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02-13-25 19:10 #44376
Posts: 4747Originally Posted by Knobrm [View Original Post]
In practice, no legal action would ever occur. As mentioned above, few bargirls are legally married. Moreover, since most bargirls support their husbands, if there were a trial, the bargirl could testify how much money she gave the husband from her customers. Big loss of face for the husband, and should effectively end the case. However, Farangs almost always lose court cases, on the basis of there would be no court case if the Farang had never come to Thailand.
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02-13-25 18:57 #44375
Posts: 1028Originally Posted by Werqweq [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
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02-13-25 17:55 #44374
Posts: 780Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
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02-13-25 17:41 #44373
Posts: 6233Originally Posted by Werqweq [View Original Post]
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02-13-25 17:24 #44372
Posts: 7010Not dissing your girlfriend
Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
There are highly motivated researchers here on this website who read that Title and those Sections and still get it wrong. Cops certainly can't be relied upon to get it right, no more than I know for a fact how often they get it wrong about Rules of the Road for bicycles. At least, not as far as responding to a civilian's question about it goes.
If these laws are not available for review, and I assure you I have tried to review everything written by the Thai Authorities on the topic, yet they are keeping that "age 20" qualifier and big secret except to inform only cops and bar-owners about it, then that kind of turns the whole concept of "ignorance of the law is no excuse" on its head; there is no way for any of us to know the law.
At this point, I have no idea where the cops and bar owner got that "age 20" qualifier regarding prostitution into their minds enough to expect anyone to pay a fine for violating it. It sure isn't mentioned in the Thai Penal Code or The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act. Not in any version of it I have read or seen quoted from.
Can your girlfriend enlighten us on where she read it? Or was it just because that was what the cops told the bar owner and the prostitute so they would pay them a fine on the spot?
BTW, does she know how much the fine for that was?
Was it the same silly fine "not exceeding 1,000 baht" a prostitute supposedly has to pay if she "solicits, induces, introduces herself or himself to, follows or implores a person in a street or a public place, or commit such acts in any other place, in an open and shameful manner or causes nuisance to the public", as cited in Section 5 of The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act?
Which means it could be as low as 200 baht. Or less.
And which also begs the hypothetical question, IF there was a law or rule in the Act making it illegal to solicit for the purposes of prostitution in a "quiet and discrete manner so as to cause zero public nuisance", which there is NO such law in the Code or the Act, but somehow and in someway it was overheard by a cop anyway, how silly small would the fine be then?
"not exceeding 100 baht"? Which means it could be as low as 10 baht? LOL.
Fellas, help these girls out. Always keep some loose change in your pocket to gallantly pay the fine for them if Thailand should ever happen to pass a law making that aspect of Prostitution illegal and the lady gets busted by an ambitious cop or two for being overheard soliciting you for it "quietly and discretely". LOL.
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02-13-25 16:16 #44371
Posts: 12Age
Legal age is 18 but if the girl is 18 to 20 the parents can come after you. Just telling you what my girl told me yesterday.
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02-13-25 16:12 #44370
Posts: 12Pink baby agogo
Just arrived at this pink baby agogo 15 minutes ago. Had a drink with a beautiful young lady probably 22.7/10. Asked about st rooms and 700 fee for room 3000 baht for the girl. Expensive but all ago go are about the same. Maybe 10 girls here and 50 percent are at least 6 or 7 going to an 8. Bodies are fucking smoking.
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02-13-25 12:35 #44369
Posts: 780Originally Posted by Downandup [View Original Post]
For what it's worth, the now apparently defunct fiwfans site, which was a p4p site for thais, only let you search for girls from 20 and up. Not 18 and up. I'm thinking there was probably a reason for that. I also remember reading reports here from guys denied entry in the hotel to their p4p-girl because she was only 18 or 19.
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02-13-25 12:10 #44368
Posts: 7010It seems to me they were arguing that question.
Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
Isn't that what you have been seeing as their position?
But they have not been able to produce a quote or a link from a legally enforceable Penal Code, Act or Edict to support that argument.
And if they had ever been arguing that "being a prostitute is illegal", then they are really fighting a losing battle. The Thai Penal Code and / or The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act is clear about it being illegal for anyone over the age of 16 to live off the money a prostitute earns UNLESS the prostitute is responsible for supporting such a person.
Which makes it blatantly obvious that, as far as the Thai government is concerned:
1. It is fine and dandy to BE a prostitute.
2. It is fine and dandy to EARN MONEY as a prostitute.
3. In fact, we, the Thai Government, want to make sure YOU, the prostitute, gets to keep and spend all the money you earn and aren't getting ripped off by some lazy freeloader or "manager" who isn't doing the fucking and sucking.
4. In further fact, we, the Thai Government, are so supportive of the idea of you BEING a prostitute and EARNING MONEY as a prostitute, we have actually and literally memorialized the concept officially in the Thai Penal Code and The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act by literally spelling out that you can spend the money you earn by fucking and sucking on anyone in your charge for which you are responsible for their survival or livelihood. Knock yourself out. No problem. We're fine with that.
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02-13-25 10:34 #44367
Posts: 17521Originally Posted by Downandup [View Original Post]
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02-13-25 09:50 #44366
Posts: 995Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
The legal age is 18 and I have been hearing that from bar owners who work hard to ensure that none are underage. None of them are willing to risk the heavy consequences of that. They also comment that it's strange that a girl can work in a bar but cannot drink alcohol until the age of 20. Finally, most hotels will impose a house rule limiting girls to over 20 but it's not the law. The drinking law and hotel rules may be the reason your girlfriend thinks it's 20 for everything.
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02-13-25 04:06 #44365
Posts: 7010Could have been a shake down or age limit re the bar
Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]
https://www.thailandlawonline.com/ta...and-penal-code
It turns out that some law firms, opinion pieces and other sources with an agenda or incentive to convince everyone that consenting adults engaging in a discrete act of exchanging sex for money is illegal in Thailand tend to add a creative spin on the actual wording or, worse, omit critical wording, in the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act in order to create that false impression.
That is particularly so on the issue of Section 5 in the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, which comes closer to almost, kind of, sort of suggesting that it is illegal than anything else in the Act or the Thai Penal Code.
However, even in that case and with a maximum penalty for it being a silly 1,000 baht fine and only for the prostitute, it still doesn't quite get there in the actual wording of it:
http://www.dwf.go.th/uploads/Downloa...0BE%202539.pdf
Section 5. Any person who, for the purpose of prostitution, solicits, induces, introduces herself or himself to, follows or implores a person in a street or a public place, or commit such acts in any other place, in an open and shameful manner or causes nuisance to the public, shall be liable to a fine not exceeding one thousand baht.
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02-13-25 03:20 #44364
Posts: 93Originally Posted by EihTooms [View Original Post]
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02-12-25 21:01 #44363
Posts: 93Originally Posted by Knobrm [View Original Post]
Well, the answer has been clear for some time, but some refuse to let it go. They keep doubling down. You're not violating the law when your ladies come by and you compensate them when they leave. I like discussions / arguments like these, as long as they're civil. I try to not read what those who aren't civil write.
That is an interesting law. Yeah, how do they fix the level of compensation. Hahaha, your way seems to be as good as any other. It seems that in other violations of the law in Thailand, compensation from the perpetrator to the victim or victim's family is common. I wonder how they are calculated.
A related law in the Philippines says that if a spouse catches their spouse in bed with another person, and if the first spouse kills or seriously injures one or both, all he will suffer is being banished from where he lives. If the damage is less than serious, there is no penalty.
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02-12-25 17:30 #44362
Posts: 6085Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]