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  1. #16102

    Best save your energy for the REAL work ahead...

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman09  [View Original Post]
    What is KKKK? Ku -Klux- Klan- something?
    Yeah, Trump's Papa Smurf, was a member of the Ku Klux Klan (KKK), glad you're paying attention!

    Funny you ask, as your KKK comment, is used prolifically, by another member of your MAGA ISG cohorts, perhaps you should ask them, n'est-ce pas? (...kkkk!) See the difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman09  [View Original Post]
    LOL a great economy? 10,000 jobs last month --High Inflation-- I guess the Majority of voters are just Dummies and Spidee is a Genius--LMAO.
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Not even one day after being wrong about anything do you eat any humble pie. Of course it is the same old bullshit with you and all them. Oh we were all wrong about Trump winning? Never mind.

    Maybe shut up and figure out what you got wrong before popping off again. How about that?
    You guys can bloviate, all you want, in the face of a trifecta. Less excuses for MAGA, to hide behind, when enviably shit doesn't get done and the "know nothing", "do nothing" MAGA congress show up.

    So enjoy the win, the REAL work (not shooting off your mouth prematurely), for Repubs/MAGA to "run the country into the ground", starts very soon!

    But I'm really hoping, this time around for Repubs and MAGA, it'll be different and won't be the case? Here's to hoping!

  2. #16101
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    I was taught its a White Mans World!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/06/o...ump-world.html
    Actually I'm celebrating the defeat of old white men, Democrats Jon Tester, Sherrod Brown, and Bob Casey. And the victory of one old white woman, Republican Deb Fischer. Republicans will control the Senate! Unfortunately American Hero Mitch McConnell, who's retiring, won't be leading them next year. It's almost certain Republicans will control the House too, a fact not recognized by many Democrats. Joy Reid on MSNBC still thinks Hakeem Jeffries will be the next Speaker of the House!

    Trump's a mixed bag. I couldn't vote for him, because of his character and his election meddling in 2020/2021. But he will promote deregulation and rational taxation. Hopefully he'll play a part in bringing peace to Ukraine. On the other hand, he's a spendthrift. A Harris presidency and Republican Congress would perhaps be less likely to run big deficits. But maybe there's light at the end of the tunnel on that. Trump said Elon Musk will engineer cuts to save the federal government $2 trillion a year. Ojala!

    The main reason for the "Hahahahahaha" though was that Tooms' and Spidy's belief that the American economy is in great shape because of Democrats was firmly rejected by the majority of American voters.

  3. #16100
    Quote Originally Posted by RamDavidson84  [View Original Post]
    My portfolio is already up quite nicely! Trump doesn't need to pass any legislation. His presence alone will spur investment and a stronger economy. I just sold my Lockheed Martin and bought big into Tesla and its already paying off. No more wars and new tech is the way to go. America spoke, WE WANT money! Trump will deliver.

    That being said, let's hope he keeps his bullshit to a minimum and does focus on unifying the country through success and does the things he was elected to do. I will be the first to criticize him when and if he fails. First thing he has to do is end this bullshit in Ukraine with his boy Putin and this will win over NATO and Europe. Then parlay that success and use the momentum to end the conflict in Israel. Netanyau will bend the knee in a split second if we threaten to pull support. He'll be quick to make a deal. By solving those two problems the world won't be able to ignore the power of the Orange Giant LOL and he can use that to his advantage in getting some trade deals done with China. America is going to love those dirt cheap imports or we buy American and spur domestic manufacturing. Either way we we'll win.

    Border does need to be secured, but hopefully he doesn't deport all the illegals. I didn't want to say this before the election, but they are great for the economy. Cheap labor and 30 million extras consumers and all the natives have to do is invest in Corporate America and we can't lose. Next four years will be known as the "TRUE" roaring twenties. Here comes the boom!

    To all the Dems like Tooms, sorry for your loss boys. I was never one to kick a man when he is down. Look on the bright side, In four years we get to do it all over again.
    Excellent post. I agree wholeheartedly with most of it. I hope you're right, that he'll use the tariffs as a negotiating tool to promote free trade, instead of a closing America to imports.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis 2008  [View Original Post]
    Let's be clear, if Trump succeeds, it will not be about his winning strategy, but the Democrats' losing one. They handed it to him on a platter.

    They kept on telling struggling Americans that the economy was good. Despite the entire nation being hurt by inflation. End of quote.

    The Biden economy has been great for the stock owning and home owning elite but for everyone else? Not so much. It turns out people can do math and see their prices up every damned day and they have less money in their bank accounts.
    Another great one.

  4. #16099

    But but but aren't Dems living from paycheck to paycheck too?

    I see the typically pro Repub Mainstream Media pundits are blathering their usual trashing of the Dem Party, their "failures" to understand this or that, their ineffective campaign strategies and tactics, losing touch with the American people and all that while praising the genius of Trump, the connection Repubs have with the American people, how Trump got it that this economy sucks while Harris didn't and all that.

    However, this is what happened in terms of 2024 voter turnout:

    Trumps victory and his improvements all across the country.
    Compared with 2020, a greater share of votes were cast in red areas.
    Nov. 6, 2024


    https://www.politico.com/live-update...nties-00188064

    Overall turnout numbers will continue to tick upward over the remaining weeks as additional ballots are reported. But the disparities in the current results are clear in suggesting a strong performance from the GOPs base, and lower turnout from Democrats.

    The shifts were not entirely uniform: Turnout did not drop as much in Democratic strongholds in the battlegrounds, perhaps a sign that the partys campaign apparatuses and the significant attention paid to the election in those states still drove the partys base. In Wisconsin, for example, turnout in Milwaukee and Dane counties roughly matched 2020 numbers.
    The history of Dem vs Repub voter turnout for the most part shows Dems turning out to vote more than Repubs during times of verifiable, objectively identifiable economic distress while Repubs turn out to vote more than Dems after being riled up by irrational fear, hate and sucker social issues spun by their Party's con men along with their perennial election benefactors in Mainstream Media.

    Despite what they give for an easier, lazier answer to the "Which Party / candidate handles the economy better" poll question, the consistent historical fact is the American Electorate does not elect more Repubs to fix the economy when it is indeed crashing down around our ears as it does so often at the end of Repub presidential terms. They vote for more Dems to fix it.

    Only when the economy and jobs creation is doing quite well are Dems complacent enough to stay home or to not bother to vote. Like they did this time.

    As I pointed out months and months ago, the irony is the greatest threat to an easy re-election of Joe Biden is that in fact his economy is doing too well. That is precisely when voters and particularly Dem voters don't feel a need to race to the polls on election day or bother to vote by any other means. They are fine with how things are. Oh, they LOVE to complain about it, about the price of everything. But their habitual complaints about those things don't translate into being so concerned about it they must vote to change it.

    Kamala Harris lost while Trump benefitted from those circumstances this year the same way Hillary Clinton lost while Trump benefitted in 2016. At the end of Obama's presidency, the economy was doing quite fine and everyone knew it.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vote...tial_elections

    That's why more Repubs than Dems came out to vote this time around and the only reason Trump was carried into a win on a Red wave. Period. Sorry.

    People have always complained about the price of bacon and eggs. Yet, plenty of bacon and eggs are bought and eaten every year.

    Considering wages have far out-paced the typical American worker's purchasing power of 2019, adjusted for inflation (thanks to Blue Cities in Blue States raising the minimum wage in 2018 and 2019, the ripple effect from that into higher wage earners and the brave and brilliant Biden recovery from Trump's Pandemic), the reason fewer Dems showed up to vote this year was simply because their financial situation is quite alright today, thank you very much. As it also is for Repubs. But Repubs were riled up to vote by con man Trump based on irrational fear, hatred and the usual sucker social issues than can always be relied on to rile up Repub suckers.

    It would be interesting to see how many Propositions on ballots around the country requiring additional expenditures to fund this or that also passed just fine this year compared to, say, 2008 and 2020. That would be because voters know they can afford it. Thanks, Joe.

    And now you know the REST of the story.

  5. #16098
    All the meaningless arguments over. Hope some people learned their lessons. Now let's unite the World!

  6. #16097
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Incredible, US have no brain, to forget he didn't respect law nor constitution nor democracy, leading to 6 January 2021 after all his bullshits about dominion. Then, many Repubicans like Pence resisted to his pressure with his mafia like Guliani, in order to respect constitution he doesn't even know and care about. When most Republicans with brain voted for Republicans but not for Trump, US will be now governed by his mafia including now Musk who bought people for him. For our world, let s hope his life will now be very short and same for Putin. Problem is not Republicans, but mafia Trump who fucked deeply US who believed him.
    It really never ends LOL. Trump could literally save the Planet from world war 3, Alien invasion, and an asteroids strike in the same month and Dems will still find something to complain about. Give the man a chance and wait until he actually does something fucked up to call him out on.

    Here are some examples of the Biden failures.

    1. Pull out of Middle East failure.

    2. Closed pipe line costing 50,000 jobs in PA. Probably cost him those electorals too, but he had to bend the knee to the deep state.

    3. Supply chain issues.

    4. 20% inflation year over year.

    5. Allowed corporate America to take over real estate, can't buy a home.

    6. 80,000 open border fentanyl deaths a year.

    7. Sky high violent crime rates and then pass legislation to eliminate harsh penalties for criminals.

    8. Gets bullied by Union bosses driving up costs for consumers.

    9. Use our tax Dollars to Protect Europe from Russia while Europe treats us like shit and shames us into giving them more money for NATO.

    10. Israel.

    That's just all I can remember off the top of my head. Wait for Trump to have some sort of failure similar to those and then you can start you complain train. If there was ever a country I wouldn't mind going to war with, its France! Their liberal feminine strange culture ruined the west. Macron literally married a 90 year old wMAN to get elected. That is the most pathetic politician of my life time. Even worse than Biden and his junkie son.

  7. #16096

    I am an atheist

    Quote Originally Posted by Artisttyp  [View Original Post]
    Be happy for me. I thought I was going to be choking on sheep turds this Thanksgiving.

    Trump won in a landslide victory. He created a new following for the Republican Party. I was at the rally in the South Bronx. There were people from all walks of life and colors. Everyone was tolerant and supportive of each other. The vibe was upbeat and positive.

    No more vile protests shutting down universities. No free rides for criminals on the taxpayers dime. Focus is on America and Americans.

    They tried to destroy this guy by any means necessary even attempted murder. Yet he continued defiant and strong giving the ultimate F you response by overcoming the challenges and rising to the top once again.

    An American hero. He will be remembered as one of America's political icons forever..
    But he is my Living God!

    Post-script nicely stated.

  8. #16095

    And So It Begins, continued:

    Skyrocketing mortgage interest rates is a good start. But not nearly enough.

    Mr. President. Sir. Where are the jobs?

    Where are the tariffs?

    Remember, Promises Kept?

    Day one. No golf. "Turn this economy around". IMMEDIATELY. No later than January 21,2025. This is an EMERGENCY!

    Trump's proposed tariffs could raise prices for consumers and slow spending.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/06/trum...ndroidappshare

    For retailers and consumers finally feeling some relief from inflation, President-elect Donald Trumps tariffs proposal introduces fresh uncertainty around how prices could change during his presidency, analysts said Wednesday.

    Trump, who NBC News projects won a second term in a decisive victory, said during his presidential campaign that he would impose a 10% to 20% tariff on all imports, including tariffs as high as 60% to 100% for goods from China.

    Companies, retail trade groups and industry analysts have warned the move could fuel higher prices on a wide range of Americans purchases such as sneakers and party supplies.

    "The adoption of across-the-board tariffs on consumer goods and other non-strategic imports amounts to a tax on American families, National Retail Federation CEO Matthew Shay said in a statement Wednesday. It will drive inflation and price increases and will result in job losses.

    Earlier this week, the NRF released a study on the impact of Trumps proposed tariff increases and said they would lead to dramatic double-digit-percentage price spikes in nearly all six retail categories that the trade group examines. Those categories are apparel, footwear, furniture, household appliances, travel goods, and toys.
    ...........
    Despite Trumps assertions to the contrary, tariffs are paid by the companies or entities importing goods and not by the countries themselves. This means the cost of buying products from overseas, whether directly or as an input for manufacturing, would rise sharply, said Saunders.

    Given the trade between Chinese manufacturers and US retailers, a strict tariff policy would mean retailers initially either taking a massive hit on profits or being forced to put up prices, which would fuel inflation and dampen retail volume growth, he said.
    .........
    Deep discounters, such as Dollar Tree, are also exposed because their fixed-price-point business model makes it difficult to pass on higher prices to customers, said Peter Keith, a senior research analyst at Piper Sandler. The store, which sells discretionary items like toys and party hats, imports many of its items from China and has set prices of $1.25. That means the company needs to either absorb higher costs or shake up its price point model altogether, he said.
    ..........
    "If we get tariffs, we will pass those tariff costs back to the consumer, AutoZone CEO Philip Daniele said on an earnings call in late September. He said the company typically hikes prices ahead of tariffs going into effect.

    Customers could also pay more for a six-pack of beer, a bottle of Scotch, or even a pack of Oreos, thanks to tariffs.
    ............
    Shoes for adults and kids would cost more, too, if Trumps proposed tariffs go into effect, said Matt Priest, CEO of Footwear Distributors and Retailers of America, a trade group that counts Nike, Walmart and others as members.

    About 99% of all footwear sold in the U.S. is made overseas, he said, and it would be difficult to move a meaningful chunk of that production back to the States, even if a cost penalty is tacked on.

    Count us skeptical that theres a pathway for us to figure out how to make two and a half billion pairs of shoes in the U.S. every year, he said.

    "The rate of inflation is declining, he said. It would be counterproductive to then turn around and go back to pulling one of those inflationary levers, which would be additional tariffs, at a time when the consumers telling all of us, both politically on last nights results, as well as from a consumer perspective: We dont want higher prices.
    Donnie, your voters demand that you keep this promise and enact it on day one.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Screenshot_20241106_011534_Chrome.jpg‎  

  9. #16094
    Incredible, US have no brain, to forget he didn't respect law nor constitution nor democracy, leading to 6 January 2021 after all his bullshits about dominion. Then, many Repubicans like Pence resisted to his pressure with his mafia like Guliani, in order to respect constitution he doesn't even know and care about. When most Republicans with brain voted for Republicans but not for Trump, US will be now governed by his mafia including now Musk who bought people for him. For our world, let s hope his life will now be very short and same for Putin. Problem is not Republicans, but mafia Trump who fucked deeply US who believed him.

  10. #16093

    Please!

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman09  [View Original Post]
    LOL a great economy? 10,000 jobs last month --High Inflation--I guess the Majority of voters are just Dummies
    Anybody being objective knows that the Boeing strike and the storms greatly impacted new job growth negatively. And inflation is back down from its highs. Those are objective facts. And the majority can be dead wrong too. Example: the majority gleefully cheered for Hitler. Obama handed Trump a good economy (after cleaning up after Republican Bush) and he fucked it up. Biden is also handing him a strong economy having a soft landing from inflationary pressures (that was caused by the pandemic and not Biden). What's Trump going to do? Certain he will fuck that up as well, among many other embarrassing flubs and fuck ups. Why so sure? Because the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior! Republicans run the economy into the ground with their tax cuts for the rich and bullshit "trickle down voodoo" economics. Then Democrats come in and clean it up. It's clearly a thankless job!

  11. #16092

    The honest answer is:

    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    What's wrong white guys running "our country not yours" you've lived in Asia for 12+ yrs and according to your past posts, you are never coming back.

    So what's wrong with the people that built the USA for the last 245+ yrs, running it?

    As opposed to an Indian anchor baby like slutty Harris?

    I think you hate men espec White Christian American ones, does that sound about right?

    That's what I'm reading in your post.

    The reason for the question is because you are an American born white Christian male?

    Your post leaves me seriously nonplussed.
    Today, Kamala Harris proved herself to be a "Better Man" than Putin's Bottom Donnie Trump, Moscow Mitch, Lindsey Nellie Graham, Little Marco and every other Repub ever has in their lives.

  12. #16091

    Dark Side

    Quote Originally Posted by Artisttyp  [View Original Post]
    They tried to destroy this guy by any means necessary even attempted murder. Yet he continued defiant and strong giving the ultimate F you response by overcoming the challenges and rising to the top once again. An American hero.
    And in a nutshell, this explains at the heart of it why Trump won again. More people chose to believe this than those who know it was about holding Trump accountable for his crimes and civil violations. The man who sparked an insurrection rather than abide by the time-honored peaceful transition of power. I'll tell you what. You're going to reap what you've sown. That's for sure. We're all going to suffer in the end because of it. Wait until your euphoria starts wearing off. And reality "beach slaps" you dead center in the forehead! I will say I told you so! Fate has given Donald J. Trump another chance. Let's see if he can rise to the occasion and "make America great again". I sincerely doubt it, because the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. God protect and bless America!

  13. #16090

    Ah, I see you are a man of science.

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman09  [View Original Post]
    LOL a great economy? 10,000 jobs last month --High Inflation-- I guess the Majority of voters are just Dummies and Spidee is a Genius--LMAO.

    Remember James Careville the Folksey Weirdo -It's the Economy Stupid'?

    Dude-- You watch the CIA sponsered Scumbag media too much-- Obviously because you and a lot of the other brainwashed Dickheads here believe in the Russia Bullshit and 30-50 other hoaxes thay have concocted against Our President Donald J Trump--Also LOL-- You Believed the Close Polls- Pull your head out of Your Ass.
    Um. While it is easily substantiated that Donald Trump's dangerous and stupid economic and national security decisions in 2018 and 2019, contrary to all expert warnings for him not to make those decisions, led directly to converting a likely manageable Covid epidemic restricted to just one region of China into the historically deadly, worldwide economy-destroying Trump's Pandemic it became and further exacerbated by his critical 2020 year-long lies about it, mass murdering at least a million Americans and wiping out millions upon millions of jobs, there is zero evidence that either Joe Biden or Kamala Harris can really control the weather and cause 2 Hurricanes to hit the usual Red State areas of America in a single month:

    Employers added only 12,000 jobs in October. That seems bad but there's a catch.
    Nov. 1,2024


    https://www.npr.org/2024/11/01/nx-s1...-boeing-strike

    U.S. employers added a scant 12,000 jobs in October but the labor market is likely not as weak as that number implies.

    That's because the number was skewed by an ongoing strike at Boeing and by the impact of Hurricanes Milton and Helene. The unemployment rate, which is less subject to temporary distortions, held steady at 4.1% in October, according to the Labor Department report released on Friday.
    Is that the same scientific method you apply to determining who is a "smart businessman"?

  14. #16089

    The Bright Side

    Be happy for me. I thought I was going to be choking on sheep turds this Thanksgiving.

    Trump won in a landslide victory. He created a new following for the Republican Party. I was at the rally in the South Bronx. There were people from all walks of life and colors. Everyone was tolerant and supportive of each other. The vibe was upbeat and positive.

    No more vile protests shutting down universities. No free rides for criminals on the taxpayers dime. Focus is on America and Americans.

    They tried to destroy this guy by any means necessary even attempted murder. Yet he continued defiant and strong giving the ultimate F you response by overcoming the challenges and rising to the top once again.

    An American hero. He will be remembered as one of America's political icons forever.

    Last but not least he is going to get revenge on the people who tried to destroy him. I love a good Beach Slap. 👋.

  15. #16088

    So how about an honest answer for once in your life?

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Yes, this pretty much puts an end to anyone but a middle-aged or older White guy running for president for a long time. Obama was probably a one-off. The timing was right for him in that many Wingers crossed over to vote for him on the assumption that the Great Repub Recession and Massive Jobs Destruction he was handed was so godawful he would never be able to fix it and at least they shuffled off that responsibility and blame to a black guy. And, therefore, he would be the first and last Black president.

    But then he did the unforgivable; he actually fixed it! In historic fashion! Consequently, Wingers had to hate and demonize him and his Administration even more.

    And now with Hillary's and this election calamity, no more female abd / or Black major party candidates for a while. Probably a long, long while.
    What's wrong white guys running "our country not yours" you've lived in Asia for 12+ yrs and according to your past posts, you are never coming back.

    So what's wrong with the people that built the USA for the last 245+ yrs, running it?

    As opposed to an Indian anchor baby like slutty Harris?

    I think you hate men espec White Christian American ones, does that sound about right?

    That's what I'm reading in your post.

    The reason for the question is because you are an American born white Christian male?

    Your post leaves me seriously nonplussed.

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