it part of sex.

I don't know anyone who says that this part of the experience is better in FKK. But I guess main point remains dont pick. Do both!

I agree, they are very different and both are experiences in their own right.

I would not say that I prefer FKK. Exactly for the reason you mentioned. Brazilian passion and fun.

Artemis was great the one single time I went in terms of beauty.

There were several fashion model / playmate level chicks there.

Still, I ended up choosing a slightly less breathtaking and for my taste overtattooed (but still very hot) Turkish-German as she was all fun and game, very different from the primarily "Rombulga" (Romanian / Bulgarian) ice princess crowd.

Of course, an absolutely flawless stunner appeared the moment I had to leave.

At my one night in Scandy, the sheer quantity of girls was outrageous, and their fun attitude outstanding.

Still, there were few that I found really pretty and hot at the same time.

That is the combination I'm looking for and that warrants payment.

If you speak the language, are reasonably ok looking and know the game works, you can always get hot for free with a bit of effort and it'll feel more like a true conquest.

I simply thought there would be more of the "OMG" category.

To me, if I pay, I want (near) perfect.

Hard to get at FKK as GFE is missing.

And hard to get at Scandy that night as few girls managed to wow me.

Two did, one never smiled so she was out. The one I chose was great minus the scarred tits.

Based on the reports I had heard and read, I had just expected more mindblowing beauty.

But maybe the cab driver was right and most in this category are either on OF or in the Middle East or other, better paying parts of the world.

Still, I would repeat both. I'll report when I do.

[The Cane]

Scandallo is the best place in the world, but a top FKK might be second. Both are absolute must sees.

This is exactly how I see it.

[Combo]

I am a little surprised by your take on Scandallo. I have never met anyone who has been to both FKK AND Scandallo and not preferred Scandallo. I don't know if you hit an off night or are just not a Latina fan because there are smoking hot ladies there. I have never seen an FKK girl above an 8. 5 to my taste. But to each his own.

I look at FKK vs Scandallo like brunettes vs blonds. Sure you may prefer one of the other but both are awesome
What's your name where you from we go room now? Vs an half hour of hanging out and kissing and dancing?

Oh. You want to kiss? That is extra. (Non passionate kissing to follow)? Vs Brazilians best kissers in the world and consider it part of sex.

I don't know anyone who says that this part of the experience is better in FKK. But I guess main point remains dont pick. Do both!

Scandallo is the best place in the world, but a top FKK might be second. Both are absolute must sees.

[HiddenEye]

November because of different auto / racing events, hundreds of girls come to SP to work at events, and of course you can always talk.

Only the ones who do after hours and don't have good contacts, can fall into night clubs.

[Steve 9696]

Agreed. Artemis is also topless. Main advantage to me is that you can make sure to avoid the butchered boobs I had to uncover at Scandy.

I am a little surprised by your take on Scandallo. I have never met anyone who has been to both FKK AND Scandallo and not preferred Scandallo. I don't know if you hit an off night or are just not a Latina fan because there are smoking hot ladies there. I have never seen an FKK girl above an 8. 5 to my taste. But to each his own.

I look at FKK vs Scandallo like brunettes vs blonds. Sure you may prefer one of the other but both are awesome!

To be fair tho they are quite different experiences. Pure men's club relaxation with sauna buffet and sex. Well you can't get that at Scandallo. Super luxe nightclub atmosphere for high rollers well you can't get that at any FKK in the world. Every man should do both.

That said I will note the VERY different attitude.

What's your name where you from we go room now? Vs an half hour of hanging out and kissing and dancing?

Oh. You want to kiss? That is extra. (Non passionate kissing to follow)? Vs Brazilians best kissers in the world and consider it part of sex.

I don't know anyone who says that this part of the experience is better in FKK. But I guess main point remains — don’t pick. Do both!

[DrPistol]

Any regular massage places with cute girls where it's debatable whether there will be extras? Essentially an establishment which is posing as legit but I might get a happy ending?

I found a few of these in medellin and cartagena and I seem to enjoy them more than the FS places. Masseuses are trained and give full massage, but they might be giving out tugs on the downlow.

[Evan1]

Hey guys. I'm about to go to Brazil. My doctor advised me to pay attention to dengue fever. I've heard that the outbreak in Brazil is very serious. Does anyone know about the situation?

[Tochka]

Burner phones too are the way to not leave a data trail if you are really motivated.

I am sure we can write a treatise on this subject with the experts on this board. Something to put in the bubba boy guide update.

I have had hard enough time trying to remember the Clinica names on the credit charges when it shows up.

This is how the boates, clinicas and centro massage joints show up on my credit card King Tavern, Matrix / Matrix Hqs, Novo espao Morumbi.

Serv Center, mnc cosmticos, Estdio servio. infoshopping

W estdio, Amanda Silva Gama. Well that is how different spots talked about here show up on my card figuring out which place is half the fun. NOT kkkk.

[Reeme]

One huge advantage of the FKKs over any other venue world wide is the total nudity (at least the ones I've been to, which doesn't include Artemis). Just a mind-blowing thing seeing 50-100 hot-looking women walking around completely nude (other than high heels).

Agreed. Artemis is also topless. Main advantage to me is that you can make sure to avoid the butchered boobs I had to uncover at Scandy.

[Budget1]

Does anyone know if Building 134 (Edifício Itatiaia) is really closed? I was a great place for a cheap session when I was last in Sao Paulo, but looking it up on Google Maps, it says permanently closed (I am surprised google maps would collect information about such an establishment). I am familiar with building 69, but if Building 134 is really closed, does anyone know if they relocated, or if there is something similar in Sao Paulo. A lot of garotes hung out in 134, I would think they would find another similar place. Thanks for any information you can provide.

[Combo]

Not quite true. Artemis, arguably Germany's top FKK, is 90 to get in and 1 h will set you back 150.

Even better, you can choose to do 30 min for about 80, which is not an option at Scandy.

So you can have fun for under 200 USD, compared to 350 USD at Scandy (a bit less if you come very early).

Scandy has a lot more choice and girls are a lot friendlier on average.

Artemis had substantially more stunners. Really pretty, fashion model type Eastern European chicks.

Granted, I only went to both places once so Artemis might have been particularly good and Scandy rather slow (as per the cab driver).

Both are great places. At both places, it makes sense to spend time scoping the scene before making a decision.

In the FKKs, it might be harder to find fun chicks that provide something akin to GFE while that is easy in Brazil.

One huge advantage of the FKKs over any other venue world wide is the total nudity (at least the ones I've been to, which doesn't include Artemis). Just a mind-blowing thing seeing 50-100 hot-looking women walking around completely nude (other than high heels).

[Reeme]

The cost at FKK seems to be about equal to Scandallo so, with better service, Scandallo appears to be the better option.

Not quite true. Artemis, arguably Germany's top FKK, is 90 to get in and 1 h will set you back 150.

Even better, you can choose to do 30 min for about 80, which is not an option at Scandy.

So you can have fun for under 200 USD, compared to 350 USD at Scandy (a bit less if you come very early).

Scandy has a lot more choice and girls are a lot friendlier on average.

Artemis had substantially more stunners. Really pretty, fashion model type Eastern European chicks.

Granted, I only went to both places once so Artemis might have been particularly good and Scandy rather slow (as per the cab driver).

Both are great places. At both places, it makes sense to spend time scoping the scene before making a decision.

In the FKKs, it might be harder to find fun chicks that provide something akin to GFE while that is easy in Brazil.

[Combo]

The key to successfully negotiating price is to be willing to walk away, which is easy when you don't find the girls to be stunning / to your taste. I paid 800/900 mid August. The girls at Scandallo can be found in Europe, but like you said, they're friendlier than the average FKK girl.

This is something every experienced hobbyist learns over time. I can see a new guy not getting this and being intimidated to try it, but one shouldn't be.

With the quality and quantity at Scandallo, tell her what you're willing to pay, and if she declines, go to the next one.

[Vagabundo1]

Burner phones too are the way to not leave a data trail if you are really motivated.

I am sure we can write a treatise on this subject with the experts on this board. Something to put in the bubba boy guide update.

This is not the first time you lost your phone. I think you really should consider a cheap iphone burner because you are careless sometimes. There are organization that can hack your iPhone and drain your accounts so a burner will give you a peace of mind.

I have 3 iphones with 3 US numbers from 3 different carriers but it is mainly because I don't return to US.

[Turgid]

The key to successfully negotiating price is to be willing to walk away, which is easy when you don't find the girls to be stunning / to your taste. I paid 800/900 mid August. The girls at Scandallo can be found in Europe, but like you said, they're friendlier than the average FKK girl.

The cost at FKK seems to be about equal to Scandallo so, with better service, Scandallo appears to be the better option.