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  1. #43825

    What the fuck?

    All Thai girls do not prefer Asian guys

    That statement does not even sound right. If you are dealing with a prostitute. They all have their preferences. All preferences are trumped with money. The problem is that many International Tricks do not have the flow to support the stack that is needed to get the attention from the girls they want to hire to be their prostitutes.

    I am the type of guy that lets girls come to me. If a prostitute who's livelihood depends on getting guys to pay in order to have them sit on their face (as is the preference of some of the International Tricks posting up in here with tax problems) then if they cannot approach me to be their customer so be it.

    Why do people frequent places where they are not wanted? That does not make any sense to me whatsoever. If I stopped posting in the Rants section people would not be able to tell me that they did not like me or tell me to stop posting, make a big deal about putting me on ignore or various other ad hominem personal attacks. I subject myself to that abuse.

    If Soi 6 bars did not treat me right then I would keep exploring venues where I received a positive response. And some times a place is just having a bad day. Check out my experience with Kings Club. Two different visits. Two different experiences. Judging Pattaya based on Soi 6 alone is like judging ISG based on the Rants Thread. LOL!

    People don't like me saying it, but do not goto the Ferrari dealership if you are not prepared to pay Ferrari prices. Do you see me posting about top tier Agogos? No! Why? Because I am not prepared to pay the barfine and 3000 THB for short time or 5000 THB for long time. Beside I like to fuck in the establishment. I rarely bar fine. And it is not a matter of money. It is a matter of logistics. I would pay 3000 THB for short time if I could take the hot girls I like in KINK and fuck them upstairs like I can in most gentleman's clubs. It is a personal preference. I NEVER have a problem finding a Thai girl willing to allow me to blow splooge into one of her orifices for an agreed to amount of money. And yes, some are afraid of the Big Black Dick (especially on Soi 6). But that issue has not presented me with a long term problem. LOL!

    Finally, I have noticed a distinct difference in the quality of the experience I receive when I am willing to spend some money. Like bottle service. I find it to be worth every THB I spend on it. I find that I tend to get the attention of not only the girls (every single one of them wanted to be at my table) in the bar but management also. Buy mamason a drink, but also talk to her about your preferences. Go with a few friends and a 3000 - 6000 THB bottle fee is not looking so bad. You can have the Goose getting you loose for 3500 THB in Heaven Above. Includes a bucket of ice and 4 set ups.

    Holla!

  2. #43824
    Quote Originally Posted by XXL  [View Original Post]
    The racial bias in Thailand is not black vs white nor brown vs black. It's Asian vs the rest. Girls prefer Asians all else equal.
    The hierarchy is Asians, Caucasian, Arab, brown people not indians, indians and then african. My advice to black guys in Thailand is always been to have your American passport because then you won't be an African.

  3. #43823
    Quote Originally Posted by Xhunter321  [View Original Post]
    ...

    So long story short. If you are white I highly recommend Pattaya. If you are black, I think you will do better than brown but not white. If you are brown, I would suggest Bangkok over Pattaya (I did not go to bars in Bangkok so I can't say the experience will be any different that Pattaya). The average is about 2-3 k baht but for two hours and at your hotel. I talked to a few girls at nana plaza and felt no discrimination. I overheard this Korean guy talking to one girl and she ask for 2000 baht. Strangely, I didn't see white guys get as much attention in Nana. So I'm cutting my stay short in Pattaya and going back to Bangkok. I'll give more updates on Bangkok reports. I'll see what prices I can get for a slightly less pretty lady.
    The racial bias in Thailand is not black vs white nor brown vs black. It's Asian vs the rest. Girls prefer Asians all else equal.

  4. #43822

    My first time in Thailand as a hispanic guy

    I'm currently in Thailand staying for three weeks. I was in Bangkok for my first week and now in Pattaya for one week. I'm at Soi 6 and have explored the bars for three nights. The girls are stunning! Tons of girls everywhere. I see them go up to white guys walking the streets and aggressively try to pull them into the bar even grabbing their crotches. However, if you are brown you will not get that much attention. I walked the street many times and probably had two girls try to pull me in. I saw a few brown guys experience the same. Note, I'm not good looking but not super ugly either. I've never had issues getting a girlfriend so I'm maybe 4-5 looks wise. But I am brown with a pretty similar skin tone to Thai people. I went in to a few bars and asked a few girls to have drinks with. One didn't really seem interested in talking so I thanked her for keeping me company and left. Spent about 200 baht on drinks for her and I. The second girl was much friendlier but when I asked how much to go upstairs she didn't seem too keen and she asked for 3000 baht for one hour plus room rate of 400 baht and she said she needed a flight of tequila shots which I felt was pretty pricey considering how much cheaper things were in Bangkok. Not to mention she seemed uninterested when I asked about what is offered. I saw a few white guys come in while I was chatting it up with the ladies and my goodness the attention these guys got was amazing. This old white gentlemen had like 2 girls trying to get his attention. And if you are a decent looking white guy you will be a god here. The ladies will throw themselves at you. I was at a bar by myself with no one batting an eye at me and this one decent looking white dude comes in and holy fuck these girls jump on him aggressively trying to get his attention. One of the 5 girls looked at me and felt sorry and pointed at one of the other (not so pretty) girls and said you want to buy her a drink. She pulls that girl towards me and was said "you like you like". That girl just looked at me with a smug face and I smile at her and then she just leaps back at the white guy like a little kid making strange noises and biting his thigh. Honestly, I thought that shit was funny as hell. The girl that tried to help me out just shrugged and went back to to doing her thing. If you are Black I think you'll do better than brown so I would recommend for you.

    Also, I tried to find freelancers in Pattaya but didn't really get the same reception I did in Bangkok. I can't speak for white guys trying to get freelancers in Pattaya since I didn't get to witness those interactions.

    I think Bangkok is much better if you are brown. I met a freelancer in Nana plaza. Amazing experience. A beautiful, light skin (not that I care but some people do), gorgeous wide smile, dd bolt ONS (very well done), petite, spoke okay english. She came to my hotel which was 30 min away. She asked for 2000 baht 2 hours and said she would be slow. What an amazing experience, tons of laughs trying to communicate, amazing skills; revers cow girl, cow girl, missionary, and I even lifted her to pound away but but she said it hurt so ended in missionary. She was funny and jabbed me a bit on how far my hotel was which I thought was hilarious.

    So long story short. If you are white I highly recommend Pattaya. If you are black, I think you will do better than brown but not white. If you are brown, I would suggest Bangkok over Pattaya (I did not go to bars in Bangkok so I can't say the experience will be any different that Pattaya). The average is about 2-3 k baht but for two hours and at your hotel. I talked to a few girls at nana plaza and felt no discrimination. I overheard this Korean guy talking to one girl and she ask for 2000 baht. Strangely, I didn't see white guys get as much attention in Nana. So I'm cutting my stay short in Pattaya and going back to Bangkok. I'll give more updates on Bangkok reports. I'll see what prices I can get for a slightly less pretty lady.

  5. #43821

    Your time; Your money; Your dick; Your call!

    For me: A prostitute is a girl who as agreed to let me deposit my splooge within one of her orifices for a price.

    Any other International Trick posting up in here who wants to disagree with me or claim a different style is free to do so. Your time; Your money; Your dick; Your call!. I don't need to hold my prostitutes hand. Although I have done that. I don't need to take my prostitute to dinner. Although I have done that. But now I have a kik. If I am feeling lonely I just hit her up and make a date with her. She comes over or we go out. We do stuff like goto dinner, goto the movies, get a massage together. We walk all over the city. Visit entertainment establishments where her friends work. Sightsee. Check out visit points. Go shopping together. I buy her stuff on these shopping trips.

    Those that want to wife up their prostitutes, treat them like real girl friends, have them over for drinks, spend hours listening to them drone on about their problems. Have their ego boosted because they are fucking someone else's girlfriend or husband or are welcome to do so. But those same individuals should not lecture others on the dangers of hooking up with a prostitute in Thailand for more than a quick fuck (in other words, sponsorship). Because in my opinion if you are paying them and listening to their problems and licking their pussy well for me that does not add up to be a good value. Personally I am paying money to avoid all that. I got a kik for that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Explorer8939  [View Original Post]
    If you consider Pattaya ladies to be the equivalent of robot fuckers, then it doesn't matter if they have boyfriends or husbands. And if all you are interested in is a quick fuck, then of course the lady isn't going to talk to you about anything significant.

    But my style is different, I drink with the ladies, and have done so for years with some of them. They know I am not trying to be their boyfriend, and many of them have personal problems that they want to share, usually with the other ladies, but sometimes with me.

    The licking the pussy thing is to warm them up so the sex isn't so mechanical. Some of them claim their Thai boyfriend never does it. Since every lady wants it done differently, I try to remember what a lady wants, although there are so many, it's not easy to remember. Many ladies cooperate by pushing my head down when they want it harder.

    The reason I talk about their boyfriends is because of the newbies who come to Pattaya and fall in love in the first few days. Maybe a third of the ladies in my rotation have some Farang who loves them, and sends money from home. Which helps the lady afford her Thai man, since they are expensive in Pattaya.

  6. #43820
    Quote Originally Posted by Exoticspirit  [View Original Post]
    While I was waiting at the bus terminal at one point I did get a lady Grab driver accept my trip but within seconds she cancelled it. On the day of departure and ride back to the bus terminal, I did book a Grab car and he didn't have a problem dropping me off right at the platform of the terminal.
    My girl drives Bolt and does tours for foreigners. She said they can pick people up outside. If they go inside to pick up the taxi mafia will get angry. Even if there is a taxi outside at the curb they can not pick up near that taxi. She said there are signs at the bus station saying Bolt and Grab can not go inside to pick people up. Lumpini Condos in Naklua and Jomtien are the same way because they have taxi stands.

    She said one day she was picking a friend up from the bus station and a taxi guy approached her angry asking what she was doing inside. She said picking up my friend. He wanted her to open her phone to show him she was not using the app. She told him he was crazy. They have their Line and Facebook groups talking about all the shit.
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  7. #43819
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    There is a taxi mafia at the bus station so people working the ride share apps are reluctant to go there. You will find this is the case in several tourist places in Thailand.
    I have been picked up by Bolt 100's of times in the Jomtien bus station parking lot, while leaving FoodMart. Sometimes one of the yellow taxis will work for Bolt.

  8. #43818

    Well Done Mr. Spirit

    Quote Originally Posted by Exoticspirit  [View Original Post]
    Thanks to all who took the time answer my many questions this year as this is my first visit to Pattaya and as promised, I'm doing my part with this report. . . . Overall I had a great time in Pattaya but four nights is much too little. I would suggest at least a full week to check out all venues I would have liked to check out. So next stop is Bangkok which I'll write a separate report on. Hope this report is useful.
    Such a nice report from Mr. Spirit. Many thanks to him for taking the time to write it up.

  9. #43817

    Cancelled

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    There is a taxi mafia at the bus station so people working the ride share apps are reluctant to go there. You will find this is the case in several tourist places in Thailand.
    While I was waiting at the bus terminal at one point I did get a lady Grab driver accept my trip but within seconds she cancelled it. On the day of departure and ride back to the bus terminal, I did book a Grab car and he didn't have a problem dropping me off right at the platform of the terminal.

  10. #43816

    BKK to Jomtien

    Quote Originally Posted by Exoticspirit  [View Original Post]
    After landing at Bangkok airport I had two options to get to Pattaya. Either take a private taxi for 1,300 be or a bus for 190 be which is what I took. It was a nice comfortable coach bus which took me to North Pattaya bus station in about two hours. I tried to get a Grab from there but it must have been rush hour so I wasn't able to but a baht bus was moonlighting as a transfer for 50 be to central Pattaya quite close to where I was staying at The Base condos..
    There is a excellent road side stand (actually posted up in the FoodMart parking lot) that I go to often in the morning to get some grilled port on a stick and sticky rice. I get 10 sticks of grilled port and 2 servings of sticky rice for 60 THB.

    In that same complex there is the Bus Station that rolls to BKK. I have been going to my road side stand for as long as it has been opened. I have witnessed ride share service cars dropping off and picking up people all the time. They do not go into the parking lot were the taxis are located. The taxi mafia does not control the streets.

    I think Bolt is better than Grab in Pattaya.

  11. #43815
    Quote Originally Posted by Exoticspirit  [View Original Post]
    ......Overall I had a great time in Pattaya but four nights is much too little. I would suggest at least a full week to check out all venues I would have liked to check out. So next stop is Bangkok which I'll write a separate report on. Hope this report is useful.
    Four nights well spent.

  12. #43814
    Quote Originally Posted by Exoticspirit  [View Original Post]
    bus for 190 be which is what I took. It was a nice comfortable coach bus which took me to North Pattaya bus station in about two hours. I tried to get a Grab from there but it must have been rush hour so I wasn't able to
    There is a taxi mafia at the bus station so people working the ride share apps are reluctant to go there. You will find this is the case in several tourist places in Thailand.

  13. #43813

    Review On My Four Nights In Pattaya

    First thanks to all who took the time answer my many questions this year as this is my first visit to Pattaya and as promised, I'm doing my part with this report. After landing at Bangkok airport I had two options to get to Pattaya. Either take a private taxi for 1,300 be or a bus for 190 be which is what I took. It was a nice comfortable coach bus which took me to North Pattaya bus station in about two hours. I tried to get a Grab from there but it must have been rush hour so I wasn't able to but a baht bus was moonlighting as a transfer for 50 be to central Pattaya quite close to where I was staying at The Base condos. The Base which I booked through Airbnb was great as it was modern, great uniformed security out front, pool / gym and located within easy walking distance to many places.

    For food, my favourite place was minutes away at Tree Town food court where I ate most of the time with excellent Thai cuisine for 150-200 be per meal. Although there were lots of western cuisine and other ethnic restaurants like Indian, middle eastern and other Asian around, I tend to eat mostly local fare wherever I go. I didn't fly across to the other side of the world to eat at McDonalds. Other services like pharmacies and currency exchanges were plentiful.

    One thing about Pattaya and Thailand in general is that it is very busy as I'm here at the beginning of high season. Not only did I see many fellow mongers, there were lots of tour groups, seniors and even families travelling. I'm not sure why they would go to Pattaya but the mix of tourists plus locals filled the streets each night. The town's infrastructure meanwhile is not great for pedestrians as there really is a lack of sidewalks so walking around is always within inches of traffic which in itself is crazy. This I was already expecting after my trips to Vietnam and Cambodia just before arriving to Thailand (I already posted reports on them). It is also damn hot during the daytime so I mainly went out during mornings and evenings choosing to stay indoors at my condo during afternoons.

    Before we get to mongering, I'll mention that I took in a few touristy attractions that were excellent and totally worthwhile during the mornings. I went to Sanctuary Of Truth which is an incredible wooden temple like structure by the sea and also visited Pattaya Elephant Sanctuary which gave me unforgettable moments with their elephants. Both are highly recommended.

    Now to the mongering. Overall I was a bit overwhelmed by the almost unlimited choices here. Seems like each street has numerous bars and massage shops along with go go clubs and gents clubs at many streets. Then each neighborhood has multiple such streets. Then there are multiple neighborhoods like LK Metro, Soi 6 area, Beach road and Walking Street. I'll give an overview of what I saw.

    After all those online videos I had to go to Soi 6 and as expected there were lots of girls on the street. Many were aggressive and tried to pull me inside their bars. Big problem was that quite often it's not the ones that ambush me are the ones that I want to session with. But there was one who was acceptable in looks so I gave in and went along to buy her a drink but confirmed that she was available for short time upstairs. I forgot the name of her bar but I did end up sessioning with her but don't know if I overpaid. I was expecting 1500 be plus room charge of 500. My drink which was only juice and her lady drink came out to be just under 300 be I think. The room upstairs was crap, sort of like a cheap Latin American brothel room and shower was outside it in a utility room. She wanted 2000 be which I paid since this was my first session in Pattaya and she let me take a photo of us together.

    I did do another session on Soi 6 two nights later and it was a similar experience with same pricing with another girl at another small bar and except this time at least the shower was inside the bar's only two rooms they had upstairs. So even though these were much better prices than what would get in Canada, I did pay a bit more than I thought I would on Soi 6. Although the two girls I had were nice and I got full GFE with both, I considered the whole Soi 6 scene to be too loud with high volume music blasting from each bar. This made the upstairs rooms loud too and any conversations with girls downstairs were not that easy as volumes were like at nightclub levels. Still a visit to Soi 6 is a must here but I would not limit my time here on future trips.

    After Soi 6 I walked along Beach road to check out the freelancers and most were not attractive to me. There were a few gems especially closer towards Walking Street but I didn't talk to anybody there on this trip since I was limited to just four nights and knew other options were priority. Walking street was also a must see but I was not going to pull from there knowing that prices would be high here. There were many nice looking girls in front of go go clubs but in all honesty I think there were even more hot ladies at Japan Town in Ho Chi Minh City. Although there was plenty of eye candy to see here on Walking Street, it was jammed full of people. Not only mongers but clearly tons of tourists just checking the scene out. The loudness and crowds of this area made it just a one time walk through for me.

    Many areas like Tree Town, Soi Bukao and Las Vegas had lots of beer bars. Many were full what looked to me as older expats while others were almost empty. These venues were staffed with older unattractive women in my view. I don't have any issues with hot milfs but most of these ladies were not worth looking at for me.

    The other main option I wanted to check out after reading many reports and watching videos on YouTube was the gents club scene. I did check out some big names that were suggested including Maggie May's, Buzzing and Club Fate. At all of these gents clubs I pretty well walked in and right out again as I thought the women were similar to those at beer bars. The one exception was Heaven Above that had a nice mix of girls. Gents Clubs are suppose to be more laid back than Soi 6 bars but Heaven Above was not laid back. It is a hybrid gents club and go go bar playing music but not at high levels like Soi 6. Girls took turns dancing on tables so we could scope them out. This turned out well for me as I spotted a beautiful girl I liked and invited her for a drink. We did session upstairs not once but two different nights since I liked her as well as the rooms they had which were almost like hotel rooms and much less noisy. My girl was not a clock watcher and was total GFE.

    Only thing to warn about Heaven Above is that prices were slightly higher than average gents clubs. My juice and her lady drink came out to be about 300 while room rate was 550 be. She wanted 2500 but accepted 2000 be. This is a venue I would return to again.

    One thing I also wanted to do on this trip was a soapy. I had one many years ago in Bangkok before Pattaya became a monger destination. I heard that soapies in Pattaya were vastly inferior to Bangkok but I was walking distance to Honey 1 and PP Body Massage. Both had four different rate levels of girls with the first two at 2200 and 2700. I walked into both places and at these two lower price levels, all the girls were thicker than I would like. The odd slim lady which I would have accepted were at the higher price rates I was not willing to pay for. So walked out of both venues pretty fast.

    For times when places were too far to walk, I took the cheap baht bus as well as Grab motorbikes. Grab is very efficient and cheap but I was hanging on for dear life each time they go over bumps and speed up. Drivers in general both guys and girls drive like maniacs. Be aware that safety standards are quite different from the west. We see entire families on single bikes some without wearing helmets zipping in and out of traffic. This is Asia I suppose.

    Overall I had a great time in Pattaya but four nights is much too little. I would suggest at least a full week to check out all venues I would have liked to check out. So next stop is Bangkok which I'll write a separate report on. Hope this report is useful.

  14. #43812
    Quote Originally Posted by EverythingThai  [View Original Post]
    I am not Indian, but I will get you started with the following:

    1. Pin Up.

    2. XS.

    3. Fahrenheit.

    4. Co Co.
    You can add Peppermint to that list.

    Quote Originally Posted by EverythingThai  [View Original Post]
    These clubs continually discriminate against Indians. I have witnessed first hand the horrible behavior of the door guys at all these clubs. For what's its worth, most of the NightAss bars on Soi 6 are the same. They will let you in, but the girls won't pay you much attention. How do I know? I have also witnessed it first hand. One time an Indian guy was sitting at the table next to me in Passion. They gave him his first drink and ignored him. I witnessed him motioning for girls to come over and even asked the server to bring a girl over. The server tried, I will give her credit, but the girls just shook their heads "no". The momasons and manager did nothing to help either.
    Don't you think these girls have valid reasons to avoid servicing these guys? If there are tens of these guys coming over the girls and offering 100 bahts to bang them while the going rate is between 1500 and 2000 you don't think the girls would want to avoid them at all cost? That's even before talking about looks, odor and behaviour.

    The fact that they finally came over and serviced him once they realized the guy is decent plus the fact that the management let them enter the place without objection is proof there is no systematic discrimination in these bars.

    When a girl in When Angels Play bar brought my order and went straight back to seat with her friends instead of servicing me, I didn't call that discrimination. These girls have their preferences and I'm glad she's been that honest and candid, she could have attempted to dry me off by asking drinks after drinks and telling me bullshit while secretly thinking that I'm disgusting.

  15. #43811
    Quote Originally Posted by EverythingThai  [View Original Post]
    I am not Indian, but I will get you started with the following:

    1. Pin Up.

    2. XS.

    3. Fahrenheit.

    4. Co Co.

    These clubs continually discriminate against Indians. I have witnessed first hand the horrible behavior of the door guys at all these clubs. For what's its worth, most of the NightAss bars on Soi 6 are the same. They will let you in, but the girls won't pay you much attention. How do I know? I have also witnessed it first hand. One time an Indian guy was sitting at the table next to me in Passion. They gave him his first drink and ignored him. I witnessed him motioning for girls to come over and even asked the server to bring a girl over. The server tried, I will give her credit, but the girls just shook their heads "no". The momasons and manager did nothing to help either.

    So, I decided to chat with this guy and he told me he owns a big IT company back in India with tons of international clients. I said don't worry and invited him to sit with me. After 30 minutes, he had 3 girls grinding him and sitting on his face and he rang the bell 4 times. Off he went upstairs for a threesome. One of the most epic nights on Soi 6. We still keep in touch..
    I'll be interested to see how this pans out. I'll be in Thailand in January and I am of Indian origin but born and raised in the west and happen to be light skinned as my parents were from North India. North Indians have features more akin to south Europeans and Middle East.

    In fact over the years people have thought I'm anything from Spanish to Egyptian.

    It will be interesting to see how I am treated. Maybe I should get a t shirt that says "I'm a bit tanned but not Indian".

    Obviously I'm joking, I'm fiercely proud of my ancestry.

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