Jakarta

[Exoticspirit]

Anyways glad you enjoyed the place none the less. So you didn't end up checking out Terminal 5 up above?

Also I have never had a girl take me to an elevator or lift yet, they always just take me to stairs either on the side by the bitchy girls or on the side by the pool tables. I'm assuming the elevator is for back up rooms when all the other rooms are unavailable I guess?

If you don't mind I'd like to know more about Raja Ampat as well, even regular tourist type activities, either thru pm or in the corresponding thread

-Gabacho.

I didn't bother going up to Terminal 5 or any of the other spas / clubs in the same complex after reading that rates for girls in those venues are much higher than at Terminal 2. Besides, there were more than enough to choose at Terminal 2 anyway.

Now one thing I found about Jakarta in general was that it's pretty low on tourist activities. My Grab already drove past the monument park area and I didn't feel I needed to dedicate any time to actually going there separately. I'm sure food at various neighbourhoods would have been a hoot but I didn't have time to figure out where and how to get to them. I did try the Joni Steak place near Classic and although the price was decent, I really didn't travel half way around the world for a western style middle of the road steak and potatoes dinner. I wanted Indonesian food and to my surprise, the free breakfast I got right at the downstairs cafe at Classic hotel was actually pretty decent. Even for breakfast they had lots of different choices and I sampled pretty well everything since most were Indonesian fare I never tried before.

As far as Raja Ampat, it's a four hour flight east from Jakarta to a little town called Sorong which itself is a dump. Less traffic than Jakarta but garbage all over the place and no tourist stuff at all. It's really a springboard for us scuba divers catching our liveaboard boats at the pier there or a boat transfer to an island based dive resort. Although the islands in Raja Ampat away from Sorong are unspoiled and gorgeous, there's no infrastructure developed for general tourism. It's certainly not Bali.

[Xpartan]

With over 25 years of travel for business, 2000+ hotel nights, I've developed habits and instincts that work for me that may or may not work for everyone. Yes, I've been dumbed and misread the situations a few times, but just like anything in life, you adopt and do things that work, and avoid that don't. I've been following this forum for a long time, and my sole purpose is to learn and share, I try not to judge, criticize, argue, disrespect anyone because truth is broad and nuanced with no straight answers, you have to experience them to shape your own opinion. So I don't expect everyone to agree with me.

I didn't mean to criticize. Just remembered a troubling episode from my past and thought I'd offer a word of caution.

Your safety measures and your experience seem quite capable of mitigating risks. Like I said, I still bring girls on multiday sojourns, although not often since I prefer sleeping alone anyway. But occasionally, you still meet someone you want to be around for longer than an hour, so it's all good. I still don't give them a key, but since they're registered they can come upstairs and knock on the door. That's not a foolproof measure, though.

Funnily, I mostly play in Brazil and have never had a theft issue (as far as I know), so there might be something you and I do right, LOL.

[StinkyFeet]

OMG! I did not know that was what I was doing. I guess I will have to stop. But I have a slight problem. What am I now going to do with the 10 boxes of 18 (100 MG) pills of sildenafil I just bought for 1,534,000? That's 180 pills! It comes to 34,089 for a box of 4. Sure beats your 110,000 for a box of 4. 8522 is ($0. 57) per pill.

LMAO this forum is hilarious. Discussing the morality of groping a driver versus raw dogging a village girl.

[June Fly]

That sounds very reassuring, it is very important for me as well and it makes sense to ask the girl before committing to choose her, translate app says 'ciuman perancis yang dalam' as a translation for DFK, hope it makes sense to the girl. Thanks for the advise.

Hopefully rejecting the girl doesn't piss off the mamasan too much considering Classic will be repeated more than once in the iteniary.

Yes, Bahasa Indonesia is straight forward, just like Malay literally translatable to word by word.

No at all. To be fair, I've been rejected by a few. I don't take it personally because different people appeal differently around different people, so why should they? The main reason I think is lack of familiarity or had some bad experience with foreigners. My experience is overly positive compared to other SEA countries.

[StudPlayer]

Gabacho your inbox is full. Please clean it out.

[June Fly]

In early 2000's I stayed in a nice suite at an upscale Bangkok hotel. The day before my departure she came to my room when I wasn't there. She cleaned everything from the bathroom, including shampoo bottles and my used toothbrush. It was a very nicely appointed suite, so she stole some nice figurines, two small bookend elephants inlaid with some semi-precious stones (I presume), a pack of wonderful jasmine tea that I bought in China Town (that was a huge bummer because I wanted to bring it home but didn't have time to go back there) and a couple of travel books. And of course, she raided my minibar and helped herself to two bottles of wine with glasses.

BTW, don't presume that if you don't give her the key, you're safe. If she's smart, she can easily get the card at the front desk. Why not, she's a registered guest. For airbnb, just don't give her a key, that's it.

No need to be paranoid, IMHO, I've done the same thing since then and never had a problem.

Since my original post kicked off a storm on this topic, I'd like to add. Sure there are dishonest, cheaters everywhere, but there are distinct cultural and risk differences between places like Jakarta, Indonesia, and Medellin, Colombia. I've visited Medellin and spent time with Colombian and Venezuelan girls from Parque Lleras. There, I prefer to stay at Hotel Dix in El Poblado, where Mr. John and the staff watch my back. They are dutiful about guest safety, ensuring every girl's ID is copied and call the room to check with you if everything is okay before they allow the girl to leave.

In Colombia, Brazil, and Vietnam, while the girls are alluring but they are also notorious, so I never give my key card in these locations. However, I find Indonesian girls to be generally sweet, shy, and occasionally nervous about meeting a foreigner. If a girl feels uncomfortable to walk of shame to my room, I meet them in a public area like the hotel lobby, bar, or restaurant first, and once everything seems fine, I'll give them a second key card to follow me to the elevator to my room. If I don't feel right, I give some money and send them back. I always get the card back once they're in the room. If the girl doesn't return the card or doesn't show up, I go to the front desk to deactivate and get a new one. I always get a second key card not just for this reason but to keep a spare in my wallet in case I forget to grab the primary one from the key card holder when leaving the room. It saves a trip to the front desk if I accidentally lock myself out. I also ensure my room is girl-proofed by keeping my passport, laptop, valuables in the safe. In Jakarta, it's safe to take the bar girls to your hotel room the spend the night with, both the mamasan and bar management care about their reputation, they get IDs of the girl, customer, and the license plates of the Grab / Gojek that comes to pick up when leaving.

With over 25 years of travel for business, 2000+ hotel nights, I've developed habits and instincts that work for me that may or may not work for everyone. Yes, I've been dumbed and misread the situations a few times, but just like anything in life, you adopt and do things that work, and avoid that don't. I've been following this forum for a long time, and my sole purpose is to learn and share, I try not to judge, criticize, argue, disrespect anyone because truth is broad and nuanced with no straight answers, you have to experience them to shape your own opinion. So I don't expect everyone to agree with me.

[ArnoldNe]

At Classic, I never had any issue in asking and getting DFK. When I was new to Classic, I used to ask Mamasan, but now directly to the girl whether she likes kissing in my broken Bahasa Indonesia ("Apa Kamu Suka Berciuman?) To me DFK is a must, if the girl says no or shows any sign of hesitation, I skip and move to the next girl. Most girls I took at Classic either enjoyed DFK or at least were willing participants. Even Kota Indah, South Jakarta, West Jakarta bars, I would say over half the girls are open to DFK. The only bar I didn't have much luck for DFK is Hotel Travel, so I stopped going there after my first visit, I heard from others they got DFK, but I didn't attempt going there again, why waste my time and money when there are plenty of other options. My DFK rule tips are: 200K for amazing, 100K for good (most fall under this bucket), 50K for average, no tip for no DFK.

That sounds very reassuring, it is very important for me as well and it makes sense to ask the girl before committing to choose her, translate app says 'ciuman perancis yang dalam' as a translation for DFK, hope it makes sense to the girl. Thanks for the advise.

Hopefully rejecting the girl doesn't piss off the mamasan too much considering Classic will be repeated more than once in the iteniary.

[June Fly]

Indonesia was my final country in my four countries tour which also included Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand (reports on those already posted). It was just a single night stay since my main thing here is a week long scuba diving trip in Raja Ampat, a much more remote area of Indonesia.

Flying in from Bangkok, I took the airport link train to city centre and then a Grab to Classic Hotel so I could simply go downstairs to take in the Classic Terminal 2 which is the most talked about mongering venue in Jakarta.

Although previous reports suggested we go early to this venue about 6-7 pm, that timing didn't work out for me and I ended up going at 10 pm. Sure enough the place which is like a huge nightclub inside, was hopping. At the entrance, staff puts on a bracelet on your wrist with a number. This number will be used to track your orders and activities during your visit.

The session starts with shower for two as the girl cleans you. Then when you get on the bed, they use tissue to further clean your cock. My girl actually wiped it with some Listerine. Then the BBBJ starts without any foreplay or kissing on lips before hand. After a while she asked me if ready for condom and FS. Not true GFE since no kissing.

At Classic, I never had any issue in asking and getting DFK. When I was new to Jakarta, I used to ask the Mamasan, but now directly to the girl whether she likes kissing in my broken Bahasa Indonesia ("Apa Kamu Suka Berciuman?) To me DFK is a must, if the girl says no or shows any sign of hesitation, I skip and move to the next girl. Most girls I took at Classic either enjoyed DFK or at least were willing participants. Even Kota Indah, South Jakarta, West Jakarta bars, I would say over half the girls are open to DFK. The only bar I didn't have much luck for DFK is Hotel Travel, so I stopped going there after my first visit, I heard from others they got DFK, but I didn't attempt going there again, why waste my time and money when there are plenty of other options. My DFK rule tips are: 200K for amazing, 100K for good (most fall under this bucket), 50K for average, no tip for no DFK.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

First and foremost I am Agnostic, so no need to push your religious views on me, they are falling on deaf ears. And there is a big difference between asking women who are already engaging in prostitution and foregoing condoms with their local customers and boyfriends, and selling their bodies for money, to go bareback versus disrespecting and humiliating regular women in the public civilian world just trying to earn an honest living.

Furthermore just because I don't like to use condoms doesn't mean I am not playing responsibly. Have you not heard of Acyclovir, Doxycycline and Descovy? Also I got Gardasil 9 vaccine (all 3 doses) series completed months before I got here. I also received Twinrix, Jynneos, Typhim VI, and Bexsero among other vaccines before I arrived here as well.

Also I have a vasectomy too since 2008.

So on the contrary, I think I am playing very responsibly.

Nice attempt tho.

-Gabacho.

Strange how someone comes onto a mongering forum and starts preaching about "god", right? I'm atheist, but like you, I would say my sense of ethics and morals are higher than 90% of others on this forum.

[Gabacho]

She caught my eye sitting on the sofa nearest to the cashiers. Sitting the group with my beloved Shentiya from my very first visit here to T2 back in early November. I went up to her to kiss her hand and introduce myself. She said her name was Mauhoney or Mahoney something like that (kind of sounds like mahogany).

Very beautifully colored orangish red hair in curls, cute rounded face and a body that is somewhat curvy but not too big. Fair skin, said she was Sundanese from Bandung.

I quickly pay the mami 370 k. Mahogany goes to grab her bag and come back quickly. Mami comes back and hands me 5 k crumpled up into my pal of my hand like as if we had made a drug deal. She also hards the ticket to mahogany and off the the room we go.

A quick 5 minutes chuchi shower as I admire her body. We then towel off and I have her sit on the edge of the bed and lay back. I get down on my knees, spread her legs and perform DATY. She doesn't resist. Her pussy tasted sweet and doesn't have any odor. She seems to be enjoying it or atleast faking very well that she is enjoying it. With moaning and even grabbing my bald head to pull me in closer. Shit was so hot I got super duper hard. I reach for my bottle of Platinum Wet silicone lubricant and lather blanquito up real good while still eating her delicious pussy.

I them climb up and penetrate her bareback without even asking if I could or how much extra money or anything. She doesn't resist. She acts as if she wants it just as bad as I do. She does ask me if I am clean to which I reply yes and I tell her I have a vasectomy too.

We then make passionate love with me thrusting as hard and deep as possible while also kissing her and she let me put my tongue in her mouth. It was one of my best sessions yet at T2. Had her get on top and twerk for a bit until she got tired and lost her rhythm, then I got back on top and finished inside her while doing so power thrusts in the pile driver position. Shit was hot hot hottt.

Afterwards she gave me a really great pijit kaki and pijit ini and back massage too until the phone rings to let us know it's time to say out farewells and get dressed.

I also got a selfie with this gorgeous Sundanese beauty.

Tipped her 150 k because I was so happy with the level of service.

Even on a Sunday Classic is great.

-Gabacho.

[Xpartan]

I'm curious to know what happened. That's why I find it hard to sleep when I've a girl in my room.

In early 2000's I stayed in a nice suite at an upscale Bangkok hotel. The day before my departure she came to my room when I wasn't there. She cleaned everything from the bathroom, including shampoo bottles and my used toothbrush. It was a very nicely appointed suite, so she stole some nice figurines, two small bookend elephants inlaid with some semi-precious stones (I presume), a pack of wonderful jasmine tea that I bought in China Town (that was a huge bummer because I wanted to bring it home but didn't have time to go back there) and a couple of travel books. And of course, she raided my minibar and helped herself to two bottles of wine with glasses.

She might've stolen other stuff but this is what I remember.

It really helped that I totally girl-proofed the room before bringing her there. Kept everything valuable in the safe at all times.

The front desk manager took it easy on me and mostly giggled enjoying my embarrassment. She only charged me about 4 K baht, which I gladly paid. Later on, she brought a laptop and showed me the thief who they caught on every camera when leaving the hotel. The stupid cow was wearing a wide straw hat and carrying a large beach bag. What was she trying to hide when the hotel had her ID anyway? Beats me. She also told me the elephants were the most expensive thing she stole, and I'm not surprised, they looked great.

Anyway, if you're staying in a regular room and want to register the girl, I don't think it's dangerous. There is nothing to steal anyway. Just girlproof your valuables and tell the staff to remove the contents of the minibar (yes, you can do that).

Second, never tell them when you check out. Although, I guess she can find out at the front desk.

But I think if you're staying at an airbnb or suite decorated with some knickknacks, you have to be careful.

BTW, don't presume that if you don't give her the key, you're safe. If she's smart, she can easily get the card at the front desk. Why not, she's a registered guest. For airbnb, just don't give her a key, that's it.

No need to be paranoid, IMHO, I've done the same thing since then and never had a problem.

[ArnoldNe]

Indonesia was my final country in my four countries tour which also included Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand (reports on those already posted). It was just a single night stay since my main thing here is a week long scuba diving trip in Raja Ampat, a much more remote area of Indonesia.

Flying in from Bangkok, I took the airport link train to city centre and then a Grab to Classic Hotel so I could simply go downstairs to take in the Classic Terminal 2 which is the most talked about mongering venue in Jakarta..

Very descriptive FR, I wonder if it is the girls that you came across with this approach or is that general practice at Classic, because I have read many FRs mention the DFK etc aspect, also is it possible to engage the girls in a more involved act (DFK, make out) with a slightly higher tip like say 100 k, Mr. Johnson has a mind of his own and he can't go up with the push of a button, it needs to be wooed with sensuality to get in the act.

[Gabacho]

Indonesia was my final country in my four countries tour which also included Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand (reports on those already posted). It was just a single night stay since my main thing here is a week long scuba diving trip in Raja Ampat, a much more remote area of Indonesia.

Flying in from Bangkok, I took the airport link train to city centre and then a Grab to Classic Hotel so I could simply go downstairs to take in the Classic Terminal 2 which is the most talked about mongering venue in Jakarta.

Although previous reports suggested we go early to this venue about 6-7 pm, that timing didn't work out for me and I ended up going at 10 pm. Sure enough the place which is like a huge nightclub inside, was hopping. At the entrance, staff puts on a bracelet on your wrist with a number. This number will be used to track your orders and activities during your visit.. .

Excelente Report brother. I'm glad you enjoyed classic. A note about kissing, it is available but hit and miss depending on the girl. I have had some who will turn their face away as I attempt to kiss them, others will allow some kissing but mostly just pecks, and a few have allowed tounge in mouth DFK. I even had one that was sucking my tounge into her mouth. There was one the other day who had a tounge piercing and allowed tounge in mouth kissing, she was fun. Whiter skinned and wears bunny ears.

Anyways glad you enjoyed the place none the less. So you didn't end up checking out Terminal 5 up above?

Also I have never had a girl take me to an elevator or lift yet, they always just take me to stairs either on the side by the bitchy girls or on the side by the pool tables. I'm assuming the elevator is for back up rooms when all the other rooms are unavailable I guess?

If you don't mind I'd like to know more about Raja Ampat as well, even regular tourist type activities, either thru pm or in the corresponding thread.

Anyways great report bro.

-Gabacho.

[Exoticspirit]

Indonesia was my final country in my four countries tour which also included Vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand (reports on those already posted). It was just a single night stay since my main thing here is a week long scuba diving trip in Raja Ampat, a much more remote area of Indonesia.

Flying in from Bangkok, I took the airport link train to city centre and then a Grab to Classic Hotel so I could simply go downstairs to take in the Classic Terminal 2 which is the most talked about mongering venue in Jakarta.

Although previous reports suggested we go early to this venue about 6-7 pm, that timing didn't work out for me and I ended up going at 10 pm. Sure enough the place which is like a huge nightclub inside, was hopping. At the entrance, staff puts on a bracelet on your wrist with a number. This number will be used to track your orders and activities during your visit.

As soon as you walk inside, waiting mamasans will intercept you and try to take you to one of the small round tables in the middle of the club. There was a stage with some dancers and along most of the walls of the club were either single or double rows of sofas where the girls were sitting. The estimates of over 200 girls might be correct and they were all dressed to kill in short dresses and high heels. Most were quite young in their 20's and maybe some in 30's but certainly no milfs here. One one far side of the club were some pool tables.

As soon as I ordered a drink, the mamasans brought girls over. They wasted no time but I kept telling them that I just wanted to enjoy my drink first. But five minutes later they would use laser pointers to point to girls and instruct them to come over. Multiple mamasans each in charge of different sofas of girls would bring a single girl one at a time and sometimes they would bring a lineup of 5-7 of them.

They really push us to choose a girl. Whenever we decline to choose one, they seem to get annoyed but I didn't let that faze me since I'm the paying customer and they soon realized that I was not to be rushed.

Even though they can be annoying by constantly laser pointing and bringing girls over, it's also kind of funny at the same time. I've never experienced such pushiness by a mamasan before.

It's also good to get the girls on their feet because some of them looked kind of bored just sitting there. They are definitely not as interactive with potential customers as say Thai girls at Soi 6 or a massage fishbowl. So the mamasans kind of helps break the boredom of girls just sitting and waiting.

Once I picked my lady, I paid her mamasan 365 K Indonesian which is about $32 Cad. This is a real bargain for an hour session. My girl led me to an elevator where they had a staff dude operate it. There are rooms on multiple floors with shower but no bathroom.

The session starts with shower for two as the girl cleans you. Then when you get on the bed, they use tissue to further clean your cock. My girl actually wiped it with some Listerine. Then the BBBJ starts without any foreplay or kissing on lips before hand. After a while she asked me if ready for condom and FS. Not true GFE since no kissing.

My girl washed me up again in the shower and as some previously reported, asked me for a top. I have the 50 K if she agreed to take a photo with me.

When we walked out of our room, Indonesia's version of Tijuana cum boys were waiting to enter and clean the room. Hand in hand my lady took me on a confusing reverse route back to the nightclub.

After bidding my girl goodbye I went to a glasses counter where a team of cashiers tallied up my drink cost. After paying I was handed a wooden piece with a slip probably with details of my payment in full which I handed to the main door hostesses.

I returned the next day at their 2 pm opening. I was worried that there would be no girls there that early but upon entry, there were about 30-30 girls on the sofas. There only several customers which made this afternoon a more pleasant visit since many Asian customers smoke.

My second girl looked pretty bored but when her mamasan told her to come down and meet me, she became very bubbly when she learned that I picked her. Session with her was similar to my first session last night except this lady did not wipe my cock with Listerine. Had a nice time with this girl too even though like the first one, did not kiss nor do any foreplay.

I was a bit annoyed during my first night that staff did not give me any change back. It's not a big amount as I was cheated only about $1. 50 Cad. The next day I was more on top of this and both mamasan and the cashier were good in giving change.

Overall, this operation is quite impressive. With multiple staff and over 200 available girls, this is like a monger's gem as long as you can live with no kissing and absolutely nothing much to do as far as tourism attractions here. But if you want hot girls for cheap, this destination might work well for you.

And you can't beat the 365 K price for girls this nice looking. Incidently, you can have two girls for 500 K.

Thanks to all who help answer questions I had about Jakarta this year. Hope newbies can learn something about this place.

[Delbo1]

1. Hang onto that bracelet they give you on entry. A girl said it was a 2 million fee for exit without one.

2. On the girls, the four I've seen all had the same Listerine process before getting started. They would dab some on tissue paper and wipe everything down on you they planned on putting their mouth on. Your junk, nipples, neck, etc. A bit clinical for my tastes but when in Rome.

3. They get what I think is surprisingly little from the fee. I think she said it was 100 k out of 365 k, and 90 k each out of the the 500 k. It's no wonder they press a bit for tips, and the standard 100 k seems reasonable.

4. It is absurdly smokey for a non-smoker like me. It'd par for the course that's Jakarta. Heat, rain, traffic, and cigarettes. Only one girl asked to light up afterwards. It's reminiscent of Bangkok or Medelland clubs of old, before they banned indoors smoking.

I took a 3 some at classic and one for the girls proceeded to light up in the make out room had to wait 15 minutes for her to finish. Then I'm sure I was short on time as well phone rang only felt like 40 mins total if that. Will be using countdown timer on phone and showing it to housekeeping when exchanging receipt.