American Politics

[MarquisdeSade1]

Trump Vowed To Go After Political Rivals If Re ElectedHeres Who Could Be Targeted

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroe...ld-be-targeted

Trump makes more than 100 threats to prosecute or punish perceived enemies

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/22/nx-s1...ceived-enemies

Donald Trump threatens to imprison Biden, Harris, Pelosi, and others. Experts are worried

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ls/75060866007

What exactly constitutes a threat in your opinion? Literally.

He still might. The night is young.

How many family members did he pardon in his first term? ZERO.

Because they are not SCUMBAG Junkies and Criminals.

[MarquisdeSade1]

The Kremlin could not be more delighted by their Puppet Trump's Cabinet nominees and Administration staff appointments. All that messaging and "news" copy passed to and through Fux News, Sinclair News, Congressional Repubs, etc and into the enthusiasticslly receptive skulls of MAGAs, Direct Repubs and Bothsider / Neithersiders really paid off.

However, as everyone here knows by now, they also need to give a special nod of thanks to that relative handful of angry Netanyahu-hating but now regretful Muslims spread across the only three battleground / swing states that mattered in determining the winner and came through beautifully for the Kremlin's purposes.

Well, I suppose that really means they owe a great debt to Netanyahu himself, really.

KremlinTV Gushes About Trump's Cabinet Picks.
"If they are allowed to get in, they will quickly dismantle America, brick by brick. They are so great!

https://crooksandliars.com/2024/12/k...trumps-cabinet

Of course, even if Senate Repubs grow a temporary pair and reject this first round of Kremlin-pleasing candidates Trump will simply nominate a second round of Kremlin-pleasing candidates. And the bulk of the damage has already been done; every World Leader, ally and foe alike, now knows beyond all doubt that Trump is a weak, silly, clownish Puppet of whatever America-hating enemy of freedom and democracy chooses to buy him off and pull his strings.

And, no, none of them has any reason whatsoever to suspect he is only pretending to be a know nothing clown in order to swoop in at some point in the future and out maneuver America's adversaries. LOL. No chance of that after witnessing his disastrous failed Trade Negotiations with Xi and his horrific blunder in ushering in, mishandling and exacerbating Trump's Pandemic last time around. And that was with at least 2-3 adult guard rails in his midst to keep him from REALLY screwing up top much. LOL. Nothing like that on hand this time around.

I voted for the Pro Russia Pro Putin candidate as did 77 million other fine Americans.

So had they better love his Pro Russia Cabinet picks.

I Love Vladimir, Long Live the Motherland!!

[Tiny 12]

Tiny, I was being sarcastic. Hunter has one buyer for most of his art work. During the trial, the prosecution tried to call as a witness the buyer. Are you ready for the funny part? The CIA would not let the prosecution do that. So in essence, the CIA was buying Hunter's art work. That is how bad the swamp is. Hunter no longer had to take bribes from Ukraine and China. He could take them from the CIA....

I first saw this when the Marquis quoted you today Elvis. Yes, I knew you were being sarcastic. So was I.

The buyer, a Democratic Party donor and entertainment lawyer, not only paid $875,000 to buy Hunter's paintings, he also loaned him $5 million. And he paid money to Hunter's ex wife, Kathleen Buhle, and his baby momma, Lunden Roberts. Indeed, a whistleblower reported that the CIA intervened to stop the IRS from interviewing Hunter.

All this is bizarre as hell. The list of Hunter's tax deductions (e. G. For escorts, exotic dancers, hotel expense for his drug dealer, health insurance for sugar babies, rental payments on a Lamborghini, and "business travel" in the LOS Angeles area when he was throwing wild crack parties) is mundane in comparison.

https://oversight.house.gov/release/...rris%EF%BF%BC/

https://judiciary.house.gov/media/pr...den-business-0

[MarquisdeSade1]

First of all, kudos to AP for finally being roused out its coma to update their vote count and coming off of that "rounding up" to 50.0% for Trump nonsense. Now they are "rounding up" to 49.9% for him.

https://apnews.com/projects/election...2024/?office=P

However, it still appears the Cook Political Report Vote Tracker is on it with an even more recent count, putting it at 49.79% for Trump vs 48.31% for Harris or a difference of 1. 48 point between them. (See screenshot below).

https://www.cookpolitical.com/vote-t...ctoral-college

Scroll down on this site to Results for the latest / easiest source for the vote count in the only three states that separated a Trump win from a Harris win, PA, MI and WI:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024...ntial_election

Doing the math and showing my work (I have typed a lot of numbers with my thumb so forgive me if I mistyped a digit or 2 here. But I don't think that or an update on the overall and state counts would change much), I see that, as of this writing, the number of votes for either Trump or Harris is:

Trump = 77,256,496.

Harris = 74,969,287.

Total for both = 152,225,783.

The vote advantage for Trump in those three states that mattered is:

PA = +120,299.

MI = +80,103.

WI = +29,397.

Total = +229,729.

Of course, all of the 229,729 votes spread across those three states would not have needed to shift from Trump to Harris in order for her to win and Trump to lose. Only half plus 1 in each of those states would have done it:

229,729 divided by 2 = 114,844. 5 angry, Netanyahu-hating but now regretful Muslims.

"Round up" to 114,845 angry, Netanyahu-hating but now regretful Muslims, add 1 more to each of those three states just to make sure and at 114,848, that would mean a shift of a mere 0. 076% of the total popular vote from Trump to Harris in his 2nd term run vs Harris for her 1st term run would have flipped the outcome.

Yes, I would consider that a historic squeaker win for a 2nd term presidential candidate. Easily among the squeakiest if not the squeakiest of all time.

https://www.breitbart.com/2024-elect...emocrat-brand/

[Xpartan]

Read the articles. Take out everything the writer says (that's not Trump talking, that's literally the writer's words, not his)

"Reading the articles by taking out everything the writer says" is a very novel approach. Did you train long?

now point out the part where trump himself actually says he will threaten to lock up Hunter Biden without an investigation, or anybody else.

So it wasn't a threat because Trump didn't SPECIFICALLY threaten to lock him up by forgoing the due process? Is that the gist of your statement?

[MarquisdeSade1]

Tiny, I was being sarcastic. Hunter has one buyer for most of his art work. During the trial, the prosecution tried to call as a witness the buyer. Are you ready for the funny part? The CIA would not let the prosecution do that. So in essence, the CIA was buying Hunter's art work. That is how bad the swamp is. Hunter no longer had to take bribes from Ukraine and China. He could take them from the CIA.

Of course, that is now gone.

Joe Biden probably carved himself out a $100 or 200 million dollar golden parachute for stepping down, so he no longer needs Hunter or rather Jill no longer needs Hunter to take bribes for Joe.

The funny part about Xpartan's post is that he thinks Trump is going to go after Hunter like Hunter is clean now. If that mother fucker Hunter is not in jail in five years, I would be shocked, Trump or no Trump. He is a psychopath, a deviant, and an addict who was used and abused by his father. It is actually kind of sad. I probably would have ended up just like Hunter if Joe Biden were my father.

But probably spot on also.

Imagine if you will Hunter sitting in a cell for trafficking heroin and / or fentanyl for CCPland, all strung out on dope, willing to spill the beans on the whole Scumbag Biden crew.

"just let me out of here, I really need a fix" ROTFLMMFAO!!

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/...-biden-pardon/

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/...long-cover-up/

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/...biden-pardons/

https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/...end-of-a-scam/

I'd scumbag Joe thinking of this also, and pardons the whole lot of them to preemptively protect them all from the Junkie?

[EihTooms]

The Kremlin could not be more delighted by their Puppet Trump's Cabinet nominees and Administration staff appointments. All that messaging and "news" copy passed to and through Fux News, Sinclair News, Congressional Repubs, etc and into the enthusiasticslly receptive skulls of MAGAs, Direct Repubs and Bothsider / Neithersiders really paid off.

However, as everyone here knows by now, they also need to give a special nod of thanks to that relative handful of angry Netanyahu-hating but now regretful Muslims spread across the only three battleground / swing states that mattered in determining the winner and came through beautifully for the Kremlin's purposes.

Well, I suppose that really means they owe a great debt to Netanyahu himself, really.

KremlinTV Gushes About Trump's Cabinet Picks.
"If they are allowed to get in, they will quickly dismantle America, brick by brick. They are so great!

https://crooksandliars.com/2024/12/k...trumps-cabinet

The Russians can't believe their unbelievable luck, bragging that "if they are allowed to get in, they will quickly dismantle America, brick by brick. They are so great! he said.

Source: Daily Beast

The incoming Trump administration fills Russian state TV propagandists with glee. In mid-November, when president-elect Donald Trump started to announce his future appointees, state TV host Olga Skabeeva gushed, All of them are totally wonderful!

Evgeny Popov, Skabeevas husband and the co-host of Russias 60 Minutes, concurred, describing Trumps picks as his radical dream team and gleefully noting, All of them personally despise Zelensky. He cautiously added, They arent friends of Russia, except for Tulsi Gabbard.

For years, Gabbards propensity for spouting talking points that neatly aligned with the Kremlins agenda was seen as a boon for Moscow, with state TV host Vladimir Solovyov referring to the former congresswoman as our girlfriend and agreeing with pundits who described her as Putins agent.
..........
During Sundays broadcast of a state TV show The Evening With Vladimir Solovyova program that Russian President Vladimir Putin reportedly watches on a regular basishost Vladimir Solovyov rejoiced about Trumps picks.

"What an excellent team is coming along with Trump! Not with respect to Ukraine, but as far as everything else goes. If they are allowed to get in, they will quickly dismantle America, brick by brick. They are so great! he said.

After airing a clip of Patel threatening to upend the FBIs operations, Solovyov continued, Trumps nominee to head the FBI, Kash Patel, is simply on fire... Hes tremendous! Really, really good.

Of course, even if Senate Repubs grow a temporary pair and reject this first round of Kremlin-pleasing candidates Trump will simply nominate a second round of Kremlin-pleasing candidates. And the bulk of the damage has already been done; every World Leader, ally and foe alike, now knows beyond all doubt that Trump is a weak, silly, clownish Puppet of whatever America-hating enemy of freedom and democracy chooses to buy him off and pull his strings.

And, no, none of them has any reason whatsoever to suspect he is only pretending to be a know nothing clown in order to swoop in at some point in the future and out maneuver America's adversaries. LOL. No chance of that after witnessing his disastrous failed Trade Negotiations with Xi and his horrific blunder in ushering in, mishandling and exacerbating Trump's Pandemic last time around. And that was with at least 2-3 adult guard rails in his midst to keep him from REALLY screwing up top much. LOL. Nothing like that on hand this time around.

[Sirioja]

Not even president yet, but orange crazy dangerous shameful Trump already wants to show to the world, choosing number 1 in the world for tourism, my little so beautiful France. But I don't welcome his lack of respect. He should better stay in Florida. Under Biden, he had contacts with crazy dangerous shameful Putin, kind of twins, when he doesn't even respect US constitution. Both dangerous for our world.

[Asian Steve 22]

What exactly constitutes a threat in your opinion? Literally.

Literally means literally, LOL. Real talk, not a writer saying that's what he's insinuating. Did he ever say he's threatening to just put people in jail for no reason? No he literally didn't. After all the millions they spent for 7 years trying to investigate trump and lock him up, if you're going to be clutching your pearls now that he's "threatening" to investigate others for wrong doing, then you literally have a hypocrisy issue. No he never threatened to just round people up he doesn't like for no reason. There's nothing wrong with investigating people. Were you this outraged about State DAs running for office saying they'll nail trump to attract voters? Not investigate, they promised convictions without even seeing evidence first hand. I'm sure you weren't. But yeah, fear the orange man, and not the people that did the same things to him that now they are afraid he'll reciprocate that exact treatment.

[Asian Steve 22]

It's hilarious that after 6 years and millions of dollars spent by democrats investigating Trump for such heinous acts like inflating the value of his real estate, which 100% of real estate investors do, seeing whether Trump really had golden shower parties with prostitutes, and Trump stealing the 2016 election, now you're going to be pearl clutching about Trump hinting he might investigate others lives equally. That's quite hypocritical. For all the millions they spent on Trump, they never spent 1 dime investigating who "the big guy" was that hunter Biden kept referring to in his now verified laptop (another thing they refused to investigate, a 3rd party had to do the legwork to verify it was really his because democrats refused to spend 1 dime investigating that) . They should refuse to honor the pardon until hunter provides that information. Who the hell is "the big guy" that's got a sizable cut off the money hunter negotiated from Burisma.

Trump Vowed To Go After Political Rivals If Re ElectedHeres Who Could Be Targeted

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroe...ld-be-targeted

Trump makes more than 100 threats to prosecute or punish perceived enemies

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/22/nx-s1...ceived-enemies

Donald Trump threatens to imprison Biden, Harris, Pelosi, and others. Experts are worried

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ls/75060866007

What exactly constitutes a threat in your opinion? Literally..

[Asian Steve 22]

Read the articles. Take out everything the writer says (that's not Trump talking, that's literally the writer's words, not his) now point out the part where trump himself actually says he will threaten to lock up Hunter Biden without an investigation, or anybody else.

Trump Vowed To Go After Political Rivals If Re ElectedHeres Who Could Be Targeted

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroe...ld-be-targeted

Trump makes more than 100 threats to prosecute or punish perceived enemies

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/22/nx-s1...ceived-enemies

Donald Trump threatens to imprison Biden, Harris, Pelosi, and others. Experts are worried.

[Xpartan]

He literally said he would consider pardoning biden. He didn't threaten biden other than call for an investigation on him. Which of you're innocent, that's not a serious threat.

Trump Vowed To Go After Political Rivals If Re ElectedHeres Who Could Be Targeted

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroe...ld-be-targeted

Trump makes more than 100 threats to prosecute or punish perceived enemies

https://www.npr.org/2024/10/22/nx-s1...ceived-enemies

Donald Trump threatens to imprison Biden, Harris, Pelosi, and others. Experts are worried

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ls/75060866007

The threat comes just a couple weeks after Trump circulated Truth Social posts calling for military tribunals against former President Barack Obama and for indicting the House committee that investigated the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the Capitol. He shared with his followers another user's post depicting rivals in jumpsuits, including President Joe Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris, and former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

What exactly constitutes a threat in your opinion? Literally.

I bet your tone would be totally different if trump gave donald Jr immunity for anything that went on with the trump organization. But rant on

He still might. The night is young.

[Elvis 2008]

Whenever they want.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gaetz-w...gations-venmo/

Two women interviewed by the House Ethics Committee about former GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida, President-elect Donald Trump's pick to be attorney general, testified that Gaetz paid them directly and repeatedly in Venmo transactions "for sex," and that those transactions were obtained by the committee, an attorney for the women told CBS News.

The attorney, Joel Leppard, also said the women testified that Gaetz inquired in text messages about "party favors" and "vitamins" at upcoming parties, which was understood to be code for drugs.

Leppard said the House panel asked the women about Gaetz's PayPal and Venmo transactions.

"'What was this for? What was this for, Leppard said his clients were asked.

"'This was for sex, he said they responded. "'This was for sex. This was for sex. '.

End of link. So this is where Democratic douches are so naive. Why the fuck would these women hire a fucking attorney to admit that they committed the crime of prostitution? That this asshole Leppard comes out and admits these women committed the crime of prostitution means they have had a deal cut with LE.

And there is more.

"My clients are not political; they didn't vote in the last two elections they don't care one way or another," Leppard told Garrett. "But they do want the public to know that they are not lying. They did not come forward willingly they have never spoken to anyone without a force of a legal subpoena. ".

End of link. A lawyer cannot say something like this unless he has cut a deal with LE, and he is saying what LE wants him to say. Oh yeah, my clients sure are telling the truth about prostitution. Yes, Gaetz paid for sex, and these women took money for sex, but Gaetz is way, way, way worse. Uh, why is that?

What makes matters worse is you have some former DOJ official try to shake down the father of Gaetz for $25 million. If Gaetz father pays him $25 million, he is told the whole thing goes away.

Can you imagine what would happen if some pimp used the testimony of his prostitutes to shake down clients? But the DOJ does it, and Democratic douches are okay with it because they think the DOJ would never be used against them.

The temptation is to use this technique to go after the Democratic douches when the DOJ is under MAGA control. We might have to do this because these male Democratic Soy Boy douches like Spidy are convinced that these hookers and porn stars really like them versus wanting to stay out of jail. First it was lying Stormy Daniels and the felon Micheal Cohen with Trump criminally and after that it was use uber scumbag Joel Greenberg who produced a fake ID for some 17 year old hooker to snare Gaetz in a honeypot scheme.

How is Gaetz the bad guy when you have Willie Brown and Fani Willis using public funds to get their rocks off? And the DOJ owns these women who admitted to taking money for sex more than any pimp ever could. That creates a climate rife for sexual abuse. The DOJ's $25 million shakedown was likely the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the DOJ and its self serving ways.

It was this kind of shit that made me leave the hobby in the USA. It used to be there was a mutually assured destruction with hookers. Now the DOJ is so sexist all the hookers are victims not criminals and the men alone are criminals / traffickers, and you have fools like Spidy the Soy Boy who are fine with that sexist approach to justice. The only way any man could be for this is if he lives abroad.

[Tiny 12]

What was the percentage point gap in the states that put those 2nd term presidential runs at or over 270? If a shift of significantly LESS than 0. 09 point of the total votes, factoring in the shift in those states, where we are with Trump now, would have flipped the outcome, then, yeah they were more of a 2nd term squeaker win than Trump's 2nd term contest won in 2024.

I'll let you do the research and math on that...

Either way, I am impressed that Trump is at least enough of an effective con man that he has convinced anyone that both of his contests combined that netted hundreds of thousands fewer votes than his opposition were "landslides" and "mandates. "..

I'm not sure why we're arguing. I don't think there's been anything close to a "mandate" in favor of a president since Reagan in 1984. Do you agree?

And I don't buy your reasoning. If in 2020 Trump had gotten 11,000 more votes in Georgia, 20,000 more votes in Wisconsin, etc. , to add up to your 43,000 votes, then he probably would have gotten more votes in California, Texas and other states and won by a lot more than 43,000 votes. But why would you segment votes by state anyway, in trying to determine if someone has a so called "mandate"? Wouldn't it be better to look at the total, national popular vote?

But this time it would be helpful if you at least included a link, a screenshot, showing your math, something, anything rather than just, you know, saying it.

Read it and weep:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ar_vote_margin

You're perfectly capable of finding a list of results of presidential elections to check me all by yourself. Don't expect help next time. You won't learn if you don't struggle.

I did however make a mistake. I should have written, "Trump of course got both a larger % of the popular vote and more electoral votes in 2024 than 2016."

[EihTooms]

First of all, kudos to AP for finally being roused out its coma to update their vote count and coming off of that "rounding up" to 50.0% for Trump nonsense. Now they are "rounding up" to 49.9% for him.

https://apnews.com/projects/election...2024/?office=P

However, it still appears the Cook Political Report Vote Tracker is on it with an even more recent count, putting it at 49.79% for Trump vs 48.31% for Harris or a difference of 1. 48 point between them. (See screenshot below).

https://www.cookpolitical.com/vote-t...ctoral-college

Scroll down on this site to Results for the latest / easiest source for the vote count in the only three states that separated a Trump win from a Harris win, PA, MI and WI:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024...ntial_election

Doing the math and showing my work (I have typed a lot of numbers with my thumb so forgive me if I mistyped a digit or 2 here. But I don't think that or an update on the overall and state counts would change much), I see that, as of this writing, the number of votes for either Trump or Harris is:

Trump = 77,256,496.

Harris = 74,969,287.

Total for both = 152,225,783.

The vote advantage for Trump in those three states that mattered is:

PA = +120,299.

MI = +80,103.

WI = +29,397.

Total = +229,729.

Of course, all of the 229,729 votes spread across those three states would not have needed to shift from Trump to Harris in order for her to win and Trump to lose. Only half plus 1 in each of those states would have done it:

229,729 divided by 2 = 114,844. 5 angry, Netanyahu-hating but now regretful Muslims.

"Round up" to 114,845 angry, Netanyahu-hating but now regretful Muslims, add 1 more to each of those three states just to make sure and at 114,848, that would mean a shift of a mere 0. 076% of the total popular vote from Trump to Harris in his 2nd term run vs Harris for her 1st term run would have flipped the outcome.

Yes, I would consider that a historic squeaker win for a 2nd term presidential candidate. Easily among the squeakiest if not the squeakiest of all time.