Sao Paulo Reports

[The Cane]

Sorry for making you upset. BTW, it might be time for you to travel to Brazil again to calm down. Can you tell how many years since you last came here?

I'm not upset. I'm just telling it like it is. And you're so predictable. By the way you yourself have had long bouts when you weren't in Brazil. But I guess that's OK if it's you? I have had a very busy and diverse travel schedule. Fifty countries on 5 continents. People should have learned by now not to underestimate me. I have big stuff coming. Big! I'll let my actions speak for themselves. Watch and wait and see.

[Combo]

The only one here who seems to be upset is you. You say "to each is own" only after harshly criticizing those mongers who enjoy luxe environments. You call them "newbies" even though many of them have been mongering and posting for years. There was a time when Altobomgosto was the only one who was posting in this thread. It's 1,000 times better now. Why? Because back then we were getting only one guy's opinions on Sao Paulo. One guy's biased opinions! He would always say you were overpaying if you went to the nightclubs because the girls in the clinicas looked as good. If they did then the clinicas would be first choice, but to me and many others they don't. He talked up the clinicas. Well, I went to the clinicas and was a little disappointed as the girls absolutely did not look as good. Saw one girl so fat she literally had to turn sideways to get through the door! I went to one clinica he described as nice, but I thought it was kind of dumpy. One man. One (biased) opinion!

In short, it's a good idea to play in both leagues if you can time and money wise. We should stop criticizing and condemning others for their decisions on this and how they choose to spend their own money. Focus on you and what makes you happy versus on somebody else and what makes you unhappy. This thread is so much better and far more useful than it used to be when Altobomgosto was posting because we have the benefit of many more views and opinions. Budget mongers and big spenders. The notion that somebody is "ruining the market" is bullshit! Especially in a place like Brazil where there are so many markets to operate in. I honestly say to each his own. And keep on mongering!

I'm assuming that Sperto lives in or spends a large portion of the year in Brasil. It's a completely different dynamic for someone like him that has lots of time on the ground. They are going to make connections with women that the typical hobbyist can't. They likely will have no need to spend a lot of money at spots like Scandallo because they already know tons of attractive local women.

But for the guy who is in town for a week or two a year, the convenience/quality of experience at Scandallo, Casarao, Bomboa et al is hard to beat. As are the Clinicas during the day.

[Turgid]

People should just accept that there are high rollers who visit P4P establishments. The mongering world does not discriminate and is available for all adult men who want to participate.

[WyattEarp]

The only one here who seems to be upset is you. You say "to each is own" only after harshly criticizing those mongers who enjoy luxe environments. You call them "newbies" even though many of them have been mongering and posting for years. There was a time when Altobomgosto was the only one who was posting in this thread. It's 1,000 times better now. Why? Because back then we were getting only one guy's opinions on Sao Paulo. One guy's biased opinions! He would always say you were overpaying if you went to the nightclubs because the girls in the clinicas looked as good. If they did then the clinicas would be first choice, but to me and many others they don't. He talked up the clinicas. Well, I went to the clinicas and was a little disappointed as the girls absolutely did not look as good. Saw one girl so fat she literally had to turn sideways to get through the door! I went to one clinica he described as nice, but I thought it was kind of dumpy. One man. One (biased) opinion!

Some people seem to forget that Altobomgosto's made his money taking guys on clinica tours. This was where ABG could be a big, big help to newbies or guys who just liked it laid out for them. He might have also had some deal with specific clinicas.

If I remember correctly, ABG was a paid sponsor so the moderators allowed him leeway as basically a clinica spokesperson. It wasn't a big deal if you picked up on his bias. One time he got a bit aggressive arguing for the clinicas. I'm fairly certain the mod told him to dial it down.

This walk down recent memory lane has a relevant point. New members should take in a lot of opinions when deciding their itineraries. Some experienced members will be very helpful and engage with your style of travel.

[Sperto]

Well, I went to the clinicas...

Sorry for making you upset. BTW, it might be time for you to travel to Brazil again to calm down. Can you tell how many years since you last came here?

[The Cane]

Just sharing my opinion. Better not reading if you don't want to get upset.

Since Altobomgosto left us I never spent more than one minute updating on the Sao Paulo thread. To me it seems like reading a thread from another country. All these short-time travellerers spending big money telling how they got fantastic sex and BBBJ from a girl at Scandallo at a cost of 1-2 months salaries. I don't mind as every one spending their money as they want. On the opposite, lets put all the big spenders, who save up for their short holiday, in one place without ruining the game for other mongers.

I understand these newbies big spenders way of thinking. They pay an absurd amount of money and think they get the best quality. However when buying pussy in Brazil, price isn't equal to quality. That's awful to hear, isn't it? Spending all that absurd money and listen to somebody telling that they are throwing away their money. Not to forget, the few photos of Scandallo girls that have been posted are nothing remarkable.

My remarks has nothing to do with budgets. Most of us could spend big box on pussy, but I would feel like an *diot paying 2 months salaries just to stick my dick in a p*ssy.

I do enjoy go clubbing in high-end clubs, but not with h**ckers. To me it's like dressings pigs in nice clothes imaging I'm getting laid because of my big charm.

Whatever, to each their own. Have fun!

The only one here who seems to be upset is you. You say "to each is own" only after harshly criticizing those mongers who enjoy luxe environments. You call them "newbies" even though many of them have been mongering and posting for years. There was a time when Altobomgosto was the only one who was posting in this thread. It's 1,000 times better now. Why? Because back then we were getting only one guy's opinions on Sao Paulo. One guy's biased opinions! He would always say you were overpaying if you went to the nightclubs because the girls in the clinicas looked as good. If they did then the clinicas would be first choice, but to me and many others they don't. He talked up the clinicas. Well, I went to the clinicas and was a little disappointed as the girls absolutely did not look as good. Saw one girl so fat she literally had to turn sideways to get through the door! I went to one clinica he described as nice, but I thought it was kind of dumpy. One man. One (biased) opinion!

And what do you mean two months pay? If you go to Scandallo and pay a girl 1,200 reals that's like around $200. How is that two months pay? You have to also pay for the room but adding that in still doesn't amount to two months pay. You have the consumable charge, but that isn't paid to stick your dick in some pussy. It's paid to enjoy the food and drink offered by the establishment in a luxe environment, sometimes with a live band. People who go to a place like a Scandallo (and the other nightclubs) aren't just a bunch of "overpaying newbies". They are people who have tastes different from your own, and the budgets to satisfy said tastes. If you really believed in "to each his own" then you would save your harsh criticisms and do more "live and let live". Altobomgosto's cherished clinicas have their place. The price is right, and you can find some cuties. But they're in a different kind of league. I call it the "day league", and it's certainly worth playing in. But so is the "night league" if you have the coin and the inclination.

In short, it's a good idea to play in both leagues if you can time and money wise. We should stop criticizing and condemning others for their decisions on this and how they choose to spend their own money. Focus on you and what makes you happy versus on somebody else and what makes you unhappy. This thread is so much better and far more useful than it used to be when Altobomgosto was posting because we have the benefit of many more views and opinions. Budget mongers and big spenders. The notion that somebody is "ruining the market" is bullshit! Especially in a place like Brazil where there are so many markets to operate in. I honestly say to each his own. And keep on mongering!

[The Critic]

See Rio thread for the Girlfriend part of the sandwich with Manu. And quite an improvised bonus night at 4 x4 and other clubs.

But now it's back to So Paulo for the other half of the buffet. Going to be a strict diet of Scandallo and Casarao for me. By now I've connected w some other ISG guys and it's a larger crew, mixed with their regulars and new girls we are finding.

Good reports, looks like you had a great time. Look forward to your next adventures.

[Steve 9696]

He wrote 1000 to 1200 and that is what most girls will accept these days.

FA.

It's like they have figured out the perfect price discrimination system. Economists would be proud.

57 Friends 300 = 1X.

Casarao 600 = 2X.

Scandallo 1200 = 4X.

Of course there is a bit of play upward or downward at Scan and Cas. But it's nominally as above.

[Steve 9696]

See Rio thread for the Girlfriend part of the sandwich with Manu. And quite an improvised bonus night at 4 x4 and other clubs.

But now it's back to So Paulo for the other half of the buffet. Going to be a strict diet of Scandallo and Casarao for me. By now I've connected w some other ISG guys and it's a larger crew, mixed with their regulars and new girls we are finding.

Back at Scandallo, Brenda chats me up on the patio and she's vivacious and slim and darker like I prefer. After some good chat we hit the room and have a good time. By now my bar is so high that if it's not exceptional I don't remember it. She was very good and a nice girl but others have stood out more. No regrets.

In case you haven't noticed I like to take two or three girls a night. So it's back out into the crush to find my next love. Of course I do a lot of buffet shopping but eventually settle on a model tall and pretty girl who becomes my Boate wife a bit for a couple nights.

Her name is Lua and she is super lean and fit doing ballet. And a truly nice girl. We do very well in the room together. Very passionate and romantic. I will also give her extra credit for dancing with me. I dance like a fool when lit and she joins me right in front of the stage and we have a grand time.

Next night, Lua and I want to have dinner together. Honestly logistically it's easiest to just do that there at the club and the food is excellent. It's a lovely time and the salmon is some of the best I've had in years. As can be a problem when you know multiple girls there, Maria from earlier this year is eye fucking me while I have dinner with Lua. Hahaha. Oh well another time.

Tonight one of the guys has booked an upstairs booth so we can relax above the crush but still be a part of it. My girl Lua joins me and it's nice and casual to just be partying without any pressure. But to be honest she feels more like a buddy tonight where last night we would passionately make out in the club and tonight it's just pecks. I've learned over time to deal with this type of thing head on so I do.

I key into the translator that it seems our chemistry is gone and she is not romantic with me and should we find other partners. Well that does the trick because she keys in that she wants to be with me and plants some passionate DFK on me. We have great tongue chemistry and her kisses are wonderful.

Shortly, we are at the rail overlooking the action and I am crushed up against her, dick growing hard, with hands roaming. As it should be! She keys in "Do you want to fuck now or in a little bit". Well that is hard to say no to. And she adds "I want to cum twice". Ok Sexy's back on!

In the room it's another great time (and she does cum twice!) but as much as I like her, there is a rotating buffet of hotties and I don't really want to skip that. So as we are leaving the room, I am a bit direct again and say that I know she is working and it's ok if she wants to roam and I will do the same. I feel a bit bad but heck it's the best girl buffet in the world. I find it very hard to get locked up with only one.

So I roam a bit more but run into her again. It's nice to see her and she is enjoying the DJ so much. Just totally in the moment so I join in and we really do have fun. Epic show.

I want to find another girl but Lua and I were quite close so it feels a bit awkward. So why not bounce over to Casarao with one of the crew as a wing. Casarao is packed as usual at 2 and towards the front I find myself next to two cuties who are def working as a team. Priscilla, the experienced one, positions on my right and Sabrina, just barely 20, with braces, on my left. It's Sabrina's first day and honestly it is so endearing.

Priscilla drives the negotiation and I am honestly quite wary because duos are bi polar. Awesome or suck. We agree 500 each girl and I am quite clear on expectations and off we go. We have to wait like 20 minutes for a room which is not uncommon this time of night. But then it's on and it's spectacular. They deliver the true dupla. Both girls on BJ at the same time. One on balls the other shaft. Or side by side in a coordinated BJ sandwich. Sooo good. And when it's not that, one is BJ and other is DFK. Just mind blowing when a dupla is done right.

In the course of the session I fuck them both, with a condom change in between. Honestly fucking the little bird Sabrina in mish is heavenly. Most girls close their eyes. But she is full on liquid chocolate eye contact throughout. Loooove that. Almost blow a load it's so great but don't.

To finish I put them side by side masturbating. And Jack off on my knees. I feel a little bad because Priscilla is working hard but my eyes are 100% on Sabrina. She's got what Bluemoon and I call God Pussy. Like a work of art. And she's working it hard. It's so amazing I bless her with a load on the sheets. Ahhhh. Great session.

So now it's the final day and at this point you are surely thinking. Jesus what is wrong with this man? Has he not fucked enough? Well yes. Any man should be satisfied with 13 girls in the rearview, including two trifectas and a rare quad. And indeed I am beyond satisfied. But I am also an opportunist and I can't just leave hot girls unfucked as they await me mere miles away!

So I am again meeting up with the guys tonight at Scandallo. But damn I am totally smitten with Sabrina. So after I wake around 11 I text her and see if she will have lunch with me. She responds right away and it's on!

We go to a nice Italian place nearby. And then back to the room. She's worn her slutty Boate dress and heels and looks absolutely amazing. Lunch is a tad awkward as 20 year olds are not known to be conversationalists and of course she knows no english. We make do with my Porto and bounce to the hotel.

(Side note. Mercure hotels all seem to just ignore you when you bring girls. Because this is clearly a paid girl, based on how she's dressed, and there are three crew at the desk and no one even glances over. Same at all Mercures I've been to).

She's a little shy and quite light kisses at first. But once we get to grinding and some tits work she comes alive and eats my face. She's got a hot little body and god pussy. I spend prob 20 minutes on DATY and get lots of shivers and coos and one time think I was nearly there as she starts to squirm quite a lot; but damn couldn't quite rock her world. Def tried.

Then it's onto BJ and fucking and the usual. Fucking in mish is absolutely wonderful with her and the eye contact. But no dice shooting a load in mish with the condom. Eventually on my back with her attentively on balls I shoot out a really nice shot. And she's just a sweet girl. We had a truly nice and caring date and I send her on her way.

The crew is having a big fiesta at Scandallo tonight so that will be my last hurrah. I will likely only fuck one girl as I am just about fucked out. So I hang with the guys for quite a bit but then T and I go on patrol.

In the restaurant the girls often line up against the servers bar on the right as you come in. There aren't many there so T and I co-opt it and this is the perfect place to watch girls parade in. I've clearly seen 100+ girls so far tonight but all of a sudden one lights me up that total fireworks thing. Damn. In love from minute 1.

She takes a table with a friend and we wait a bit but I don't want to move on and lose her so I go over and introduce myself. She's gorgeous in person and bubbly and she is glad I've sought her out. Her name is Nathal I and she is 100% my dream girl. We agree she will come find me in a bit so me and T return to the booth we have with the other guys in the club area.

One of the guys has a little Japa hottie he's been shacking up with and her friend Sarah is with her. They make some space for me to sit next to Sarah and it's clear she has designs on me or my wallet or both.

We honestly have the best time. She has pretty good English, a banging body and just a hair off my type. As we chat away Nathali, from the restaurant, shows at the edge of the booth and casually eye fucks me. Damn I want that girl bad; but here I am locked up with Sarah who is super sweet and def running her game.

It would be rude to ditch Sarah particularly given her full court press. Because shortly we are making out. And when just chatting she is casually rubbing my dick. I mean like constantly for a half hour. And Nathali keeps coming over and positioning and eye fucking me a bit. She's def still interested.

Eventually I take Sarah to the room and it's really good. She reminds me of Manu. Very girlfriendy. You feel like a million bucks with her so no regrets. And we BJ and fuck forever but yep the old soldier is fading. We call it at the 52 minute mark and shower up. Oh well. Was a great time and really enjoyed her.

As we are leaving the room I pop a precautionary Cialis 10 as I hadn't today and started flagging with Sarah. You just never know what might come your way!

I head back to the booth but it's deserted with the guys all in rooms or already taken a girl to their hotel. It's maybe midnight or 12:30. I hang for a bit to see if Sarah is coming back and guess who shows up a minute later. Nathali! Omfg that girl is fire! I don't want to run into Sarah so I take Nathali by the hand and go to the patio (unfortunately going right past Sarah on the way!

On the patio I confirm she is my dream girl. The chemistry is amazing. Her eyes glisten as she looks deeply into mine. He smile comes easily and is dazzling. And then of course DFK to die for. And I discover her tits are clearly gorgeous Dee cup. Finest of the trip. T had called this from afar when I first pointed her out, but I was so enamored with her face I didn't notice till now. Def my girl 💯.

Up in the room she does not disappoint. She sheds her clothes quickly and is on the bed dancing naked before I've undone a button. Then she's in Quattro with her ass facing me. Twerking her pussy at me. This girl is a fucking wildcat!

It really doesn't slow down from there. Normally I am a take it slow GFE guy but Nathali is delivering rockstar PSE and who am I to complain. It's sweaty aggressive sex and kissing and maybe that is what I needed. Because maybe only 20 minutes in I blow a load. Fucking magician. And a stunner to me. Dream girl.

And so it's Nathali that closes out the trip with a bang. 15 girls including 14 new. Repeated with 3 of them (Manu, Lua, Sabrina). Three trifectas and one quad.

Recommend 57 Friends for easygoing daytime fun alternative to the clinicas. Scandallo rules of course but at a price. And Casarao the late-night middle ground. Three very different places that all deliver in their own way. And of course Manu delivering the true and complete GFE in an overnight and activities way. Just a top notch trip!

[Questner]

The mystery continues. In Europe at the moment and at a rather mediocre Czech brothel met the most gorgeous Brazilian I have seen in ages. 100 Euro for an hour of full GFE fun (there was an extra charge for CBJ but that is the norm there).

So why can I not get that in So Paulo?

Sigh.

FA.

If money is the issue and you have to be in Sampa then search your beauties in places where regular Brazilians go. There are thousands of providers and dozens of places where to look for them.

Since money is the issue for the vast majority of BM here one way or the other, then my suggestion is to be in Rio. Rio is the second agglomeration by GDP in Brazil. Economic research and my experience prove that on the price / value / availability this second area by GDP in each country in many cases is the best choice for this hobby.

[The Cane]

He wrote 1000 to 1200 and that is what most girls will accept these days.

FA.

Yes he did. I'm busy as hell at the moment and only glanced quickly at his report. That pricing matches up with what I would consider fair. A fair price for a good fuck!

[Sperto]

Just sharing my opinion. Better not reading if you don't want to get upset.

Since Altobomgosto left us I never spent more than one minute updating on the Sao Paulo thread. To me it seems like reading a thread from another country. All these short-time travellerers spending big money telling how they got fantastic sex and BBBJ from a girl at Scandallo at a cost of 1-2 months salaries. I don't mind as every one spending their money as they want. On the opposite, lets put all the big spenders, who save up for their short holiday, in one place without ruining the game for other mongers.

I understand these newbies big spenders way of thinking. They pay an absurd amount of money and think they get the best quality. However when buying pussy in Brazil, price isn't equal to quality. That's awful to hear, isn't it? Spending all that absurd money and listen to somebody telling that they are throwing away their money. Not to forget, the few photos of Scandallo girls that have been posted are nothing remarkable.

My remarks has nothing to do with budgets. Most of us could spend big box on pussy, but I would feel like an *diot paying 2 months salaries just to stick my dick in a p*ssy.

I do enjoy go clubbing in high-end clubs, but not with h**ckers. To me it's like dressings pigs in nice clothes imaging I'm getting laid because of my big charm.

Whatever, to each their own. Have fun!

[RamDavidson84]

Just putting the finishing touches on the report for my 7 day 15 girl extravaganza spread across So Paulo and Rio. A few key takeaways for the curious.

Scandallo remains best club on planet earth. Incredibly luxe. Amazing girl selection. Band and DJs are world class. Food is even very very good. It is stunning in all respects. And you can easily get a great girl for 1000-1200 R for an hour. I promise.

57 Friends is an undiscovered gem if you don't like the clinica scene. Its a chill bar with a pool table and onsite rooms. Yes it's tiny. Yes there are only 5-7 girls. But they are all friendly and slim and very doable. It's a great place for some daytime fun. Probably not your only activity but I hit it twice during the week before going to pricey Scandallo. Girls here are 300 R / HR. Yes. $52 usd.

Casarao remains a great late night pick. From midnight onwards. Tons of girls. Many arguably as pretty as Scandallo but just a regular bar atmosphere of mostly locals. And at 500-600 R half the price. So def a great option as your main go to if funds restricted or as the late night option after Scan.

A helicopter ride with your girl in Rio is a must do at a modest $350 usd. Stunning and she will be forever smitten.

The Caipirinha remains an amazing drink. But only in Brasil. Have elsewhere at your own peril as they suck. But in Brazil they are great. You really must have one (but they are strong so beware).

Full report upcoming. I will post in three parts as I made a sandwich of Boate time, Girlfriend time, and Boate time.

Helicopter ride sounds awesome. Respect your style Steve. How long is the ride? Think you could "party" on the ride without the pilot noticing? Rio is on my list after my SP trip this December.

Also anyone have any experience renting a limo in Sao Paulo? From what I understand Scandallo is like 30 minutes from my hotel near the Ibeapuera Park, was thinking of maybe taking a girl out of Scandallo one night and having a limo take us back and obviously engaging in debacherous behavior in the limo.

[FernandoAlonso]

The mystery continues. In Europe at the moment and at a rather mediocre Czech brothel met the most gorgeous Brazilian I have seen in ages. 100 Euro for an hour of full GFE fun (there was an extra charge for CBJ but that is the norm there).

So why can I not get that in São Paulo?

Sigh.

FA.

[FernandoAlonso]

How much were Scandallo girls asking for an hour in-house? And what were they accepting? Did you try to negotiate at all?

He wrote 1000 to 1200 and that is what most girls will accept these days.

FA.