Bangkok Reports

[Expat American]

There are basically two types of "girl friendly" hotels. Those which allow you to bring as many girls and as often as you wish for no charge. (If they are not registered, they may require the girls to leave their ID's at the reception desk.) The other type is "friendly for a fee". Even if you have book a room for two people, unregistered visitors will be required to pay a "joiner" fee. I first ran into that at the Ambassador Hotel in 1976.) A few years ago, I made email inquiry with the Westin and it advised that it had a 500 baht joiner fee. I would suggest emailing a specific hotel as to their policy. It's free to ask. ..

I have stayed many times at the Westin and have never been bothered by anyone as I walked up to the room with a girl. It may be their stated policy but certainly never been enforced every time I stayed there.

[Member #4813]

I don't know the club, but I don't understand why you don't simply drop in if you're so curious? Some months ago I stopped by all sex-looking shops on that soi one afternoon. Maybe Christie's too, though I can't remember it as the only place I found anyone I liked was at Princess massage. If it's a hostess kind of place it was probably not yet open.

Anyway, on that soi you would be very unlikely to find any "regular girls going out for a few drinks and some fun".

I was in Christie's briefly one evening last year. I am not good at discerning the nuances of the Thai sex scene (which is why I read the ISG). There were men and women, well dressed, standing around having drinks. It all looked fairly innocent and not P4 P so I left.

I ask here because I realize now that if I had invested a few hours of my time, I might have left the club feeling differently. But my time in BKK is limited to 10 days a year. I hate the idea of wasting an evening only to discover that the bar I had chosen was exclusively for social gathering and drinking. Your point about Soi33 (a red light district) being an unlikely hang out for "regular girls" is well taken. If anyone has experience at this club, please share it. If not, I may take one for the team

[Nyezhov]

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[11Bravo]

Landed at "Swampy". Deplane, hmmmm, all these escalators I DON'T remember. Follow the signs, down to a train. Ah, new for me, the satellite terminal. Good news is, the train opens in front of immigration. Pay attention to the "routers", not as efficient as the PRC, but still they are working to level the lines. I get routed to the FAR right, past the Thai lanes. Line moves quick; follow the instructions on the sign above: Passport, Boarding Pass, ETA if available. Photo, fingerprints, stamped in - 2 months, on to baggage claim. Perks work, by the time I've found a cart and the correct carousel, my bags are there. Out the door, ride is waiting.

Battle Plan: First stop:

1. ATM.

Find my bank of choice, security guard in the vestibule. YES, I KNOW Bangkok is safe, but, you see, he also acts as a doorman. And YES, I can open my own doors but TIT, I enjoy the service. I appreciate the courtesy, he has a salary; win-win in my book.

Full disclosure: That security guard DOES come in handy. Insert my card, waiting for prompt, ATM beeps, ejects card. Am I at the correct ATM, international? Guard motions me to try again, and THIS time, I don't wait for the PIN prompt, I just enter. NOW, TIT, the ATM gives me the language choice. I have a full wallet and the guard can go home and tell about the dumb farang who can't use an ATM. Jet-lag. Thank the guard, and I'm off to:

2. Sky Train (I'm too old to change terms).

Line up to top up my Rabbit card (and to ensure it's still valid). It is, top upped, and I'm half-mobile. Next:

3. MRT.

Given the Rabbit card is still valid, and I know the MRT card still has a large balance, I'll roll the dice and just try in the gate. Gate opens, I'm fully mobile, and it's on to:

4. MTW.

And to the Boo Birds, YES, I DO fly half-way around the world to visit the MTW. Traditions to be kept, and respects to be made. Up the middle stairway, turn left, the white facade, and... it's not the MTW. WTF?!?! Padlocked door. Can it be, after DECADES, has the MTW gone the way of the SOL? Fortuitously, I decide to take the last stairway down, CONTINUE on, and a number of bars later, THERE is the white facade I am expecting. One lady sitting out front. The universe snaps back to correctness. Open the door, walk in, the older heavyset mamasan who I know and like is there. She recognizes me, says hello, long time, and I pull up a stool to the bar. Check the prices of the refreshments and the refreshments, grab a beer. She says she'll turn on the A/C, I say fan sufficient, but she insists. She starts the GOOD tunes going (my generation), and we have a nice chat while a couple of refreshments are vying for my attention. A salute to the departed. A dark and cool bar, a cold beer, great sounds, and the A/C is not the only thing that is blowing... Given the jet-lag, an easy compromise: no rugby scrum but didn't bother to choose between the two, parallel processing. Finished, paid the tab, and on to:

5. Dunkin.

And YES, I do fly half-way around the world for some Dunkin Donuts. Nothing like a cream-filled Bavarian (this is not Germany, shame) along with a spicy Thai omelet for breakfast; makes getting up in the morning worthwhile. Short walk over to the shop. It's buy 6, get 6 free - what a deal. From there, it's on to:

6. Sim card.

Try Terminal 21, but, first glitch, the shop is closed. Memory leads me to Emporium, but given I don't have a sim card, no directions. Not a problem. After a binary search with the help of some friendly Thais, find the DTAC office. Card bought, inserted, and now have full comm. Next stop:

7. Cheers.

Time for some liquid refreshments on the RTB. Walk into the restaurant, sit at the counter, and the waitress, even after a year, remembers me, BIG smile and greeting, knows my order. Like I say, it's "Cheers", don't have to say a word. Re-hydrated, it's on to:

8. Ice Cream.

And now, after a string of successes, it's a crash and burn. &Ampersand is gone, the shop being refurbished for another use. DAMN. Shades of "Melt Me", the chocolate shop.

And as to future business, QED. My two lead-off hitters I keep in contact with throughout the year, so they're a done deal. Next in the batting order is somewhere but says she'll be back in a few days. And sadly, with the clean-up hitter, comm has been lost; I don't keep in contact with her until I'm in country. Will try at her office but doesn't surprise me she's moved on.

Bangkok, Same Same but Different.

[Captain Solo]

Must be a good date for you to spend that much time and money with that FIWFANS girl.

I found a few very nice, very beautiful and personable English-speaking FF girls, good company on the town. They act more like real humans unlike bar girls. One wants 5,000 TB for 5-hour dinner date. Her main concern was to pay 1,500 TB for the room.

You think long dates with FF girls are better than with bar girls?

Recently I did something I said I would never do. I went to see a Fiw Fans girl for more than ST. This particular girl just had something about her that I wanted. A certain appeal that looked elusive for a westerner. That made me want her even more. The booking went pretty smooth. You can get 1 hour for 1500 Baht, but I chose the 5 hour option for 4900 Baht for unlimited pops. I got the usual questions from the booking agent about dick size, but again, it went pretty smooth.

The hotel is a new and clean 3 star hotel in the area of Changwattana. Meaning the rooms are brand new and the hotel rooms are also modern and clean. She greeted me at the door in the black sexy negligee I requested and we sat down for a quick chat in Thai. She is half Chinese and says she is from Bangkok, but I am thinking more like Laos or Udon Thani. Then off to separate showers.

Now onto the bed where she began a nice slow BBBJ. I was really enjoying this and she kept going. Normally, I don't want to cum like this , but heck, I have 5 hours so who cares. I then let myself fall under her spell and let her finish me. She took it all in her mouth, but then ran to bathroom to spit as expected.

We then chatted more about life and bullshit while I played with her titis to get hard again. Then I went in for some DATY. She tasted good and I wanted to see if I could make her cum. However, like some of these types of girls, they never had this before so they get uncomfortable and complain it tickles. She was wet though so I moved up for some action in mish. I started to put it in bare and she said condom. I said wait a minute. Right next to the bed on the table was the 4900 Baht I had paid her already. I simply went over to grab another 4000 Baht from my bag and put it on the table with the original payment. Then just climbed back on the bed and said ok ? She didn't say a word and just grabbed my cock and put it inside. She was dam tight and it felt amazing. We fucked in mish for about 10 minutes and then she climbed on top and rode me. This time she was able to cum and let me know she did if you know what I mean. Then I flipped her over into doggy and finished that way. What a gorgeous ass.

At this point, I was spent, but I wanted more of that ass. I suggested we order some food, but she asked if we could go out. I said what about your other customers? She said she will cancel. So off we went to central for some MK. It was nice to chill a bit and it gave me some time to recover.

Now back at the room and we showered together this time and back on the bed. Nice slow blow job again and more fucking in all positions. Alas, I could not finish a third time.

We said our goodbyes after a quick shower and I was off. She messages me every once in a while, but I tell her I am busy. This is one three day rule I wont break and that's why I reduced it to the one day rule if you know what I mean. Dangerous for me and too many other conquests.

For my boy Etooms, this is what I do to get the BBFSCIP I want. I try my best not to give them a reason to say no. Basically making an offer it is hard for them to refuse. I have a kind of intuition on what the right number would be to offer. This is in the cases where I have no rapport with them from a night drinking in the bar. Similar to a Thai Friendly hook up or an FL from Thermae or an oily or soapie girl.

ET out.

[BigSniffer]

I would NEVER support a business that does not pay its girls, this is not what this community is about.

Unfortunately, this is the way that Thais do business. Everything they do is built on exploitation and abuse and that's why this country is the way it is. I'm not sure about the gogo bar scene but I'm sure there's a similar level of exploitation in other massage parlours where the girls are not their own boss.

[11Bravo]

I would NEVER support a business that does not pay its girls, this is not what this community is about.

Agree wholeheartedly. Patronizing establishments that rip-off their employees is only one step removed from the actual rip-off.

I always ask myself if the situation was reversed, how would I like it.

[Sam Sanuk]

Thank to you for the support and guidance. I am looking forward to the trip. Are the hotels like.

Ramada / Novotel girls friendly, or should I be looking for something else.

There are basically two types of "girl friendly" hotels. Those which allow you to bring as many girls and as often as you wish for no charge. (If they are not registered, they may require the girls to leave their ID's at the reception desk.) The other type is "friendly for a fee". Even if you have book a room for two people, unregistered visitors will be required to pay a "joiner" fee. I first ran into that at the Ambassador Hotel in 1976.) A few years ago, I made email inquiry with the Westin and it advised that it had a 500 baht joiner fee. I would suggest emailing a specific hotel as to their policy. It's free to ask. .

Sam.

[LuvChicas]

Unfortunately I posted this in the Phuket thread but I need to know this about Bangkok also. I used to be a frequent traveler to Thailand a long time ago at one point of time they had plenty of chicks from East Africa working the stroll I guess my question is do they still have African women working the stroll in Bangkok.

YES! : CHAI! If you ever return, hope you get to enjoy your chocolate.

[Nyezhov]

Unfortunately I posted this in the Phuket thread but I need to know this about Bangkok also. I used to be a frequent traveler to Thailand a long time ago at one point of time they had plenty of chicks from East Africa working the stroll I guess my question is do they still have African women working the stroll in Bangkok.

Yes. Ugly ones.

[Werqweq]

So, at the risk of being trolled, I an going to repeat myself about Christie's club on Soi 33. Someone on this board must know the answer to this question.

Does anyone have experience with this club? Their online ad says that "Christie's Club in Bangkok is the place to go if you want to spend time with attractive Thai women in relaxed surroundings. ".

Are the girls freelance? Can they be bar fined or can one have sex with them in the club? Or are they mostly regular girls going out for a few drinks and some fun?

I don't know the club, but I don't understand why you don't simply drop in if you're so curious? Some months ago I stopped by all sex-looking shops on that soi one afternoon. Maybe Christie's too, though I can't remember it as the only place I found anyone I liked was at Princess massage. If it's a hostess kind of place it was probably not yet open.

Anyway, on that soi you would be very unlikely to find any "regular girls going out for a few drinks and some fun".

[MwenByen]

Unfortunately I posted this in the Phuket thread but I need to know this about Bangkok also. I used to be a frequent traveler to Thailand a long time ago at one point of time they had plenty of chicks from East Africa working the stroll I guess my question is do they still have African women working the stroll in Bangkok.

[EverythingThai]

Recently I did something I said I would never do. I went to see a Fiw Fans girl for more than ST. This particular girl just had something about her that I wanted. A certain appeal that looked elusive for a westerner. That made me want her even more. The booking went pretty smooth. You can get 1 hour for 1500 Baht, but I chose the 5 hour option for 4900 Baht for unlimited pops. I got the usual questions from the booking agent about dick size, but again, it went pretty smooth.

The hotel is a new and clean 3 star hotel in the area of Changwattana. Meaning the rooms are brand new and the hotel rooms are also modern and clean. She greeted me at the door in the black sexy negligee I requested and we sat down for a quick chat in Thai. She is half Chinese and says she is from Bangkok, but I am thinking more like Laos or Udon Thani. Then off to separate showers.

Now onto the bed where she began a nice slow BBBJ. I was really enjoying this and she kept going. Normally, I don't want to cum like this , but heck, I have 5 hours so who cares. I then let myself fall under her spell and let her finish me. She took it all in her mouth, but then ran to bathroom to spit as expected.

We then chatted more about life and bullshit while I played with her titis to get hard again. Then I went in for some DATY. She tasted good and I wanted to see if I could make her cum. However, like some of these types of girls, they never had this before so they get uncomfortable and complain it tickles. She was wet though so I moved up for some action in mish. I started to put it in bare and she said condom. I said wait a minute. Right next to the bed on the table was the 4900 Baht I had paid her already. I simply went over to grab another 4000 Baht from my bag and put it on the table with the original payment. Then just climbed back on the bed and said ok ? She didn't say a word and just grabbed my cock and put it inside. She was dam tight and it felt amazing. We fucked in mish for about 10 minutes and then she climbed on top and rode me. This time she was able to cum and let me know she did if you know what I mean. Then I flipped her over into doggy and finished that way. What a gorgeous ass.

At this point, I was spent, but I wanted more of that ass. I suggested we order some food, but she asked if we could go out. I said what about your other customers? She said she will cancel. So off we went to central for some MK. It was nice to chill a bit and it gave me some time to recover.

Now back at the room and we showered together this time and back on the bed. Nice slow blow job again and more fucking in all positions. Alas, I could not finish a third time.

We said our goodbyes after a quick shower and I was off. She messages me every once in a while, but I tell her I am busy. This is one three day rule I wont break and that's why I reduced it to the one day rule if you know what I mean. Dangerous for me and too many other conquests.

For my boy Etooms, this is what I do to get the BBFSCIP I want. I try my best not to give them a reason to say no. Basically making an offer it is hard for them to refuse. I have a kind of intuition on what the right number would be to offer. This is in the cases where I have no rapport with them from a night drinking in the bar. Similar to a Thai Friendly hook up or an FL from Thermae or an oily or soapie girl.

ET out.

[Nyezhov]

I understand about western women and couples picking up Thai girls. But I have never seen any westerners other than Eastern European and African women working there. In fact, I have picked up two Ukranian girls several years ago from the Grace Hotel coffee house.

I would be curious to know if there are any Indian or Sri Lankan women working there. You would see a lot of them working in Singapore, especially near Little India.

I have had several African women in Kenya and Tanzania, so there is no interest for me to pick them up from BKK.

The Grace was over 10 years ago. That scene is long gone.

[NicFrenchy]

The higher priced girls are often younger, less jaded. I've met many who had been working for 2 months+ without getting paid because they hated seeing men so much they only come to work once a week LOL.
I'm sure there are girls that come to work once or twice and never come back. So these establishments essentially got a girl to sell her body for free.

I would NEVER support a business that does not pay its girls, this is not what this community is about.