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Just finished out 10 days in Thailand. Spent 5 days in Bangkok and 5 in Pattaya. Hoping this detailed report will be useful to others traveling out this way. I'm posting in both the Bangkok and Pattaya threads.
Just by way of quick background, I'm from NYC and frequent a lot of the agencies there that have young Japanese girls working, so that was sorta my reference point for this trip. Now that I've mongered abroad, I'm starting to realize how good we have it in NYC as far as quality and service goes, although it is expensive. My report on the 10 days spent in Thailand is as follows:
Bangkok:
La belle: Tried this place on my last day as I wanted to experience one of Bangkok's famous "entertainment complexes". The place is basically a hotel but for hookers and massage LOL. Big lobby when you walk in where customers can sit and drink. Girls are up on a stage and seated near the bar as well. Every girl had a different ranking / price with the lower end being about $3 k baht for 90 minutes while upper end was 6-8 k. Most of the pricier girls had a more East Asian look with pale skin, and a few that I talked to said they were in fact mixed Thai / Chinese. I ended up doing a double here for under 10 k baht. Fun times but I do think you will find younger, cuter and less seasoned girls working at the gogo bars. You will also be able to get extras at the gogos like BBFS and video if that's your thing. I doubt these upgrades are on the table at soapy massage joints. I will also note that they don't have air mats at La Belle, which sorta sucks. You will get a nice soapy massage in the tub but they can't really do nuru. Still, this place was an experience, had around 30 girls available when I went during the afternoon, and there was way less BS to deal with compared to gogo. Good prices too.
Dozo Massage: Went here on my first day and I was so exhausted from the 20 hour flight I almost fell asleep during the mat play LOL. Similar experience to La belle but fewer girls and smaller venue. Not very GFE but the Mat play and nuru were pretty good, think I spent about it 6-8 k for 60 minutes. Tried to come back here on my last night but they only had 3 girls available so I bailed. I would recommend the place. Girls were hot and the soapy massage plus mat play was pretty damn good. But I think you're better off going early in the day. Seemed kinda dead when I went at night. During my first visit I went in the afternoon and they gave me a lineup of maybe 6-7 girls.
Aya Massage: This place was good bang for buck. Did 60 minutes nuru with a fairly hot girl, probably late 20's early 30's. Price was quite low at just 5 k baht for nuru and VIP room. Not my most memorable experience and again, no air mat for nuru. But if you're looking for some low cost fun, it's a good option. They gave me a lineup of at least 20 girls. A few of their girls were hot and young, some less so. It's a mid tier spot.
Kings Castle 1: Best gogo bar I went to in PatPong. I never would have found this spot on my own. But I was fortunate enough to meet another American at one of the gogo bars who had spent 6 months living in Bangkok. He took me to patpong one night and we ended up at this place. They have hot young girls and I took home a gem. One of my favorite girls of the trip. Young, slim and cute with braces, no tattoos, perfect tits and a tight ass. Wanted her to stay for overnight but she had class in the AM haha. Paid 5 k for ST plus 2 k tip to creampie her.
Baccara: The only place on Soi Cowboy that I found was worth my time. My newfound expat buddy mentioned above introduced me to the place during my first or second night in Bangkok. They had some hot young girls working, but overall I found quality was much better in Nana Plaza. The main thing I liked about Baccara was it had a good vibe. All girls wore short skirts without panties and the bar right in front of the stage was a mirror hehe. Also, if you're on the first floor and look up, you can see through the stage on the second floor where more girls are dancing. Just tons of good upskirt action (seemed to be the theme at this place) and pretty fun putting these no panty girls on your lap after buying them a drink. Some girls will let you get a nice handful of bare ass and pussy LOL. The management was pretty chill too and wouldn't squeeze too hard on drinks.
Private 69: Smaller place on Nana plazas second floor but it had some hot young girls. I found a real gem here who I did long time with. Cost for long time was 8 k total including drinks. We vibed well and she was a hot young mixed Chinese / Thai girl, so I brought her along with me for part of the vacation. Banged her at least 5 times.
Rainbow 5: this was the bar where I met that other American and he told me that Rainbow 5 is the best spot in Nana. It just might be. ST barfine 5 k total and girls were young and hot. Long time was maybe around 8 k. Most of the clientele here was Asian and that's how you know the pussy is good. It's the same at the NYC agencies haha. I was one of the few white guys in that bar.
Billboard: I brought a pretty fun young girl home from here on the first night. Honestly forget what the barfine was, I want to say it was around 5 k for ST. Quality seemed pretty good overall. But when I went back later in the trip I didn't see many girls that caught my eye. Not enough college cuties here for my taste haha.
Shark / Afterskool: Located in soi cowboy, both places were duds for me. One of them (I forget which) really fucking annoyed me because they had cute young girls out front and on the stage but you couldn't barfine any of them. I bought drinks for 2 or 3 different girls before I was told you can't barfine any girls whose number started with a 5. Well, all the hot young girls had a number that started with 5 LOL. I told the two girls I was drinking with that the place was a waste of time, then paid my tab and walked the F out. Before I left they tried to show me one of the girls you could barfine and well. Not good LOL. Hard pass.
Pattaya:
Pinup: Probably the best bar on walking street in terms of quality of girls. Many cute young college girls. However they will milk the ever living shit out of you on drinks and the barfine is high. ST here was around 7 k all in and long time was slightly over 10 k. Compare that to Bangkok where the going rate is 4-5 k for short and 7. 5 for long. They also have some bullshit rule where if you want to barfine a girl, you need to buy an additional 5 drinks, so add another 1,000 baht. I recall I barfined a girl here and bought the 5 drinks for her so we could leave. She didn't even drink them. If you want to feel out a few different ladies, you will drop an easy 1. 5 k on drinks here. They also have different prices for different girls with some being assigned "model" designation and given a higher rate.
XS: Comparable quality to Pin up. I barfined some young hotties from here. Price slightly lower than Pin up and the vibe was a bit better too. Think I took home 2 or 3 girls from this bar. They had the same BS rule about buying 5 drinks before you barfined the girl. I told MMS to her face that "you guys really milk the tourist money here in Pattaya. " She got all pissy with me over that and told me to go back to Bangkok LOL. I did still buy the 5 drinks for the girl I wanted to barfine. She downed 5 tequilas then puked when I brought her back to my hotel. Thanks MMS. Stupid fucking rule. Just greedy BS. Anyways, moving on.
Opium: Pretty good but a rung below XS and pinup in terms of quality. I brought home one girl from this place and she was hot but attitude / service wasn't great. Mid to late 20's Chinese looking chick.
LK Metro area: I went here one night and it wasn't good. Girls weren't very hot and clearly older. Many bars had girls who were topeless or fully nude, which was nice. However, the hottest and youngest girls never go topless let alone fully nude. I bailed on LK after I walked the street and popped into a few different bars. Found the quality on walking street to be much better. Even the soi 6 cheapie girls looked better than most of the LK metro ladies. I'the heard that it was a hot spot, so maybe I just had bad timing.
Soi 6: I walked this street 2-3 times and checked out a few bars I can't rember the name of, but didn't fuck any girls here. Prices were very low compared to walking street. Girls would do ST for just 1,500 baht, others were asking for closer to 4 K. Quality was lower here IMO and girls were more high volume. It's also more of an incall experience since you just take them upstairs to fuck, rather than going back to your hotel. Not really my thing and I'the rather pay a bit more for the high end stuff. Still a fun experience just to walk the street and have the girls grab at you though.
General thoughts:
I liked Bangkok more than Pattaya. There's more to do there besides just mongering and the food is better. But also girls are just as hot IMO. Prices are much fairer, as Pattaya is upcharging hard for tourists on walking street. Not only are Bangkok prices better and girls just as good, but the bars are chiller and don't milk as hard in drinks. Pattaya also has some bullshit rule where if you want to pull a girl off the stage, you need to buy her 5 drinks. Otherwise you wait for her to finish dancing, which can take 15 minutes. This wasted a lot of time IMO and I didn't like having to sit around waiting. What I started doing in Pattaya just to move shit along was I would pick two girls at a time and buy both drinks. Then if neither were good, get another two when there was a new rotation. Feel out both girls and maybe one was good enough for barfine. Bangkok bars on the other hand let you pull the girl (or girls) you wanted right off stage with no wait time. This felt more organic IMO and meant less time was wasted. If I returned to Thailand one day, idk that I'd go to Pattaya again. Probably Bangkok and Phuket.
Prices were a bit higher than I expected. Don't get me wrong, it's still cheaper than the USA But it's not quite the cheap pussy paradise people make it out to be. Maybe it was 10 years ago, but no longer. I probably paid about 7 k baht all in on average to barfine chicks for ST. That's not much cheaper than NYC girls. Plus you've got hotel and airfare to pay. You can fuck Japanese college girls in Manhattan for about $240 for 30 minutes, so at a certain point coming to Thailand for mongering doesn't make a ton of sense when you factor in time, convenience and other expenses on top of 5-7 k baht ST barfine. The Japanese girls in NY are also just higher quality overall IMO. Obviously it's an experience to come here, but just food for thought. I'm glad I came when I did because in another 10 years it really may not make much sense anymore in terms of cost.
I liked the gogo bar system, but it's not perfect. I am on the younger side and in decent shape, so was able to barfine most of the girls I wanted. I did run into a few of the so called "coyotes" who are basically the very hot and very young girls (the type I was after) who just don't do barfine and instead will milk customers for drinks. My first few days in Bangkok I loved the gogo bars and thought they were fun as shit. But towards the end of the trip I started to grow tired of the mating ritual and my luck started to run out. I found most of the best bar girls early on in my trip. I also ran into some trouble towards the end because I had barfined many girls from the same bars, and the girls there clearly starting to know me and talk about me amongst each other. While I don't really give a shit if the girls talk, I felt this made it harder to barfine new girls at a certain point. The girls and the management have remarkably good memories at these places, and they are watching you closely. One girl I bought a drink for at Private 69 remembered seeing me in there a week prior, remembered which girl I had barfined and even remembered where I had sat. I had never met this girl until I bought her drink, but apparently she knew me. No issues like this at the soapy massage places, it was a more straightforward service there. I didn't play with any freelancers during my trip but I imagine it's more straightforward with those ladies as well.
I will also say I noticed that a lot of guys seemed to go to these gogo bars to just drink and hang out. My approach was very different. I was not going to gogo bars to hang out, I was going to barfine hot young girls. I would get bored after hanging out there for more than 40 minutes. Most of the girls don't really even dance on stage so it's not that entertaining. If I didn't see girls I wanted to fuck, I would leave immediately and go to another bar. I was like a man on a mission and was trying to move fast so I could potentially fuck two girls a night. This was harder in Pattaya since they forced you to sit around and wait for the girls to get off stage. I would also change girls real fast if I bought them drinks and didn't like their vibe or their look. I do think that my overall approach rubbed the girls and the staff the wrong way on a few occasions, and maybe gogos weren't a great fit for my style. Maybe they are just used to customers who like to waste time and spend money on overpriced drinks. I don't even drink alcohol BTW, which they occasionally teased me over. Again I really was just there for the pussy LOL.
Hotels:
Bangkok I stayed at S15 and The Landmark. I would recommend both. S15 a bit cheaper with good central location in between Nana and cowboy. Landmark was much fancier and right next to nana plaza.
Pattaya I stayed at Aya boutique hotel. It was good for bringing girls back since it's so close to walking street, but the hotel wasn't very nice. It looked better online IMO. Also did a night at the Arbour hotel which was much nicer, but sorta far from the action. Can't really recommend either.
All hotels were girl friendly.
Overall a fun trip and I would potentially go back one day. Enjoyed the pussy and the food was pretty good too. Cheers guys. Sorry for the long post!
A very informal posting! Thumbs up 👍. But for a long time absent in this part of the world, things and prices change so drastically! Gogos bar girls asking rate for ST and LT was double from the last trip I made. Wow! Need to do some more home work and jag up the amount in my budget for this upcoming trip to BKK.
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 Originally Posted by MachoDik
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Anyone can share the on going rate in NEP for ST, LT and how much they charge for Bar fine? Sorry to ask, it's been a while out of that scene. Same as well for Thermae girls. Thanks.
Rainbows. 1,000 bargain.
4,000 short time.
I was actually shocked last week when I found out but it did make sense as bargaining was Down according to my eyeball observation s.
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Daisy Dukes Nuru.
At the risk of malware I clicked the photos. 1st one was all I needed to know what's going on. Girl complexion is Dark but you could tell the Photoshop to make her look White.
Soi 6 tactic making girls look White on their Facebook.
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 Originally Posted by MamaGuevos
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There is a pdf of the prices ( https://daisydream.club/qualif/DDPriceList.pdf; not cheap, but definitely not the most expensive sex in BKK) and a link to photos of girls who are working on any given day. It is easy to be fooled when trying to guess the age of Thai women, but to my eye, the age range is mid-20's to mid-30's. In any case, the major advantage of this particular Nuru massage place is that it is two blocks from the hotel where I stay (Bless Hotel and Residence. A clean and reasonably priced GF hotel). It doesn't have the line up of one of the big soapies, like the Poseiden Entertainment Complex, but its 5 miles closer!
With my previous experience with Nuru massage, I got the girls as exactly show in their webpage and in actual, most of them not veteran looks as Ying et al in Tulip but look passable. I believed ages between 20's to 30's is not uncommon in this industry even those gogo bar dancers. The only different from my own opinion, between massage girl vs gogo dancers is that we imagining those dancers dancing on the stage is like celebrities that we are fucking.
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 Originally Posted by MachoDik
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Reason why I opted to go Nuru massage as their prices is transparent and girls know what they doing to pleased their customers. Unlike those gogos bar girls that prices varies and sex varies depends on luck. Sometimes best pick sometimes star fish.
MD.
You can get a very sh*t service from a girl in a massage parlor too. Many among them like to waste time and go with a very limited service.
You've got to chose wisely but it's not that easy for a newby in Thailand.
Try to stick to some places talked over here (Snow White, Boss massage or others where members had a good time), and possibly try to find names of girls that have the reputation of giving a good service.
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 Originally Posted by MachoDik
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Anyone can share the on going rate in NEP for ST, LT and how much they charge for Bar fine? Sorry to ask, it's been a while out of that scene. Same as well for Thermae girls. Thanks.
A few months ago (June 2024), price was more or less 3 K for ST and 700 to 1 K for barfine in most of the places.
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Transparency on the daisy dream web site
 Originally Posted by MachoDik
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Reason why I opted to go Nuru massage as their prices is transparent and girls know what they doing to pleased their customers. Unlike those gogos bar girls that prices varies and sex varies depends on luck. Sometimes best pick sometimes star fish.
MD.
There is a pdf of the prices (https://daisydream.club/qualif/DDPriceList.pdf; not cheap, but definitely not the most expensive sex in BKK) and a link to photos of girls who are working on any given day. It is easy to be fooled when trying to guess the age of Thai women, but to my eye, the age range is mid-20's to mid-30's. In any case, the major advantage of this particular Nuru massage place is that it is two blocks from the hotel where I stay (Bless Hotel and Residence. A clean and reasonably priced GF hotel). It doesn't have the line up of one of the big soapies, like the Poseiden Entertainment Complex, but its 5 miles closer!
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 Originally Posted by MamaGuevos
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I suggest Daisy Dream massage ( https://daisydream.club/), located in an alley just off of Soi 33 in Sukhumvit (about 5-6 minutes from the Phrom Phong station). I was there last year, and the girls were mostly pretty, young and the facility (at least if you pick a service with Jacuzzi in the room) was great. I am allergic to Nuru gel, so I had a soapie. Following my BBBJ in the tub, did BBBJCIM after some B2 B on a mat. I then tried to go a second round with minimal success (it was my last night in BKK and I had been steadily pushing my limits each day). There were no old women, although not all of the girls were attractive. But, all I needed was one pretty girl, and I had a great time.
Reason why I opted to go Nuru massage as their prices is transparent and girls know what they doing to pleased their customers. Unlike those gogos bar girls that prices varies and sex varies depends on luck. Sometimes best pick sometimes star fish.
MD.
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Nuru providers usually old and unattractive. Sorry Bro.
To make you feel better I doubt most are having a blast with their chosen Nana Agogo girl.
If you find one you like consider yourself Lucky.
I suggest Daisy Dream massage (https://daisydream.club/), located in an alley just off of Soi 33 in Sukhumvit (about 5-6 minutes from the Phrom Phong station). I was there last year, and the girls were mostly pretty, young and the facility (at least if you pick a service with Jacuzzi in the room) was great. I am allergic to Nuru gel, so I had a soapie. Following my BBBJ in the tub, did BBBJCIM after some B2 B on a mat. I then tried to go a second round with minimal success (it was my last night in BKK and I had been steadily pushing my limits each day). There were no old women, although not all of the girls were attractive. But, all I needed was one pretty girl, and I had a great time.
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Anyone can share the on going rate in NEP for ST, LT and how much they charge for Bar fine? Sorry to ask, it's been a while out of that scene. Same as well for Thermae girls. Thanks.
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 Originally Posted by Thampi62
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Visited Thermae in September first week on a Friday night around 9 PM. Saw more than 100 girls and it look like market of girls. Every 2 minutes girls with punters are going to the love hotel upstairs. It wasa feast to the eyes. Do this crowd will be on weekdays too? Even if it is in a less number? Visiting Bangkok and Pattaya next week for three days. Expecting a moderate crowd in Thermae on Monday.
It's every night.
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 Originally Posted by Thampi62
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Visited Thermae in September first week on a Friday night around 9 PM. Saw more than 100 girls and it look like market of girls. Every 2 minutes girls with punters are going to the love hotel upstairs. It wasa feast to the eyes. Do this crowd will be on weekdays too? Even if it is in a less number? Visiting Bangkok and Pattaya next week for three days. Expecting a moderate crowd in Thermae on Monday.
The rain kept the girls down last night. I'll see what they're going to be like tonight because it's raining again.
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 Originally Posted by CCRider1008
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So, if you had 1 night and had to choose Nana or Soi Cowboy for combination of a little fun without being totally overly hassled to buy drinks or barfine in 5 minutes, but did want to take a hot accommodating cutey to hotel which would it be?
Nana without hesitation.
Cowboy is full of scam.
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 Originally Posted by MachoDik
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Inspite of fully booking flight, Airlines manage to squeeze my last minutes booking due to my Very Frequent flyers membership card but flight will be landed late afternoon, this is only for 4 days 3 nights short stay in BKK and wanting to make the best out of it! With my old age, a marathon of 3 straight days for at least 2 pops per day will be a torture to my self but instinct keep wanting me to make the most out of three days. Here is my plan:
1) Day 1 visit the nuru massage, even though they allowed 2 shots but will only try 1 , reserve one for evening. In the evening will find some girls in either Thermae or Soi Cowboy.
2) Day 2 afternoon visit in nuru massage or if not booking an outcall overnight with one of the girl from Nuru massage parlors.
3) Day 3 , legitimate massage to recuperate some energy and then Nuru massage in the evening. No overnight LT plan.
4) Day 4, as my flight is late afternoon, if my energy permit, perhaps a 2 hrs session in the Nuru massages parlor.
Perhaps you guys may notice why mostly I concentrate with Nuru massages? Well, thru out all these travels to BKK, I don't have much luck for finding girls in gogos bars. Even at Thermae, May be due to most Japanese are the focus of all these bars girls, due to they pay over the market prices!
Anyone wish to provide some better itinerary than above? You are most welcome!
MD.
Nuru providers usually old and unattractive. Sorry Bro.
To make you feel better I doubt most are having a blast with their chosen Nana Agogo girl.
If you find one you like consider yourself Lucky.
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Upcoming trip to BKK
Inspite of fully booking flight, Airlines manage to squeeze my last minutes booking due to my Very Frequent flyers membership card but flight will be landed late afternoon, this is only for 4 days 3 nights short stay in BKK and wanting to make the best out of it! With my old age, a marathon of 3 straight days for at least 2 pops per day will be a torture to my self but instinct keep wanting me to make the most out of three days. Here is my plan:
1) Day 1 visit the nuru massage, even though they allowed 2 shots but will only try 1 , reserve one for evening. In the evening will find some girls in either Thermae or Soi Cowboy.
2) Day 2 afternoon visit in nuru massage or if not booking an outcall overnight with one of the girl from Nuru massage parlors.
3) Day 3 , legitimate massage to recuperate some energy and then Nuru massage in the evening. No overnight LT plan.
4) Day 4, as my flight is late afternoon, if my energy permit, perhaps a 2 hrs session in the Nuru massages parlor.
Perhaps you guys may notice why mostly I concentrate with Nuru massages? Well, thru out all these travels to BKK, I don't have much luck for finding girls in gogos bars. Even at Thermae, May be due to most Japanese are the focus of all these bars girls, due to they pay over the market prices!
Anyone wish to provide some better itinerary than above? You are most welcome!
MD.
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