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  1. #19203

    Mobilematter eSIM

    Previous discussions on the forum on the difficulty of getting a Brazilian SIM chip without a CPF. There are data eSIMs like holafly but they don't give you a Brazilian phone number for SMS and phone calls. I found Mobilematter and they do offer a 30 day tourist eSIM plan which gives a Brazilian phone number (I got a Rio area code) and 10 Gb with SMS and phone calls. For $22. There are larger data plans for slightly more money. No ID verification needed. It's a CONTEL eSIM which runs on the TIM network. I brought it in the states, easy QR code set up and can set it up before leaving. I couldn't get SMS in the states but once I landed in Brazil, everything worked once it's connected on TIM. Got SMS for WhatsApp etc. Not sure it's renewable, didn't see an option for that.

  2. #19202

    Moema planes

    Quote Originally Posted by BobNSuzy  [View Original Post]
    When going to So Paulo does someone stay in a particular part of the city? Step one for me is booking a plane ticket. Step two is knowing where to stay and I don't know.
    I suggest checking out Moema in the Sao Paulo hotel section. The most important aspect of staying in Moema is to find a hotel or Airbnb apartment with double-pane windows to help reduce the noise from jets and planes, particularly at 6:00 AM. There are reports available that list places confirmed to provide a quiet restful sleep.

    I like Moema for its convenient location, especially when it rains heavily and traffic becomes challenging. There are plenty of Waze shortcuts to help navigate the area.

    I agree that there are many clinics within walking distance or a short 7-minute Uber ride, even in the rain. Just yesterday, while at the Ibirapuera Shopping Mall, I noticed a clinic I hadn't seen before called Sirius Spa, which is just one block from the mall. I've walked past that street numerous times without realizing there was a clinic there until one of my garotas in the GDP sent a message to arrange an afternoon appointment with her.

  3. #19201

    Vm

    Quote Originally Posted by Lalabo  [View Original Post]
    I usually stay in Moema because it has quite a few mid-range Clinicas (Prime, Abbabora, Miruna, 57 friends, Enjoy etc.) and not that far from boetes like Scandallo, Casaro, Bamboa etc.

    Another popular location folks stay is Jardim Paulista. I have stayed in the area. The area has lots of popular restaurants but terrible traffic.
    Also consider vila Mariana, which I am staying now. Good local places to eat but crazy traffic. But you have Tangara and yankin Clinicas nearby. These have 20-25 girls each, double the Moema clinicas which have 10 each. Yankin is full of Asian guys, so you can assume what types of girls they have. Scandallo is also closer.

    I use to stay only in Moema but I feel the quality of girls have slipped. I remember my first trip in 2021, every girl at prime was my hit list. Now just 1-2. So I decided on this trip to split my time, half VM and half Moema.

  4. #19200
    Quote Originally Posted by Lalabo  [View Original Post]
    I usually stay in Moema because it has quite a few mid-range Clinicas (Prime, Abbabora, Miruna, 57 friends, Enjoy etc.) and not that far from boetes like Scandallo, Casaro, Bamboa etc.

    Another popular location folks stay is Jardim Paulista. I have stayed in the area. The area has lots of popular restaurants but terrible traffic.
    Thank you.

  5. #19199
    Quote Originally Posted by BobNSuzy  [View Original Post]
    When going to So Paulo does someone stay in a particular part of the city? Step one for me is booking a plane ticket. Step two is knowing where to stay and I don't know.
    I usually stay in Moema because it has quite a few mid-range Clinicas (Prime, Abbabora, Miruna, 57 friends, Enjoy etc.) and not that far from boetes like Scandallo, Casaro, Bamboa etc.

    Another popular location folks stay is Jardim Paulista. I have stayed in the area. The area has lots of popular restaurants but terrible traffic.

  6. #19198
    When going to São Paulo does someone stay in a particular part of the city? Step one for me is booking a plane ticket. Step two is knowing where to stay and I don't know.

  7. #19197
    I think it is worth a reminder that for some countries "back home" activity carries the risk of a criminal record and other inconveniences associated with breaking vice laws.

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    That's so for short trips where you bonk say four or five women. It would have been cheaper to do that at home. However, for longer trips where you have fun with 30 or 40 babes its cheaper abroad overall.

  8. #19196

    Isabeli Fontana

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Wow, I wonder if Isabeli Fontana will charge that much. Just kidding, I know what you mean.
    This beautiful Morena with sparkling green eyes, brick house, and Instagram model features with IoP. She did have a stuck-up attitude to match the first time. She is courted by those HNW high net worth guys from Europe taking her on sugar daddy vacation spots in Europe, Spain, Switzerland, and island countries. The real deal. But I knew she was going to be back in Brazil, back in Scandallo cause she is chasing the rich, young, beautiful, fitness lifestyle. Eventually got to shake that money maker to support her so-called luxury lifestyle. So I got lucky on a slow night she and her Instagram girlfriend accepted the offer. It would not happen on regular weeknights Mon-Thur.

    Saying again Nounce is right about the price range in Scandallo. Get their wassap to meet at a tell motel for a longer time at a lower price point the next day. Spend whatever you are comfortable with. Or grab their number and wait to get the WhatsApp message that never fails to come. "Send me Pix" haha.

  9. #19195
    Quote Originally Posted by Tochka  [View Original Post]
    ......She is a Megan Markle hottie always quoted 1 mil to 1. 5 million reais. ......
    Wow, I wonder if Isabeli Fontana will charge that much. Just kidding, I know what you mean.

  10. #19194

    Nounce is spot on!

    I did a quick visit to Scandallo on a slow night Saturday.

    Half the place was closed off. I talked to a cute Morena have been chasing for a few months. She is a Megan Markle hottie always quoted 1 mil to 1. 5 million reais. Saturday night I offered my standard anchor opening offer of 700 reais. She accepted -bingo.

    We went upstairs to the DJ booth to drink, dance, and celebrate. From the balcony, she spied her blonde Branca girlfriend. She is one of this sexy ass blonde Instagram models, always posing in front of luxury items.

    Told Morena I wanted a duplo session with her and her blonde Branca friend. Now this is the important part I learned the hard way. Better to give each garota the same amount 700 reais not different deals in the bedroom. They compare notes, about money.

    I scored a threesome for 700 reais each. Again it was a slow freaking night at Scandallo, Saturday night and I knew one of the garotas for a while.

    Sunday night went to the Bahamas hotel. I remember it sucks but didn't remember why. 500 or 600 reais entry consumables. The very average-looking garotas you typically see in the supermercado were asking for 1 mil to 1. 5 mil, not budging WTF. Two twenty-year university students agreed to 750 reais. I bailed on their offer. Because their looks were average, the be team.

    I immediately took an Uber directly to Casaro Augusta. It's Sunday night at midnight. Half the back bar is closed off. Slow night. It was a much better experience to chat and talk with the garotas. There was plenty of space to chat up garota both upstairs and downstairs bar. I did not need an anchor offer. Each garota I met said 300 reais to 350 reais for an hour. Nope didn't buy them a drink neither. On Sunday night there was no long ass line waiting for the hotel rooms.

    I enjoyed the time and space to have leisure conversations with the garotas, agreeing to performance plus incentives before heading next door to the room. Upfront payment was expected. The Pix incentives I offered to give at the end of the session works well for me.

    Of course this slow night with good spacing made it easier for ME to be the target of opportunity for garotas looking for take way meal too. I wasn't drunk enough to accept the really lowball offers from gordita garotas coming up to me with sexy intentions.

    The casarao garotas I sessioned with shared their wassap numbers and Instagram page. Nearly all agreed to meet at the convenient located Hotel For Lover the next day for a longer time two to three hours and lesser price point.

    I use Hotel for Lovers as a go to spot for quickie afternoon trysts. It's a 45 second walk from the Jabaquara metro.

    For the garotas, it's easier place to meet mid- afternoons, no paying for uber, not stuck in traffic during the rain downpours and it's economical. Garotas can hop on metro or onibus and be on their way back to work or home, easy peasy.

    Nounce is correct on the general pricing range at each place. So save his post.

  11. #19193

    Big Ups!

    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    This is the price estimate for Scandallo after 7 PM. 500 entry + 300 room + 800 girl.

    The girl are free to ask what they want. You may pay less or a lot more. You don't have to buy drink for girls at Scandllo to talk to them. I don't buy drink unless I have already decided to take the girl or to some girls that I already know. You don't have to do either. The best thing about Scandallo is service is more reliable assume you are not shy and know what you are doing. It will be better if you like club and enjoy talking to girls before sex. Otherwise, you probably won't see much value in it.

    Casarao's price, 60 entrada, room 100/hr, 50/30 minutes, girl 500/hr, 350/30 minutes. It's about 660 for one hour. It could be more or less for the girl. The environment is not suited for prolong conversation, especially if you don't speak the language. The girls may ask for drink. The general advice is don't buy drink because it is not cheap relatively speaking.

    High-end clinicas are about 800 for one hour. My guess is that you have about 2/3 chance to get similar average girl as Scandallo. The service is not guaranteed because the selection is made from a tablet and there are some limits restricting you talking to girl. The rooms generally are very good, some better than Scandallo.

    Clinicas range from 220 to 340 for one hour. There is also a 30 minutes option to make it cheaper. You can talk to girl so you are likely to have better service.

    The other low end options in Centro are all closed or farther away. I hope this clears up the pricing. There are some more nuances that I am sure others will chime in but I am keeping it short.
    I really wish we her able to save posts to keep as a reference. This will definitely help me when I go back to SP in April. I never did the rooms at Casarao, I would also just pick one I liked every night and bring them back to my hotel. But I guess for this trip I'll get the room for an hour and just take the ones I had a real good time with to my hotel. I take it that its 2 pops in the hour correct or is that something between you and the garota?

  12. #19192
    Quote Originally Posted by NamasteParis  [View Original Post]
    Fine Amigos. Thanks for these valuable infos.
    This is the price estimate for Scandallo after 7 PM. 500 entry + 300 room + 800 girl.

    The girl are free to ask what they want. You may pay less or a lot more. You don't have to buy drink for girls at Scandllo to talk to them. I don't buy drink unless I have already decided to take the girl or to some girls that I already know. You don't have to do either. The best thing about Scandallo is service is more reliable assume you are not shy and know what you are doing. It will be better if you like club and enjoy talking to girls before sex. Otherwise, you probably won't see much value in it.

    Casarao's price, 60 entrada, room 100/hr, 50/30 minutes, girl 500/hr, 350/30 minutes. It's about 660 for one hour. It could be more or less for the girl. The environment is not suited for prolong conversation, especially if you don't speak the language. The girls may ask for drink. The general advice is don't buy drink because it is not cheap relatively speaking.

    High-end clinicas are about 800 for one hour. My guess is that you have about 2/3 chance to get similar average girl as Scandallo. The service is not guaranteed because the selection is made from a tablet and there are some limits restricting you talking to girl. The rooms generally are very good, some better than Scandallo.

    Clinicas range from 220 to 340 for one hour. There is also a 30 minutes option to make it cheaper. You can talk to girl so you are likely to have better service.

    The other low end options in Centro are all closed or farther away. I hope this clears up the pricing. There are some more nuances that I am sure others will chime in but I am keeping it short.

  13. #19191
    Fine Amigos. Thanks for these valuable infos.

  14. #19190

    Kissing

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I can't think of the last time a Brazilian girl had to use lube cuz she wasn't naturally wet. Or didn't DFK like a beast. I think they teach kissing in middle school. Cuz almost all Brazilian girls love to kiss and kiss like the devil and angel all in one.
    I know that's right! This branca DFK'd me something fierce to the point that I ended up with a "hickey of the tongue". Never before or since! I'll always remember my session with her because of that. That shit hurt the next day too. Branca put something on me! And she had a really pretty face with a plump, round, Brazilian, branca bunda just how I like too LOL!
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  15. #19189

    Pay what you are comftable with!

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I would def not say 800-1000 is average. Esp 800. Thats going to take some expert negotiating or willing to settle. Hard for a newbie. That said all the girls I went with were 1000-1200 right out the gate and I didn't try to push them down. I'the figure between 1000-1500 esp if a newbie. I wouldn't pay more than that. This is the HOUR price at the hotel there. Figure double that approx for taking her overnight to your place.
    You always pay what you are comftable with so don't overthink it. If you are not comftable to pay 1000 than skip Scandallo and go to Casarao or similar places. The thing with scandallo is the whole experiece, nice and clean place, posh girls who dress and smell nice, a variety difficult to find anywhere else in the world. Its like going to a nice restaurant and a regular restaurant. Both fill your stomach but feel different. You feel robbed if you don't apreciate what the nice place offers you extra but don't want to miss it when you put value to nice presentation, lighting, dejoration level of service and so on.

    You can enjoy both worlds and still apreciate both. I had some nice nights with dancing, drinking laughing at scandallo but also fun with gems I met at massage parlors for 300 Brl. Offer her what you think she should feel good with but without feeling robbed. If she says no then skip it, there are sooooo many girls who will.

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