Sao Paulo Reports

[Steve 9696]

BRL 800-1000 at scandallo: is it an average reasonable price for ST or LT?

I would def not say 800-1000 is average. Esp 800. Thats going to take some expert negotiating or willing to settle. Hard for a newbie. That said all the girls I went with were 1000-1200 right out the gate and I didn't try to push them down. I'the figure between 1000-1500 esp if a newbie. I wouldn't pay more than that. This is the HOUR price at the hotel there. Figure double that approx for taking her overnight to your place.

[NamasteParis]

- Scandallo, still haven't made my way there on this trip but planning to do so on Monday. IIRC, going before 7 pm the entry was cheaper and all consumable. Girl prices range quite a bit. They'll quote you BRL2000 but that really means they'll do BRL800-1000

BRL 800-1000 at scandallo: is it an average reasonable price for ST or LT?

[Combo]

It's interesting that guys selectively read these posts and think entire So Paulo scene is scandallo. Admittedly it's probably best mongering venue in the world with a price to match. It would crazy to go SP and not visit scandallo at least once. But they ignore all of the other posts of the $12 to $50 per session venues which is comparable or even cheaper than the other cities. Prives are $12 to $20. Clinicas are $20 to $50. High end clinicas are $100 to $140. Other boates besides scandallo are $100 and up.

Yeah, WanderingMan's numbers are exaggerated. Even if Scandallo (the most expensive venue), you don't need to pay nearly the numbers he references.

[Steve 9696]

It's interesting that guys selectively read these posts and think entire So Paulo scene is scandallo. Admittedly it's probably best mongering venue in the world with a price to match. It would crazy to go SP and not visit scandallo at least once. But they ignore all of the other posts of the $12 to $50 per session venues which is comparable or even cheaper than the other cities. Prives are $12 to $20. Clinicas are $20 to $50. High end clinicas are $100 to $140. Other boates besides scandallo are $100 and up.

Yeah not sure where the OP is getting his info. There are some reports where the $ and Reais are get confused so maybe 500 R not 500 $.

To state the facts of my recent visit. The girl price specifically in USD (and you guys know there are lower than this):

Scandallo - $180-200.

Casarao - $85.

Friends 57 - $50.

All these girls were comparable in looks. 7+. (Tho def a couple nines at Scandallo).

It is nearly impossible to spend $1000 a night in So Paulo. Came close but that included 2 girls, 2 rooms, a bottle of gin, cigars and 8 hours of partying. Obv you don't need to do that and it's not an apples to apples comparison. There is nothing like Scandallo in any of the countries the OP mentioned.

Oh and as to why there are so many Brasileira fans. I too have traveled all over and find Brasileiras unique. One poster uses the term IOP illusion of passion for a girl making it feel like true GFE. I personally believe that with a lot of Brazilian girls its not an illusion that they commit 100% to the moment. I cant think of the last time a Brazilian girl had to use lube cuz she wasnt naturally wet. Or didnt DFK like a beast. I think they teach kissing in middle school. 😜 Cuz almost all Brazilian girls love to kiss and kiss like the devil and angel all in one.

[Turgid]

When you include traveling, lodging, and other expenses involved, most destinations end up as expensive as the US......

That's so for short trips where you bonk say four or five women. It would have been cheaper to do that at home. However, for longer trips where you have fun with 30 or 40 babes its cheaper abroad overall.

[Member #3137]

I travel quite a bit around the world and last year visited Thailand, Havana, Cartagena, and Korea. From many testimonials in the Sao Paulo reports, it appears as though the cost nears $400 to $500 USD for one transaction. Some indicated a lady's drink cost $65 USD. When factoring other expenses, that could easily cost $1000 daily. While I can afford that daily price, and did so when visiting Ireland a few years ago, it seems excessive when compared to other countries like Colombia.

As time goes on, I have found traveling to the Far East isn't the best due to time constraints and other factors. Thailand was enjoyably when younger, but the allure seems to have faded with time. It has delicious food and scenery though. Korea has enjoyable food but the people seem tense. Havana proved enjoyable for visiting, and the food was great, it felt very safe, but I felt as though others were watching and avoided mongering. I formerly visited the Dominican Republic but the North coast doesn't offer a pleasant atmosphere..

Those numbers are not representative of the reality here. I'm in Sao Paulo right now, having a great time. These prices are accurate as of late January 2025:

- High end clinica (Sharon, Palms, etc) - BRL700 all in ( USD115). High quality talent, 1 HR session, great locations.

- Seeking Arrangement. This varies, but on average BRL800-1000 (USD135-170) for very high quality semi-pros from anywhere ranging between 3 hours to overnight. Never paid more than BRL1000 for an overnight here. These are more often than not university students, Instagram influencers, etc. Just last night I had a 25 y / o gym girl that was fucking amazing, stayed overnight and fucked like a champ. Plus, kissing and BBBJ.

- Scandallo, still haven't made my way there on this trip but planning to do so on Monday. IIRC, going before 7 pm the entry was cheaper and all consumable. Girl prices range quite a bit. They'll quote you BRL2000 but that really means they'll do BRL800-1000 and they're just trying to get more money because you look like a tourist. Negotiate. Negotiate hard. Scandallo is a buyer's market, take advantage of that. If she won't budge, there are probably 5 others who are willing to entertain your price. These prices are reasonable for what I consider the best mongering space in the world. I've never seen any other place like it.

Well, hope this helps friend. Do not be afraid to come to Brazil, prices are not scandalous and the quality you get is unbelievable, specially if you like Latin women. Plus, good food, nice atmosphere, friendly locals and great steak. Brazil is always a good idea.

[SamaRiding]

I travel quite a bit around the world and last year visited Thailand, Havana, Cartagena, and Korea. From many testimonials in the Sao Paulo reports, it appears as though the cost nears $400 to $500 USD for one transaction. Some indicated a lady's drink cost $65 USD. When factoring other expenses, that could easily cost $1000 daily.

It's interesting that guys selectively read these posts and think entire São Paulo scene is scandallo. Admittedly it's probably best mongering venue in the world with a price to match. It would crazy to go SP and not visit scandallo at least once. But they ignore all of the other posts of the $12 to $50 per session venues which is comparable or even cheaper than the other cities. Prives are $12 to $20. Clinicas are $20 to $50. High end clinicas are $100 to $140. Other boates besides scandallo are $100 and up.

[The Cane]

I travel quite a bit around the world and last year visited Thailand, Havana, Cartagena, and Korea. From many testimonials in the Sao Paulo reports, it appears as though the cost nears $400 to $500 USD for one transaction. Some indicated a lady's drink cost $65 USD. When factoring other expenses, that could easily cost $1000 daily. While I can afford that daily price, and did so when visiting Ireland a few years ago, it seems excessive when compared to other countries like Colombia.

As time goes on, I have found traveling to the Far East isn't the best due to time constraints and other factors. Thailand was enjoyably when younger, but the allure seems to have faded with time. It has delicious food and scenery though. Korea has enjoyable food but the people seem tense. Havana proved enjoyable for visiting, and the food was great, it felt very safe, but I felt as though others were watching and avoided mongering. I formerly visited the Dominican Republic but the North coast doesn't offer a pleasant atmosphere.

Right now I am considering revisiting Colombia, but perhaps somewhere other than Cartagena. I liked it there for many reasons, but would like to expand. I am also reading about Costa Rica though there seem to be mixed reviews.

I like Hispanic women. What makes Brazilian women so special they seem to have so many men in here under their spells?

As always, thanks to everyone for their assistance. It's greatly appreciated.

I don't know where you're getting your pricing from. Definitely not from me because I have never bought a $65 lady drink in Brazil. In fact, rarely have I ever bought a lady drink at all in Brazil! Not because I'm cheap (I travel with big mongering budgets) but because that's not an integral part of the scene in Brazil, say like in Thailand or other parts of Asia as example. Also, don't know how in the world you're tallying the average transaction at $400 to $500 bucks. That's not true as you can do much, much better than that. Brazil has many market segments you can tap, some being quite reasonable, like the clinicas in Sampa and the prives in Rio. Again, not going is your loss bro!

[WanderingMan]

When you include traveling, lodging, and other expenses involved, most destinations end up as expensive as the US.

Yes Sao Paulo is generally more expensive than a lot of other destinations. It's also just about impossible to beat for quantity and quality.

I travel quite a bit around the world and last year visited Thailand, Havana, Cartagena, and Korea. From many testimonials in the Sao Paulo reports, it appears as though the cost nears $400 to $500 USD for one transaction. Some indicated a lady's drink cost $65 USD. When factoring other expenses, that could easily cost $1000 daily. While I can afford that daily price, and did so when visiting Ireland a few years ago, it seems excessive when compared to other countries like Colombia.

As time goes on, I have found traveling to the Far East isn't the best due to time constraints and other factors. Thailand was enjoyably when younger, but the allure seems to have faded with time. It has delicious food and scenery though. Korea has enjoyable food but the people seem tense. Havana proved enjoyable for visiting, and the food was great, it felt very safe, but I felt as though others were watching and avoided mongering. I formerly visited the Dominican Republic but the North coast doesn't offer a pleasant atmosphere.

Right now I am considering revisiting Colombia, but perhaps somewhere other than Cartagena. I liked it there for many reasons, but would like to expand. I am also reading about Costa Rica though there seem to be mixed reviews.

I like Hispanic women. What makes Brazilian women so special they seem to have so many men in here under their spells?

As always, thanks to everyone for their assistance. It's greatly appreciated.

[Axel Heyst]

I see Axel agrees with you but I have to disagree with both of you. Quality is subjective so I won't argue about the quality and performance levels of Brazilian girls. For you and many others they are the best. But quantity?? It's not even close, many destinations have many more working girls than Brazil.

Ok Houston, you are right. I just reread my post, and that line, "You hit the nail on the head Combo. I couldn't agree more. " Is a little vague and over the top. What can I say? I was in a good mood when I wrote it because I had just finished texting with my favorite SP gal and I was on a long distance high. KKK.

But I will stand by my 3rd sentence in that paragraph, "the quantity / quality profile is very high in SP as is the average Brazilian working girl's attitude toward her clients".

So, getting back to the OP; I highly recommend international travel regardless of the transportation cost and seeing and doing as much as possible in the remaining great punting destinations before it all goes away or declines in quality forever! As for the highest quantity of doable working girls available, multiplicity of venues, and ease of access; no current destination in the world comes even close to the scene in BKK or Pattaya. Sao Paulo, certainly, is not at that volume level even though I can't think of any place in BKK or Pat that rivals Scandallo for quantity or quality. SP feels to me more like Jakarta, which has a great nightlife scene too, with its bordellos, nightclubs, and pick up bars that are spread-out all-over town and where everything is relatively discreet until you approach the front door.

So, I say the same thing to both camps. To my fellow punters who like to party in SE Asia, I say you got to check out Brazil and to my friends who like to party in Brazil, I say you got to check out BKK, Pat, CGK, and Phnom. Have fun, Will travel.

A. H.

[Nounce]

But quantity?? It's not even close

I agree with you and I won't be the only one.

[Houston Player]

When you include traveling, lodging, and other expenses involved, most destinations end up as expensive as the US.

Yes So Paulo is generally more expensive than a lot of other destinations. It's also just about impossible to beat for quantity and quality.

I see Axel agrees with you but I have to disagree with both of you. Quality is subjective so I won't argue about the quality and performance levels of Brazilian girls. For you and many others they are the best. But quantity?? It's not even close, many destinations have many more working girls than Brazil.

[Juanjo767]

This is already well-known thank you. I called it dual-pricing because the scam targets only foreign credit card. Holders of Brazilian credit cards are not affected. In principle nothing would prevent them from being affected. Prices in Real could, in principle, be converted into Dollars, then back into Reais (maybe even to Euro then Dollars then back into Real with a detour into Danish Crown and Renminbi for good measure?). The fact is they aren't.

Ok. You said worse than Thailand, so I figured that I would point that out since the same thing happens in Thailand.

[Juanjo767]

How people spend so much time writing up a report, and then don't add basic information like addresses. Those same people are always the first to spam RTFF.

Prime.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/itbPvuvg259GT4rg9

Miruna (Not Maruna. The amount of time lost searching for Maruna, if there is such a place).

https://maps.app.goo.gl/4sxBrVP621ShFyf68

Abbbora.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/n55rLKJLTS7ZCm7cA

57 House Friends Club.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/2H27zcsvHGnJW9KCA

Casaro Augusta.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/eZ2fKzXcH3Q6Wog17

Scandallo Lounge.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/A659oQmcR3u3K6G57

In preparing for a trip, these are the locations that I found.

I would appreciate it if the community at large would let me know if I have the wrong location, or have missed something.

I would love to have access to World Traveler 69's Sao Paulo map. However, I don't want the paper trail.

[XXL]

You should always pay in the local currency. Paying in your currency is the scam. When you pay in your currency, they can charge you whatever exchange rate they want. In addition to that, you are typically charged a fee for that conversion. Since your bank will STILL charge you a fee for the conversion, you are not gaining anything by doing the conversion up front.

If you are charged in your local currency, you should have them cancel the purchase and redo it, ESPECIALLY if it is something expensive like a plane ticket.

This is already well-known thank you. I called it dual-pricing because the scam targets only foreign credit card. Holders of Brazilian credit cards are not affected. In principle nothing would prevent them from being affected. Prices in Real could, in principle, be converted into Dollars, then back into Reais (maybe even to Euro then Dollars then back into Real with a detour into Danish Crown and Renminbi for good measure?). The fact is they aren't.