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  1. #58385
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    Well stated. I for one will certainly emphasize the importance of your first point. Bangkok is not a beach town. But I see dudes walking around in shorts, flip-flops, and wife beaters all the time. Many are unshaven and unkempt. Thai people put a premium on appearance and cleanliness as is stated above. The only time I ever wear shorts in Bangkok is at the gym. I usually take two to three showers a day, change clothes at least twice, ensure that I am well groomed and that includes meticulous manscaping and trimming of armpit hair as well. Also be clean shaven guys. Asian women for the most part do not like beards and mustaches and stubble isn't going to get you anywhere. Save the ragged look for Pattaya.
    I close my eyes and read that advice from you verbatim in my head since you've had the courtesy and decency to post it probably 50 times over the past 20 years.

  2. #58384
    Quote Originally Posted by EverythingThai  [View Original Post]
    1. Presentation Matters.

    2. Generosity Goes a Long Way.

    3. Don't Sweat the Small Stuff.

    4. Respect and Politeness.

    5. Lighten the Mood.

    6. Foreplay is Key.
    All valid points. Being seen as a "good heart", khun jai dee, goes a LONG way in helping to achieve success. That's not saying "overpaying", but just being seen as a nice person, no entitled attitude, being respectful, physically safe. Yes, Thais pride themselves in their cleanliness. Telling a girl she's "hom", smells nice, is a real complement. "Min", stinks, is a real INSULT. As others have stated, city wear is fine, doesn't have to be designer, but beach wear... save it for the beach. Myself, beard - no bar - but then, it fits in with my character. Never had a problem with it.

    Enjoy the language barrier, have fun with it. Remember, this is Thailand, she speaks Thai, and the problem is that you don't, or not that well. A few simple phrases go a long way. Learn from her.

    Just the other day, a regular I've known for a long time told me, "Always happy to see you. You make me laugh, AND I can laugh around you. Others, too serious". It's BUSINESS, transactional, without a doubt. But if you've ever worked customer service, there are some you like to see, and others, rather not.

    I've said MANY times: you treat her like an orifice, she'll be an orifice. You treat her like a person, she'll be a person.

  3. #58383
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelingJohn#2  [View Original Post]
    Yes, I have read the many reports going back and forth. I used to think better than PH because of the potential scams in PH and didn't have that experience in BKK but this time seemed more bad than good.

    Thermae. Got turned down by 2 cute girls. Decided to leave. Came back a few times but never found anything I liked and having to buy a drink each time I came in was not ideal. The SW outside were a bad choice. Tried 2 different girls with the same results. Girl gets to hotel and demands money first. I show have it but want to wait until after. She refuses to get shower and leaves. Other girl was preg and tried to cause a scene to get more money for doing nothing. I paid her to leave the other girl just left. Price was 2000 plus hotel.

    SWs on Nana used to be my favorite. Found a lot of gems. This time was more Ladyboys and older than before. Price was 1. 500 to 3. 000. The most I paid was 2. 000 plus hotel. Russian girl turned out to be great and had a good body. The cute Vietnamese girl was not interested but then said would do a 3 some with her older friend.

    Patpong Night Market bar fined one girl for here. Had to also pay for lady drinks. Total cost was close to 6. 500 but the girl was cute and I wanted to try. Had a great experience but not into paying BF and lady drinks. I do like the idea of maybe getting drinks and having fun without the take out..
    Do you know why the two girls in Thermae turned you down?

    Thanks.

  4. #58382
    Quote Originally Posted by EverythingThai  [View Original Post]
    Navigating interactions with Thai working girls in Bangkok can sometimes be a challenge, especially considering the many stories ranging from disengaged attitudes and mechanical experiences to refusals of BBFS and runners or girls asking for money upfront. As a result, it's essential to approach these situations with strategy and awareness to ensure you have a positive experience. Below, I'll share some proven tips that have worked for me over the years. While no method is foolproof, these approaches can significantly improve your chances of achieving a mutually enjoyable encounter. Bangkok is much more different than Pattaya guys.

    1. Presentation Matters.

    First impressions count. Ditch the ragged look, such as flip-flops, tank tops, and unkempt attire, as they send the wrong signal. Instead, opt for well-fitted clothes, polished shoes, and good grooming. Cleanliness, deodorant, and a touch of cologne can go a long way. Thai women often respect men who look well put-together, successful, and healthy. A polished appearance makes them more comfortable and relaxed, which can lead to a more enjoyable and intimate connection. The girls in Bangkok spend hours getting ready to go to the clubs and often look amazing in their dresses and high heels. Try going to Flamingo in Emquartier or Thonglor Soi 10 and you will know exactly what I mean.

    2. Generosity Goes a Long Way.

    Being generous doesn't mean being a "Simp. Small, thoughtful gestureslike buying a few drinks or leaving consistent tipscan make a big impact. In Thai culture, maintaining "face" is crucial, and your generosity can help the ladies feel proud in front of their peers. This often translates into better experiences later. This is one of my best strategies. The money I spend depends on the quality of the lady.

    For example, once I bought pizzas for the staff at a bar I frequented, and it completely transformed the evening with my chosen companion. On another occasion, a simple dinner at a rooftop bar made my date express her gratitude with a passionate and memorable night. It cost only a few thousand Baht for cocktails and some appetizers. It's not about overspending; it's about showing respect and making them feel valued.

    3. Don't Sweat the Small Stuff.

    Flexibility is key. Thai women generally dislike overly talkative or detail-oriented men during these encounters. If you relax and go with the flow, many of the specificssuch as certain preferences or restrictionsbecome less of an issue. A genuine connection often leads to a more organic and enjoyable time. This is one of the key strategies that I use to get BBFS.

    4. Respect and Politeness.

    A little respect goes a long way. Learn basic Thai phrases, ask about their lives, and treat them courteously. Simple gestures, like opening doors or showing interest in their stories, can deepen their comfort level with you. Remember, these women are individuals with real emotions and lives outside their work sometimes. Approaching them with empathy and kindness will often lead to better outcomes.

    5. Lighten the Mood.

    While alcohol isn't necessary, getting your companion tipsy can help ease inhibitions and foster a relaxed atmosphere. The goal is not to push boundaries, but to create a comfortable environment where both you and the lady can enjoy themselves without awkwardness.

    6. Foreplay is Key.

    Many experiences hinge on how you approach intimacy. Taking time to please her, especially through foreplay or other thoughtful gestures, can make all the difference. If she feels cared for and satisfied, she's more likely to reciprocate in kind.

    While these methods aren't guaranteed to work for everyone every time, they've proven successful for me throughout my time in Thailand over the past 16 years. A respectful, considerate approach tends to yield the best results. Whether you're on holiday or you are an expat, following these principles can help ensure memorable and enjoyable experiences with the ladies in Bangkok. Again, the er is a huge contrast between mongering in Bangkok and mongering in Pattaya. Pattaya is a tourist beach town. That should be enough right there to enlighten you.
    Well stated. I for one will certainly emphasize the importance of your first point. Bangkok is not a beach town. But I see dudes walking around in shorts, flip-flops, and wife beaters all the time. Many are unshaven and unkempt. Thai people put a premium on appearance and cleanliness as is stated above. The only time I ever wear shorts in Bangkok is at the gym. I usually take two to three showers a day, change clothes at least twice, ensure that I am well groomed and that includes meticulous manscaping and trimming of armpit hair as well. Also be clean shaven guys. Asian women for the most part do not like beards and mustaches and stubble isn't going to get you anywhere. Save the ragged look for Pattaya.

  5. #58381
    Quote Originally Posted by ShyBoy143  [View Original Post]
    Thanks K 'everything Thai This should be mandatory reading before entering Thailand for everyone.

    I'd just like to stress your point about "face" further. It is not very intuitive to understand, but once you do, it'll by far be the best tool in your kit. Helping a Thai girl save face, or giving her bragging rights has always led to amazing nights for me. It's very small simple things. A common example is from girly bars. If a girl is chatting up another customer for a drink and gives up after 10 minutes / after customer refuses, volunteering to buy her a drink. Or else picking the 3rd /4th best lookers to buy drinks / chat despite the best 2 being available etc.
    Don't get all hero worshippy, hes just reciting the eternal basics that have been repeated ad nauseum here.

    Guys: If you are planning YOUR FIRST trip to Bangkok it beehoves you to STUDY as much of this Board as humanly possible.

    For my last "first" trip, I went back about 10 years from the last time I had been there.

    I skim out the reports about girls more than 6 months old.

    You can also use the search functions, and read all the posts ever written as to a subject. For example, I just saw a post about a Russian streetwalker. I immediately did a search to find what I was looking for, then I was able to ask the appropriate question of the poster with a bit of knowledge in my head.

  6. #58380
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelingJohn#2  [View Original Post]
    Yes, I have read the many reports going back and forth. I used to think better than PH because of the potential scams in PH and didn't have that experience in BKK but this time seemed more bad than good.

    Thermae. Got turned down by 2 cute girls. Decided to leave. Came back a few times but never found anything I liked and having to buy a drink each time I came in was not ideal. The SW outside were a bad choice. Tried 2 different girls with the same results. Girl gets to hotel and demands money first. I show have it but want to wait until after. She refuses to get shower and leaves. Other girl was preg and tried to cause a scene to get more money for doing nothing. I paid her to leave the other girl just left. Price was 2000 plus hotel.

    SWs on Nana used to be my favorite. Found a lot of gems. This time was more Ladyboys and older than before. Price was 1. 500 to 3. 000. The most I paid was 2. 000 plus hotel. Russian girl turned out to be great and had a good body. The cute Vietnamese girl was not interested but then said would do a 3 some with her older friend.

    Patpong Night Market bar fined one girl for here. Had to also pay for lady drinks. Total cost was close to 6. 500 but the girl was cute and I wanted to try. Had a great experience but not into paying BF and lady drinks. I do like the idea of maybe getting drinks and having fun without the take out.

    Fiwfans tried 2 girls. 1 was great. She was into everything and the price was 1400. The other one the manager sent me to wrong room. Then when I got to "correct" room the girl was a little older and did not want to do 69 and her BJ was bad. Same price 1400. These places are a little outside the center but found 8 listings from same area. I like the price but picking from fake pictures and YMMV reviews are not easy.

    I had more fun in Pattaya because of beach life, great resort, and lots of food and girl choices. BKK as been said is becoming overrun with tourist and tourist followers. I had fun and enjoyed my visit, just not sure I will rush to go back until "off season".
    I hope having to buy a 100 baht drink in Thermae didn't break you.

    If you would have read the forum you wouldn't have selected girls outside the Thermae. Your first experience, when the "girl" wants the money and refuses to shower? Ladyboy.

    Now tell us where you found a Russian streetwalker?

  7. #58379

    I don't know if I like or hate

    Yes, I have read the many reports going back and forth. I used to think better than PH because of the potential scams in PH and didn't have that experience in BKK but this time seemed more bad than good.

    Thermae. Got turned down by 2 cute girls. Decided to leave. Came back a few times but never found anything I liked and having to buy a drink each time I came in was not ideal. The SW outside were a bad choice. Tried 2 different girls with the same results. Girl gets to hotel and demands money first. I show have it but want to wait until after. She refuses to get shower and leaves. Other girl was preg and tried to cause a scene to get more money for doing nothing. I paid her to leave the other girl just left. Price was 2000 plus hotel.

    SWs on Nana used to be my favorite. Found a lot of gems. This time was more Ladyboys and older than before. Price was 1. 500 to 3. 000. The most I paid was 2. 000 plus hotel. Russian girl turned out to be great and had a good body. The cute Vietnamese girl was not interested but then said would do a 3 some with her older friend.

    Patpong Night Market bar fined one girl for here. Had to also pay for lady drinks. Total cost was close to 6. 500 but the girl was cute and I wanted to try. Had a great experience but not into paying BF and lady drinks. I do like the idea of maybe getting drinks and having fun without the take out.

    Fiwfans tried 2 girls. 1 was great. She was into everything and the price was 1400. The other one the manager sent me to wrong room. Then when I got to "correct" room the girl was a little older and did not want to do 69 and her BJ was bad. Same price 1400. These places are a little outside the center but found 8 listings from same area. I like the price but picking from fake pictures and YMMV reviews are not easy.

    I had more fun in Pattaya because of beach life, great resort, and lots of food and girl choices. BKK as been said is becoming overrun with tourist and tourist followers. I had fun and enjoyed my visit, just not sure I will rush to go back until "off season".

  8. #58378
    Quote Originally Posted by EverythingThai  [View Original Post]
    It's off the hook now. Naked girls everywhere. The preamble for T-Ted 99.
    Come on man be honest most of them are fat.

  9. #58377

    Probably the best advice ever and so well articulated too

    Thanks K 'everything Thai This should be mandatory reading before entering Thailand for everyone.

    I'd just like to stress your point about "face" further. It is not very intuitive to understand, but once you do, it'll by far be the best tool in your kit. Helping a Thai girl save face, or giving her bragging rights has always led to amazing nights for me. It's very small simple things. A common example is from girly bars. If a girl is chatting up another customer for a drink and gives up after 10 minutes / after customer refuses, volunteering to buy her a drink. Or else picking the 3rd /4th best lookers to buy drinks / chat despite the best 2 being available etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by EverythingThai  [View Original Post]
    Navigating interactions with Thai working girls in Bangkok can sometimes be a challenge, especially considering the many stories ranging from disengaged attitudes and mechanical experiences to refusals of BBFS and runners or girls asking for money upfront. As a result, it's essential to approach these situations with strategy and awareness to ensure you have a positive experience. Below, I'll share some proven tips that have worked for me over the years. While no method is foolproof, these approaches can significantly improve your chances of achieving a mutually enjoyable encounter. Bangkok is much more different than Pattaya guys.

    1. Presentation Matters.

    First impressions count. Ditch the ragged look, such as flip-flops, tank tops, and unkempt attire, as they send the wrong signal. Instead, opt for well-fitted clothes, polished shoes, and good grooming. Cleanliness, deodorant, and a touch of cologne can go a long way. Thai women often respect men who look well put-together, successful, and healthy. A polished appearance makes them more comfortable and relaxed, which can lead to a more enjoyable and intimate connection. The girls in Bangkok spend hours getting ready to go to the clubs and often look amazing in their dresses and high heels. Try going to Flamingo in Emquartier or Thonglor Soi 10 and you will know exactly what I mean..

  10. #58376

    Diggity diggity

    Quote Originally Posted by EverythingThai  [View Original Post]
    It's off the hook now. Naked girls everywhere. The preamble for T-Ted 99.
    You've been on a content roll lately. Inquiring minds eagerly await your next update!

  11. #58375

    Crazy House Soi Cowboy

    It's off the hook now. Naked girls everywhere. The preamble for T-Ted 99.

  12. #58374
    Thanks. I think I'll go with tan. She seems like the best option and most professional.

    Quote Originally Posted by WeingutFritz  [View Original Post]
    We must have similar likings because I have had both!

    With Emmy it was a threesome massage with one of her friends. She is a very nice girl, speaks English like a native and she looks like her photos. They drained me and it was me setting the physical limits and not them. If you are into a big butt and boobs just go for it. She is back in Bangkok after some time in Belgium. WIR. Probably not but that is because there are so many options in Bangkok and I for the most part like to try different things.

    Tan is a wild one. Met her the first time for a normal session at my hotel. Wanted to do some uniform stuff but most of her gear was in Hong Kong. Ended up being all lingerie. Still a pleasant session. Next time in Bangkok I bump into her at upstairs at Penny Black. She gives me an offer around 5-6 k and came back with me. LT this time. Basically jumped me coming in the door. Had me do her BBFS up against the wall. And then kept wanting more rounds than I could manage until she left the next day. Thinking back, I feel like repeating!

    Enjoy!

  13. #58373
    Quote Originally Posted by Babaji69  [View Original Post]
    Hi everyone hope you all are doing well. I am travelling to Bangkok next week for 2 days. I have been to Bangkok earlier also but for 1 day only because mostly I visited other cities like phuket and krabi but this time I am going to Bangkok for 2 days and would appreciate if you guys would help me out with some leads regarding good massage parlors for sex, smooci and other places where I can get good escorts because one of my friend got trapped with a lady boy so I want to be careful.

    Please help me with.

    - good massage parlors where I can find good sex.

    - is smooci a legit website there or is there something else to find something online?

    -any good clubs there to find escorts.

    Any info will be appreciated, my pm is open and I can reciprocate with good contacts and leads in Delhi and Bangalore.

    Thanks.
    Easy Peasy. RTFF. This is Thailand, not Delhi, Bangalore. We don't need no stinkin' contacts here.

    But if you can't be bothered to avail yourself of the info that others have taken the time to post on the various threads pertinent to your questions, then you can use the "quick and easy" connection:

    Go to Terminal 21. Stand at the bottom of the escalator between floors 3 and 1 (yes, the LONG escalator). When you see girls that interest you, do your best Elvis impression, though don't play an air guitar (newbies' mistake); rather, keep your hands in your pockets as you do your pelvic gyrations. Give 'em the eye, if you're a REAL player, you'll understand, with a deep, subtle "Come on, Come on" in your best Elvis voice. Before you know it, some uniformed chauffeurs will take you to a happening club, free room and board, where you can have all the sex (anal, oral) that you want. You're welcome. Otherwise, historical records are your friend.

  14. #58372

    Thanks for all your suggestions.

    Thanks for the great suggestions!

    Quote Originally Posted by MrHappyKat  [View Original Post]
    My trip dates are set and I've booked air and hotels. Now I just need to find a door-to-door car service from my Bangkok Hotel to my Pattaya Hotel. And presumably, my Pattaya Hotel to the BKK airport 12 days later. I can see some car service websites through Google, but they seem expensive (3000 THB+) versus what I think a Grab or Taxi might cost at around 1500-2000 THB. Not really interested in super cheap methods like the bus lines. I don't mind paying for the private ride luxury, assuming the costs are not more than $50 (1800 THB) each way.

    Any suggestions or referrals will be much appreciated.

  15. #58371

    "Blacks Upto no good"

    Quote Originally Posted by Llantarnam  [View Original Post]
    Appears to be more and more young black men along Suk in the evenings. I often wonder how they make a living given they don't appear to be selling anything and they don't appear to be pimping any women. Are they just living off the earnings of one of the Soi 4 skanks?
    As I said these guys are "upto no good" - seemingly selling 'stuff'.

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