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  1. #17053
    Quote Originally Posted by IamLookin  [View Original Post]
    Not true, many Americans overstay their stay because they have low paying jobs back in the states and with what they have in savings they can live much better in Medellin
    Okay so I guess you just taught the world something new. The reason as to why a person performs an act has bearing on whether such act is considered a crime or not. Incredible.

  2. #17052
    Not true, many Americans overstay their stay because they have low paying jobs back in the states and with what they have in savings they can live much better in Medellin

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Okay. Now everyone sees that you are trolling. Americans overstaying their visas is literally foreigners doing illegal stuff. Americans are actually foreigners and it is illegal to overstay. You have done it twice now. Next you will be saying where did I write human beings exercising? I wrote about people working out.

  3. #17051
    Hmm, maybe because I know of Americans that over stay there stay??

    Same to you A- hole!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Huacho  [View Original Post]
    How do you know whether an American is there legally or not? Hint: you don't. So maybe just shut the fuck up.

  4. #17050
    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Not sure what your overall view or statement being made is, but I would rank or rate many of the Korean and Chinese EVs, as being better or on par with that of Porsche, Audi, Toyota, Honda, Ford or GM..
    If you think Chinese cars and products are quality, then I can't do anything for you. They only sell just because they are cheap, but not for quality. Most USA products and foods are also low quality. I avoid to buy Chinese products, because shit quality for my standards, but also not to support shameful Chinese government, land of lies and no human rights. When USA are so scared of China, Trump had to follow justice and keep on forbidding full of bullshits tok tok, but Trump like so much bullshits he is so used to play. Also easy, do like me, don t buy Chinese shits. Then, You are not scared of them, just worrying about human rights there.

  5. #17049

    Good point. I forgot that one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    And let's not forget the Unholy Grail of illegal immigration: the meat-packing facilities.

    https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...ystem-00200013

    I'm so tired of this blatant hypocrisy that I too LOOK FORWARD to Trump fulfilling his pledge to end illegal immigration.

    Of course, you and I and everyone else with an ounce of a brain knows it'll never happen. Illegal workers are too important to the US economy. The noise will subside, and it's going to be back to business as usual aside from broken hopes and broken families that are unfortunate enough to be caught in the middle of Trump's media blitzkrieg.
    They are obviously picking and choosing their targets. He'll, I think many of the Trump "sweeps" are of immigrants already in holding pens waiting for a ruling on their visa. LOL.

    It would be so easy to round up thousands of undocumented workers in a nanosecond if they targeted meat packing plants, Gulf of America vacation destinations, garment factories, Trump Golf Resorts, Trump Hotels, Trump Tower Office Building janitorial departments, every loading dock receiving Amazon order shipment and deliveries and so on.

    Why haven't they done it?

  6. #17048

    I would be reporting it, too, however

    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    I called in between 2017-2021 and I have them on speed dial again as should everyone else!

    https://www.ice.gov/contact
    Oh, I would be calling in and reporting this very day, too!

    However, it would have been stupid and counterproductive to the Great Biden / Dem Recovery of 2021-2024 from the Great Trump / Repub Economic Disaster that Biden inherited to have called in those reports from about Election Day 2020 to Election Day 2024.

    During those years Biden brilliantly exploited increased immigration to stimulate the economy / recovery, knowing full well that it was helping to create more jobs, expand the economy, prevent Trump's Pandemic Inflation from getting out of control and all without increasing the crime rate by so much as a tiny tick. In fact, it coincided with Biden greatly reducing the crime rate that skyrocketed under Trump.

    But now that 49.7% of the electorate wants to further elevate and enrich Trump, President Musk and their billionaire buddies at all cost and make the other 99% of Americans pay for it, it's time to really deliver the Trump Campaign promises ASAP!
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  7. #17047

    And so it begins, continued

    Trump's Pandemic Part 2, dot #6.

    Yes, a judge has blocked this for the moment. But it is glaringly obvious that Trump is pulling all the stops to leave Americans most likely exposed to it bare ass naked against prevention and treatment for what might very well be an emerging animal-to-human transmission and mutation of the H5 virus, among many other issues:

    Medicaid payment portals down after Trumps federal funding freeze.
    Lawmakers and state officials say portals inaccessible for one of largest health insurance programs in US.


    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...reeze-medicaid

    Trump's Administration now appears to be trying to float the idea that they had no idea what "shutting down the government" meant. Considering their astonishing ignorance about the most basic aspects of ordinary life, they might actually manage to convince a few people to accept that excuse.

  8. #17046

    Well I posit that the USA needs to ban ALL American investment in the CCP

    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Not sure what your overall view or statement being made is, but I would rank or rate many of the Korean and Chinese EVs, as being better or on par with that of Porsche, Audi, Toyota, Honda, Ford or GM.



    Again, you couldn't be more wrong!

    The more that both America and Europe, hang on to their legacy fallacies, that our cars, EVs, computer chips, AI or machine technology, is still better than anything China has to offer, the more devastating the disruption is likely to be, when China delivers that knockout punch and blindsides the U.S. and Europe, due to our Trumpian style arrogance and hubris.

    Take the huge disruption, for example, that China's DeepSeek's AI, just delivered and currently doing to AI sector and the NVIDIA's of the world and BYD disrupting and destroying legacy auto, like Toyota, Nissan, Stellantis and VW, will ultimately playout to the detriment of the U.S. and Europe, if they cannot step-up and be as competitive, innovative, efficient or as economical in producing these products, as China.
    BYD wouldn't even exist without IP theft from American companies, and investment from Scumbags like Larry Fink and Warren Buffet.

    https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law...owners-us-says

    Our Lord and Savior needs to ban both.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/28/u...icy-blitz.html

    Trump's 'Flood the Zone' Strategy Leaves Opponents Gasping in Outrage.

    A deliberate effort by the president and his team to roll out an unceasing flow of initiatives has knocked his rivals off balance in the first days of the new administration.

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    President Trump onstage at a lectern with his arms out toward the audience.

    Some Democrats have suggested that President Trump and his aides may soon run out of steam, exhausting their policy moves and eventually themselves. Credit. Kenny Holston / The New York Times.

    Luke Broadwater.

    By Luke Broadwater.

    Reporting from Washington.

    Jan. 28,2025, 6:46 pm ET.

    The strategy has existed since at least 2018, when the former Trump administration strategist Stephen K. Bannon boasted of the ability to overwhelm Democrats and any media opposition through a determined effort to "flood the zone" with initiatives.

    This time, the flood is bigger, wider and more brutally efficient. As President Trump begins his second term, he has enacted his agenda at breakneck speed as part of an intentional plan to knock his opponents off balance and dilute their response.

    Firing inspectors general. Sweeping clemency for Jan. 6 defendants. Investigations of perceived enemies. A federal hiring freeze. Moving to end birthright citizenship. An immigration crackdown. Terminating diversity, equity and inclusion programs. Revoking security clearances.

    On Tuesday, just when Democrats thought they might come up for air, news broke that Mr. Trump had ordered a freeze on trillions of dollars in federal grants and loans, prompting a new round of outrage.

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    But the flood has had its intended disorienting effect: How can Democrats fight back when they can't catch their breath?

    "It's been overwhelming sensory overload," said Representative Jamie Raskin of Maryland, the top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee.

    "One moment I'm on the phone with someone who does cancer drug clinical medical trials for the government who has been slated for removal because one small part of her job is outreach to the minority community," he said. "The next moment I'm talking to lawyers at the Department of Justice and they've been slated to be involuntarily reassigned. It just doesn't stop. ".

    One of the architects of Mr. Trump's rapid-pace strategy is Stephen Miller, the deputy White House chief of staff for policy, who has pushed the flood-the-zone tactic. Mr. Miller believes that those he regards as Mr. Trump's enemies have limited bandwidth for opposition, and he has told people that the goal is to overwhelm them with a blitz of activity.

    "The breakneck speed is putting everyone on their heels," said Ryan Walker, the executive vice president of Heritage Action for America, a conservative advocacy group that has developed policies embraced by Mr. Trump. Mr. Walker said he had seen a "sea change from the first administration" in terms of how quickly the new administration was working.

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    Some Democrats have suggested that Mr. Trump and his aides may soon run out of steam, exhausting their policy moves and eventually themselves. Mr. Raskin said Democrats needed to fight the feeling of being disoriented, weather the torrent of news and determine which policies they could actually fight in court.

    "Everyone needs to maintain as much mental clarity and emotional composure as possible," he said. "We need to figure out where the administration has clearly violated the Constitution, such as with birthright citizenship, and where the courts will still work for us. In other cases, we're going to have to be creative and nimble. ".

    Representative Hakeem Jeffries, Democrat of New York and the minority leader, called a meeting on Wednesday to open a "comprehensive three-pronged counteroffensive" against Mr. Trump's blitz. Democrats believe the Trump administration erred badly by freezing grants relied on by many Americans, and will discuss contesting that move through legislation and a communications strategy.

    "It's a little bit like drinking from a fire hose," Representative Gerald E. Connolly of Virginia, the top Democrat on the Oversight Committee, said of the pace of Mr. Trump's moves. But he said that speed is likely to cause sloppiness and mistakes.

    "They're going to stumble," Mr. Connolly said. "They're going to screw up, and we're going to pounce when they do. In their haste to remake the federal government, they're going to make big, big mistakes. ".

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    There was a similar feeling from advocacy groups trying to keep up with Mr. Trump's sweeping immigration changes. Within hours of taking office, Mr. Trump sought to bar asylum for people arriving at the southern border, suspend the Refugee Admissions Program and declare migrant crossings at the USA -Mexico border a national emergency. The administration welcomed news crews to ride along with federal agents as they pursued undocumented immigrants.

    "The Trump administration is issuing multiple overlapping orders in an effort to have us play Whac-a-Mole. But we are prepared to do that," said Lee Gelernt, an American Civil Liberties Union lawyer who represented the group in many of the highest-profile cases during the first Trump administration, including a challenge to the family separation policy.

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    Stephen Miller on a huge screen hanging from the ceiling of a large arena.

    Stephen Miller, the deputy White House chief of staff for policy, has advocated the "flood the zone" strategy. Credit. Haiyun Jiang for The New York Times.

    During the first Trump administration, many on the right were still learning how to use the levers of government to achieve their goals. Now they have entered office ready for a full-scale blitz.

    "They were not this prepared," Mr. Walker said. "They had not done this much homework before getting into office. And importantly, they've been able to find acting folks in all of these agencies to get this stuff across the finish line, and that is a feat of personnel management that we just didn't see in the first administration. ".

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    Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, Republican of Georgia and the chairwoman of new House subcommittee aiming to scale back government by working with Elon Musk's government efficiency effort, said Democrats should get used to late-night policy moves that were unknown during the Biden administration.

    Mr. Trump's agenda was endorsed by the voters, Ms. Greene said, and he is working "as fast as humanly possible" to enact it.

    "That requires staying up late at night," she said.

    On Mr. Bannon's "War Room" podcast this weekend, his voice was filled with pride as he praised the pace of the new administration.

    "If you look at the scale, the depth and the urgency, that comes from years of people working on this," he said. "This didn't happen overnight. ".

    He singled out Mr. Miller for praise, before encouraging the administration to push forward relentlessly.

    "All pedal, no brake. Drive it. Drive it. Drive it," he said, adding: "When you've got this kind of momentum, you do not stop, you do not think. You go, you go, you go. ".

  9. #17045

    Chinese EVs are as good or better than...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Many in Europe feel shame now from jumping monkey Musk behavior. I think Tesla should fall in Europe. Do you compare Hyundai or Kia with Porsche or Audi? When I needed to improve my Audi V8 and engineerd powered with french gas from agriculture, getting more powerful and 0% pollution on technical control, to save our planet, when Tesla batteries and chineses make pollution. When he doesn t bullshit like always, but maybe he will find who killed JFK? Senile old Trump cry like a baby about USA 350 billions debt with Europe: Europe is bad with us, when for sure not buying shit USA foods to get sick and obese, when Coca and McDo make our children obese, nor USA cars which can t compete with European cars.
    Not sure what your overall view or statement being made is, but I would rank or rate many of the Korean and Chinese EVs, as being better or on par with that of Porsche, Audi, Toyota, Honda, Ford or GM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Americans dream about Porsche, Audi, MB or BM, or french hands made Bugatti, or Ferrari or Maserati, when only very few Europeans dream about American cars. Rather than crying like a senile baby, he should work to improve USA products quality, when quality is not important in USA, but just money, so, don t ask others to buy your shit, when far below European standards for quality, and he has big work with Boeing.
    Again, you couldn't be more wrong!

    The more that both America and Europe, hang on to their legacy fallacies, that our cars, EVs, computer chips, AI or machine technology, is still better than anything China has to offer, the more devastating the disruption is likely to be, when China delivers that knockout punch and blindsides the U.S. and Europe, due to our Trumpian style arrogance and hubris.

    Take the huge disruption, for example, that China's DeepSeek's AI, currently just delivered to the AI sector and the NVIDIA's of the world. Look at BYD, disrupting and destroying legacy auto, like Toyota, Nissan, Stellantis and VW.

    Ultimately, these disruptions will playout to the detriment of the U.S. and Europe, if they cannot step-up and be as competitive, innovative, efficient or as economical in producing these products, as China can.

  10. #17044

    As I read it

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    What do you make of the above? I am not an attorney. Technicalities are a wonderful thing. But can you make the case in court given the precedent of the Supreme Court ruling Seila Law v CFPB (2020)?
    A president has the power and authority to do it, but can still be violating Federal Law if he does it for, as an example, political reasons or simply to prevent them from busting him and his administration for waste, fraud and abuse.

    Consequently, and according to the report I posted:

    Federal law requires presidents to give Congress "substantive rationale, including detailed and case specific reasons" for the dismissals 30 days before the firings, the CIGIE said in a letter to White House personnel director Sergio Gor on Friday, per Reuters.
    Has Trump done that?

    I assume his response would be his standard, "We're looking into that. We're looking at everything. The full report on that will be out in Two Weeks. Now, hand me my 9 iron. " weasley dodge.
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  11. #17043

    Execution? Or white-collar reasonable doubt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis 2008  [View Original Post]
    So, yeah, this was the same as the Trump case in the same locale. It is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt not guilty if you suspect someone committed a crime. And like with Trump, liars were allowed to testify and people who were telling the truth and would have cast doubt on the guilt of the accused were excluded.
    Oddly enough, I think MDS1, may have said it best (without the diatribe and REAMS of right-wing COPYRIGHT propaganda...)

    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    He should not have been pardoned, he should of been executed!!
    Here we go with the criminal "white-collar" defense:

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis 2008  [View Original Post]
    I think what really got me is the federal agents corruption. They pocketed about a $1 million apiece in Bitcoin and were caught. At that point, the entire motivation for LE IMO becomes suspect. Was getting the right guy their motivation or was it lining their pockets? To me, that is huge reasonable doubt, and I am not sure they got the right guy.
    Forgive me for laughing just a tad, at your response. As it's always gives me a smile and a chuckle, when conservative types and "Republican Libertarians" are pining about some guy going to jail for white-collar crime, that is supposedly "non-violent" and a "victim less" crime.

    Not sure why should it come as a shock to you, that federal agents/cops would pocket some of the illicit proceeds of a crime? What, you think cops/police officers, only do it when they arrest some blue-collar street thug drug dealer or high-level street kingpin drug bust? I'm sure there's reasonable doubt in those cases too.

    The way I see it, your "reasonable doubt" argument, is simply a case of, "how expensive of a suit is your lawyer wearing and how good are they at litigation, while wearing said suit"?

    Note, you often bring up these moot points, as if their rich/expensive lawyers didn't get the opportunity, to defend/argue such evidentiary findings and "reasonable doubts".

  12. #17042
    I think that is a story that would have to be hyped heavily to gain any news cycle traction. There would have to be some sort of juicy angle. Even the pedos who get deported back to the US don't stay in the news more than a day or two.

    Quote Originally Posted by IamLookin  [View Original Post]
    There are plenty of Americans living in Colombia illegally. Mostly in the Medellin area. They are living off the low cost of living. Many of which never had a job paying more than minimum wage..

    IF they were deported and treated like prisoners, it will be all over the news media in the USA as the "unjust" treatment of Americans.

  13. #17041

    Liars and hypocrites.

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Not only is it legal for undocumented immigrants claiming to seek asylum to be here, it is not automatically a crime to be an undocumented immigrant anyway:

    Is Being an Undocumented Immigrant a Crime?

    https://www.dharlawllp.com/is-being-...grant-a-crime/

    However, I do sincerely wish and pray that every American who passes by a farm and suspects there are undocumented migrants working on that farm to please for the love of God report them to the authorities so Trump can round them up, herd them onto the biggest and most expensive military aircraft on the planet, fly them over their home country, be refused landing, fly them back to the USA, harbor them there for a few days, fly them back over their home country, rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat, all while Trump is hopping up and down Yosimite Sam mad at whatever failed Trump golf resort he happens to be at that day, droning on in his hilarious "menacing" monotone about imposing 25%-200% Trump Tariffs on the American Consumer.

    The same with all the suspected restaurant workers, hotel workers, janitorial and trash collection workers, construction workers, auto mechanics, child care service workers, maids, everyone and everything, everywhere all at once.

    In fact, I am damned pissed that Trump did not get 'er done on Day One like he promised for the past 4 years. By now, one full unproductive golf-filled week into it, there ought to be NO undocumented immigrants performing any jobs anywhere in the USA!

    I want the American people to get absolutely everything Trump promised them and for which they either voted or permitted to come about by not voting for Kamala Harris and every other Dem up and down their ballot.

    They should get exactly that ASAP because they oh so richly deserve it.
    And let's not forget the Unholy Grail of illegal immigration: the meat-packing facilities.

    The U.S. food system is propped up by low-wage immigrant workers from farm to table. From Californias strawberry fields to Floridas orange orchards, at least 70 percent of the agricultural workers who harvest our crops were born outside the U.S. In our meatpacking plants, nearly half of the people who slaughter, cut and package beef, pork and poultry were born elsewhere. And over a quarter of the truck drivers who shuttle cows to slaughterhouses and steaks to supermarkets are foreign-born, too.
    https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...ystem-00200013

    I'm so tired of this blatant hypocrisy that I too LOOK FORWARD to Trump fulfilling his pledge to end illegal immigration.

    Of course, you and I and everyone else with an ounce of a brain knows it'll never happen. Illegal workers are too important to the US economy. The noise will subside, and it's going to be back to business as usual aside from broken hopes and broken families that are unfortunate enough to be caught in the middle of Trump's media blitzkrieg.

  14. #17040

    Poison dealers need to be executed, and let me be the 1st to volunteer to do it

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Because Trump was tried in the same court room. Honestly, the media coverage of this was so bad that I cannot blame your outrage. You have to read alternative sources to get to the truth.

    https://freemansperspective.com/why-...t-be-pardoned/

    First of all, it was politically driven, and openly. (See here and here.) That's not a good thing, especially because it poisoned the jury pool.

    Next, the FBI flatly lied about how they found Silk Road's server. See here. What they really did was almost certainly parallel construction, which is simply a way to lie to the court.

    A mere two months before Ulbricht's arrest, the lead DHS investigator swore under oath that Mark Karpeles of Mt. Gox (rather than Ross) was the person running the Silk Road site. The jury, however, wasn't allowed to know this.

    Around the same time, two federal agents investigating the case pled guilty to corruption related to it. But again the jury wasn't allowed to know.

    The government spied on Ulbricht's Internet traffic (along with others who used the same router) without showing probable cause and without a warrant, which again became a non-issue.

    Murder-for-hire charges were manufactured by federal agents then massively publicized, which poisoned public opinion, and along with it (again) the jury pool. These flamboyant charges, however, were never tried, never proved, and were quietly dropped as the case proceeded.

    The defense very early admitted that Ross had created the Silk Road service, but maintained that he had handed it off to others when it got too big for him to operate himself. (Ross was a physicist, not a programmer.)

    That same afternoon, I was blown away by the judge announcing that she had altered the trial transcript over the weekend. This is something that simply cannot be done in an American court, and yet, at the highly prestigious US District Court at 500 Pearl Street in lower Manhattan, I listened to a judge announce that she had done precisely that. The judge sat in her high perch and said this (which is fairly close to verbatim):

    Last Thursday when agent Der-Yeghiayan was testifying under cross examination, I thought the prosecutors could have objected more. And so, over the weekend, I edited the trial transcript and removed all the testimony that could have been objected to.

    The prosecution's forensic evidence, provided by an FBI agent, was far below any professional level. The tools used were bad choices, and when the metadata (the times and dates you see when you open File Manager) are exactly the same for every file, it's inescapably clear that they've been altered.

    The most pathetic moment came when the prosecutors forced one of Ross's old friends to testify that Ross asked his advice when building the Silk Road site. He was testifying only because he'd be thrown in jail if he didn't, making the emotions surrounding the moment a horrifying mix of pity (the man looked like he had been tortured, minus the bruises) and disgust with a man betraying his friend to a horrible fate.

    Now I'll get back to the question I asked at the beginning of this article: If you think what Ross did was a punishable offense, what sort of penalty should have been applied?

    Whatever your answer, I suspect it doesn't match what the judge handed down: Ross was given as a first time, nonviolent offender who is loved by everyone who knows him two life sentences plus 40 years.

    Again you'll make up your own mind, but to me that's not justice, it's a head on a pike being paraded around the castle.

    End of link.

    So, yeah, this was the same as the Trump case in the same locale. It is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt not guilty if you suspect someone committed a crime. And like with Trump, liars were allowed to testify and people who were telling the truth and would have cast doubt on the guilt of the accused were excluded.

    I think what really got me is the federal agents corruption. They pocketed about a $1 million apiece in Bitcoin and were caught. At that point, the entire motivation for LE IMO becomes suspect. Was getting the right guy their motivation or was it lining their pockets? To me, that is huge reasonable doubt, and I am not sure they got the right guy.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...l/74517501007/

    I saw a picture of this scumbag being released from his cage that he should of died in, with a huge shit eating grin.

    Like he WON.

    I really hope someone kills him before the week is over!

    I'm no fan of dirty cops and courts, but this scumbag isn't innocent.

    Why not just a new trial?

  15. #17039
    Quote Originally Posted by IamLookin  [View Original Post]
    There are plenty of Americans living in Colombia illegally. Mostly in the Medellin area. They are living off the low cost of living. Many of which never had a job paying more than minimum wage.. IF they were deported and treated like prisoners, it will be all over the news media in the USA as the "unjust" treatment of Americans.
    How do you know whether an American is there legally or not? Hint: you don't. So maybe just shut the fuck up.

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