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  1. #13988
    Hey I'm going to be in town. I'm visiting for a week for the first time solo. Any recs or people that want to hang out?

  2. #13987
    Quote Originally Posted by StevieJ1  [View Original Post]
    The madam spoke very little English but was very friendly and clearly wanted my business. There was an English menu with varying levels of massage starting at 50,000 Yen (25) which was likely a basic massage. The top level was 150,000 Yen which was sex. Not on the menu (but available) was BBFS with CIP for 200,000 Yen. I've been a few times and always had a great service from either Chinese or Thai girls, always pretty and thin in their 20's. The "rooms" are separated by thin wood and the doors are a curtain, with a mattress on the floor.

    It starts with being showered by the girl and then mind-blowing sex with DFK, BBBJ, BBFS and CIP over the next hour. Then a final shower with the girl.

    The place isn't busy with customers at all and I suspect that the girls are genuinely happy to earning some cash. More than they would get back home. They come to Japan for a few weeks at time.

    Not cheap but knowing that I'm going to get great service means a lot to me.
    Wonderful, we don't have enough reports on massage shops. Just want to point out there is an extra 0 in the prices. So you listed 50,000 yen for 25 pounds but of course it was 5,000 yen for 25 pounds. Lucky you, years ago it would have been 40 pounds. No doubt compared to back home, the girls are much better with better service on average. As you say, always avoid all those touts in Kabukicho. I would say that even with zero Japanese, you can still try the Manzoku shop there's no harm in asking. They will 100% know which shops you can get into. I've used them 20 years to refer me to shops, although at first I could only get into oppai pubs. They will call each shop and confirm if they will let you in. That call is the green light, it even helps when a shop is totally full and won't let me in (or any Japanese customer), as well as in the off chance things are so slow they'll take me even if they normally wouldn't.

    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...61#post2963461 How to get into Manzoku.

    This is a very common thing with Japan, Korea, and China which count by 10,000 instead of 1,000. Locals get confused when you say "ten thousand" since they've never heard of the number. They always say man (Japanese, Korean), or wan (Chinese). They always count money in units of 10,000 (man en) when it goes above that number:

    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2969659 The price of things in Japan.

    For anything Japanese (sushi, trains, Japanese women), it's cheap in Japan. Different cities and places have their specialty too. No surprise that many massage shops offer Chinese and Thai girls. I don't know much about massage but every massage place was staffed by them. I mainly did this in Nagoya where you could get massage with light touching or a hj. There is a very tricky paradox - hj and bj are 100% legal so in Nagoya I could straight up ask the girl for them. But if a girl or shop also offers fs, then suddenly nobody wants to talk about "what happens". And the girls who were offering hj or bj in Nagoya were doing them out of an apartment (not paying taxes or licensed to run a shop), so it wasn't the sex that was the problem but their shop was "underground" off the radar. These days I completely avoid non-Japanese shops, I just don't want to take my chances. But sharing intel is always good.

    Quote Originally Posted by StevieJ1  [View Original Post]
    It starts with being showered by the girl and then mind-blowing sex with DFK, BBBJ, BBFS and CIP over the next hour. Then a final shower with the girl.
    For those new, any shop that offers shower is a big plus. Whether soapland, delivery health to a love hotel (where you shower there), or a better massage place like the one you found. Two showers is the gold standard. It is the defining characteristic of korgs in the USA.

    It didn't take me long to strike gold in a wide short alley off Hanamichi-dori street.

    Unfortunately, no name from the shop. I had the same problem when I started, no way to remember a shop name in a language I couldn't speak. So one tip is if you just ask them for a business card or anything, they will probably have it. Listing phone number, address, even a mini map. Japan is old school like this, very paper driven still with business cards and printed ads and pamphlets. Good luck!

  3. #13986

    Where I got success in Tokyo

    Speaking no Japanese put me a a huge disadvantage in Japan. So many touts that must be avoided at all costs. Massage parlours have a high chance of delivering HR but that wasn't what I was after. Figuring that the Kabukicho area would be the best area, I entered some of the brightly lit "entertainment" shops but got nowhere due to language barrier and a feeling that I might get ripped off.

    So I started visiting massage shops, being very upfront about what I wanted. Obviously I avoided them if they looked legit. It didn't take me long to strike gold in a wide short alley off Hanamichi-dori street. Sorry I can't remember the name. 2 flights up some outside steps. Open 24 hours.

    The madam spoke very little English but was very friendly and clearly wanted my business. There was an English menu with varying levels of massage starting at 50,000 Yen (£25) which was likely a basic massage. The top level was 150,000 Yen which was sex. Not on the menu (but available) was BBFS with CIP for 200,000 Yen. I've been a few times and always had a great service from either Chinese or Thai girls, always pretty and thin in their 20's. The "rooms" are separated by thin wood and the doors are a curtain, with a mattress on the floor.

    It starts with being showered by the girl and then mind-blowing sex with DFK, BBBJ, BBFS and CIP over the next hour. Then a final shower with the girl.

    The place isn't busy with customers at all and I suspect that the girls are genuinely happy to earning some cash. More than they would get back home. They come to Japan for a few weeks at time.

    Not cheap but knowing that I'm going to get great service means a lot to me.

  4. #13985
    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon987  [View Original Post]
    Below what age is "minor"?
    It is 18 in Japan. There are multiple overlapping laws, including the The Child Prostitution and Pornography Act (1999) as well as the corruption of minors law. Another recent change has lowered the age of adulthood from 20 to 18, which doesn't affect the industry much except allow for 18 year old porn stars like the rest of the world. Previously, 18 and 19 year olds could not sign contracts or do work without parental permission. Likewise, shops now feature a few 18 and 19 year olds (it is just super rare for a 19 year old to get her parents' permission to work DH or star in porn). One of my ATFs started at 19. Same with maid cafes, girls bars, hostess clubs, oppai pubs. In any case no normal shop would send you an underage girl, since they would be in just as much trouble too.

    This is where police focus their efforts, as well as streetwalkers that cause public embarrassment. When I say Japan is lax on prostitution, for example Japan arrested 270 prostitutes in 2023. In the US for the same period, it is closer to 70,000. The reason being Japan focuses on cleaning up streetwalkers who gather and embarrass the public. Even against streetwalkers they are quite lenient, attempting to offer counseling and assistance most of the time.

    Excepting streetwalkers, prostitution between consenting adults in Japan works the same as pachinco. Effectively legal due to the legal system's lenient rules. Soapland and delivery health are "prostitution with an extra step", the same way pachinco is "gambling with an extra step". It is completely legal to pay for sex with someone you know or to pay for anal sex and then miss the hole, and it is completely legal to bet money on metal balls which are then laundered into actual money again. In Japan, that's all that's needed.

    Note that the legal age of drinking alochol is 20. But an 18 year old can serve alcohol even if they can't drink it. That gap is actually not unusual, it's the same in the US where an 18 year old can sell or serve alcohol even though they can't drink. But in practice this is a limitation on hostess clubs and oppai pubs since guys expect the girl to drink alcohol with them. But some 19 year olds will apologize and if they're cute we all forgive them of course. It sucks to be an ugly girl in this world.

  5. #13984

    SL SoapLand

    DH Delivery health.

    SL SoapLand.

  6. #13983
    Quote Originally Posted by Gordon987  [View Original Post]
    Below what age is "minor"?
    Under 18 in Japan.

  7. #13982

    SL girl?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackEngine44  [View Original Post]
    - Big factor is that you get to see the girl in Dubai as you will be picking them up in bars / clubs. In Japan, you will be scheduling your visits with DH / SL. Reserving a girl in advance.

    - So in Japan, you will be ordering blind. There is no guarantee the girl will be what you imagine her to be, plus they use face censors and filters too. You risk throwing your money down the drain as you will be paying in advance before you even meet the girl.

    - You can of course opt for premium SL's that have hot girls only, but those seem to be 2 x the DH price.

    - Service wise no difference. Japan edges out because you shower with the girl (she washes you) while in Dubai the girl showers first and can easily eat up 15 minutes.

    - Communication is also better in Dubai, girls can speak some English vs none at all in Japan.
    I understand DH is delivery health service. May I ask what does SL mean?

  8. #13981
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelerX  [View Original Post]
    4) There is no punishment for Johns in Japan. Excepting if she's a minor. No soapland or DH is going to send you a minor because they don't want to get fucked, so cool. Win win.
    Below what age is "minor"?

    Age of Consent vs Age of Majority

    =============================================

    Greetings Gentlemen,

    The Age of Consent is the age in which girls can participate in consensual, non-commercial sex with their teen-age boyfriend without said teen-age boyfriend being charged with statutory rape.

    However, the Age of Consent is irrelevant to the members of this forum.

    What you need to focus on is the Age of Majority, which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.

    Please exercise caution and govern yourself accordingly.

    Thanks,

    Admin

  9. #13980
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackEngine44  [View Original Post]
    If you want a pretty EE girl in Dubai, costs:

    1000 aed girl (minimum) + 200 club entrance + 300 hotel room = 1500 aed or 400 usd for 1 HR.

    For Japan, using DH:

    27 k yen + 10 k FS tip + 5 k hotel = 42 k yen or 267 usd for 1 HR.

    Pros / Cons:

    - Big factor is that you get to see the girl in Dubai as you will be picking them up in bars / clubs. In Japan, you will be scheduling your visits with DH / SL. Reserving a girl in advance.

    - So in Japan, you will be ordering blind. There is no guarantee the girl will be what you imagine her to be, plus they use face censors and filters too. You risk throwing your money down the drain as you will be paying in advance before you even meet the girl.

    - You can of course opt for premium SL's that have hot girls only, but those seem to be 2 x the DH price.

    - Service wise no difference. Japan edges out because you shower with the girl (she washes you) while in Dubai the girl showers first and can easily eat up 15 minutes.

    - Communication is also better in Dubai, girls can speak some English vs none at all in Japan.
    Thank you. I'm not a clubs / bars person. So, for me it takes more energy and time consuming.

    That's why I want to go in the shop first and pick them from unfiltered pictures.

    Both have con and pro. Can't find pretty EE girls that rate $400 / HR here. Well after some org got busted years ago.

    This is a great summary of the pros and cons. No need to fly to Japan if you are closer to Dubai or dislike working around the language barrier. Or, if you really like Japanese girls, obviously Japan is full of them. Distance is also a factor, lots of people from Korea, China, and Taiwan choose Japan because it is fast and cheap to get to. Enough for a few days break from girlfriends and work.
    Well, actually both are equally same distance for me. I also want to learn Japanese for a long time anyway. Honestly, I love Japanese girls. They cute / young and their attitude is IMO better than other ethics. That's why I said 90% Tokyo but It's still not a close deal until I book a ticket.

  10. #13979
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirschta  [View Original Post]
    Is that possible to use my place for incall? Not outcall cause I might stay very near by THC (2-8 minutes walk). Think that I will walk in together with a guest and pay for 2 persons stay on my trip.

    Do the hotel really care if I bring in different girls day after day? I personally won't mind for clamp space and mostly won't pay much for a place to sleep. I will go outside almost all the time any way.

    Agreed that Japan is very easy to travel. Travel over there two times with almost zero of my Japanese and still have a great time. I understand it will much more better if you can communicate with the the local. I can read Hiragana, Katagana and some kanji. I will do my best to learn so hopefully I can talk Japanese at least a primary school level.

    Did you talk about Elsa? I think I saw her pics in a Japan shop too. Elsa good if she's available I might give her a visit LOL.

    Also, I planned to stay in Shinjuku for 5 days. I looked at Shibuya and Shinjuku hotel and saw Shibuya has a significant higher rate. So, decided to stay in Shinjuku. Also, I can walk around explore lot of things and never to worry about the last train.
    About taking a girl to your hotel manually, it's certainly possible. Be discreet and it should be easy. I even did it at the strictest hotel possible where it's not allowed. See my story about the time I missed out on North Korean pussy.
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...an#post2951357 Picking up civilian girls, North Korean pussy

    At that time I had taken 3 years of HS Chinese and about 2 years Japanese. 1-3 years of either language goes a really long way if you get creative. And Hiragana, Katakana, some Kanji alone will take you far. It will even help you learn Japanese without even meaning to, like when you're on the train trying to see which station it is and how many stops to where you're going. I memorized a ton of stations this way, and started noticing certain words and phrases repeating on signs that I now know. Learning some conversational Japanese will make things really fun, at first it meant being able to talk with a lot of people. Later I realized I could flirt with Japanese women at oppai pubs. A reminder you can bang 1 girl or flirt with 9 for about the same cost. I do some of both.

    You know who I mean but I don't want to single out girls since every guy has his type and also to be respectful. Everything is between you and the girl. When we have a good time, more girls will turn those triangles into circles. There are so many choices and several guys who tried two or three girls ended up finding a new girl they really liked. It's the ultimate gacha game and I hope we can improve everyone's odds with intel. Especially with DH you need to negotiate for fs. The one tip I give is to be the first to say a number, I would start with 10k first since many girls take it. Even 20k is not much. And I always make it as "just an idea" since we played and I'm hard and ready anyways. I'm prepared not to do it, and I think this helps sell it since most girls will take what they can get. A reminder that soapland works different, you can just ask the girl without tip ever.

    The last train point is true, Shinjuku is open late but various things do start to close after midnight. In Kabukicho is important not to follow foreign touts (black, Chinese, Korean, white), they will take you to a non-Japanese shop that sucks. This is a particular problem with Kabukicho, everywhere else in Japan most touts were Japanese staff working for legit Japanese shops.

    Your order of shops makes sense since you are focused on fs. I would just suggest that Luxe and Kira Kira offer a totally different experience if you can squeeze it in. A lot of die-hard delivery health guys still have fond memories of the first time they went to an oppai pub even though they don't repeat since they want sex.

    If you go cup museum, it's across the street from World Porters. Food and shopping, a small arcade, a family friendly animal place to touch adorable animals (Ani Touch). There is a gondola connecting World Porters and Sakuragicho but that is for sightseeing, obviously taxi is faster. Sakuragicho has a lot more food, Yokohama station has Sogo department store for shopping and food (basement for casual, top floor for dining). It is maybe 13 minutes to walk from Kira Kira to Sakuragicho station, you are walking past the night district where bars will open later.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackEngine44  [View Original Post]
    - Service wise no difference. Japan edges out because you shower with the girl (she washes you) while in Dubai the girl showers first and can easily eat up 15 minutes.

    - Communication is also better in Dubai, girls can speak some English vs none at all in Japan.
    This is a great summary of the pros and cons. No need to fly to Japan if you are closer to Dubai or dislike working around the language barrier. Or, if you really like Japanese girls, obviously Japan is full of them. Distance is also a factor, lots of people from Korea, China, and Taiwan choose Japan because it is fast and cheap to get to. Enough for a few days break from girlfriends and work.

    Quote Originally Posted by HotDog666  [View Original Post]
    There aren't that many reports about Pink Salons, and the ones there are (eg Jan Jan) suggest these are few and far between now.

    This appears to be countered by the following: https://mysecretjapan.com/tokyo-pink-salons/.

    Not sure how accurate it is but it does seem quite recent so happy to hear feedback.
    I've skimmed their other guides and they cover things in good detail. I've been thinking on a simpler explanation of Japanese law about paying for sex with "unspecified persons". I often watch Japanese TV and there are NHK documentaries on hostess clubs where the hostess will say on camera "Yes I sometimes sleep with clients". 100% legal. She could even go further and say "I sleep with them for money". 100% legal. She could even name the price except that would make some of her fans butthurt since they don't all pay the same. It's legal is because the Japanese law is only against "unspecified persons" aka people you don't already know. So it is only illegal to offer sex for money "to strangers". And the wording is to the extent that even a flimsly excuse like Tobita (girl serves you a snack and chats with you before sex) is enough. And true enough, if you walk around Tobita the girls may nod their head in approval saying they approve of you. They are free to refuse anyone they don't like, and occasionally will. Now given that these are thin excuses, people don't push the boundaries and act discreet. Hope this helps.

    Blast from the past
    Tobita reminds me of Koganecho glass houses. Here is a post I made about it over 20 years ago:
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...cho#post291141 Traveler X 2004

    Koganecho no longer exists, but like how Yoshiwara is filled with soapland Koganecho was filled with small glass houses you could look into. You could see a woman in each one, and if they like you they'll nod to you and if you like them you go inside. Give them 1 man en ($64) to bang. I think I saw about 20 girls there. Though one night I saw the same Thai girl 3 times. Unlike Tobita it was mostly Chinese girls, some Thai, some Japanese, some white. I learned there that the hottest girls often give the lowest service. There was one girl who was leagues better looking than most other girls, but you see she was nonstop busy because it was so obvious how good looking she was. So her window blinds were always down as she was with someone. So I couldn't see her, but next time on a rainy day I checked and finally she was free. She was as hot as I imagined, fantastic tits too, but her attitude wasn't good. However she was so hot, I didn't even care! It was a good lesson.

    There was another Chinese girl I saw and things were going really great, she was hot and we were having fun, she was enjoying it. She loved my dick, quite refreshing. But suddenly she said something maybe 15 minutes in, I couldn't understand her Japanese. In hindsight she was probably telling me to finish soon. I couldn't finish anyways, so she told me we had to stop. I didn't understand, but I got up and cooperated. She told me I had to leave, and handed me half my money back saying "It was really fun for me too, so just go" Damn, she is here to make money not love. It was a good lesson.

    About the adult party mentioned, these were korgs in Japan. All in Shin Okubo, basically Koreatown. The shop I went to the most had 3 to 4 girls usually, but others had more. You hang around and watch tv with Korean girls while chatting with them until you picked one. Most were early 20s and active college students. The rates varied between shops and the year but I remember one time paying 22000 yen for 2 girls ($140), and other times paying 28000 yen for 3 girls ($180). The 3 girl rate was literally cheaper than TJ, and the girls way better. The majority HYA by today's standard. The Korean exchange rate at the time was really distorted at this time. The same way jgirls now go to the US, kgirls were going to Japan. Many years later, I discovered korgs had spread to the US too.

    I mention I met a Korean Zhang Zi Yi. The first time I met her, she was checking me out before I even sat down in the room (it was raining and I was taking care of my umbrella and pants in the hallway). So it was a given I would take her before we spoke any words to each other. She flirted with me with her lips and eyes to signal me to take her, we barely spoke any words. Upstairs there is a full room, plus another bigger room but divided into several cubicles. We were lucky to get the full room and it was hot and wonderful with her. I had just landed in Japan the day before, what a way to enter paradise. Unlike every other girl she didn't want to suck cock very long but she was exactly my type so I didn't even care. As we finished and chatted briefly, she asked if I liked her since I obviously did. So I said yes. She told me then I had to pick her again. WTF. She even got on top of me and said if you don't..and choked me playfully but I could tell with those wild Korean eyes, she meant it. It would be another 20 years before I would get those same wild Korean eyes of jealous love again. Back downstairs, of course I have another ticket left for my second girl. It was on my mind, I was a bit subdued and even if the other girl chatted with me I didn't say much back. At this party, if another Japanese customer comes in to join he might pick your girl. So I picked her again. Then took her out on a date.

    I was the only non-Japanese customer until a 3rd friend was invited by Sailing. The korg is for Japanese customers only for safety, but they can bring a guest they vouch for. They screen customers the same way korgs in the US do. So obviously, most of the time other Japanese customers come and go and join us in the living room. If there is a girl you like, you're free to chat with her. Find out about her major or what she likes. How old she is, compliment her. One time it was the Japanese customer who was chatting it up with one of these Korean girls. They all speak Japanese (much better than me). He was really having a fun time, treating it like a hostess club all smiles and laughs. But I notice he just talks to her, doesn't pick her and take her up. She's the girl I want. However I'm not going to take her from under him if he's talking to her. So the moment he stops talking to her for a few minutes, then looks at what's on the TV, it's fair game. I tell her, "Let's go up". She's happy to. We bang happily. Lots of naughty tongue play too. For him, it was a good lesson.

    Hadaka no Ousama is explained at the very end of this post
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...ka#post2946666 Types of shops in Japan

  11. #13978
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirschta  [View Original Post]
    Also, if someone has an experiance in Dubai please chim in. It was about 90% Tokyo for me but we never know cause sometime we settle with 10%.
    If you want a pretty EE girl in Dubai, costs:

    1000 aed girl (minimum) + 200 club entrance + 300 hotel room = 1500 aed or 400 usd for 1 HR.

    For Japan, using DH:

    27 k yen + 10 k FS tip + 5 k hotel = 42 k yen or 267 usd for 1 HR.

    Pros / Cons:

    - Big factor is that you get to see the girl in Dubai as you will be picking them up in bars / clubs. In Japan, you will be scheduling your visits with DH / SL. Reserving a girl in advance.

    - So in Japan, you will be ordering blind. There is no guarantee the girl will be what you imagine her to be, plus they use face censors and filters too. You risk throwing your money down the drain as you will be paying in advance before you even meet the girl.

    - You can of course opt for premium SL's that have hot girls only, but those seem to be 2 x the DH price.

    - Service wise no difference. Japan edges out because you shower with the girl (she washes you) while in Dubai the girl showers first and can easily eat up 15 minutes.

    - Communication is also better in Dubai, girls can speak some English vs none at all in Japan.

  12. #13977

    Pink Salons

    There aren't that many reports about Pink Salons, and the ones there are (eg Jan Jan) suggest these are few and far between now.

    This appears to be countered by the following: https://mysecretjapan.com/tokyo-pink-salons/.

    Not sure how accurate it is but it does seem quite recent so happy to hear feedback.

  13. #13976
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelerX  [View Original Post]

    The distance to your hotel doesn't matter at all. You just need to know if your hotel allows guests. It will be obvious when you check in and try to go to your room. Some hotels require a room key to operate the elevator, after tapping an IC spot on the elevator. Others don't and you can freely use them. But of course if your hotel doesn't work, you can just use a love hotel and enjoy it.

    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2966012 Various Japan guides

    Good luck!
    Is that possible to use my place for incall? Not outcall cause I might stay very near by THC (2-8 minutes walk). Think that I will walk in together with a guest and pay for 2 persons stay on my trip.

    Do the hotel really care if I bring in different girls day after day? I personally won't mind for clamp space and mostly won't pay much for a place to sleep. I will go outside almost all the time any way.

    Agreed that Japan is very easy to travel. Travel over there two times with almost zero of my Japanese and still have a great time. I understand it will much more better if you can communicate with the the local. I can read Hiragana, Katagana and some kanji. I will do my best to learn so hopefully I can talk Japanese at least a primary school level.

    Did you talk about Elsa? I think I saw her pics in a Japan shop too. Elsa good if she's available I might give her a visit LOL.

    Also, I planned to stay in Shinjuku for 5 days. I looked at Shibuya and Shinjuku hotel and saw Shibuya has a significant higher rate. So, decided to stay in Shinjuku. Also, I can walk around explore lot of things and never to worry about the last train.

    Right now I planned to visit Gingira, THC, TAE in Shibuya and Luxe oppai club. Yokohama also in my travel list. Want to visit ramen museum & cup noodle museum over there might try Kira Kira on the way back to Tokyo if I haven't success with those three earlier.

  14. #13975
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirschta  [View Original Post]
    Ok, I just understand their procedure.

    For incall go to their building choose the girls from pics & their schedule available. Then the girl will come to the shop and go to love hotel together.

    Last year on my 8 hrs layover from HND. I went to Shibuya, Shinjuku walk around Okubo park cause want to know what it actually looks like. Around 5 pm-6 pm. Sad thing was not have any girl that catch my eye. Anyway, I fell it was pretty safe over there.

    Got some ramen and nice food and back to the airport.

    Anyway, first thing to do is improve my Japanese skills.
    Yes, Japanese language helps, I first went with 3 months Japanese and had no problem sightseeing - just trouble getting in to shops. That's why we are highlighting shops that are friendly to English speakers, whether oppai pubs, soapland, or delivery health. Chinese and Korean are welcomed at most of the places that take English. At Luxe, half their staff were native English speakers. About 2 years of Japanese is where I gained a lot of benefit, it was a lot of fun and I went Japan 20 times. Japan is very good for tourists, a lot of people helped me when they didn't have to. I tried to do my best for others in turn.

    The distance to your hotel doesn't matter at all. You just need to know if your hotel allows guests. It will be obvious when you check in and try to go to your room. Some hotels require a room key to operate the elevator, after tapping an IC spot on the elevator. Others don't and you can freely use them. But of course if your hotel doesn't work, you can just use a love hotel and enjoy it.

    As for refusing the girl, it just really depends on the shop. I look at the situation totally backwards, I only use a shop that is good and sends girls that match their pic. About photos, for example at KK soapland the girl is always the same as her pic but they take the photo at a good angle. But I don't mind, I will judge her by her service anyways. With Delivery Health, guys care more about looks, so if there is a face shot you expect it to match the girl you picked. You have to settle this how you think right. If the girl you get is good looking, of course you wave her in anyways. But if you think there's a problem, say you expected a certain girl so there must be some mistake. Girls sometimes change their appearance so do check and make sure. I think ultimately if you use a "good shop" this won't happen in the first place. Any normal good shop wants you to be happy and keep using them.

    If you are from NOVA, you may know that a few popular girls who toured there also work at DH shops in Tokyo. It's one reason I know certain shops are "very photo accurate", even though I haven't used the shop itself yet. But I saw their girl already. I once posted that one girl was a 9 and had two NOVA guys immediately correct me that she's a 10 LOL. Video ads tend to be "photo accurate" as well and some DH shops have them.

    Glad you had a fun time. Japan is very safe as long as you never follow a nigerian / black tout in Kabukicho to their scam bar. I would avoid the Chinese / Korean / White touts as well, it's just a waste of money. Go to Manzoku or a shop you already know about.

    There are so many types of shops in Japan. There was a "sexy cabaret" called Super Angel where the girls do line up and you call the one you like over, it is otherwise like an oppai pub. However most girls were not Japanese. I did not quite mind, I would like to go again if there weren't so many other great choices especially staffed by Japanese girls. I highly recommend the Manzoku shop in Kabukicho where you can just tell them "I speak a little Japanese, what shops can I go" and they will 100% confirm with the shop if you can enter or not as your broker. Used them 20 years, they get you the best promo rate anyways. Look for my Manzoku post on how to get there and how they work among the guides here:

    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2966012 Various Japan guides

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirschta  [View Original Post]
    Ok, I just understand their procedure.

    For incall go to their building choose the girls from pics & their schedule available. Then the girl will come to the shop and go to love hotel together.

    Wondering if my hotel are very close? (about 5 minutes from their building) can we go to my hotel?

    Can we refuse the girl after seeing her? Like she doesn't look like her pic?

    Anyway, want to try Japan love hotel once so I might go for incall on my first time.

    Last year on my 8 hrs layover from HND. I went to Shibuya, Shinjuku walk around Okubo park cause want to know what it actually looks like. Around 5 pm-6 pm. Sad thing was not have any girl that catch my eye. Anyway, I fell it was pretty safe over there.

    Got some ramen and nice food and back to the airport.

    Anyway, first thing to do is improve my Japanese skills.
    The Love Hotels near THC are very close. 5 minutes. You can't refuse the provider because it's prepaid. Promoting vaginal sex is illegal, but most THC girls will offer it in the love hotel. Just be clean and respectful.

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