Pattaya Reports

[Nyezhov]

That could not be it. I get into the same gogos and I wear shorts and flip-flops and have not owned an iron here in 16 years. I definitely do not spend a bunch of money. Regular old Timex on my arm.

Because you know how to operate. If you took one look at me you would laugh, although I my soccer jerseys are never wrinkled and I don't wear flip flops. Yet, I am treated like a god.

If I wore a President here, I would get no points since none of them would even know what it is and if they did they would think it was fake. I save that for Vegas.

[Mr Enternational]

How do I get into any WS go-go and I dont look white or east asian? Very simple. Im dressed nicely (collared ironed shirt, nice watch, groomed, haircut, clean shoes) and I spend money. Businesses do not forget the people who spend money.

That could not be it. I get into the same gogos and I wear shorts and flip-flops and have not owned an iron here in 16 years. I definitely do not spend a bunch of money. Regular old Timex on my arm.

[Rocko20]

I am not Indian, but I will get you started with the following:

These clubs continually discriminate against Indians. I have witnessed first hand the horrible behavior of the door guys at all these clubs.

I'm not Indian, but I'm not East Asian or Caucasian either. Im American but Im also a person of color.

I have been going to Walking Street go-gos for over a decade. I can only speak for Walking Street because I don't really go to LK Metro, Soi 6, etc.

The reason Indians are treated poorly by WS go-gos is because they don't spend money. Fair or not, that is their reputation and stereotype. This is what Walking Street bargirls have told me directly. Indians have a reputation to go inside the club with 3-4 guys, they nurse 1-2 cheap beers, they don't buy lady drinks, staff drinks, or barfines, and basically they're taking up space for someone, especially an East Asian who will spend money.

There are two groups of people that security doors guys typically do not let in: local Thai men and Indian groups. Only way they're possibly getting in is with a bribe to security. Fair or not, those are the facts.

How do I get into any WS go-go and I dont look white or east asian? Very simple. Im dressed nicely (collared ironed shirt, nice watch, groomed, haircut, clean shoes) and I spend money. Businesses do not forget the people who spend money.

SWIM suggests in Thailand and Pattaya. If you have to spend MORE money than the next guy to get the SAME girls. Then you getting GOT. Pure and simple you are apparently deficient in one or more of the following categories: looks, charm, game, common sense, self confidence, hygiene, personality, or the "it" factor.

And that old, short, fat, hairy, ugly, bald guy will simply claim that you are deficient in your bank account.

Ive mongered for many years, and Ive learned that not every monger has the same budget or bank account.

Ever seen a porno clip where an ugly nasty fat guy is fucking a young hot chick and cums inside her? Yeah, thats the power of money, not charm or game, money.

[Mogwai]

My girl drives Bolt and does tours for foreigners. She said they can pick people up outside. If they go inside to pick up the taxi mafia will get angry. Even if there is a taxi outside at the curb they can not pick up near that taxi. She said there are signs at the bus station saying Bolt and Grab can not go inside to pick people up. Lumpini Condos in Naklua and Jomtien are the same way because they have taxi stands.

She said one day she was picking a friend up from the bus station and a taxi guy approached her angry asking what she was doing inside. She said picking up my friend. He wanted her to open her phone to show him she was not using the app. She told him he was crazy. They have their Line and Facebook groups talking about all the shit.

I have been picked up or dropped off by a Bolt driver inside the North Pattaya Bus Terminal about four times this year, without any problems.

[BionicMan]

I'm new in Sriracha town and I need a drinking buddy to do the Japanese Snack Bars in Sriracha because flying solo sucks. DM me.

Posting this question in three Pattaya thread won't bring you any result.

[Ablablat]

I'm new in Sriracha town and I need a drinking buddy to do the Japanese Snack Bars in Sriracha because flying solo sucks. DM me.

[LittleBigMan]

My guiding family and friends around the last month for some personal business and entertainment is near over. Good to see them but it can be tiring.

The big plan was to go into Bangkok, meet with lawyers to handle a personal matter for a friend due an unexpected operation prior to coming running around to particularly Ted99 which I was really hoping but it got cancelled business done straight back to Pattaya.

Most of the entertainment was on the Darkside of Pattaya with the GClubs, most BF were made at the Dao Bar, between Soi Nernpludwan and Khao Noi, In house, the room is very nice 300-500 BF, girls take more than happy to take 1000 baht ST and 2000 LT. Didn't expect any young types nor looks but service was very good this coming from others. I tried a few months back but the two that I did try were now gone. Out of 10, there was two max that stood out from the others.

I wrote earlier we did venture up to Maggie Mays prior to the Grand Opening place is nice but no short time rooms behind the curtain not my scene.

When you get to a certain age eating is more important at least to me and my group a number of them are a tick away from their death bed but are very well off where money is no problem. Many of our nights out from the Darkside for Dinner started on 3rd Road down a KM, or more from Soi Pothole restaurant Steak House called BULLS very good food.

We hit on the nights out majority of every GoGo on LK, found the asking BF and girl price not on par with their looks. The one off Soi 15, Playgirls had about 3 found it to be the most crowded of them all to fit our group we were given I guess the VIP behind the curtain area on one side. I can't remember the BF, but I remember 3500/4000 being thrown out by one girl. From there we walked outside and tour Soi Boomerrang and ended up at Heaven Above. Somewhat interesting a hybrid type of place GoGo and GC, girls would dance on table or booth one sits like most of LK places there are all shape, sizes and ages. I saw one older doing a show I would have BF but she went back after the show I never came back out. Certainly a place I would go back for a drink or two on a later date myself.

Walking Street, on a number of evenings, we hit, Pin Up, 79, XS, Chicks, many agree that PinUp had the best lineup but returning on other nights not the case. Majority of our visits were just looking and drinking their hard liquor straight up. Thanksgiving with a smaller group of 5 decided Bacarra, last time I was there was a year ago there were still a few girls from years back I knew one I see regularly on the side ended up with my cousin BF 1800, she took 5000 baht LT this was after buying 10,000 in drinks for her friends and a few staff. I and another sat away from him since I wanted to check the girls on stage and didn't want to be constantly ask to buy drinks. This time the two mamasan I've known for years just said Hello, and didn't stand asking for tips and drinks. My friend ended up buying a drink for one girl and another friend both real looker asking price was 4000ST, and a whopping 7800 baht for LT, I was thinking now that is a funny number. That was a cue to pay up and leave.

Walked across to Pin Up, stayed for the 3 rotation the girls we saw on the first visit, on this 3rd visit were no where to be seen or found. I too would admit line a month ago was the tops.

Walked down to Shark, I was there about a month ago, a former dancer I have known for years older works as a waitress with her Tom Daughter LOL the line up a month ago was so and so. This time it was much different as I was spotted by my waitress friend personally less girls working but I though the line up tonight was the best in our entire trip I would rate Bacarra as number two. My standard has always been I'm not looking for young and stunners, late 20's, Mid 30's 5'3 taller with the heels, nice legs, ass, mature personality and a sense they are going to perform at least in theory.

In conversation my cousins friend from H. K does like them young but I had him guess the age of my two waitress friends he took a good look face body and said 31,36, girls responded 49,51 he split out his drink and said loudly " no fucking way " he ended up with a so called super model, talk with braces 20 year old BF 2000,4000 for ST, buying drinks for old time sake with these two girls I noticed many of the dancing girls were jealous staring over at our table in the middle thinking what the hell is going on, bunch of waitress getting more drinks that we are getting. I even met the Mamasan who is 51, I was thinking silently hell I do her she has to be the best looking mamasan takes care of herself.

Now to the best part of the trip! Majority of our Saturday have been spent at my favorite GC, Kinnarree, Saturdays. In all the years I've lived here I have never tried the food which on Saturday is their dry rub ribs and Brisket. If you live here and can't return to the States like Texas it is damn good. On this day more freelancers show up many in my group got their FB contacts two in my group hooked up with girls in their mid-twenties quality can easily work in Gogo's to stay majority of their trip exclusively with them. ST, with them started at 2000 at their resort, deal was they would get 6000 baht a day. That was great for me since I didn't have to shuttle them around I just handle the van over to them put it back later with gas. LOL.

Happy Belated Thanksgiving, Happy Holidays!

[SubCmdr]

People need to read EihTooms' post very carefully. He makes some excellent points that provide food for thought for those who think they know it all when it comes to pricing.

You ever noticed how many posts are made by people who do not provide any information on having sex with girls? Things like the location where they procured the girl, the services negotiated, price and the quality of the services received. But if someone thinks someone else overpaid they are quick to have something to say about it. As you stated EihTooms, it comes down to the individual punter being happy with the social / sexual serves they received from the prostitute they hired no matter how much someone else thinks they overpaid or how cheap they think they are.

Are the guys that pay the full fee of Soi 6 girl that comes by to see me after her shift getting got because she charges me way less and spends way more time with me? Is this something that I am posting about the others find comical because they commonly happen to others. If so, why are they not posting about it?

My time; My money; My dick; My call!

There is still a lot of nuance there to consider.

If another punter paid 2000 baht and she only gave him covered sex with a hand job finish but I paid the SAME girl 2,500 but got DFK, BBBJ and BBFSCIP, imo the other punter was GOT.

And what about the punter who happens to meet that SAME girl standing on the street after having been kicked out of her room for non payment of rent on a rainy night, it's 3 am and the loan shark she owes money to is adding another 30% to the loan at 10 am tomorrow? So if he then gets what I got with her for only 1,500 baht, should I feel GOT or deficient in charm, good looks, game and so on?

Well, I won't. I'll just feel damn glad I don't have to wander the streets at 3 am on rainy nights to get Real Sex for an amount of baht I can easily afford to pay any time.

Good to see you posting here brother. I enjoy your insights. Your talents are wasted over there in the American Politics thread. LOL!

[SubCmdr]

But a question also. In soi6. I'm not a big bar guy, but there is some nice ladies there. You mention if you just want to fuck just ask them for price right away. I thought it was no bueno to just come up and barfine rightaway, I always thought they want you to order drinks before you take a girl?

If I meet a girl on the street and cut a deal with her for short time I make sure we are going to the room upstairs directly. You get what you negotiate.

[SlickLicker]

I think you have the game mixed up. The girls are there for money, not to find their knight in shining armor. When a guy is walking down the soi and a girl is pulling on him, she is actually pulling on his wallet. She does not care what color skin is holding on to the wallet or how good the guy holding the wallet looks. They are sales people. They are selling drinks and / or pussy.

In general I agree with you, first and foremost its about the baht haha, but there is a difference for sure. And honestly if roles would be reversed I understand. If you can get same amount of money from someone that you are more attracted too obviously you pull on that one more.

But great example, yesterday I was in soi6 on the early side like 7 pm. Myself I'm mid 30, can pass for early 30 look. I wear blouse, shorts, shoes, nothing to fancy but not cheap looking either. Average height, semi athletic but not amazing in any way, pretty regular basicaly, wouldn't call myself really hot looking guy is what I'm saying. Now girls pull on my just like any other guy I suppose.

Now this time there was 3 guys like 10-15 m in front of me, one of them. Tall latino guy like 1. 90 m+ basicaly same clothing style, just he has necklace and glasses extra. I would expect more sexy looking build for most women. He was an absolute magnet. The girls swamped on him from all sides at the same time. Because of this he couldn't move fast I passed him. I was 10 m in front of him. Girls jump in the middle of the road, preparing roadblock basically. At first I thought oh wait no I'm being blocked. Noo they step aside for me and 4 girls jump him at the same time behind me. I mean. It's obvious they do have preferences haha. Not that I blame them.

But a question also. In soi6. I'm not a big bar guy, but there is some nice ladies there. You mention if you just want to fuck just ask them for price right away. I thought it was no bueno to just come up and barfine rightaway, I always thought they want you to order drinks before you take a girl?

[SubCmdr]

Those that don't have the flow to support their stack, they complain. Those that do, enjoy and report about it.

I am in it for the pussy. They in it for the money. Anyone who wants to use Jedi Mind Tricks and Vulcan Mind Melds in order to get their prostitutes to tell them their life story then sit on their face are welcome to do so. But me I am more of the philosophical alignment of the great poet Snoop Dogg who said:

Bitches ain't shit but hoes and tricks; Lick on deez nutz and suck the dick; Get's the fuck out after you're done; And I hops in my ride to make a quick run... - Bitches ain't shit, Snoop Dogg.

Being an oversized, old farang, with zero charm, I look at this as a positive thing. An extra 500 to 1000 baht balances out another punters more desirable "colors" and will more quickly get me out of the noisy bar and into my comfortable hotel than wasting my time trying to prove my wit and charm while drinking unwanted alcohol. It might also be a contributing factor for them accepting negotiated services such as BBFSCIP. I think it was Mr. E who recently reminded us that the girls are there for the money and little else. Its baht for twat

[EihTooms]

SWIM suggests in Thailand and Pattaya. If you have to spend MORE money than the next guy to get the SAME girls. Then you getting GOT. Pure and simple you are apparently deficient in one or more of the following categories: looks, charm, game, common sense, self confidence, hygiene, personality, or the "it" factor. Which I like to call colors. You simply just black and white to them. Got to love discounts!

There is still a lot of nuance there to consider.

If another punter paid 2000 baht and she only gave him covered sex with a hand job finish but I paid the SAME girl 2,500 but got DFK, BBBJ and BBFSCIP, imo the other punter was GOT.

And what about the punter who happens to meet that SAME girl standing on the street after having been kicked out of her room for non payment of rent on a rainy night, it's 3 am and the loan shark she owes money to is adding another 30% to the loan at 10 am tomorrow? So if he then gets what I got with her for only 1,500 baht, should I feel GOT or deficient in charm, good looks, game and so on?

Well, I won't. I'll just feel damn glad I don't have to wander the streets at 3 am on rainy nights to get Real Sex for an amount of baht I can easily afford to pay any time.

[HorseTrader]

If you have to spend MORE money than the next guy to get the SAME girls. Then you getting GOT. Pure and simple you are apparently deficient in one or more of the following categories: looks, charm, game, common sense, self confidence, hygiene, personality, or the "it" factor. Which I like to call colors. You simply just black and white to them. Got to love discounts!

Being an oversized, old farang, with zero charm, I look at this as a positive thing. An extra 500 to 1000 baht balances out another punters more desirable "colors" and will more quickly get me out of the noisy bar and into my comfortable hotel than wasting my time trying to prove my wit and charm while drinking unwanted alcohol. It might also be a contributing factor for them accepting negotiated services such as BBFSCIP. I think it was Mr. E who recently reminded us that the girls are there for the money and little else. It’s baht for twat

[SubCmdr]

I think guys think too much on what other guys pay. If a monger can't afford to spend as much as another guy he should not worry about it and call the guy retarded. For the so called retarded gent it may just be loose change. Remember the locals who are even less financially endowed are thinking all westerners are retarded to be spending the amount they are.

Successful men can compensate for their deficiencies by developing mastery in their area of experience and bringing their A-game to the table in order to create a flow that allows them to support a stack that allows them to be International Trickin however they like. Critics complain about those who got it like that and complain because they refuse to put the work in order to: Be ballin like a mother fucking pro.

The object when I was on vacation in Pattaya was to enjoy my vacation. I spent a lot of money and had a lot of fun. I also posted about it extensively. The actual activities of having sex with girls. Now, I spend way less money and have way more fun. Those who have it enjoy it. Those that don't, well they are looking to sit outside in the heat to get free internet so they don't have to buy anything. A bottle of water in 7-11 is 6 THB. And you get to cool off in the air conditioning when you enter the store to buy the bottle.

You cannot take it with you. If you have never developed the flow to support your stack, then you will never know what you are missing. But rest assured it isn't much and just keep talking about those who have it cause we are enjoying it at a level that some will never even understand or know. When I was in Heaven Above the most money I spent was on myself. LOL! Let's take a look at it. Bottle Service is for me. Lady Drinks are for me. Short Time Room is for me. Short Time fee is for me. There was not a single THB that I spend that I did not benefit from.

Think about that!

I don't post pictures of girls I have not even fucked yet. Besides I could give a fuck about a profile picture. If you real dog, post up one that you took yourself. Hide the face if you must. But if you didn't take the pic. Then what you are posting is not real. Anybody can pull a picture off Thai Friendly or any other site and say I fucked this girl. LOL!

My time; My money; My dick; My rules!

[PassionSR]

You can add Peppermint to that list.

Don't you think these girls have valid reasons to avoid servicing these guys? If there are tens of these guys coming over the girls and offering 100 bahts to bang them while the going rate is between 1500 and 2000 you don't think the girls would want to avoid them at all cost? That's even before talking about looks, odor and behaviour.

The fact that they finally came over and serviced him once they realized the guy is decent plus the fact that the management let them enter the place without objection is proof there is no systematic discrimination in these bars.

When a girl in When Angels Play bar brought my order and went straight back to seat with her friends instead of servicing me, I didn't call that discrimination. These girls have their preferences and I'm glad she's been that honest and candid, she could have attempted to dry me off by asking drinks after drinks and telling me bullshit while secretly thinking that I'm disgusting.

Having preferences is fine, but more often than not there are a whole bunch of other factors at play rather than the customer just being 'bad'.

If you want to see proof of that, how about you go to Angeles in the Philippines as a white guy and compare your treatment to 5 years ago. Did all those guys suddenly become bad customers? No, the Korean bar influence has essentially made it socially desirable to ignore white guys there. Those same girls will always tell you what they think you want to hear about guys that are not your ethnicity. They're smart and know that pulls on a lot of men's ego strings.