American Politics

[SubCmdr]

The Democratic Party got its collective ass handed to them Because of policy and focus on issues that the average citizen of The United States of America does not give a fuck about!

The United States of America is full of working people. The Democratic Party has forgotten that. They want to tax you until you only have spare change in your pocket and begging for food on the street.

The United States of America is full of people figuring out how to put meat in the pot for dinner. The Democratic Party is focused on the meat between the legs of men who want to be girls.

The United States of America is full of people who are invested in crypto. These are people who have put their money where their mouth is. The Democratic Party ignored the crypto vote. They are focused on building a "Anti Cyrpto" army. The Senator who said that is a Democrat and still holds her seat. In the minority. Oops!

Trump is considered pro crypto. 261 Pro crypto candidates elected to the House of Representatives. 17 Pro crypto candidates elected to the Senate.

Do crypto holders have the attention of the Democratic Party now?

[Elvis 2008]

https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/31/h...on-was-rigged/

MDS, your inbox is full.

Besides the ridiculously rigged vote in 2020, the lawfare campaign and the assassination attempts were from a deep state determined not to let Trump get into power and hide all their illegal activity. Now we see the Democratic legal rats, engaged in the disgusting and real threat to Democracy lawfare campaigns, scurrying to dismiss their cases as fast as possible.

I hope Trump disbars all that legal scum who engaged in the disgusting lawfare campaign and fines the shit out of them.

[Elvis 2008]

Your LAS has admitted himself he lost the election, and on more than one occasion. The jig is up, go with the program already.

Yeah, right. Trump has gotten 74 million votes in the 2020 and 2024 elections. In this election, Kamala is at 69 million. Hiliary got 66 million, and Obama got 62 million in 2012. You see any statistical outliers because I sure as fuck do not.

And then there is Biden in 2020. How many votes did he get? 81.4 million!

You mean Harris lost because one in eight Democrats sat out 2024? Give me a fucking break! The pattern is you get 3 or 4 million more votes per election, but in 2020, Biden supposedly got 15 million more votes than Hiliary.

I do not know how anyone with a functioning brain can look at these numbers and not conclude there was MASSIVE cheating that went on in 2020.

[Elvis 2008]

Maybe, because a woman, when latinos and black don t want a woman to govern them, from their middle age mind. Democrats mistake, but they were in hurry to find other than Biden. US need a woman to make them improve, rather than a not clever, only bullshiting Trump, but Democrats should better find a man for 2028 , when US are not ready for a woman.

Here we go, another soy boy. Kamala lost because of sexism. Of course, that overlooks the fact that female voters outweigh male voters. Just like most of Spidy's dates, many of the women stayed home.

How about women did not like Kamala? Or were just too damned lazy to vote? Don't wory, S, if you pony up all that Trump tax cut cash, I am sure you will find a woman willing to peg you.

Maybe you should say racist America was not ready for a 75% white president.

[EihTooms]

Typically pro Repub Mainstream Media, yes even MSNBC and many, many Democrats are certainly engaging in a whole lot of Revisionist History in order to blame Harris, Walz, Biden and every other Dem for the 19% or so Dem voters who were so satisfied with their financial situation today that they didn't bother to follow the news and vote this time around for the admittedly horrible outcome for America in this election result.

I see Professional Dem Election Victory spoiler, Bernie Sanders, lying about how the Democratic Party has "abandoned the American working class" for the past 30 years or whatever. LOL.

Others are saying this election outcome is something like the culmination of the Dems' decades long loss of connection with the American people, how the American people are "abandoning them back", that Trump and his Repubs just know how America thinks and feels and that is why he and they are winning elections.

I hear hogwash about Dems being out-of-touch and must overhaul their entire Party agenda and philosophy vs Genius, common sense, Real American-whisperers Trump and the Repubs blah blah blah.

Total nonsense.

If any of that were true, how is it that the exact opposite of it was "culminating" in historic fashion at least up until this year and right before this particular election?

Does anybody remember this? Gee, it was barely more than a year ago:

Democrats have been winning big in special elections.
That could bode well for them in the 2024 election.
Sept. 20, 2023

https://abcnews.go.com/538/democrats...y?id=103315703

"Does that really mean anything? On its own, no any single special election can be influenced by any number of factors, including candidate quality or parochial issues. But Democrats have been posting special-election overperformances of that magnitude all year long, in all kinds of districts. And on average, they have won by margins 11 points higher than the weighted relative partisanship of their districts.
..........
Thats more than just an impressive streak its a potential sign of a Democratic wave election in 2024. In each of the past three election cycles, a partys average overperformance in all special elections in a given cycle has been a close match for the eventual House popular vote in the eventual general election albeit a couple of points better for Democrats.

Special elections can help predict the general election
The degree to which a party overperformed its partisan baseline in special elections for each cycle from 2017-18 to 2021-22, compared with the eventual national House popular vote in the regularly scheduled general election.
...........
Special elections have been predictive for a long time
The degree to which a party overperformed its partisan baseline in special elections for each cycle from 1989-90 to 2015-16, compared with the eventual national House popular vote in the regularly scheduled general election.

Yes, I realize that is not flawlessly predictive of anything. But not only was that happening for Dems but it was happening after 30+ years of Dem presidential candidates winning more votes from Americans in the working class and every other class than the Repub candidate in all but one election. After an already very old Dem candidate and multiple presidential nominee loser won 7,000,000 more votes and the EC majority against an incumbent president, something Trump has still never done at any level, and who even after this recent election got more votes in a presidential election than anyone else in history.

Sorry, but that does not fit the definition of a Party that has lost its touch and connection with the American people and must reassess and overhaul its entire political and governance philosophy.

To be sure, Dems must consider and look into the reason 19% of the Dem voters sat this one out, which is the sole reason Trump squeaked out a 1-3 point advantage in 3-4 battleground states and won the election. And it is the sole reason he will probably squeak out a popular vote win too, something no first term Repub candidate has done since Reagan in 1980! That was 44 years ago!

But I think the typically pro Repub MSM is getting a bit too drunk with giddy excitement over the opportunity to really trash Dems and glorify Trump and Repubs just because 19% of Dem voters were not particularly inspired or motivated to vote this time. Granted, it was at the worst possible time. But it is hardly a culmination of anything or a reason to start behaving more like Know Nothing, Do Nothing Repubs.

Maybe the 19% of Dems who sat it out simply wanted to contribute to making USA presidential history in the first time a convicted Felon was elected president.

[EihTooms]

Democrats are sore losers. Republicans are bad winners. Good bad or indifferent; the country will get what they voted for.

What have you heard from Harris, Walz, Biden, Schumer or any other Democratic Party leader that leads you to conclude, "Wow. Democrats are sore losers"?

Has Harris refused to call Trump to congratulate him for his win and failed to tell her supporters she has done that? Has she refused to concede?

Has any one of them claimed "the election was rigged! Stolen! We won't concede"?

Has a losing Democrat anywhere in any contest tweeted a message to his / her supporters to stand down and stand by, we're having a rally at the Capitol, it's going to be wild?

Has Harris called the Secretary of State of any state she lost and insinuated that President Biden might need to apply his newly SCOTUS-granted Royal Immunity to sic Navy SEALs on them if they don't "find" the missing votes she needs to start flipping the election?

Where are you seeing Dems being sore losers? I have not seen any such thing.

But I do agree that the American people will get what they voted for and the 19% or so of Dem voters who decided to sit this one out for whatever reason will get what they allowed to happen. They better get that, all of it or Trump will have apparently broken promises he says he always keeps.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Your LAS has admitted himself he lost the election, and on more than one occasion. The jig is up, go with the program already.

https://amgreatness.com/2021/10/31/h...on-was-rigged/

[Sirioja]

The consensus is this election is definitive proof that 2020 was stolen.

The American people would never fire Trump in 2020 and then turn around reelect him 4 years later (with almost 5 million more votes than the ho) after all the drama of the last 4 years.

Its extremely obvious he won in 2020 just like he did in 2016 and 2024.

BTW where the fuck is that worthless piece of shit Pelosi that helped push Scumbag Joe on the tracks??

Yes, for sure, bad dominion, when Hilary had more votes than him in 2016. But Pence accepted his defeat, when Trump led to kill constitution and democracy. When shooting a ear is more difficult than reaching full face, I could have doubt if it was not just a show: God messenger, which helped him so much. Future will tell reality.

[SubCmdr]

Democrats are sore losers. Republicans are bad winners. Good bad or indifferent; the country will get what they voted for.

[Sirioja]

But I can tell you one thing, I don't care how well a ho can blow me if she's ugly like her, I'm not even getting hard (she better be thin and very pretty and between 18-20).

Have you seen pictures of her 40 yrs ago, she's just as ugly as she is today (and 40 yrs older) if not worse!!

From his behavior with women, I m pretty sure your crazy has a small tool, when he has a frustrated about women, behavior.

[Sirioja]

Yes, biggest Democrats mistake was to not prosecute such crazy dangerous playing clown.

When US are less than 5% of our world, for population, but much more for pollution killing many in Florida, Louisiana and California, except Netanyahou and Orban, I think most of our world wish a very short life to Trump, like for Putin.

[Sirioja]

LOL. Spidey, the one thing everyone here knows is that no matter what Trump does, you and Tooms are going to gripe about it. Hell, you two douches and Cane are already lying about how great the economy was. If the Biden / Harris economy was so fucking great, why did Harris lose?

Maybe, because a woman, when latinos and black don t want a woman to govern them, from their middle age mind. Democrats mistake, but they were in hurry to find other than Biden. US need a woman to make them improve, rather than a not clever, only bullshiting Trump, but Democrats should better find a man for 2028 , when US are not ready for a woman.

[EihTooms]

The New York Times post-election editorial:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/06/o...rump-wins.html

America Makes a Perilous Choice
Nov. 6, 2024

American voters have made the choice to return Donald Trump to the White House, setting the nation on a precarious course that no one can fully foresee.

The founders of this country recognized the possibility that voters might someday elect an authoritarian leader and wrote safeguards into the Constitution, including powers granted to two other branches of government designed to be a check on a president who would bend and break laws to serve his own ends. And they enacted a set of rights most crucially the First Amendment for citizens to assemble, speak and protest against the words and actions of their leader.

Over the next four years, Americans must be cleareyed about the threat to the nation and its laws that will come from its 47th president and be prepared to exercise their rights in defense of the country and the people, laws, institutions and values that have kept it strong.

It can't be ignored that millions of Americans voted for a candidate even some of his closest supporters acknowledge to be deeply flawed convinced that he was more likely to change and fix what they regarded as the nation's urgent problems: high prices, an infusion of immigrants, a porous southern border and economic policies that have flowed unequally through society. Some cast their votes out of a profound dissatisfaction with the status quo, politics or the state of American institutions more broadly.

Whatever drove this decision among these voters, however, all Americans should now be wary of an incoming Trump administration that is likely to put a top priority on amassing unchecked power and punishing its perceived enemies, both of which Mr. Trump has repeatedly vowed to do. All Americans, regardless of their party or politics, should insist that the fundamental pillars of the nation's democracy including constitutional checks and balances, fair-minded federal prosecutors and judges, an impartial election system and basic civil rights be preserved against an assault that he has already begun and has said he would continue.

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At this point, there can be no illusions about who Donald Trump is and how he intends to govern. He showed us in his first term and in the years after he left office that he has no respect for the law, let alone the values, norms and traditions of democracy. As he takes charge of the world's most powerful state, he is transparently motivated only by the pursuit of power and the preservation of the cult of personality he has built around himself. These stark assessments are striking in part because they are held not just by his critics but also by those who served most closely with him.

We are a nation that has always emerged from a crucible with its ideals intact and often toughened and sharpened. The institutions of our government, hardened by nearly 250 years of disputation, turmoil, assassinations and wars, held firm when Mr. Trump assailed them four years ago. And Americans know how to counter Mr. Trump's worst instincts actions that were unjust, immoral or illegal because they did so, over and over, during his first administration. Civil servants, members of Congress, members of his own party and people he appointed to high office often stood in the way of the former president's plans, and other institutions of our society, including the free press and independent law enforcement agencies, held him accountable to the public.

Mr. Trump and his movement have all but taken over the Republican Party. Yet it is also important to remember that Mr. Trump can't run for another term. From the day he enters the White House, he will be, in effect, a lame-duck president. The Constitution limits him to two terms. Congress has the power and for some ambitious Republicans, perhaps the political incentive to set a course away from Mr. Trump's antidemocratic agenda, if it chooses to pursue it.

Governors and legislatures across the nation have spent months shoring up their state laws and Constitutions to protect civil rights and liberties, including access to reproductive and gender-affirming health care. Even states that voted overwhelmingly for Mr. Trump, including Kentucky, Ohio and Kansas, have rejected the most extreme positions on abortion. Other institutions of American civil society will play a crucial role in challenging the Trump administration in the courts, in our communities and in the protests that are sure to return.

The rest of the world, too, has no illusions about the leader who will soon again represent the United States on the world stage. The countries of the NATO alliance were shocked, during the first Trump administration, by his willingness to undermine that long and valuable partnership. But European nations, defying Mr. Trump's predictions, not only came together with the United States in the face of Russia's invasion of Ukraine but also expanded their ranks right up to Russia's border.

For the Democratic Party, rear-guard action as the political opposition will not be enough. The party must also take a hard look at why it lost the election. It took too long to recognize that President Biden was not capable of running for a second term. It took too long to recognize that large swaths of Democrats' progressive agenda were alienating voters, including some of the most loyal supporters of their party. And Democrats have struggled for three elections now to settle on a persuasive message that resonates with Americans from both parties who have lost faith in the system which pushed skeptical voters toward the more obviously disruptive figure, even though a large majority of Americans acknowledge his serious faults. If the Democrats are to effectively oppose Mr. Trump, it must be not just through resisting his worst impulses but also by offering a vision of what they would do to improve the lives of all Americans and respond to anxieties that people have about the direction of the country and how they would change it.

The test for members of this new Congress will begin soon after they take their oath. The president-elect has promised to surround himself in his second term with enablers prepared to pledge loyalty to him, who will be willing to do whatever he commands. But a president needs the Senate to approve many of those appointments. Senators can stop the most extreme or unqualified candidates from taking cabinet positions like defense secretary and attorney general, as well as seats on the Supreme Court and the federal bench. They can act to keep clearly unfit candidates from holding any powerful position. The Senate did that in 2020, when it blocked Mr. Trump's attempts to seat unqualified people on the board of the Federal Reserve, and the chamber should not hesitate to do so again.

Perhaps the most important responsibility lies with all of those who will serve in a second Trump administration. Those he appoints as attorney general, as secretary of defense and to other top leadership roles should expect that he may ask them to carry out illegal acts or violate their oaths to the Constitution on his behalf, as he did in his first term. We urge them to recognize that whatever pledge of loyalty he may demand, their first loyalty is to their country. Standing up to Mr. Trump is possible, and it is the duty of every American public servant when appropriate.

But the final responsibility for ensuring the continuity of America's enduring values lies with its voters. Those who supported Mr. Trump in this election should closely observe his conduct in office to see if it matches their hopes and expectations, and if it does not, they should make their disappointment known and cast votes in the 2026 midterms and in 2028 to put the country back on course. Those who opposed him should not hesitate to raise alarms when he abuses his power, and if he attempts to use government power to retaliate against critics, the world will be watching.

Benjamin Franklin famously admonished the American people that the nation was "a republic, if you can keep it. " Mr. Trump's election poses a grave threat to that republic, but he will not determine the long-term fate of American democracy. That outcome remains in the hands of the American people. It is the work of the next four years.

Donald Trump, gazing through his Mar-a-Lardo boudoir peep-hole last night:

[EihTooms]

The consensus is this election is definitive proof that 2020 was stolen.

The American people would never fire Trump in 2020 and then turn around reelect him 4 years later (with almost 5 million more votes than the ho) after all the drama of the last 4 years.

Its extremely obvious he won in 2020 just like he did in 2016 and 2024.

BTW where the fuck is that worthless piece of shit Pelosi that helped push Scumbag Joe on the tracks??

Let me guess, it was illegal immigrants voting for Biden in 2020 that allowed him to "steal the election". You know, the ones who the Dems let in "for their votes," right?

But somehow, mysteriously and magically, after letting in millions more immigrants over the past 3 1/2 years supposedly so they can vote for Dems, every one of them amongst a 19% decline in Dem voter turnout, decided to vote for Trump?

Lolol. Well thought out. Who were you having these conversations with? The same Loony MAGAs who think the Stock Market is at an all-time low, the unemployment rate is at an all-time high and that Americans routinely drop off their sons at school and pick them up later as daughters?

[MarquisdeSade1]

I love you too Marquis.

Didn't your man crush Oliver get less votes than RFK that begged people not to vote for him and dropped out of the race several months ago LMFAO.