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  1. #16873

    Oh I so hope Trump, ChristoFascist Mike and The MAGAloons do this on Day One!

    34 times convicted Felon Conman Donald Trump conned his lemming sucker MAGAs into hating President Joe Biden's terrific Inflation Reduction Act so well, 77 Million of those numbskulls voted for him to destroy it and thereby cut their beloved Repub Party's own throat.

    Lololol. Biden is not only one of the best Presidents in history, he is a goddam genius!

    Why Trump and GOP attacks on IRA can't score a clean sweep in red states.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/12/trum...ndroidappshare

    The clean energy labor market, highlighted by EV and battery tech jobs, remains a fraction of the total U.S. employment pool of roughly 160 million workers.

    But it is growing, and growing specifically in red and swing states key to Republican politicians.

    Tough talk from President-elect Trump and House Speaker Mike Johnson about cuts to President Bidens Inflation Reduction act will require consideration of jobs in states run by Republican governors, local Congressional districts held by the GOP, and a growing portion of climate tech jobs with support from labor unions.
    ...............
    The new Republican-majority Congress has wasted no time in making its energy priorities clear. Speaker of the House Mike Johnson said from the House floor minutes after his reelection, We have to stop the attacks on liquefied natural gas, pass legislation to eliminate the Green New Deal. ... Were going to expedite new drilling permits, were going to save the jobs of our auto manufacturers, and were going to do that by ending the ridiculous E.V. mandates.

    Data from the auto industry shows a more complicated story. There are more investments in EVs and related battery technologies in states under the control of Republican governors than in states run by Democrats. The top 10 states for total investments in EV technology, according to the Alliance for Automotive Innovation, are either solidly red or swing states such as Michigan, Arizona, North Carolina and Nevada. Far from help the fortunes of automakers, Trump confidante Elon Musk is on record as saying that repealing EV incentives would be a pill he could swallow, even as CEO of Tesla, because it would hurt other automakers even more.

    Amending or possibly repealing the Inflation Reduction Act, President Joe Bidens sweeping 2022 law that allocates approximately $369 billion over the next decade to clean-energy and climate-related projects, has been a talking point for President-elect Trump and many members of the GOP. Not a single Republican voted in favor of the bill saying its subsidies, tax credits, grants and loans are wasteful government overreach and the party and Trump have since railed against it.

    On this years campaign trail, Trump said he will rescind all unspent funds under the misnamed Inflation Reduction Act.

    He and fellow Republicans have also talked about eliminating the IRAs $7,500 federal personal tax credit for buying a new electric vehicle, as well as various incentives for private companies investing in manufacturing solar panels, wind turbines, EV batteries, heat pumps and other clean-energy products.

    But in an interview with CNBC last fall, Speaker Johnson hinted at the potential problem for the GOP now that investments have been made, and job growth continues to climb, across Republican states. He said it would be impossible to blow up the IRA, and it would be unwise, since some aspects of the terrible legislation had helped the economy. Youve got to use a scalpel and not a sledgehammer, because theres a few provisions in there that have helped overall, Johnson said.

    The economic boost that hundreds of IRA-funded projects have given the country, beyond just the EV industry, are predominantly in red states and the hundreds of thousands of clean-energy jobs linked to the IRA as well as the bipartisan Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act and the CHIPS and Science Act. A vast portion of that workforce voted for Republicans in November, and jeopardizing their livelihoods could fuel a balloting backlash.

    "The IRA is the quintessential policy that can create jobs, drive economic growth and improve our economy, said Bob Keefe, executive director of E2, a nonprofit environmental advocacy group comprising about 10,000 business leaders and investors, while at the same time giving us the tools to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.
    (See link for more)
    So now Brilliant Biden has put ChristoFascist Mike into the same corner as he put President-elect Musk and his Assistant Trump.

    Musk: Gee, nobody knew cutting even $1 Trillion or less from the deficit was hard, much less $2 Trillion!

    Trump: Gee, nobody knew reducing the cost of "groceries", that word I invented and now everyone is using it, was hard!

    ChristoFascist Mike: Gee, nobody knew saving hundreds of thousands of Repub jobs in Repub and Swing States rather than destroying Planet Earth was hard!

    Lololol.
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  2. #16872
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Weird, so many fire starting around LA. Despite no rain and strong wind, but so many starting can t be only natural. A bit same like free weapons killing people and children in schools, when USA killed all Indians long time ago.
    Terrible and sad what is happening around LA, but a bit funny rich and claimed strong USA need help of poor Mexico to stop probably criminal fires, when too numerous to happen naturally. Also funny, USA seem to have only small helicopters to send water? Don't they have big and more powerful planes to send more water? When USA claim to be so powerful, but not able to protect so many houses and people who died.

  3. #16871
    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    I won't disagree with you there. But you are responding to someone who does not live in USA so that is not applicable to me.

    Airbus is the safer aircraft?

    What caused the accidents?

    One of the big problem of haters is that they are so wrapped up in their hate they cannot get their facts straight.

    Making who obese? Have you ever seen me? No one is forced to consume items from either of the name brands you mentioned.

    Do you define the AK-47 as a safe and healthy product. My understanding is that is used around the world to kill people. Please correct me if I am wrong.

    https://historyguild.org/the-story-o...adliest-rifle/
    I tell about USA, not about somebody I don't know. I would feel much more safe in a Airbus than in a Boeing now. I don't care about Republicans or Democrats, when I don't live in USA, but I find Trump same shameful dangerous than Putin. I support Ukraine, even I love Russia but hate Putin. I also support Canada and Greenland / Denmark, stay away crazy Trump.

  4. #16870

    Facts continue to be a terrible thing to waste

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Weird, so many fire starting around LA. Despite no rain and strong wind, but so many starting can t be only natural.
    Are you implying that the LA Fires have something to do with politics. The fires have occurred throughout history from natural and man made causes.

    https://projects.capradio.org/california-fire-history/#6/38.58/-121.49.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    A bit same like free weapons killing people and children in schools, when USA killed all Indians long time ago.
    [ / be]Inaccurate[be]!

    [QUOTE]From the earliest European visitors to the period of Westward Expansion, white settlers encountered American Indians. Though many of these meetings were peaceful, the cultures more often clashed, resulting in hundreds of battles and skirmishes between the Indians and pioneers encroaching upon their lands, as well as conflicts between the tribes and the USA Army. Though confrontations with the Indians virtually occurred since the first European explorers and settlers set foot on American soil[ / QUOTE]http://<a href="http://<a href="http...wars/</a></a>.

    [be]Atrocities occurred[ / be] as they do in an war. But so did slavery and I do not see you complaining about that historical fact.

  5. #16869
    Weird, so many fire starting around LA. Despite no rain and strong wind, but so many starting can t be only natural. A bit same like free weapons killing people and children in schools, when USA killed all Indians long time ago.

  6. #16868

    Fact are a terrible thing to waste!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    This is big problem of USA, lack of knowledge for the world.
    I won't disagree with you there. But you are responding to someone who does not live in USA so that is not applicable to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Not many technical problems on many Boeing?
    Airbus is the safer aircraft?

    What caused the accidents?

    I think that it would be interesting to describe in short the actual cause of the accidents. In the list below, each accident is presented with it's NTSB identifier, so if you want to get more information on a specific accident, simply make a search with that identifier.
    Airbus 2014
    ENG14IA028: engine fire due to blade fracture
    Airbus 2015
    CEN15IA225: crack in the windshield outer pane due to moisture
    Airbus 2016
    ENG17IA003: engine fire due to fuel manifold fatigue crack
    Airbus 2017
    DCA17CA087: parking brake malfunction that caused a sudden stop while taxiing
    DCA17WA115: problems with the wing spoilers during climb, returned to airport
    Airbus 2018
    DCA18LA163: engine fire due to hydraulic fluid leakage
    Airbus 2019
    No accidents
    Airbus 2020
    ENG21WA010: engine sparks and vibrations during cruise
    Airbus 2021
    No accidents
    Airbus 2022
    DCA22LA212: uncommanded movement of the horizontal stabilizer control wheel
    Airbus 2023
    ENG23LA033: loss of both electrical generators
    Airbus 2024
    No accidents
    One of the big problem of haters is that they are so wrapped up in their hate they cannot get their facts straight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    For USA quality, also Cola and McDo making You obese
    Making who obese? Have you ever seen me? No one is forced to consume items from either of the name brands you mentioned.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    I wish Canada, Groenland and even Panama will resist to crazy dangerous Trump behaving like Putin who hold his balls in his hand after Moscow parties.
    Do you define the AK-47 as a safe and healthy product. My understanding is that is used around the world to kill people. Please correct me if I am wrong.

    The AK-47 is perhaps one of the most recognizable automatic rifles in the world. This simple gun, produced by Mikhail Kalashnikov, was initially intended to replace the rifles and submachine guns carried by Soviet forces at the end of WW2. However, it quickly became the weapon of choice during most conflicts following the Second World War.
    https://historyguild.org/the-story-o...adliest-rifle/

  7. #16867

    4 or is it 1-2? Verses 30,573. Interesting.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/07/o...en-legacy.html

    Biden's presidency will be remembered for four big illusions and four big deceptions. They will not serve his legacy well.

    The illusions: first, that the 2021 surge in migration was seasonal ("happens every single solitary year," as Biden said that March); second, that the Taliban would not swiftly seize Afghanistan ("the likelihood there's going to be the Taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely," as he said that July); third, that inflation was transitory ("Our experts believe, and the data shows, that most of the price increases we've seen are expected to be temporary," also that July).

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    The fourth, and the biggest: that he was the best Democratic candidate to defeat Donald Trump: "I beat him once, and I will beat him again," he often insisted, even after the debate debacle.

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    That last illusion was pure hubris. But there was an arrogance to the first three, since he was loudly alerted (including by, well, me) on each point that he was making a fundamental mistake. The White House spent months in 2021 refusing to use the term "crisis" for the border it was, instead, a "challenge. " Pentagon leaders warned the president that the Afghan government would soon collapse if the United States withdrew. Biden shrugged. Larry Summers was outspoken about the inflationary risks of Biden's $1. 9 trillion stimulus package. Biden ignored that, too.

    Those misjudgments doomed the Biden presidency, which never had a positive approval rating after the Afghan withdrawal. Maybe senior Democrats like Nancy Pelosi could have helped their party's chances if they had had the talk with Joe and Jill Biden about his re-election prospects in the spring of 2022 instead of the summer of 2024. It was left to Dean Phillips, the former Minnesota representative, to play the part of the boy who says the emperor has no clothes. Someone ought to nominate him for a Profile in Courage Award.

    Behind the misjudgments were the deceptions.

    Biden ran in 2020 on the implicit but clear pledge that he intended to serve a single term. ("If Biden is elected, he's going to be 82 years old in four years," one campaign adviser told Politico in 2019, "and he won't be running for re-election. ") he promised to be a bipartisan and moderate figure in the White House: "Unity" was the theme of his Inaugural Address. He, along with his entire administration, insisted he was mentally and physically fit to serve a second term. And he promised not to pardon his son Hunter if he were convicted of crimes.

    Of these deceptions, the first was the most forgivable and the most foolish: It's precisely because power is so alluring that the voluntary abdication would have been so admirable. His grudging decision in July not to run came too late to qualify as statesmanship.

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    The other deceptions: less forgivable. The centrist voters who put Biden in the White House saw him as a safe and consoling pair of hands. Instead, he sought to govern as the second coming of Lyndon Johnson, with spending proposals amounting to $7. 5 trillion nearly twice what we spent to win World War II, adjusted for inflation. And he took to denouncing "MAGA Republicans" as a threat to "the very foundations of our Republic. "

    Those MAGA Republicans responded the next year by rallying again to Donald Trump, who now owes his second term to Biden's only term.
    Hey, thanks for that link.

    I knew Biden was an extremely honest man and President. But I had no idea he was so honest it is hard even for his highly financially-motivated Dem-bashing adversaries in Mainstream Media to find so much as 1-2 out of potentially 4 rather unintentional falsehoods that actually mattered all that much in the scheme of things historically, none of which put a dent in his unprecedented record of Peace, Economic, Health and Well-being Recovery, Jobs Creation, etc, etc, etc now and well into the future.

    Unless a Repub or 280 succeed in really fucking it up for the future, that is.

    That's very, very impressive, especially in the Nude Grinbitch, Moscow Mitch, Trump, MAGA era. Makes me even more proud of my votes for him, his VP and presidential candidate Harris.

    Washington Post counts 30,573 false or misleading claims in four years by Trump.
    Jan. 20, 2021


    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5...ears-by-trump/

    The count resumes at 12 Noon on January 20,2025. And, for the sake of accuracy, they really should start the count at the first of those 35 words in the Oath of Office he will start lying about before his Trump's Pandemic Or Whatever Once in 100 Years Disaster he Can Find or Create, Part 2 term technically begins.
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  8. #16866

    Well, everyone will bow down, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    ... The petition submitted by Ohio and 16 other fascist Repub states), to have it rule on California's state right to govern and have jurisdiction over it own air quality and implement it's own clean air rules. The current EPA has now granted California's Air Resource Board approval, to enforce the latest new clear air mandates, which essential sets it on a path to ban the state sale of most ICE powered vehicles, by 2035.

    But naturally, true to form the hypocrite and narcissist, Trump, America's Hitler, said he'd overturn and reverse the EPA's decision. So much for the Repub's hollow belief with regards to "state's rights", to set their own rules!

    Trump and MAGA, would once again only serve to clownishly contradict themselves, like so many times, they've done before, applying a different set of rules for Repubs, when it suits them.
    Don't you know how "uncompromising" Republicans and their mantras are about the sanctity of states rights?

  9. #16865
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Now that you brought it up, while other rent increases in my rental property area were averaging 25-30% or more and for multiple years, I raised mine 5%. Those were hard times for everyone during Trump's Pandemic. And even though Trump's Pandemic caused costs for me to soar far more than 5%, just like everyone else, I could afford to be lenient with my tenants.

    That was in 2022. Now that Biden has recovered the Trump / Repub Disastrous Economy and everyone is back on their feet and doing quite well, I just raised the rent 10%
    Kudos, honestly. You deserve praise for what you did.

    Otherwise I don't agree with much in your post.

  10. #16864
    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    I for one, won't miss the gas stations, oil lube or mechanic shops. Good residence! I remember when Americans said similar things about the Japanese and then Korean vehicles. But I think, it won't be long, before we'll be saying the same thing about Chinese EVs.



    With the influx of China EVs, becoming the norm in Europe and European car manufacturing shredding jobs like crazy, it's not looking so good for the survival of the European car market manufacturers.

    Even worse is the car suppliers, are now expected to receive a long sustained period of lower growth, with many who are now seeing a massive downward trend for auto parts, as consumers are buying more EVs (Chinese, Korean or European), where less manufacturing of car parts are need, the are set to set to cut staff by 50% over 2025 and onward.

    Fair enough, the first part of your post, except that Chinese EV's, for better or worse, won't catch on in the USA. Neither political party will let that happen. Both favor sky high tariffs on Chinese vehicles, and the Democrats will channel the EV pork to American companies that use union labor.
    Fair enough. Yes, theoretically Chinese EV's should catch on here. They're great value for the money. But they won't. Both parties favor sky high tariffs on the Chinese, and the Democrats will restrict their EV subsidies to cars made by union labor, in America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Legacy Automotive Fossil Fuel Fears in America Exist Too:

    However, those same survival fears exist in the US too, as legacy automotive manufactures in the USA, struggle to keep pace with EVs and continue to cling to a archaic "drill baby drill", gas gosling, fossil fueled, solution, and look to deny, push back or repeal the advancements in EVs and clean energy solutions.

    Just recently, the SCOTUS lead MAGA 6 (uncharacteristically), struck down and rejected the petition (submitted by Ohio and 16 other fascist Repub states), to have it rule on California's state right to govern and have jurisdiction over it own air quality and implement it's own clean air rules. The current EPA has now granted California's Air Resource Board approval, to enforce the latest new clear air mandates, which essential sets it on a path to ban the state sale of most ICE powered vehicles, by 2035.

    But naturally, true to form the hypocrite and narcissist, Trump, America's Hitler, said he'd overturn and reverse the EPA's decision. So much for the Repub's hollow belief with regards to "state's rights", to set their own rules!

    Trump and MAGA, would once again only serve to clownishly contradict themselves, like so many times, they've done before, applying a different set of rules for Repubs, when it suits them.
    And I agree completely with you about California, except when you're talking about "clean air", you really mean "lower CO2 emissions." Californians should have the right to slit their own throats with restrictions and subsidies to promote renewable energy. The average Californian pays around 30 cents per kilowatt hour for electricity. I pay 14 cents. And they pay $4. 30 a gallon for gasoline, compared to $2. 80 where I live. In fact, overall, the cost of living in California is 38% higher than for the nation as a whole! The cost of renting or buying a house is 97% higher! No wonder there are so many homeless people there. Say what you will about Tooms, he's a shrewd real estate investor, buying in California.

    One point of disagreement. By your definition of fascism as it applies to energy and states rights, Trump and the Republicans are pikers compared to Biden, Obama and Washington Democrats. There are a lot of West Virginians out of work because of the Democrats' war on coal. Major pipelines planned for North Dakota and West Virginia were scotched by executive order. The federal government is not issuing permits for new LNG projects, which is ridiculous considering the LNG would largely replace coal. (Coal emits more CO2 than natural gas.) Biden held true to his campaign promise for a while and stopped issuing drilling permits and leases for the federal offshore and federal lands, although the courts and political reality shut that down. NONE of that would have happened if it were left up to the people and politicians in the states affected.

    Then are the $7500 tax credits wealthy EV owners get. In fact a lot of us red state taxpayers don't appreciate the $1.2 trillion (according to Goldman Sachs) in renewable energy pork dished out in the Inflation Reduction Act, which we'll have to pay for.

    Californians should be free to legislate any subsidies or restrictions like the above they want. But yeah, I agree, having them imposed or prevented by Washington D.C. for the states affected is kind of fascistic.

    It's nice to kind of be on the same page with you for once!

  11. #16863

    Scumbag Joe and the Junkie belong in prison

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Oh, I see both you and your Winger link ommitted this part:

    From the actual Gallup report:

    Captain Obvious, indeed.

    BTW, don't you think that is a weird polling question? I do.

    The Gallup topic question was:

    Americans Think History Will Rate Biden Presidency Negatively

    I mean, why not ask what Americans think of the Biden presidency? Why ask what they think some historians will think about it in the future?.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/07/o...en-legacy.html

    Biden's presidency will be remembered for four big illusions — and four big deceptions. They will not serve his legacy well.

    The illusions: first, that the 2021 surge in migration was seasonal ("happens every single solitary year," as Biden said that March); second, that the Taliban would not swiftly seize Afghanistan ("the likelihood there's going to be the Taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely," as he said that July); third, that inflation was transitory ("Our experts believe, and the data shows, that most of the price increases we've seen are expected to be temporary," also that July).

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    The fourth, and the biggest: that he was the best Democratic candidate to defeat Donald Trump: "I beat him once, and I will beat him again," he often insisted, even after the debate debacle.

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    That last illusion was pure hubris. But there was an arrogance to the first three, since he was loudly alerted (including by, well, me) on each point that he was making a fundamental mistake. The White House spent months in 2021 refusing to use the term "crisis" for the border — it was, instead, a "challenge. " Pentagon leaders warned the president that the Afghan government would soon collapse if the United States withdrew. Biden shrugged. Larry Summers was outspoken about the inflationary risks of Biden's $1. 9 trillion stimulus package. Biden ignored that, too.

    Those misjudgments doomed the Biden presidency, which never had a positive approval rating after the Afghan withdrawal. Maybe senior Democrats like Nancy Pelosi could have helped their party's chances if they had had the talk with Joe and Jill Biden about his re-election prospects in the spring of 2022 instead of the summer of 2024. It was left to Dean Phillips, the former Minnesota representative, to play the part of the boy who says the emperor has no clothes. Someone ought to nominate him for a Profile in Courage Award.

    Behind the misjudgments were the deceptions.

    Biden ran in 2020 on the implicit but clear pledge that he intended to serve a single term. ("If Biden is elected, he's going to be 82 years old in four years," one campaign adviser told Politico in 2019, "and he won't be running for re-election. ") he promised to be a bipartisan and moderate figure in the White House: "Unity" was the theme of his Inaugural Address. He, along with his entire administration, insisted he was mentally and physically fit to serve a second term. And he promised not to pardon his son Hunter if he were convicted of crimes.

    Of these deceptions, the first was the most forgivable and the most foolish: It's precisely because power is so alluring that the voluntary abdication would have been so admirable. His grudging decision in July not to run came too late to qualify as statesmanship.

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    The other deceptions: less forgivable. The centrist voters who put Biden in the White House saw him as a safe and consoling pair of hands. Instead, he sought to govern as the second coming of Lyndon Johnson, with spending proposals amounting to $7. 5 trillion — nearly twice what we spent to win World War II, adjusted for inflation. And he took to denouncing "MAGA Republicans" as a threat to "the very foundations of our Republic. "

    Those MAGA Republicans responded the next year by rallying again to Donald Trump, who now owes his second term to Biden's only term.

    Worst of all were the last two deceptions. Last month, The Wall Street Journal published a comprehensive and devastating report on the president's failing health. The paper reported that a former aide recalled a national security official saying, "he has good days and bad days, and today was a bad day so we're going to address this tomorrow" — in the spring of 2021. Perhaps the president didn't notice his own decline, so the deception might not have been his. But his entire senior staff must have noticed, and, as The Journal reported, they took advantage of it to enhance their own power. It's a national scandal that deserves a congressional inquiry.

    And Hunter? A father's love is admirable. A president's lie is not. In one of his last major political acts in office, Joe Biden forgot who he was. But it seems as if that already happened years ago. History won't be kind.

  12. #16862

    Donnie's setting another record

    Could it be that Trump's constant blathering about tariffs, trade and literal wars with our allies and adversaries alike, mass deportations and those horrible Cabinet nominations is working its predictable Classic Repub Results magic into the USA Economy and Stock Market a month earlier than his campaign promise to swing into action to achieve those results Starting On Day One?

    Stock market gain that followed Trump's election win is close to being wiped out.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/10/trum...ndroidappshare

    The Trump bump could become the Trump slump.

    The S&P 500′s return since Election Day has fallen to just around 0.5%. If that holds through Inauguration Day on Jan. 20, it will mark the worst performance for the broad index between an election and inauguration since Barack Obama came into the White House in 2009 amid the global financial crisis, according to data from Bespoke Investment Group.
    Damn. This terrific economy Dem Administration to Repub Administration handoff couldn't be more opposite than every horrific economy Repub Administration to Dem Administration handoff over the past 100 years.

    Well, if you're going put a man in the White House known far and wide, domestically and globally, in and out of politics, for turning everything he touches into shit and then it dies, you shouldn't be surprised when the forward-looking Stock Market responds the same as when a previous Repub produced a historic existential threat to Capitalism itself.

    Not even in the midst of an economy today that is by every measure The Envy of the World.

    Oh well.

  13. #16861

    Thanks, Joe, Kamala, Nancy, Chuck and the other Dems.

    Seriously. Is it really impossible for an outgoing Repub so-called president to hand off conditions like these to an incoming Dem President along with NO historic scandal, NO war, NO "Once in 100 Years Disaster", NO massive jobs destruction, NO skyrocketing crime rate, NO utter chaos and confusion at least once every century or so?

    Apparently, it is.

    USA Payrolls grew by 256,000 in December, much more than expected; unemployment rate falls to 4. 1%.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/10/jobs...ndroidappshare

    Nonfarm payrolls surged by 256,000 for the month, up from 212,000 in November and above the 155,000 forecast.

    The unemployment rate edged down to 4.1%, one-tenth of a point below expectations. A broader jobless measure moved down to 7.5%, a decrease of 0.2 percentage point and the lowest since June 2024.
    ................
    The report brings to a close a year in which employment grew each month, though inconsistently and at times raising questions over whether a recession loomed. However, the final two months showed a labor market still operating at strength as the Fed contemplates its next moves on monetary policy.
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  14. #16860
    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    I for one, won't miss the gas stations, oil lube or mechanic shops. Good residence! I remember when Americans said similar things about the Japanese and then Korean vehicles. But I think, it won't be long, before we'll be saying the same thing about Chinese EVs.



    With the influx of China EVs, becoming the norm in Europe and European car manufacturing shredding jobs like crazy, it's not looking so good for the survival of the European car market manufacturers.

    Even worse is the car suppliers, are now expected to receive a long sustained period of lower growth, with many who are now seeing a massive downward trend for auto parts, as consumers are buying more EVs (Chinese, Korean or European), where less manufacturing of car parts are need, the are set to set to cut staff by 50% over 2025 and onward.

    Legacy Automotive Fossil Fuel Fears in America Exist Too:

    However, those same survival fears exist in the US too, as legacy automotive manufactures in the USA, struggle to keep pace with EVs and continue to cling to a archaic "drill baby drill", gas gosling, fossil fueled, solution, and look to deny, push back or repeal the advancements in EVs and clean energy solutions.

    Just recently, the SCOTUS lead MAGA 6 (uncharacteristically), struck down and rejected the petition (submitted by Ohio and 16 other fascist Repub states), to have it rule on California's state right to govern and have jurisdiction over it own air quality and implement it's own clean air rules. The current EPA has now granted California's Air Resource Board approval, to enforce the latest new clear air mandates, which essential sets it on a path to ban the state sale of most ICE powered vehicles, by 2035.

    But naturally, true to form the hypocrite and narcissist, Trump, America's Hitler, said he'd overturn and reverse the EPA's decision. So much for the Repub's hollow belief with regards to "state's rights", to set their own rules!

    Trump and MAGA, would once again only serve to clownishly contradict themselves, like so many times, they've done before, applying a different set of rules for Repubs, when it suits them.
    As a Western European fed with quality standards, I don t buy chinese nor korean shit cars, nor chinese shit other products. I drive V8 Audi I powered with french E85 to save our planet, when batteries for Teslas and others make big pollution, Musk fucking our world. Just have to have a brain, when USA seem no brained, according to who they elected. I will ban USA products, under Trump and Musk who are bullshiting our world. I may buy a Dodge charger V8 , for the legend, but only after these 2 crazy. Our world have to resist to Trump, Musk and Putin, kind of 3 brothers.

  15. #16859

    US, European and Japanese Legacy Auto Manufacturers are ALL in Trouble...

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    I know what you mean. I felt the same way about GM cars back in the 90's and yet I persevered. I lost my mechanic's phone number after I switched to Japanese vehicles. I wonder how he's doing nowadays.
    I for one, won't miss the gas stations, oil lube or mechanic shops. Good residence! I remember when Americans said similar things about the Japanese and then Korean vehicles. But I think, it won't be long, before we'll be saying the same thing about Chinese EVs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    For a Western European, most american cars are lower quality than Europeans. And I also worry about Boeing safety, compare to Airbus. I would buy only a charger V8 for the legend, but not to drive 80000 kms per year between Paris and Germany. .
    With the influx of China EVs, becoming the norm in Europe and European car manufacturing shredding jobs like crazy, it's not looking so good for the survival of the European car market manufacturers.

    Even worse is the car suppliers, are now expected to receive a long sustained period of lower growth, with many who are now seeing a massive downward trend for auto parts, as consumers are buying more EVs (Chinese, Korean or European), where less manufacturing of car parts are need, the are set to set to cut staff by 50% over 2025 and onward.

    Legacy Automotive Fossil Fuel Fears in America Exist Too:

    However, those same survival fears exist in the US too, as legacy automotive manufactures in the USA, struggle to keep pace with EVs and continue to cling to a archaic "drill baby drill", gas gosling, fossil fueled, solution, and look to deny, push back or repeal the advancements in EVs and clean energy solutions.

    Just recently, the SCOTUS lead MAGA 6 (uncharacteristically), struck down and rejected the petition (submitted by Ohio and 16 other fascist Repub states), to have it rule on California's state right to govern and have jurisdiction over it own air quality and implement it's own clean air rules. The current EPA has now granted California's Air Resource Board approval, to enforce the latest new clear air mandates, which essential sets it on a path to ban the state sale of most ICE powered vehicles, by 2035.

    But naturally, true to form the hypocrite and narcissist, Trump, America's Hitler, said he'd overturn and reverse the EPA's decision. So much for the Repub's hollow belief with regards to "state's rights", to set their own rules!

    Trump and MAGA, would once again only serve to clownishly contradict themselves, like so many times, they've done before, applying a different set of rules for Repubs, when it suits them.

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