Sao Paulo Reports

**Turgid** · 10-06-24 16:13

Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]

...... I always said keep your expectation low......

When the price is high my expectations are high.

**Nounce** · 10-06-24 05:40

There are still two girl clubs in BA. The street scene in downtown is dead. I visited often enough that I found a street scene that has not been reported on the AP site. The best quality sex is from the freelancer in the club. The service is limited in all other venues that I have tried. One time I just walked out of a date in Recoleta because the service was very restrictive despite the nice apartment and the girl was attractive.

You are way too late on almost every front.

**HiddenEye** · 10-06-24 04:01

My personal experience is based on 2019 before pandemics, but I know from friends they are still valid. The same friend who recorded this night driving tour in downton BA I have on Youtube. I can share the URL with those interested.

Buenos Aires is a city free of night clubs with working girls. The latest ones in Recoleta are already closed. There are of course bars where you can meet civilians in Palermo area and Puerto Madero.

I haven't experienced tango scene because my friends said "that's a gringo thing" so I can't tell if you can find talent in there. Like Mr. Duvall in Assasanation Tango.

What I do know is argies are flooding OnlyFans and other content sites. There are telegram groups where this talent post material, and yes, some of them, after purchasing their content, very expensive content will finally agree for a meeting.

For example, the girl attached in mosaic sells videos starting at US $30. She's a hot brunette and does meet her VIP fans. She goes with a male friend to the first meeting to check and that doesn't assure you'll take her to a motel. So their online material is some kind of a expensive filter. Yes, it takes looooong time to validate one of these.

The ones who are really making profit are these girls. There are true beauties making crazy custom videos.

Originally Posted by RamDavidson84 [View Original Post]

Thinking of doing an end of year trip to Buenos Aires. Anyone have any experience there? How does it compare to a city like Sao Paulo? Medellin? My big reasons for choosing BA over SP is I speak broken Spanish to a degree so I can communicate for all the things I need. I speak no Portuguese at all. It doesn't seem like BA will be significantly more expensive and I don't want to be in a monger destination like SP. I want to trail blaze for a change. I am also gambling that with the recent inflation in Argentina and lack of sex tourists, I may have found a city which is on the rise for our hobby, am I wrong with this gamble? The BA thread is basically dead, so I am posting this here. Flight prices are very high for the end of the year. I am figuring a round trip out of Northeast USA at a decent time of day is going to run me close to 2 k. It looks like my best bet is to get to Miami or Orlando the night before and then fly out of there in the morning to BA or maybe SP if you guys think a BA is a waste of time. My biggest concern is the girls are not going to give the unrivaled service of Brazil, so Like I said if anyone has any experience and can share their 2 cents, I would appreciate it and I ll be sure to report the data from my findings upon my return.

I just watched Assassination Tango and it peaked my interest.

**Knowledge** · 10-06-24 01:12

You will likely get a more robust response to these questions in the Buenos Aires forum.

Originally Posted by RamDavidson84 [View Original Post]

Thinking of doing an end of year trip to Buenos Aires. Anyone have any experience there? How does it compare to a city like Sao Paulo? Medellin? My big reasons for choosing BA over SP is I speak broken Spanish to a degree so I can communicate for all the things I need. I speak no Portuguese at all. It doesn't seem like BA will be significantly more expensive and I don't want to be in a monger destination like SP. I want to trail blaze for a change. I am also gambling that with the recent inflation in Argentina and lack of sex tourists, I may have found a city which is on the rise for our hobby, am I wrong with this gamble? The BA thread is basically dead, so I am posting this here. Flight prices are very high for the end of the year. I am figuring a round trip out of Northeast USA at a decent time of day is going to run me close to 2 k. It looks like my best bet is to get to Miami or Orlando the night before and then fly out of there in the morning to BA or maybe SP if you guys think a BA is a waste of time. My biggest concern is the girls are not going to give the unrivaled service of Brazil, so Like I said if anyone has any experience and can share their 2 cents, I would appreciate it and I ll be sure to report the data from my findings upon my return.

I just watched Assassination Tango and it peaked my interest.

**WyattEarp** · 10-05-24 16:07

Originally Posted by JZeleznik [View Original Post]

IMO that is a contributing factor, but not the actual reason. Lots of girls tour, but its a temporary thing for most of them. They'll hit up Dubai, London, and maybe somewhere in Asia, but they use it more as a working vacation. Plenty of girls do OF and the Brazilian equivalent Privacy, but the vast majority do it in addition to working at the clubs. It supplements their income and allows them to work less, but most don't earn enough to replace it.

The real issue as far as I can tell is two things. First, Scandallo has a very demanding schedule, and a lot of the girls just can't keep up with it. If they miss a day they owe a fine, and once that happens they run the risk of going in and losing money. The absolute knockouts didn't really care before, they'd work when they want and just consider the fine the cost of doing business, but that brings me to the second problem. I don't know how long it has been going on for, but it seems like there is a lot less money out there lately in Sao Paulo.

Last year when I was here I'd have to wait in lines. Short ones at Scandallo, and long ones at Casarao. That is not happening to me anymore, and while I see lots of guys out drinking and talking, it does not seem like many of them are taking girls to a room. If the girls can't guarantee a payday, they stop showing up at all.

Do you think the top girls are escorting? This has been a successful path for many mongers here, but it requires a lot of research, translation and patience. It's not at all as simple as thumbing through webpages and pointing your finger at hot photos. Of course, some have tried this method with mixed results.

Now we don't know exactly how many top girls that might drop in at Scandallo actually have regular local clients they see but will never advertise on-line. Obviously, there are a lot. And we would never find them unless we were lucky to be at Scandallo when they dropped in.

Logically if the economy sucks, the girls have to be out there somewhere. This is where venues like the old Help Disco that catered mostly to foreigners were a match made in heaven for mongers and Brazilian girls looking for steady income during local economic slowdowns.

**Nounce** · 10-05-24 13:44

Originally Posted by Reeme [View Original Post]

Based on the reports I had heard and read, I had just expected more mindblowing beauty

This is true even a few years ago. I always said keep your expectation low. It's YMMV and there are more factors than the girl quality involved. Your observation is not wrong.

I have two girls showed my their breast in front of the coach next to the elevator. One pulled up her skirt to show me her bunda. You can pretty much do anything except having sex naked before going to the room.

**RamDavidson84** · 10-05-24 06:09

Thinking of doing an end of year trip to Buenos Aires. Anyone have any experience there? How does it compare to a city like Sao Paulo? Medellin? My big reasons for choosing BA over SP is I speak broken Spanish to a degree so I can communicate for all the things I need. I speak no Portuguese at all. It doesn't seem like BA will be significantly more expensive and I don't want to be in a monger destination like SP. I want to trail blaze for a change. I am also gambling that with the recent inflation in Argentina and lack of sex tourists, I may have found a city which is on the rise for our hobby, am I wrong with this gamble? The BA thread is basically dead, so I am posting this here. Flight prices are very high for the end of the year. I am figuring a round trip out of Northeast USA at a decent time of day is going to run me close to 2 k. It looks like my best bet is to get to Miami or Orlando the night before and then fly out of there in the morning to BA or maybe SP if you guys think a BA is a waste of time. My biggest concern is the girls are not going to give the unrivaled service of Brazil, so Like I said if anyone has any experience and can share their 2 cents, I would appreciate it and I ll be sure to report the data from my findings upon my return.

I just watched Assassination Tango and it peaked my interest.

**Glenn Swagmire** · 10-04-24 18:46

So I'll be touching down in Sao Paulo in just a few days, is Scandallo really that much better than Casarao?

Also where am I most likely to find a girl who looks like Brazilian Hatsune Miku?

**JZeleznik** · 10-04-24 01:22

Originally Posted by Reeme [View Original Post]

Based on the reports I had heard and read, I had just expected more mindblowing beauty.

But maybe the cab driver was right and most in this category are either on OF or in the Middle East or other, better paying parts of the world.

Still, I would repeat both. I'll report when I do.

IMO that is a contributing factor, but not the actual reason. Lots of girls tour, but its a temporary thing for most of them. They'll hit up Dubai, London, and maybe somewhere in Asia, but they use it more as a working vacation. Plenty of girls do OF and the Brazilian equivalent Privacy, but the vast majority do it in addition to working at the clubs. It supplements their income and allows them to work less, but most don't earn enough to replace it.

The real issue as far as I can tell is two things. First, Scandallo has a very demanding schedule, and a lot of the girls just can't keep up with it. If they miss a day they owe a fine, and once that happens they run the risk of going in and losing money. The absolute knockouts didn't really care before, they'd work when they want and just consider the fine the cost of doing business, but that brings me to the second problem. I don't know how long it has been going on for, but it seems like there is a lot less money out there lately in Sao Paulo.

Last year when I was here I'd have to wait in lines. Short ones at Scandallo, and long ones at Casarao. That is not happening to me anymore, and while I see lots of guys out drinking and talking, it does not seem like many of them are taking girls to a room. If the girls can't guarantee a payday, they stop showing up at all.

**Axel Heyst** · 10-03-24 15:42

Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]

I've never been to Scandallo but if I had to choose between the best FKK and Malio club I would have no hesitation in choosing Malio. The best club I've been to ever. The quality, quantity and variety is amazing. You can meet women from around the world there.

Yep, Malio is great. But you got to check out Scandallo if you have never been. It's great too and like I said, Scandallo girls are all FL's ie independent contractors so you can take them home with you if you want plus you can cut out the middleman on subsequent rendezvous. And I think I mentioned that Scandallo girls are Brazilian and pretty hot. KKK!

**Turgid** · 10-03-24 14:55

Originally Posted by AxelHeyst [View Original Post]

Comparing Scandallo to a top notch FKK or many other 1st class bordello type clubs is really like comparing mangos to mangosteens. They are very different venues and very different fruits respectively. But if you guys want to talk about the finest bordellos in the world based on selection quality of girls or service then I want to add Familia Nobre in Macau and Malio Club in Jakarta to the list......

I've never been to Scandallo but if I had to choose between the best FKK and Malio club I would have no hesitation in choosing Malio. The best club I've been to ever. The quality, quantity and variety is amazing. You can meet women from around the world there.

**Lalabo** · 10-03-24 03:46

Originally Posted by Reeme [View Original Post]

Went to Scandy for the first time last night (Friday).

Nice report, Reeme. I appreciate sharing your experience. I mostly agree with you about the quality of the girls, prices and service levels.

Originally Posted by Reeme [View Original Post]

- I had picked up one of only two garotas whose looks really wowed me. Her great personality and somewhat unique look made the difference, while the other chick never smiled when walking the club, did not even bother talking to her. Unfortunately, my choice had badly butchered fake tits with big scars. And way too hard on top. The rest of the body and face were great. Deteriorated the experience as I am a tits guy. Note to self to feel the garotas up more next time. Later I was approached by a fun and pretty Baiana called Bruna who had great naturals, might have been the better choice even though Leticia and I had good fun in the room.

Ouch! It is unfortunate you had to run into Leticia. There is no way to know what is hiding underneath the dress in these places. This is where German / European FK / Sauna clubs (I will refer to them as FKK from now on) have the advantage of you being able to see their body before interacting with them. It is a luck of the draw in fully cloths environments. Even Brad Pitt like guys wouldn't be able to see what underneath the dress. I met a very beautiful girl in Casarao more than a year ago. I don't like silicone, but she had good size tits, so I asked her if they were real, she said they are and asked me to fee them. I did and they felt real. I went to room for an hour for 400 reals. In the room, she insisted full payment, but I paid only half. She took her cloth off to reveal huge scars from her boob surgeries she had getting sillies and removing them. When I went for DATY it smelled like sewer down there. I decided to cut my loss and paid her the rest and go out. Unlike you the damage for me was just 400 reals, so not a big deal. You should have infomed the management so hopefully she wouldn't be allowed in the club. There is not fucking way anyone could see and smell what's hiding underneath womans body. No fucking interview lets you know what her pussy smells like. Are you going to ask the next girl if you can see her tits and smell her crotch in boetes? There is a limit the what you can ask and see during interview process. You rarely encounter these issues in FKKs because most of the girls are naked for you to see their body and I rarely met a girl with suspect hygiene down there during last 13+ year.

Originally Posted by Reeme [View Original Post]

- Overall I found it too expensive for what it is. Paid Leticia 1200 (first ask was 2 k, I countered with 1 k as per Axels reco). Helps to say that you only have 2 k in cash and do not want to use CC, as even the less intelligent girls get that 300 for the room and 500 entry limit your maximum to 1200. But spending 2 k, almost 400 USD, on a girl in Brazil that is not absolutely stunning, lingerie model type quality seems excessive. The winning strategy for me probably is to go early, pay 300 & eat there, and enjoy the club and fool around with a number of hot girls and get their numbers. Being a tall, blond Euro guy in the lower half of the age bracket usually helps to settle for much lower prices, plus they do not have to recover their entry fee.

I agree Scandallo prices very high and are getting out of control. I still think there is a 2-tier pricing structure for locals and tourists, but I am keeping an open mind to see if that isn't the case.

Originally Posted by Reeme [View Original Post]

- The cab driver said it was a rather slow night and Wed / Thu had a much broader and better lineup (as some folks mentioned here). Was not an option for me this time, but I will try to check it out another time. One thing he said that was a bit worrying is that lately, the super hot chicks started moving to Onlyfans or Dubai. This might explain their absence. I never got why guys pay for nude pics with abundant free porn available. OF and webcams certainly curtail babe supply. Did any of the veterans here make similar observations?

I saw lots of gorgeous girls when I visited pre-pandemic in 2019. I haven't seen such quality lineup in the Scancallo for the last 4 years, so I have to believe the Cab driver's theory for decline in quality.