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10-22-24 06:23 #13841Regular Member

Posts: 2I've only frequented a few shops here and the price on website was always tax-inclusive, including at THC. Amateur Tokyo was the only one where the final price I got was different, but still went ahead.
Won't name the girl, hasn't been reviewed here but I looked at their Japanese page (Shibuya Garden AFAIR) for reviews on the girls. I only talk of extras with the girl directly so hadn't taken CIM option while booking but she gave BBBJ anyway without asking. Sex is 10 k.
Their Japanese page also doesn't mention that prices are tax-exclusive (different prices though).
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10-21-24 18:53 #13840Senior Member

Posts: 1446AFAIK, every place in Tokyo charges the consumption tax.
Originally Posted by John557
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Who was the girl? What did she do? BBBJ or more?
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10-21-24 06:43 #13839Regular Member

Posts: 2AmateurTokyo
Booked a 2 h outcall from amateurtokyo.com few weeks ago, wanted to give a heads up which I haven't seen detailed yet on the forum. 10% tax is charged on the prices listed on the website, this is not the credit card surcharge, this is even for cash. But they removed the admission fee 2 k.
So for a Shinjuku 2 h outcall, it was 34 + 2 choice + 2 delivery plus 10% tax on all this, total 41.8 k.
Girl was nice, as expected.
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10-19-24 00:34 #13838Senior Member

Posts: 1446Here's another good find in Tokyo:
Japanese Girls Massage Bamboo Forest https://japanese-girls-massage.tokyo/system.
In room massage, and they are pretty quick and hassle free about setting it up. No need to show ID, have a Japanese phone number, or any of that annoying stuff that so many places require. Also foreign friendly and English speaking.
I was able to get a nice Japanese women in her 20's sent to my hotel in about 2 hours. She was English speaking. Tight clothes. Lots of flirting and joking around. She never got naked. Not that kind of place. But after a really good massage she flipped me over and worked a nice load out of me.
60 minutes was 20000 Yen, no delivery fee or tipping.
The website says "no sexual services" but I ended up getting a world class hand job with nuru lotion on my first try. Is this the norm? YMMV.
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10-18-24 20:00 #13837Senior Member

Posts: 1446Japan is a bit unusual in that pretty much everything is paid up front. On the other hand it's pretty rare to get ripped off in Japan. Never happened to me in 20 years of visiting.
Originally Posted by CCRider1008
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At a soapland you are going to get wash, nuru, BBBJ, FS (covered or uncovered). Differences between places are:
- Price.
- Cleanliness.
- Quality of girl.
- Quality of service.
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10-17-24 09:19 #13836Senior Member

Posts: 243Wonderful, thanks for confirming another place as foreigner friendly. That's the trend now with the exchange rate, economy, and with COVID restrictions fully lifted (Apr 29 2023). More places are paying attention to the inbound market. More places are also adding a foreigner tax, which we don't like, but at least identifies the place as opening its doors. The higher end places do have better girls on average, especially DH where you can pick a girl matching your type.
Originally Posted by RickRock
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I believe as this market share slowly grows, competition will moderate the tax. It seems to range from 5000 yen to 15000 yen in most places I've checked. Some small tax does makes sense for the added risk they take, and the labor to service non-Japanese speakers. Time will tell, I expect in 1-3 years more and more places will turn and drive down that tax to something reasonable.
This video was made for you.
Originally Posted by CCRider1008
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctDjnG8J9cY
Japan has had COVID restrictions since Apr 2020 to Apr 2023, and even after they were lifted tourism spots were not properly trained or staffed let alone all flights available. They have just barely recovered perhaps 1 year ago after being depressed for over 3 years. Business are still getting used to the idea of servicing inbound tourists again. The exchange rate has made Japan more attractive, and thereby soaplands more open but also greedy. There are now many options for you that have been posted that are foreigner friendly, some fully English friendly.
Originally Posted by CCRider1008
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From a friend, I will try out this one next year. It has a hefty foreigner tax of 15,000 but I don't care since it has a few girls I want to see.
https://gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html English page (it is a single page with everything summarized).
https://gingira.jp/system.html Japanese page explaining just the system. Scroll down and you'll see 2 ad videos showing you what you get. Wonderful.
https://www.img-bank.net/gingira/mov...n%E5%A4%A7.mp4 Link to one video with Nanase.
https://gingira.jp/profile/NANASE Nanase's profile.
The most important thing about Gingira is I know they use legit ads for the girls. Specifically, I know two of the girls actually look better than their ad. That's how it should be, people aren't going to be disappointed that way and will come back. Cannot say that of the majority of other shops I've tried (though in Japan it is usually close). And of course I can't vouch for any but those two but that's a good sign that it's 2 for 2. It will be many months before I visit, but I will have a report next year assuming it goes as planned.
Nanase graciously allowed the naughty ad to be filmed. I wanted to narrate some excerpts from the ad, as if I were the guy (humor me). First, notice how nice jgirls look with clothes on. Jgirls are famous for looking their best with clothes on, but it is a dice roll when the clothes come off. She and I exchange 'gyu' for hugs. I have a huge grin like a simp and tell her how much cuter she is than the ad, I'm so glad I paid money for sex with her. Really she asks. Really, yokatta. I forget I'm paying by the minute and focus on hugging her, so the scene has to skp forward. Now we are in the lotion bath, what beautiful white A cups she has. Many guys have turned at run at this, but I am all-in. I have to say they found the perfect actor here to represent the average guy coming. They want people watching this ad not to hesitate. It can be me they should think.
And so on. Damn, this ad really shows Nanase's good sides. If you don't mind A cups, book her before I do. There are dozens of soaplands like Gingira, many with English sites now explaining the process. Enjoy and no more need for Rosetta stone to learn Thai.
First photo attached is Nanase's profile photo. It says Nanase is 20. Surprisingly, at this store the ages aren't too off. Another girl is advertised as 19 and it turns out she was 19 when she started, but now 22 - it still says she's 19. So in a very backwards way this shop at least doesn't just make up a number, the ages were at one point correct (unlike many other shops).
They have quite the extras. If you see "A girl enter the room, fellatio Immediately" that's exactly what you means - she sucks your dick right away. I'm not sure I'm ready for that one, but I want to be brave. "Piss show" apparently in Japanese it's called "holy water" in kanji and you're just supposed to know that means piss. Huh. Note "Drinking cum", options like these depend on the girl, see a girl's ad page and if it shows O or not meaning they will do it. Most important, see if the girl is "foreigner okay" which a lot of them are. Triangle means "maybe" - either they roll a 20-sided die or they see I can speak in complete sentences and gives me the okay sign.
Some girls also support 3P. What a coincidence, so do I!
Seriously, it turns out just today I had my first 3P. Even blindfolded myself and correctly identified which girl it was by her ass before shoving in. Well, I will try to do the same in Japan once I get up to date on DH again. I love my oppai pubs but there are specific girls I want to see now.
This is one of the better shops with some great looking girls (I've seen them at a different shop before they moved here)and charges accordingly. The theme is 'disco era', love the look.
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10-16-24 21:53 #13835Senior Member

Posts: 181Is the 55000 fee paid upfront?
Originally Posted by RickRock
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Is there ability to negotiate addons with girl in private, or is the whole experienced pretty much scripted from girl perspective (was, bbj, covered sex, wash. Repeat for next guy)?
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10-16-24 20:44 #13834Senior Member

Posts: 1446Tried a new (to me) soapland called Casanova. This is a traditional place in Yoshiwara, which means you should get a soapy massage with mat play and sex. Their website is in English, which is a great sign. The website says "We are the 100% foreigner friendly" which is a better sign.
https://casanova-soapland.com/
I made initial contact over WhatsApp. Everything in English. They suggested making an appointment. I asked to visit in 2 days. A Friday afternoon. They said it was fine. I made arrangements to meet Asuka.
I showed up a few minutes early. They had my reservation by name. An older guy in a suit welcomed me and brought me to a waiting room. By the time he brought me some tea Asuka was already ready.
I came out and there she was. Friendly and waving. She's pretty, quite petite, speaks little English. Pretty much looks like her pics. But she did a great job. It was a full on soap experience.
Took off my clothes and put them away for me.
Washed my body with little sucks and licks in between.
Gave me a nice hot bath.
Full on soapy body slide with lots of mouth and tongue play.
Good rimming, great BJ.
FS with condom in several positions.
I laid back and let her do all the work. I go to a place like this to get serviced. And serviced I was! She rode me for a solid 15 minutes without taking a break. I was amazed by her effort. Felt great rubbing and touching that slim body with the lotion all over it too. No wonder Diddy buys oil by the truck load!
Total damage was 55,000 Yen for 80 minute. Got a drink and free ride to the train station after.
Definitely would repeat when I want real soapland service in Tokyo.
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10-15-24 22:31 #13833Senior Member

Posts: 181Straight Credible Advice
Okay gentlemen. Hoping for some straightforward answers from credible recent visitors to Japan. I need to decide whether to spend time and money visiting Japan. I've gone back and forth 10+ times now. I combine vacation / tourism with mongering each trip. Japan Plus: I'd like to see the country from tourist perspective. Japan Minus: the blatant anti-foreigner sex scene. I don't think I've been to a place (6 punting countries and counting) that isn't welcoming of foreigners. Sort of odd to me.
Yes, I can go back to Thailand only for the 5th time now, but it's becoming harder to explain to family and friends. After getting back from Brazil they're starting to figure out I travel to sex tourist.
Destinations.
So, my very specific questions which will help me decide if Japan is worth the expense and time are:
1. Is there enough foreigner friendly soaplands and escort services (health delivery) with quality and friendly girls? Or it this just one big hassle with disappointing results?
2. Is any foreigner able to get "raw" (bareback) sex from these venues even if they pay a little more? Yes, I'm polite, clean, well dressed, friendly, clean cut.
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10-13-24 05:38 #13832Senior Member

Posts: 644This was great.
Originally Posted by TravelerX
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Both the interviewer and the woman are good talkers and seem to be pretty intelligent.
She says she's 33 and will probably retire at 35.
Any idea where she works? I suppose with 1000 customers on her list getting a booking is pretty tough.
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10-12-24 05:12 #13831Senior Member

Posts: 243Okubo park article
Someone else just found out that there's this place called Kabukicho where women actually prostitute themselves. They wrote a whole article about it:
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...n-sex-tourism/
Articles like these are often embellished with rumor and exaggeration. I recognize many of the sources of the article and it is all too easy to fill in the blanks with whatever you want to finish an article.
"At Okubo Park, there are no pimps just men, including foreign nationals, looking for paid sex and young women there to give it. By 8 pm, there were around 30 women waiting to be called on. ".
This is true enough. There are some daily livestreams showing the lineup. Like with all things there are peak and busy times. Keep in mind youtube, tiktok, etc. Will play things up for shock value. Half the videos I've seen aren't even of prostitutes but claiming them to be. Simply reading the sign the girls are holding in Japanese would show they were advertising for a no touch girls bar. Totally different. But it gets the clicks.
"In the past, Japanese men used to be criticized for going to Southeast Asia for sex. Now, it appears to be the other way around, with foreign tourists and residents flocking to the area, fueled by a weak yen, robust inbound tourism and social media posts. ".
This is a shifting trend for sure, but to be clear 95%-98% of business is still Japanese locals obviously. This is not Thailand. In the same way, some Japanese women go abroad to neighboring countries to work. Asia, Austrlia, Canada, US, etc.
"Foreign tourists at times come in groups accompanied by an interpreter to help them negotiate. Some girls prefer foreign nationals, fearing that Japanese customers may turn out to be undercover police officers. ".
Certainly this happens but it is not the norm. The author is conflating Okubo park with other places staffed by foreign SWs, who do prefer foreigners and interact with them more often. And most approaches by foreigners are not going to involve a translator, though I have done just that when I was young. It's not common.
"The reality is that Japan has become a country where foreign men can obtain young women and essentially buy sexual services.
Most people understand this is an unusual outlier. We're talking a street in a district of a city where this happens. It is not the norm nor do people consider that to represent Japan. What is more well known is Japanese women at corgs around the world who may pleasure you on the clock including bb upcharge. It's everywhere now. I'll look up a girl I like and they make quite the tours around the world.
"The average price per session is around 20,000, but this can be lowered to 15,000 if business is slow. ".
Wow, thanks for the tip. Sounds about right.
"A Japan Times reporter on assignment witnessed several sex workers going straight to host clubs after working on the street and then heading back to the park again to earn more cash after the clubs closed at around 1 am ".
Good on them for doing personal research. They now know as much as I knew 20 years ago. Anyone with eyes can learn this information. This is a reminder not to take these articles too seriously, they are trying to give the facts with research but are not experts on this.
"Sex workers face many dangers, including physical violence, extortion and sexually transmitted diseases. ".
These are real risks, but not the norm. It's true it is hard to report violence in this work but anyone caught doing it should be punished.
"A friend was physically beaten by a foreign customer, who demanded she return half of the money he paid because he could not reach orgasm. Since her friend didn't want to risk being arrested, she called Miya for help instead. When they ran away from the man, he kicked Miya in the back and chased them, refusing to stop until Miya's friend returned the money. ".
This is one of those tell-tale made up stories where the villain patiently waits for a witness to show up before continuing their crazy behavior. No doubt it can happen, but this particular story of the violent but very patient customer did not happen. See these juicy fibs all the time in their articles to meet some deadline.
"Support groups and lawmakers say legal loopholes are to blame for what's happening. In Japan, buying and selling sex for money is illegal, but the ban is limited to penetration only. The anti-prostitution law imposes a criminal punishment of up to six months in prison and a fine of up to 10,000, but only for the seller and not the buyer. ".
Wow, thanks for the tip. It is true the police are going to suck their teeth on John's if they are just customers. Remember that only PIV is illegal, paying a woman for HJ / BJ / Anal / Sumatra is legal as long as she is of legal age. What men get in trouble for is being pimps / brokers, which is illegal.
Conclusion
It must be said that prostitution is not taken seriously in Japan. Nationally, about 400 arrests are made per year. Versus about 7,000 in the US now. Note the US used to average 70,000 in the year 2000 but has dropped enforcement 10-fold to just 7,000 in 2024. It is barely a drop in the bucket and not taken seriously in either country, hence big headlines for every case that makes the exception.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-sex-industry/
https://oppaga.fl.gov/Documents/Repo...20prostitution
This article is just about one notorious street in Kabukicho, a sub-district of Shinjuku in the city of Tokyo. Let me just say there are other streets where things are different obviously. I have written about them in the appropriate sub-forums.
I only know things because I have two eyes. If you have seen street action to be had, you too can write a report and warn us about naughty streets we should avoid.
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10-08-24 08:10 #13830Senior Member

Posts: 243The Kabukicho tachinbos are mainly Japanese. You'll want to speak Japanese or hopefully there are a few non-Japanese you can talk to. There are certainly newhalf ones too, they don't hide it. The newhalf ones have middlemen, but most tachnibos do not. If you see men talking to them, most are actually lookie-loos. Non-paying "window shopper" guys who just want to talk to prostitutes for free. The girls won't even look or react to most guys for that reason. So get to the point if you are serious.
Originally Posted by CCRider1008
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I have only seen foreigner tachinbos in less frequented areas near love hotels. Rather than downtowns like Shinjuku or Yokohama, I saw them in random places like Koganecho of Yokohama. My guess is there are police patrols in Shinjuku and Yokohama, whereas nobody patrols a backwater spot like Koganecho. Foreign women are going to be harassed by police for foreigner card / passport visa, so they tend to avoid busy areas. But I see 8 Thai women standing around in front of a Love Hotel, not hard to figure out. Just talking with them I soon confirm they are dtf.
Officially, most hotels will not let you bring a girl if you book a single. But you can often sneak a girl in anyways if you are with her. You just won't be able to get delivery health. I have seen a whole spectrum of hotels ranging from "we don't care or check much just don't let us catch you" to "we will hold onto your key for you whenever you step out like your mom - ask for it back when you return". In the latter case, it was in Roppongi and you had to walk past the lobby to even get to the room elevators. You had to ask for your key back every time, crazy. But it was an awesome hotel right next to the clubs so I put up with it. But even with that set up, I snuck a girl up twice! It's story time.
I met a Filipino girl in Roppongi who was DTF and I asked for my key from the front desk. She was clearly a girl ready to fuck. The guy said in English "Sir, no guests allowed". I said "Oh, I just want to show her the view a few minutes" and he couldn't hold back his huge smirk and just gave me the key. Such was my boldness with a straight face. We entered the elevator and as soon as the doors close the Filipino girl said in embarrassment "He knows!" And yes, we did bang after showing her the wonderful view. Even got in the tiny shower with her. Fortune favors the bold.
She was one of the rare times I picked up a girl without even intending to. I flirted with her at an internet cafe while she was putting on makeup - back then there were no cubicles or dividers.
It was hot, we fucked and fucked. Then after I told her how wonderful she was. When it was time for me to kick her out, she asked if I could give her "um.some taxi money". Oh I get it, cool. Fair enough too I have plenty of money so why not take care of a girl who was so nice to me. I would have gladly paid her from the start anyway, I don't like to take anything for free.
So I have to say that was my first night in Japan after a long flight and I was super jet lagged and confused. I saw I had a 10000 yen bill but also three 1000 bills. In my jet lag confusion I thought 3000 yen was better so offered it to her. But then noticed her glancing at the other bill. I gave her the 10000 bill in the end. Got her number to call her up again later in the week.
A whole hour later, I went down to the lobby and handed the key back, saying "She liked the view".
After that I was off to Roppongi. That was the first time in life I simply picked up a girl, so I wanted to see if I could repeat the magic at the clubs next.
So getting confused or sick from jet lag on my first night out wsa a recurring theme. But I often landed on a Friday and did not want it to go to waste (Friday and Saturday are best nights for Roppongi). So on another trip I picked up yet another girl the first night without even trying. I just talked to a lot of people, men and women, until I started talking to her. She was so cute and amazing, 22 and just my type.
I think the reason we hit it off was she was from North Korea (which blew my mind) but somehow also spoke Chinese (which isn't common but not exactly rare along the border regions). I could speak enough Chinese to talk with her, and after half an hour I invited her to a cafe since it was cold. But I was so jet lagged and I had two rum and cokes which were killing me - I wanted to sleep but also stay awake at the same time, plus nausea from sleep deprivation due to not sleeping on the flight since I was so excited.
Finally I was feeling more and more sick so I apologized to her, I told her she is wonderful and I know we had just agreed to go hang out at my hotel, but it's my bad we can't do it now. I was speaking in broken Chinese and confused by jet lag, so it took me a couple tries to explain it. I mean she was ready to go to my hotel next door and was confused, asking why not. She was dtf, I saw the signs. But I told her I didn't mean to waste her time and I gave her what I would have gifted her anyways. She was pretty surprised. Never saw her again.
I was so ready to take her but knew I was about to throw up. I made it back to my hotel room in time to do just that. Don't mix caffeine and alcohol with jet lag and sleep deprivation. First time wanting to fall asleep, throw up, and be awake from caffeine at the same time. It's been 20 years and I still am careful about that, it was that awful a feeling. Plus I missed out on North Korean pussy.
I know Shibuya is supposed to be the goto pickup spot, but Friday / Saturday nights in Roppongi I was lucky without even trying. I wasn't even trying to pick up these girls, I ended up meeting 3 over the course of 3 trips before moving on to oppai clubs instead of Roppongi. The 3rd girl I actually met at a club in Roppongi. I never forget while dancing against me her, her tits sliding up and down my chest. She was Vietnamese, on a legit Visa to work in Japan (as hotel front desk staff). She enjoyed the view too. The front desk guy didn't even look me in the eye this time.
So I guess to answer your question, I have had better luck meeting girls in Roppongi than SWs. Mainly on account that among the Thai girls I saw, all of them were older than me at the time. Kind of frustrating but I had to pass. Not so with the 3 Roppongi girls who were early 20s and cute. All my life until then, even mediocre American women rejected me. But here in Japan civilian girls of all types were dtf upon meeting me. Close to top tier girls somehow, I couldn't believe it at first. Japanese, Vietnamese, even North Korean. Not Chinese strangely. Had plenty of dates with Japanese girls despite being just a tourist. Not to mention all the shops I've written about. So you can see exactly why I flew to Japan no less than 20 times. Fucking paradise for a guy like me.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2946666
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10-04-24 15:25 #13829Regular Member

Posts: 23She has another profile in Singapore. I think it's almost 90% confirmed fake at this point. How can you be in both Tokyo and Singapore? Or did she forget to remove a posting? Idk. Another profile in Israel.
Originally Posted by AsapRocky
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https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/esco...5/?list=v52qfh
https://ondate.com/female-escorts/435677/pearl
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10-04-24 08:21 #13828Regular Member

Posts: 23I also found Pearl on 2 other sites with verified tag.
Originally Posted by Runon99
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https://massagerepublic.com/female-e...er-mixed-cuban
https://ondate.com/female-escorts/435679/pearl
Not sure what to make of it because like I said the independent escorts are always much hotter than the agency girls so it feels like too good to be true.
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10-04-24 06:46 #13827Regular Member

Posts: 23Yes that's exactly what I was thinking too. Pics look way way way too good to be true. She looks more like a world model than an escort; maybe it's AI generated pics. How can she be so perfect? It's so rare to see an escort like that.
Originally Posted by Runon99
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Now I can't trust verified girls from Eurogirlsescort, since some fakes still have a verified tag. Now, I notice another thing: independent girls are much much hotter than agency girls. I wonder if majority of independent girls are mostly fakes / scams. That would be unfortunate because I find them much much hotter so I may have to settle for agency girls.
Probably time to move on to another escort, maybe Melo but of course I have to message to see if legit https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/esco...7/?list=hpm0i5.









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