Medellin Reports

[Hobo3]

The killer is also that most of the guys looking for a legitimate relationship are interacting with pros or semi-pros. That's not going to work. If you live there, if you speak Spanish, if you date non-hooker women that are within 15 years of your age, you can establish a legitimate LT relationship (pretty much like in the US or Europe).

Mixing mongering with trying to establish a LT relationship is hazardous.

Excellent point.

You have to remember, a lot of men that come to sex tourist locations disproportionately are complete idiots and simps. I have seen women who sleep with 5 guys a week, get wifed up, even if only temporarily, with a loser who's been sending them 100's of dollars a week. And when their relationship collapses, because he finds out that she's still been sleeping with other guys on the side for extra money or has real Colombian boyfriend, the guy finds another prostitute to repeat the same process. Complete idiots, man. Picking a sex tourist destination for a wife is imbecilic behavior.

[ChikSika]

I've been coming to Medellin for the past 7 years now, post divorce from a really bad and largely sex-less marriage, and getting my kids into college. I eventually started a business here with an office to support my business and clients in the USA, which is going well, so now I have a reason to be here beyond mongering.

I did have the thought that I might eventually meet a proper woman here, that would meet my superficial requirements in looks and age and also be kind, good hearted and reasonably intelligent. I've dated a few women along that vein but for different reasons it hasn't really worked out. Actually, in the 3 cases I can recall, I spent time and money (dinners, Pueblo visits, trip to Guatape, etc) and did not even get laid.

Meanwhile, I've had amazing times with the young semi pros I've met here on Tinder and Bumble, and lived out about every sexual fantasy imaginable. Last night one young Paisa I'm familiar with brought her friend over and I had an awesome time getting tag teamed by them last night and again this morning. Before they left they cleaned up my apartment. I gave them their 'gifts' and sent them on my way.

I then had a free Sunday, unencumbered to do some personal things, cook, chill and watch NFL. I think to myself, why the hell would I pursue any kind of proper relationship. I'm not giving this lifestyle up! This is why I got divorced! I think the romantic side in many of us may wonder if we could be truly happy in a committed, monogamous relationship. However, I think it's an unrealistic fantasy. Besides, from the fact we are all on this message board, I would think we all share a common aversion for monogamy and a strong interest in banging a variety hot young women.

I appreciate all the great info and insights on this board and will try to contribute more.

Cheers, Chiksika.

[Combo]

The killer for those type of relationships is the endgame. How does the young lady get out of the relationship with money to live on? Or, what happens when the guy kicks off and leaves his money to his family? Sometimes the lady will produce a baby in the hopes that the baby inherits the foreigner's money. Unless the foreigner insists on a DNA test. Oops.

The killer is also that most of the guys looking for a legitimate relationship are interacting with pros or semi-pros. That's not going to work. If you live there, if you speak Spanish, if you date non-hooker women that are within 15 years of your age, you can establish a legitimate LT relationship (pretty much like in the US or Europe).

Mixing mongering with trying to establish a LT relationship is hazardous.

[Mr Enternational]

What I have seen is that a lot of these "relationships" don't last not because of language or culture differences. But because the relationship is made up of desperation on both ends.

Oh one side, you have a paisa that is dirt poor. She is looking for someone to support her and her kid (s). She is young and like many of the girls, above average in looks and great in bed.

She is willing to "sacrifice" herself to an old foreigner that under normal circumstances she would not give the time of day to.

On the foreigner side, you often have an old out of shape, desperate for attention foreigner that feels like he is Rockefeller in Medellin because of the low cost of living and price of pussy.

It just doesn't last as there is no true love, strictly a monetary and a companion need between 2 people.

Again, you are talking about a Medellin thing. I have never had a normal chick from another city that is not a hooker asking me about paying their bills or feeding their family or taking them away from it all. This is apples and bowling balls. Don't sign up for a hooker or someone to use you if that is not what you want.

[Explorer8939]

What I have seen is that a lot of these "relationships" don't last not because of language or culture differences. But because the relationship is made up of desperation on both ends.

Oh one side, you have a paisa that is dirt poor. She is looking for someone to support her and her kid (s). She is young and like many of the girls, above average in looks and great in bed.

She is willing to "sacrifice" herself to an old foreigner that under normal circumstances she would not give the time of day to.

On the foreigner side, you often have an old out of shape, desperate for attention foreigner that feels like he is Rockefeller in Medellin because of the low cost of living and price of pussy.

It just doesn't last as there is no true love, strictly a monetary and a companion need between 2 people.

The killer for those type of relationships is the endgame. How does the young lady get out of the relationship with money to live on? Or, what happens when the guy kicks off and leaves his money to his family? Sometimes the lady will produce a baby in the hopes that the baby inherits the foreigner's money. Unless the foreigner insists on a DNA test. Oops.

[IamLookin]

I think that is more a Medellin thing and not a Colombian thing. My ex-girlfriend from Valledupar went to Medellin to find work and after 1 month she was out of that place. Even as a Colombian, that Medellin culture was too much for her. I never took to Medellin the way I have taken to other Colombian cities. I have never had any problem with the chicks I have dealt with over the years cheating or already having a boyfriend or having dealt with foreigners before. If you want a hooker, go to Medellin. If you want a normal Colombian woman for a traditional relationship, then go to other cities. But as has been said before, you will be at a disadvantage if you do not speak Spanish, especially in this social media attention-seeking age.

What I have seen is that a lot of these "relationships" don't last not because of language or culture differences. But because the relationship is made up of desperation on both ends.

Oh one side, you have a paisa that is dirt poor. She is looking for someone to support her and her kid (s). She is young and like many of the girls, above average in looks and great in bed.

She is willing to "sacrifice" herself to an old foreigner that under normal circumstances she would not give the time of day to.

On the foreigner side, you often have an old out of shape, desperate for attention foreigner that feels like he is Rockefeller in Medellin because of the low cost of living and price of pussy.

It just doesn't last as there is no true love, strictly a monetary and a companion need between 2 people.

[Explorer8939]

I'm planning on staying on a different spot on my next visit to Medellin. Any of you have stayed at one of these hotels and their guest policy? I would appreciate any info and I will definitely return the favor to make a report after the trip.

- Heiss hotel.

- Ibis Medelland.

- Novotel Medellin El tesoro.

- Hashtag 98.

- Blues suites Medellin.

- Sites hotel.

- Hotel Dix.

- Glow Medellin.

- Lettera Hotel.

If only there were a topic here about Medellin hotels.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...tal-Apartments

[Mr Enternational]

The way I've heard this explained is that you're just making her more attractive to find a guy that's richer / better looking or just higher status than you. I'd NEVER sink that much money into any woman, let alone a woman who is clearly p4 p.

The same reason I will never buy a phone for a chick just for her to meet and talk to other guys with. The only thing I am sinking into a woman is this dick. But some guys are out to please or win approval or do things they think will keep her. I have never been that type of person. I will tell them that if they can find someone better then go for it. In a few cases they have become divorced single moms. I tell them that they were on the right track, but the wrong train.

[Mr Enternational]

Having lived in Colombia for many many years, I can tell you very few men find their wives in Colombia not just because of the language barrier but because of the cultural barrier. I've seen tons of men with the same idea to find a wife in Colombia only to leave only to leave a year later in complete distress. I would say that Colombia especially Medellin is probably the worst place to find a wife.

I think that is more a Medellin thing and not a Colombian thing. My ex-girlfriend from Valledupar went to Medellin to find work and after 1 month she was out of that place. Even as a Colombian, that Medellin culture was too much for her. I never took to Medellin the way I have taken to other Colombian cities. I have never had any problem with the chicks I have dealt with over the years cheating or already having a boyfriend or having dealt with foreigners before. If you want a hooker, go to Medellin. If you want a normal Colombian woman for a traditional relationship, then go to other cities. But as has been said before, you will be at a disadvantage if you do not speak Spanish, especially in this social media attention-seeking age.

[ElSexoChino7]

I'm planning on staying on a different spot on my next visit to Medellin. Any of you have stayed at one of these hotels and their guest policy? I would appreciate any info and I will definitely return the favor to make a report after the trip.

- Heiss hotel.

- Ibis Medelland.

- Novotel Medellin El tesoro.

- Hashtag 98.

- Blues suites Medellin.

- Sites hotel.

- Hotel Dix.

- Glow Medellin.

- Lettera Hotel.

[ChrisD1680]

Never ever pay for, or encourage your girlfriend to get, a boob job. A guy who she liked but did not like her will want her now.

The way I've heard this explained is that you're just making her more attractive to find a guy that's richer / better looking or just higher status than you. I'd NEVER sink that much money into any woman, let alone a woman who is clearly p4 p.

[MocosGuey]

I won't get into too many details and just get straight to the point. So what started as just me and my girlfriend has now expanded into my girlfriend and some of her friends and her sisters friends and now I'm up to about 9 people and we all need a place to meet for a group session. I'm having a very difficult time finding a place for this encounter to occur. My girlfriends apartment is too small for such a thing to occur so it would need to be elsewhere. Does anyone have any good ideas here? I'm stuck. I don't see a hotel that would allow so many visitors.

I've had no issues at the Haven hotel. The penthouse is for 8 guests but I don't see an issue having the ninth if the come separately but you may have a 100 k fee as that goes over the free guest count (number of rooms x 2).

There are a couple airbnbs I've used around poblado with no issues. None of these options are cheap tho.

[Knowledge]

You lost me until you mentioned the language barrier. I thought you were writing about Colombians based on living here long term. It made no sense and then I realized you were making an observation about foreigners. That observation more than makes sense, it is dead obvious even allowing our group's strong disinclination toward marriage in general. Colombians and other latinos are in fact socially conservative, family oriented and favor long term primary relationships. This of course excludes the subculture of urban prepagos and their dodgy social circles that we rub elbows with. You definitely don't want to marry into any of that. Keep in mind we frequent a subculture. It's very different from the Colombians I worked with who know only enough about them to avoid them like the plague. For example, years ago Parque Lleras was a place to take the family for Sunday night dinner. You all know the rest.

Having lived in Colombia for many many years, I can tell you very few men find their wives in Colombia not just because of the language barrier but because of the cultural barrier. I've seen tons of men with the same idea to find a wife in Colombia only to leave only to leave a year later in complete distress. I would say that Colombia especially Medellin is probably the worst place to find a wife. They might find a girl out and about and think that she's a good girl only to get robbed after the 4th date or to find out that she's sleeping with other gringos on the side or she has a Colombian boyfriend (which she prefers above all). Out of all the Latin American countries I've been to Colombians, especially Paisas are the biggest liars I've ever met. And it's due to the legacy of Pablo Escobar. Even decades after his death, he's left a deep cultural imprint of criminality. The locals call it "cultura traqueta." Women here, although many have been taken on to more lavish trips by the age of 22 than you will ever go to, have never lived in another country. They don't know that cheating on their boyfriend is as bad as it is because it's so normalized in their culture. I've slept with so many Colombian women that have boyfriends who they really loved and they didn't feel guilty.

Men who come to this country looking for wives are men who really don't understand the culture at all. Once these women have had a taste of the fast money of selling their bodies, a guy who wants her to stay home and cook will sound like a horrible proposition. Most Paisas don't want to leave the country, don't want to be your husband because marriage isn't even a strong institution in the culture and they don't want to be married to a foreigner unless they're 35+ and they've had a lot of financial hardship in their life. They just want your money and they want to party in Medellin. They will lie, cheat, and steal in order to do that.

[GringoTigre]

I see the issue of finding a life partner in Colombia as an individual thing. What applies to one gent will not necessarily apply to another. Nevertheless, my experience in Colombia is that there are many options among non pros but you need to be able to speak Spanish.

Well stated and succinct. Between the nature of this forum and the dynamic of MDE, it comes as NO surprise you get a lot of negative responses to it here.

I have seen many great relationships occur between Colombiana and foreigners. However, they all have been with non-Paisas. Those with Paisas (in MDE or elsewhere) have ended badly. Which only reinforces my stereotype of Paisas.

[GringoTigre]

I won't get into too many details and just get straight to the point. So what started as just me and my girlfriend has now expanded into my girlfriend and some of her friends and her sisters friends and now I'm up to about 9 people and we all need a place to meet for a group session. I'm having a very difficult time finding a place for this encounter to occur. My girlfriends apartment is too small for such a thing to occur so it would need to be elsewhere. Does anyone have any good ideas here? I'm stuck. I don't see a hotel that would allow so many visitors.

AirBnb in the countryside if you can get outside the city, especially if it is for a weekend. As you probably know, Colombians often vacation with the whole family, so there are a LOT of options at all sorts of price levels and features. Finding anything like that in the city is difficult, as you have already found out.

Report back with your adventures.